Packers Total Access | Depth Chart Deep Dive & 12 Players Fighting For A Roster Spot

[Music] you're listening to the Packer Net podcast Network what's going on US Cellular customers I've got good news so don't hit skip at least not yet I'm talking about their special customer event us dayss what is US days it means exclusive offers just for their customers just to say thanks like $1,200 off any phone plus $300 off any tablet no I didn't just misread that they must really like you us dayss at US Cellular exclusive offers just for you just to say thank you right now US Cellular customers get $1,200 off any phone plus $300 off any tablet terms apply for all right what's up guys welcome into Packers Total Access my name is Clayton you can check us out on packernet.com find me on Twitter at Packers access email us Packers Total Access gmail.com you can text us 8656 58 5824 join alongside of millio in Tennessee we got Tim live in Green Bay we got Jacob in Wisconsin um just here to talk a little Packers this evening gentlemen hopefully the weather was good where you were me and uh me and Emilio were just right at the gates of hell down here in Tennessee right now it is so H it is Toasty out there man you better if you if you if you haven't drank a gallon of water you're already behind yeah absolutely man Jacob Tim how was your alls Dave Bas good how was good Tim was it it was about 85 and a little baly today here uh yeah I got some sun I went out like a fool and cut some grass during the day time like these guys you know there you go that's what I'm talking about man sir that's what I'm talking about so uh obviously ailio um I I hate it when people do this on Packers or any kind of football podcast so we'll keep it very brief but obviously the UT balls just won a national championship college baseball I bet Knoxville was lit this today wasn't it man man all you saw was flags on people's car driving around it was Unreal uh but yeah know I heard there was a that where it started it's going to end at Market square and I guess the ragers going all night it's probably going to go all week this weekend's probably gonna be unreal but yeah congrats to him uh first time in uh Team history so congrats absolutely pretty cool man and again the reason I bring it up is when the College World Series wraps up we're so close to football boys right around the corner so yeah I mean that's I mean be honest I don't I don't watch baseball that was the little bit I did was those last few games and it you know I just I think it's just that champion you know the uh the playoff atmosphere it brings the best out of everybody different feel same with hockey you throw it on just because it's on but now we now we are just waiting for football to start so we we don't have anything else um so what I thought we would do Jacob we had an article that you sent me the other day uh just talking about 12 Packers on the roster bubble following mini camp and just to kind of give everybody an updated look and again is from MSN I believe it's from uh yeah just msn.com is what it says here so we're going to pull that that article up and check it out I've also got the depth chart handy here so we can kind of revert back to it I figur we use the same format we did last night and just kind of go through and get everybody's take on each of these roster bubble spots um I think that would be really cool and we also got a a screen grab here from last year's final 53 man roster The Cut Down from Camp so we can kind of take a look at that as we go along too does that sound good Fellas yes all right let's do it man so let's J jump right into the article here obviously it says 12 Packers on the roster bubble following mini camp number one or I should say number 12 they do a countdown number 12 Anders Carlson right says Carlson finds himself in a three-way battle for the Packers kicking job competing against Greg Joseph and Jack P SN who is no longer on the roster actually Jacob sent this a few days ago however I will say this we have a uh um another kicker that is on the depth chart now if we take a quick look here you got Andis Carls and Greg Joseph and now you got James Turner sounds like a pirate from Pirates of the Caribbean doesn't it that's will Turner's Uncle at there kicking field goals for the Packers right now so um that's how that sits right there as far as Andre Anders Carlson's uh competition how do we feel about that fellas do you think because there's been a a lot of Spirited debate it's hilarious you know it's the offseason when everybody gets fired up talking about kickers but many people were saying ah this is just kind of a fake uh a fake uh Camp battle if you will others are going no this is legit competition Andre is going to be you know kind of competing for his job I'd just like to know what you guys think about that because for me I'm kind of I kind of feel like it's hre's job to lose but at the same time if Greg Joseph comes out or even James Turner comes out and they just sled up in Camp there's a realistic chance that they could try to stash Anders on the uh on the practice squad obviously but what do you guys think about that let's just go around the home we'll start with you ailia what do you think yeah uh I still think it's going to come down to the the um the fact that he's on his rookie deal and that he didn't play terrible last year all the rewinds that we've done he really has looked fine because we're not really watching the extra points so I'm I I think there's going to be a battle I think that you need that throughout and they may even keep them on the the practice squad the other kicker but there's uh I I still think it's going to be Hors to hang on to Yeah Tim president kicker sir what do you think I think it's somewhere in between the two you know I don't think it's necessarily A you know a quote unquote Camp leg situation but I think they are trying to put a little bit of pressure on Anders and maybe let them know that the the leash is a little shorter this year and uh if you're not going to perform you're going to get pulled and we've got Personnel here ready to take your spot that being said I'm leaning more towards Clayton's point of view here that it's it's and's job to lose amilio you bring up a great point about the rookie contract and the fact that you know he wasn't a complete dumpster fire last year guys let's let's be 100% honest here did were there some disappointing misses uh of course of course um but he's a rookie so uh we'll see what happens in year two I I will say this I think um you know if anyone's got a shot to to steal the job it is Greg Joseph so how this pans out going into camp and as we get through a training camp see how the the kicks are flying out at Ray NY field this year yeah you know another thing too Jacob that kind of sticks out to me there was at least two maybe three times that honors missed the field goal which we've already seen one I think another one if I remember correctly comes in the 49ers game which we'll get to here in a couple weeks here in a week or so um where Jordan kind of took a crucial sack in a specific situation where it made the kick much more difficult for Anders right and and people just kind of throw that to the Wayside because Jordan played so well in the second half I don't know man do you how do you feel about Anders do you think people are being too hard on him do you think me and Tim are being being too easy on him what do you think with that man uh I'm trying to remember what I actually cuz I went up and down last year with Anders I want to say that I was more in the camp of give it time he's young um I know that for sure he statistically was I think better than Mason as far as the actual field goal percentage that rookie year and he got I think actually for more than a few years of Masons um but that being said you know like Tim was talking about I think that they're bringing in competition this year because it was so kind of unprecedented last year that a rookie kicker got no competition whatsoever just if anything you want to get him used to having that Competitive Edge that the the type of nervousness of having to make game time kicks and competing against someone else and knowing that you're not just safe that to me was a little odd Choice uh but this year they definitely like Tim said again uh Greg Joseph that dude's a baller we watched just on a viking rewind I mean he he's a solid NFL kicker I honestly don't get why the Vikings let him go I don't know what the situation was there but barring somebody having some sort of like you guys ever watch the movie Rookie of the Year remember that M where he has that ax in it and then he can all of a sudden throw yes like 150 mile fast balls that's what we if something happened to like Greg Joseph's or poodle snowy or no not pood snowy if uh the other guy Turner if something happens to his knee and it heals back miraculously fast and the dude's booting 80 yard field goals then we have a a problem but I don't see that happening so uh that would be a cool off though Jacob be a you go three and out on the 15 and you're like well we'll take three yeah I'll tell you one thing about kickers for sure is you know you really appreciate when you have a good one you know when one of the more underappreciated positions uh you know and let's face it it is it's a skilled position uh you talk about skill position groups being a place kicker is a skill position in my opinion and uh when you got one you tend to take it for granted and when you don't boy do you notice that you don't have a good kicker so uh it's important that the Packers get this right and I I like the fact that we've got uh multiple legs at 1265 right now uh getting some kicks up and we'll see how this pans out yeah definitely Blake in the chat said Michigan fan here Turner was all right last year nowhere near the longdistance ability of Jake moody or Andre so obviously Andre is having a stronger leg there according to a Michigan fan in Blake you United baates in the house says hope you got your pants on tonight big dog he says we will see in Camp but feel like it will be Carlson um I agree man that's where I would have to put my money for sure um Ron sville says needs to be more consistent on extra points everyone misses some field goes amen and then smidy says Clayton I feel like there's some Fair criticism but people go way overboard said it yesterday we are a society wanting instant gratification give the guy a chance and again like Jacob pointed out if I remember correctly the stats are are correct there um he actually his his Phil go percentage forget the extra points his Phil go percentage was actually better than Mason Crosby in his first four years in the league so again Mason Crosby's extra point percentage much higher because they were snapping the ball from the two the majority of of Mason's career before they uh moved it back there and changed the rules so let's move on to number 11 on the list which is Tyler Davis tied end Davis missed the entire 2023 season due to injury but his excitement uh to be back for mini camp is palpable is that correct guys so that's I'm learning every day so let's see it says while he's not expected to contribute significantly on offense man there's a slap right those snaps will largely go to Tucker craft and Luke Musgrave Davis remains a special team's Ace he was the one of the one of if not the most successful special teams players the year before he got hurt right so there's definitely value there um his versatility allows him to play on all special teams units making him one of Rich Bach's best weapons so when you look at Tyler Davis and obviously look at the final 53 last year this is the first thing that came to mind for me we only carried three out of Camp which was Luke Musgrave Tucker craft and Josiah uara so this year the question is if we stick to that same format that same blueprint Josiah dear is gone will it be Ben Sims or Tyler Davis that's the big question for me right Ben Sims I thought played great but does Ben Sims have the same value you know on special teams that Tyler Davis does and the same thing on the Sith block there as well Jacob but what you guys think about Tyler Davis ailio how you feeling about it I think that that's a tough one because I I think Ben Sim is a little bit better blocker than uh Tyler Davis off the bat but you know coming off an injury and everything the only other thing I thought of was we have a lot more speed now if you know the the thing we would need hopper for is field goal or I'm sorry the thing we would need Davis for is field goal block but we're blocking for an extra point but everybody else we've we've picked up in the draft safe linebacker speed you know getting downfield he's not going to be Tyler Davis isn't going to be one on kickoff anymore you know what I mean so it's like I think we're kind of switching now that all that that running's gone like we just need guys a hit go down cover a punt and if we can run the uh you know run the other tight ends out there I don't think it would be terrible I I honestly think Ben Sims might make it and they'll might throw in less uh Tyler Davis has a practice squad eligibility or something but you know work Works work something like that keep one one on the other definitely two for this in the chat says Sims over Davis giv crafts Peck injury that's a great point there as well coach Lyn says I think they both make the cup four tight ends Tim I don't think that's out of the question there right man the qu the the big question becomes if you carry for based off of this model that we're showing you guys from last year who who else do you cut where do you cut that's what I'm saying I kind of disagree I think they're going to take three they're they're going to carry three tight ends probably with the look at at the wide receiver room we have and then um you know we've we've gone from a one-w punch at running back so to speak to kind of a one two three punch in the running back room probably so I'm assuming they're gonna what about the d uh the dline or the linebacker room uh Tim you don't think we can shave a few off there or what about D is D don't you dare start picking at my defense Jacob hey man you know me I need that Cox to get in there I'm trying to make him make the cut all right so d d levit let me ask you guys about D levit real quick he is not on the roster this year right so last year we broke camp with d levit shave him off the roster is there a chance we carry four safeties as opposed to five and I'm trying to look at positions we could potentially cut here Javon Bard's a lock Evan Williams is a lock oladapo if he's healthy is a lock which we all we always overlook this and it never fails when we break Camp somebody goes on hour and there's the answer to the question right but three there Xavier McKenna's four Anthony Johnson Jr would be five so I don't think you can if everyone's healthy coming out of Camp I don't think you could uh you can shave it out out of the out of the safety room there but what were you gonna say there uh Jacob on Tyler Davis your favorite player I mean I I kind of agree with uh coach coach Len I just now that Tim brought it up I don't know where because there's no way to me that we not keeping uh obviously X um and ant and then you the three rookies like that right there and you could argue I guess they couldn't really for any other one but I that's five right there that I I want those guys on the team maybe you could argue the cornerback room what did we keep I can't remember with that um but even that that's so deep I mean it is a good problem to have maybe you're right Jacob your initial reaction was inside linebackers maybe they carry four instead of five there and I mean outside linebackers now is kind of DN right is that time out though remember we're switching to a 4-3 you're probably you're probably going to carry one less defensive lineman and one more linebacker I would imagine right right that's tough man I'm telling you bro we it's this roster I don't want to say it's loaded but it's really got some depth to it like there's no matter what we end up going with on the final 53 we're all gonna be sitting there going man that sucks if they had to cut him you know yeah we're gonna really just have a lot of conversations about who do we think they can actually stash on the practice squad it'll probably be one of those what if what if we take Tucker craft Zack Tom they're both injured we'll slide them in you know coming in on an injury we'll keep two more on the roster to get us down to cutd Downs and we'll flop them over put them on the practice squad you know crafting crafting Tom back on something like that yeah definitely all right number 10 on the list Caleb Jones offensive tackle the Packers have swiftly rebuilt their offensive tackle depth with Rasheed Walker Zack Tom Jordan Morgan Caleb Jones Andre Dillard and Luke Tuda Unfortunately they can't keep all of them with Walker Tom and Morgan as blocks to make the roster the battle will come down to Jones Dillard and Tuda if that's if that's what the battle comes down to to me it's it's it depends on how much they really like Dillard the fact that the second that Caleb J or the second that Zack Tom popped that Peck they immediately went and signed Dillard says a lot to me if if I had to if I had to choose between those three today between Caleb Jones Andre Dillard and Tuda I'd probably go Dillard and and I know he hasn't played well but he has played right and Caleb Jones it just seems like he can't hardly get off the practice squad Dillard's played for two different teams albeit but he has started too so what do you guys think about that as far as Caleb Jones conversation here go ahead Tim Yeah Tim you start this one buddy make a break year for him for sure on on multiple fronts right and uh you know he's got an uphill battle there there's plenty of competition um yeah with the injuries that we we have going into Camp here on the old line guys are already shuffling around you know we talked about Jordan Morgan playing all over the line in OTAs and things like that so Caleb Jones is he this is the year he's got to make a giant step I mean he takes Giant Steps he's a big dude so I mean it should be be natural for him but um you know that would make things interesting because I I'm kind of with you on this one again Clayton um you know probably Dillard would be my guy out of those three um but if Caleb Jones is healthy and is consistent and has a good camp there's a chance he uh you know wins wins himself a spot you never know yeah M Smitty in the chat says Dillard over Jones and then Angus mcagis uh says Glover is straight to the practice squad have not heard anything about him in OTAs I could see that happening I don't think anybody would type a 53 spot with with Travis Glover again he may come out in training camp and light it up too right we always get those type of stories Ron sell says if anyone is going to let a free runner on Jordan it's steer now see now you're trying to convince me now you now you got me worried over here Jacob what do you think Bob Caleb Jones yeah I mean it's it's another argument about how deep this team is at every position where you know I I know that they really liked Luke Tuda last year before he had that injury but it was a pretty bad injury so there's that you know that's a mark against him if you look at um even like we talked about like I haven't heard anything from Glover like that's a good I have not heard a not one thing I mean nothing from him um Kadeem tord and again was another name that's been thrown around like hey we like what he does he's another really large person if I remember correctly um Caleb Jones though like you talked about he just hasn't had the Reps now I don't know what is it like some possible mysterious ceiling versus a very established pretty low-level floor versus Dillard and Jones so it's like I don't know which one we want to go to and the thing is is Dillard is still very young and he was a really wasn't he like the 18th overall pick I think I think not team was yeah 19th okay so you know there there obviously is something there I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers keep him with the idea of like Hey we're gonna in the next year to two years we're going to develop him into an actual starting serviceable lineman so yeah Milo you get anything on this bro uh I was going to say what Ron brought up here I'm I'm isn't Jones more of a tackle only just because of his size and his lack of speed I would assume uh isn't he like six7 or he's a mountain right an absolute Mountain the other thing I still fall back on is if we're not gonna you know if we've worked we worked on getting Caleb Jones at this point for two years now why are we not gonna give it four years with Glover and let him just roll out put Caleb Jones on the practice quad or whatever keep keep his keep his four-year you know rookie contract get Glover on and try to work on him that's a great great point because with Caleb's body of work or lack thereof really in the past couple of years he'd be a guy that might be safe on that practice squad right probably not gonna get snatched up right away right and I mean because they don't have how much tape do they have on them you know we haven't put him out there so why not give a shot to Glover we picked him up for a reason they liked him enough to to take him so might as well you know try to work with them and for what it's worth this is ESPN's updated Green Bay Packers depth chart they have left tackle Rasheed Walker Jordan Morgan then Andre Dillard then Kadeem Telford at right tackle they've got Zack Tom Luke Tuda then Travis Glover then Caleb Jones so they would seem to think Caleb Jones is the odd man out there for sure so yeah I think you know the his lack of Versatility is what's hurting him right I mean if he's strictly attack on an o line where you know we got a lot of plug-and-play guys and you know we know goody likes the the vers versatile players um you know Matt likes the versatile guys on his own line so what's going on US Cellular customers I've got good news so don't hit skip at least not yet I'm talking about their special customer event us days what is us dayss it means exclusive offers just for their customers just to say thanks like $1,200 off any phone plus $300 off any tablet no I didn't just misread that they must really like you us dayss at US Cellular exclusive offers just for you just to say thank you right now US Cellular customers get $1,200 off any phone plus $300 off any tablet terms apply have you ever experienced turbulence on a flight and wondered why and you can see all the terrain around you uh you've got no issue with visibility or anything n everything's peachy maybe you've sat on the TAC for hours wondering why your plane isn't moving well we're outside here they're saying the ramp is closed they won't let us park because of the Air Force walk listen in on the conversations between pilots and air traffic controllers on the air traffic outof control podcast I cacy declaring an emergency there's smoke in the cabin I need to make a landing right now on 31 left we have the most interesting wild and funny ATC recordings you would ever hear check out air traffic out of control wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts you know being a right tackle pretty much exclusively iveen never seen him on the left side I don't know if they tried that at all but you know that's got to hurt him as far as getting reps so definely yeah United bait says Caleb Jones is listed at 6 foot n thick wild absolutely wild uh one thing too like I that they have Luke Tuda as right tackle number two that to me I think is maybe something we're not thinking about like I said I knew they like Tuda a lot a lot a lot last year and then that injury kind of derailed that whole progression with him so yeah that's a great Point number nine on the bubble list here Royce Newman hello Newman offensive lineman after starting 16 games during his rookie year Royce Newman has seen his playing time decline each season uh let's see next year he might not start at all Newman is a popular C uh I'm about say cult cut candidate heading into the per the preseason thanks to Green Bay's added depth on the interior with Jacob monk Shan Ryan and Travis Glover all three could make the roster over Newman who faces an uphill battle to prove his worth cutting Newman would also free up some cap space for the Packers adding another another layer layer of complexity to his situation uh Newman needs to step up his game significantly in training camp to secure his spot um on the team the Packers front office will be closely watching to see if he can rise to the challenge and reclaim his place on this roster for me I'm kind of dumb with the whole Newman experiment I don't know how you guys feel um again if we take a quick glance at the depth chart uh the dep chart has it listed as Royce Newman being the backup left guard and Jacob monk being the backup Right Guard so really it's it's all gonna come down to in my opinion Ken Dillard and again they've got Jordan Morgan listed strictly as a left tackle we know Jordan Morgan has been played at four different spots and OTAs so he can fill in there at left guard obviously that's that I don't look at that like Royce Newman is our only backup left guard by no stretch of the imagination but what do you guys think about that go around the home with it I don't care who starts man best Kentucky waterfall on the team for sure that's true know that that does mean something around these parts so um but unfortunately that seems to be the best thing he's got going so far I I'm with you clay man again third time in a row here I think we're uh I'm fully over the the Newman experiment he's had uh plenty of opportunities and I don't know I just feel like it's there's enough young Talent on this whole line it may be time to move on yeah you just give that Kentucky waterfall one of those run a through that thing man you know what I'm saying sorry oh no I was just gonna say you know we've over the years for whatever reason the guy regressed really substantially it's it's been kind of sad to see because I had high hopes for him love that um business in the front you know party in the back look that he's got going there unfortunately I think that as much as we always say hello Newman It's Time to Say Goodbye Newman I love it Angus mcag says once a guy clears waiver team can protect up to four practice squad players week to week with other teams um if I'm understanding that right let's see Randy cleever says uh coaches are seeing way more than us that's a fact buddy there's no doubt about that um this is interesting too coach Lynn says I wonder if there's a team out there that would trade for Newman yeah I don't I can't imagine there's a team let's let's see if we can get him but uh I guarantee if we do cut him one of the NFC North teams will snatch him up that seems to be what they do right for sure the Bears probably they're probably going to just pick him up but honestly I think it's uh kind of a numbers game looking at I feel like we're going to go in with probably 10 offensive lineman nine nine or 10 there so uh you know just just pick it out I think Royce is going to pull the Short Straw this year uh if it's it's going to be a battle if monk doesn't show up then Royce has a chance but if if monk shows up and with everybody else rotating like that I I wouldn't see why um you know they'd they'd keep him around I love his Fred mcfarley jumped in said join late but we need Jennings to beat out Newman can uh can we do a quick like if let's let's do a on the spot scenario if we have to keep let's say how let's let's guess are we taking nine 10 or 11 linemen who' we pick right now go 10 him I don't say 10 I want to know who of which 10 oh come on wow um Sheed Walker yeah Big E Jordan Morgan um you got to take Myers because he's on last yeah Josh Josh Myers is a given I would go yeah Jacob monk that not piss anybody else off that Josh Tuda Glover and then I don't know I do I do Kadeem t for it'd be interesting to see Donovan though that guy you know yeah it's tough to say like you said because we haven't seen Camp talk to me after after a few weeks of Camp let's see broke we broke camp with 11 last year yeah I'm I'm I'm assuming we'll have at least 10 this year if they can save a spot in the o line and keep another skill guy I think that would be the spot that they would because they cross training him so so much so heavy right makes sense all right so we'll see if Royce Newman lives lives F another season here right feel like a Game of Thrones or something yes when you play the game of thrones you live or die number eight on the list Emanuel Wilson running back obviously one of my favorite players on the team this is tough final 53 last year we broke camp with three Aaron Jones AJ Dylan and Emanuel Wilson so they'll probably break camp with three again now you lose Aaron Jones but you pick up Josh Jacobs oh by the way you pick up Marshon Lloyd as well I mean the only chance for uh for Emanuel Wilson is to beat out AJ Dylan or the Packers say hey all four of these guys are so good we're just going to have to carry four this year I don't know how you guys feel about that bill bich would always carry five and sometimes six running backs breaking Camp which is just always wild to me and he was winning Super Bowls doing it I just don't see us building our roster that way with us like I said Milo we talked about it all year long you want to stay in 11 personnel as much as possible man that's how good the receivers are right it's a good problem to have but what do you think about Emanuel Wilson yeah I coming back from the injury I think he's I think he's going to be ready to roll ready to play the thing is is uh spot wise being fourth running back man that's tough we haven't we haven't been heavy on it you know enough for Matt to be like all right we're going to run two side C car running backs all the time that's it's not something he's kind of leaning on so I think it's going to be one of those practice quad up and down sort of guys unless he shows out and you know training put him on Kick coverage if the dude goes down and hits somebody we'll find a spot on him uh well right if if he goes down there and makes plays and that it's just a reverse Run play if you can still stick the guy all right you're playing so um I think anybody on the bubble has a chance at it like that they got to work hard to get in in special teams but right now I think Wilson's gonna be practice squad yeah Angus in the chat says Wilson to the practice squad I don't think he will get plucked and just go with three running backs I think that's very very good assessment Tim I I think of of all the running backs that you would potentially cut here you know whether it's a J Dylan Emanuel Wilson or yeah that's just it basically AJ Dylan or Emanuel Wilson I think that Emanuel Wilson probably has the best shot of clearing waivers don't you oh yeah for sure for sure and uh I can tell you he was probably a little little gut punched on draft day when we took Marshon Lloyd he probably thought oh it's gonna be an uphill battle now because I mean I believe Marshon Lloyd is a star in the making so I think it's I think it's Jacob and and Marshon lyd those are your three running backs again this is pre-amp though you know we could look and be having different conversations here in a few weeks butel Wilson's a gamer you know he really is that guy that guy is a gamer um injuries kind of robbed him um of more reps because he was getting touches last year um you know especially with uh you know Jonesy going down there for for a few weeks at a time um Emanuel Wilson was really starting to hit his stride when he when he popped the shoulder and um we didn't get to see too much more of him so uh I know he'll be hungry you talk about a guy that's GNA be an absolute dog at training camp um it's going to be fun to see him and Marshon Lloyd battling for for that uh third spot but I think we can all agree that he's you know it's probably going to be Emanuel Wilson to the practice squad for sure yeah Chris Nichols in the chat said AJ Dylan could get could get cut why not there's definitely no Financial ramification to him getting cut right there's no guaranteed money to the best of my knowledge that's attack to AJ Dylan so I think he's more of a body type at that point that's why one he would get snatched up too is I mean you're looking for an experienced back that has that kind of weight that can still move yeah definitely Fred mcfarley in the chat said Jacobs Lloyd Dylan we won't carry four due to wide receiver depth that's probably where my money would be too and then Ron sell said chances are one of these guys will get dinged a little at some point as well I can see them somebody rolling an ankle being on the IR for four weeks you can see that happening right you never know but Jacob what do you think man you think Emanuel Wilson's the kind of it seems like all three of us here completely agree Emanuel Wilson probably try to stash him on the practice squad what do you think Jake yeah I think that that's most likely um I'm trying to though because every year like you just talked about I in my head as you're talking I'm thinking what is the most obscure weird thing that the Packers nobody thinks they're gonna do because that's what they're gonna do it's kind of like in the draft with the first round who's the guy that nobody thinks they're gonna pick in the first round but like five people that you respect said they're gonna do it so you kind of like think it's an option this is my thought process here is what if they randomly keep two running backs keep like seven receivers you know what I mean throw a bunch of these guys on the practice squad do you guys think that AJ Dylan could clear uh could clear the practice squad I don't think so like I was saying I think the I think his uh quads Jacob the uh I feel like I feel like the Ravens are going to pick that dude up or they yeah San Francisco no you know who would Dallas would pick him up oh Dallas San Fran Ravens any of those honestly would pick them pick him up but could you imagine him and Lamar and you know and what Henry King Henry's over there now so I don't know how safe Emanuel Wilson would even be other than the fact maybe that there's little little you know little to no tape on him really from last year just a few reps but you know I don't know he he showed flashes to Me Maybe I'm maybe I'm just overly excited but uh I don't know I I I think he's going to be a gamer it's going to it's going to be a tough tougher decision than I think uh we we think off the bat here when Camp's over with definitely number seven on the list Michael Pratt quarterback an intense battle to be Jordan Love's backup will ensue during training camp and the preseason is both Michael Pratt and Sean Clifford push for the row uh we got a glimpse of it during many Camp uh but the best is still ahead Pratt a seventh round pick in this year's draft showed off his strong arm and solid decision- making during the offseason workout program however he still has a long way to go uh to actually challenge Clifford keep your eye on both guys as the Packers probably won't keep three quarterbacks I don't see them keeping three as well I'll tell you this there was rave reviews coming out of OTAs about Michael Pratt just throwing absolute seeds we did the chalk talk that actually was the first copyright strike on the channel so I'll tell you it was a good one too man he had he had some it was worth it he had some dots on there let me tell you so that was ao's fault wasn't it he was supposed to tell you everything's a oh it's always that is true the way it works but when it comes to Michael Pratt and Sean Clifford was preseason is going to be so much fun to watch I mean we're gonna see those dude battle their asses off for that that that backup spot I would have to choose Michael Pratt based off what I've seen and you guys know I like sha Clifford I was I'm one of those guys that if some reason Jordan went down for a short bit I feel like sha Clifford could come in and probably win a game or two I really believe that but Michael Pratt just looked like man I know I I'm really excited to see what he does in Camp in in h preseason if you guys had to choose today what would your money be on here Michael Pratt or Sean Cliff I don't like that that question to be honest uh I really don't because I I think it's unfair I think that what would be fair is ask me that kind of like Ron says here ask me that after the third preseason game because I've already seen enough out of um Clifford that Big Red Dog that I just want I I think that he has earned enough to at least get a spot but I've seen and heard enough about Pratt where you know he's younger he's a little taller he's got I think a lot better upside in the running Department as far as with his legs um he just kind of seems like one of those Green Bay quarterback um pipeline type guys that where they just can mold him if anything I'd like to keep I I don't know if we can get Clifford to the practice squad I don't know if that would ever be a scenario that would happen but if that's the case I mean I'd love to get back into the the age where we draft a quarterback and we don't need one you know groom it groom him and and actually make him into like a tradable type uh Prospect and get a second or a third or a fourth or a fifth round pick for these guys because that's the best thing you can do is to keep churning that roster so um that being said I'll say Pratt I think you hit the nail on the head man which one would most likely make it to the practice squad would be Sean Clifford or Michael Pratt Michael Pratt in some cases people had a second round grade on him why did he drop I have no idea and Clifford was not an A udfa and we weed up right Clifford was ranked on the consensus big board and it's not everything but you know it is what it is in the 500s in the 500 so I think you'd have a better shot of stashing Sean Clifford on the practice squad than Michael Pratt but what do you think Tim I think we're all in agreement here you got to remember that uh Clifford's older than Jordan love as well um I think we drafted Michael Pratt for a reason there was a reason when goody saw him up there uh at the seventh round we took him you know and uh I don't think we took him to stick him on the practice squad and if he did have as high as you know second round grading uh he's on the radar so he may not be safe um on the practice squad so I could see Clifford going there uh pending a great training camp from uh Michael Pratt which I think we'll see and uh again Jacob's right let's uh let's have this conversation after uh you know that third preseason game against the Ravens let's see what our backup QB situation really looks like at that point it could be a real different scenario but um I go with Pratt at this point for sure yeah you really you got me because I was I was thinking like you know theoretically right now if you were telling me right now I would still pick Clifford but that's just because Pratt hasn't had an offseason or anything he had OTAs and that or you know he had camps and that was it but um to Jacob's Point what if we had what if we just carry all three work somebody else off the roster then we're able to trade one two of them we still have a backup and you know um Clifford still has a year of being behind Jordan knowing what Jordan needs seeing what he sees all of that uh you know a different addition but that's that is a that's a brutal question like you just said IO that it seems so simple that like oh well obviously Clifford because he was ranked so low and but you remember the reason that the whole reason he was able to surpass that wide Gap and was drafted in the wasn't it the fifth is because the Packers specifically in my opinion thought okay we're not gonna have Rogers now we need somebody that's actually had experience that can be kind of that really good second in command kind of quarterback like you just said Emelia he watches he knows how to read defenses he sees what's happening he knows the Playbook he's get at communicating he'll probably be in there with the headsets talking and helping with that kind of stuff like he did in college and be able to like communicate better than most other backup quarterbacks that are rookies so do you think the Packers organizations are GNA be which this is where they could be living up to their name being kind of cut though they were where they're like you know thanks for your service we needed you we knew what we had now we don't need you anymore by we already got a new shinier model the Leo DiCaprio approach it's tried and true yeah Leo has entered the chat man so uh I like what Chris Nichols says here though we took Clifford in the fifth right we end up taking Pratt in the seventh so it shows you they had they had a higher draft grade on Clifford than Pratt there's no two ways about that right the question is now becomes who are you more likely to get away with stashing on the practice squad if you went based off of like Chris Nichols is saying just off draft status probably gonna try to stash Pratt right there's a chance of that so uh uh Ron SBO asked a great question I don't have the answer to that I'd love to know maybe Smitty can get on that um I wonder when the last time someone robbed a quarterback off a practice squad because again they got to tie up a a spot on that 53 man roster right you can't just stash them on your practice squad obviously so um that's a great question I'd like to know that let's move on to wide receiver number six and number five on the roster bubble list here is samori té wide receiver and Grant Duos I'm not going to read the the in or the description here because we know quite a bit about both of these guys Sor t two years years ago played a little bit of a role when people were banged up obviously had the touchdown catch there in Buffalo which was cool on the scramble drill from Aaron Rogers Grant newos they were pretty high on I remember everybody talking him up going into Camp he gets injured um when you look at the depth chart though this is where it gets really really tricky and there may be more wide receivers on down the line on this list we'll check here in a second but just based off of these two if we go off of the 53 last year we broke Camp was six Christian uh Christian Watson Romeo dobs samor T Jaden Reed Davian Wix and Malik Heath of those six right there Oly um Bo Melton's gonna make this roster I think we would all agree right so yeah you might swwa ter for for Melton on that list there exactly what I see here too and I think Grant deos is on the outside looking in as well does anybody disagree with that if not we'll just move forward because that seems pretty cut and dry no but what's crazy though is that I'm pretty sure that this was an indication of what they thought the depth chart would be as well just as far as the wide receivers and the skill positions go and you know right there obviously swap out B for Samari but you know you could argue that it would be Jaden Reed donaven Christian do or any combination of those Malik Keith though I hope still makes this team and obviously like it's so crazy to think that our fifth wide receiver is you could swap him to our wide receiver number one and I'd be like okay cool like right I don't care I'll tell you one thing don't sleep on Grant toos we're gonna get a love him so much we're gonna get an entertaining camp out of him um I think he's going to get targets uh in the preseason games he's hungry he's been putting in the work you talk about guys you know like Wix and Reed that were you know working out together putting in the extra work really the the season never really ended for them you know they they packed up their lockers and went right to work so uh Grant toos is no exception I mean he's been working working to get back from that injury uh since it happened so I think um you know he's going to be ready to go it's going to be interesting I if it's him or tur I think tur gets the boot I think we're we're over the Samari tur experiment here and uh if anyone's going to maybe get a a a shot at at least being on the practice squad again it's probably gonna be uh Grant toos this year I put him right behind Malik Heath you know yeah and that last bit on that paragraph there was saying that he uh deos um was got signed to a Futures Reserve contract anyway so probably same route moving forward this year yeah Milo thank you for pulling this up want to give a shout out to Fred mcfarley thank you for the Super Chat rant they're called rants on Rumble appreciate you supporting the show Buddy says I don't think té has a shot unless we have multiple wide receiver injuries in the preseason future jet they need wide receiver death and Aaron Lo there you go there you go I love it yeah again thank you so much for the rant buddy thank you for the uh we're gonna call him Super Chat rants because everybody knows them in super chats but thank you so much for supporting the stream pal can I ask a question quick yeah absolutely uh I don't honestly I you know me I love the discount the seventh rounders the udfas I never looked into grant deos much after he got hurt I know it wasn't it Charlotte that he played for what's his body type uh Slash what's his receiver um what's kind of like the position that he would thrive in is he a possession receiver one of those slot guys he seems he's a more bigger body guy isn't he he talking about Grant yeah yeah yes sir they they have him third behind Romeo dos so I imag they're treating him as an ex As an X now this is ESPN again you kind of see Bo Melton in that in that spot as well for the most part because you want to isolate him on one side of the field short side of the field um so they have him as an ex honestly the way I've always looked at Grant deos is he's he's more like a uh a well-rounded wide receiver I I don't see him Tim correct me if I'm wrong do you see him as a slot an X or a z I just kind of see him as a receiver you know yes I was just going to say yes I see him as those uh I got him at 62201 yeah so he's got the physical build you know he's above six feet that's a good sign right above 200 pounds you know that's a good sign uh as far as the wear and tear um and he's got good hands I I really really believe that um I'm he's probably when it comes to the offense as far as like bubble guys or under the radar guys he's probably the guy most excited to go go see at camp this year um just because uh you know it was watching him and Malik Heath battle for for a spot last year was entertaining so um this year will'll be no exception for sure and it's what somebody said in the chat earlier man there is just competition everywhere on this roster man if there was ever a year to go to training camp this is the year there's gonna be some battles Angus says yet big body guy big body guy good route Runner and blocker he was projected as possible second rounder before his final season so there you go man showed a lot of upside had a down sound like a down down Year's final year in college it sounds like so 4740 35 in vertical 105 broad jump 689 con drill Little Star put a little star next to grantab Bose's name on your list of guys to watch so you guys don't you know if you're paying attention boys and girls at home make you know what that like Prince said just right now uh when we just showed it like he that's the Packers Mo Jaden Reed a lot of guys that like had the they had they look good and they had kind of a fall off for whatever reason in year two or year three whatever the case is and all of a sudden the Packers are like oh no no I know what you do don't you come over here y have some candy I don't know why they're Ling was that get in my van Grant toos de pressure oh my God are you trying to say somebody's sniffing Grant deos Grant the Bose R score if this is correct was a 8.79 so like ailio said 6 foot2 2011 um the big thing that stood out was his 10 yard split 152 which gr out is a 937 obviously that is the first 10 yards of the 40 yard dash so he's got great acceleration got good with the broad so there you go as far as the vertical um the gr out is a 612 at that 35 which I think millio you had him a little higher than that the shuttle the shuttle is definitely weak point but his three comb was decent at 767 so I'd like to see his shuttle time now yeah right I bet you it's improved I'd be willing to bet he's he's made an improvement I guarantee number four on the list Jacobs hero Brenton Cox Jr defensive end so they've got him listed as a defensive end I was wondering if maybe he would switch over to stack backer where he kind of played that hybrid Viper top backer for Florida um but they've got him listed as a defensive in here says with four defensive ends locked in to make the roster that's ran Gary Preston Smith LVN and Kings L Bar the big question is whether Green Bay will keep a fifth if they do Brenton Cox Jr has already begun to separate himself from the rest of his competition after a troubled collegiate career that's why Jacob likes him Cox went undrafted last year Green Bay scooped him up as a free agent and he quickly showed his upside he could benefit from another developmental year and should be able to stick around Green Bay to do so Jacob you remember last year we're going to give you the floor with this man but they they refused to try to pass him off on the practice squad they knew he was going to get snatched up right I mean he was one of those guys that I sent that flashed like on the same level as when I sent you the Javon Bullard tape that guy Brenton Cox Jr and Grant me uh don't get me wrong he it was a highlight reel so what we learned about when we watch actual footage of Brenton Cox Jr he was the epitome of what we were worried about last year when uh rashan Gary would just over pursue and then people would just kind of slide up through that Gap uh and just completely take advantage of that over Pursuit the thing is is when he did click when they did have him throw you know kind of caution of the wind or when you give him an assignment or a gap uh designation where he knew what his job was he was Lethal and the guy batted down balls which is qu uh quite like a lot of him he was really good at getting his hands up and he was an athletic freak against the pass rush and was pretty good against the rush as well he was a little bit under sized he had some stuff you know who doesn't get kicked out at two CP top colleges you know here or there every now and then uh it sounded like he was more of a guy that was kind of a I don't know he it sounded like he was a good teammate but he was just he would just freak out every now and then and just do some stupid stuff um and you know that being said I I want like Fred said right here I swear Cox is going to be that meat missile that is just going to be like a a week in and week out to the point where I really do think that he is going to be a like if he puts his hand on the ground too if you watches highlight reils he did that quite a bit he wasn't just kind of a um an edge Defender he did have his hand in the dirt and like I said he did defend against the run pretty well he was great against the pass even with the pass rush and with putting his hands up and batting balls down I think that they'll keep him as a dn5 and um if I don't think that they're gonna put him on the practice squad I think he'd still get taken Jacob was talking about him being that that hothead Brenton Cox J being that hothead always getting into trouble everybody everybody listening to this podcast right now watching the show live you immediately thought of that one person in your group right yep that's him that's that guy and if you didn't guess what you were that guy right there's one in every village I promise you right and uh again you want that as BR papingo once said that aggressivity on your defense but as long as it's not yeah our guys better wake up with their piss hot like I said before so and he does wake up with his is piss out there's no two ways about it Angus mgus says Jacob has a van with free hugs painted on the side it's all rusted up that old 80s style maroon Dodge van you guys know what I'm talking about everybody's got an uncle that drives Uncle Rico van Arrow of the astrovan you remember those things they had the curtains on the windows so bad it's good Curt we're talking meat missiles and curtains on the Windows of Vans just the tip though Christian Welch God we ain't gonna last long on YouTu Christian wch linebacker the Packers want to keep more depth at linebacker than in years past as they transition to the 4-3 alignment but how many does that mean we know Quay Walker isai McDuffy Eric Wilson Edan Cooper and Tyron Hopper will likely make the team could Welch squeeze himself into that conversation as well or squeeze himself into Jacob's van if he does it might come at the expense of cornerback or safety that means Welch will have to not only prove himself on defense but show he can be a quality special teams contributor as well so when we look at the depth chart here I'm sorry the final 53 last year keep in mind last year we carried five inside linebackers but again we only carried six defensive linemen however six outside linebackers which were essentially Edge Defenders right so look at it this way defensive linemen those are your interior defensive linemen so we carried six interior defensive linemen six six Edge Defenders and you only have five inside linebackers I see the edge cutting back to at least five and that inside linebacker going to six so when you look at it from that angle I think there's a decent chance Christian Welch can make the roster the problem is though or the question is can he play special teams I'm gonna give this one to Tim our resident defensive fan here what do you think Christian Welch you think he's got a legit shot to squeeze himself on this roster if we carry six man because again they said let's say we carry six this year qu Walker isai McDuffy Eric Wilson edrian Cooper Tyron Hopper there's your top five does Christian Welch make the roster as that six Lineback yes if and that's probably the only way he makes the roster is if we in fact do go and take that extra that extra backer going to the 43 like you mentioned earlier I think that provides an easier path for him however let's not rule out the fact that we could see some Camp bodies cycling in and out um throughout the month of uh July and August here and uh you know I don't I don't know I I feel like Christian Welch is a special teamer but I don't think we've seen enough right really what it comes down to Tim it looks like to me looking at the dep chart Christian young Christian Welch and Aron Aaron Mosby are probably gonna be the guys competing for that that last linebacker spot I'm going with Christian Welch and ESPN has him listed as a mock I don't know if that's accurate where they you know most of the time Rob the oi from what I understand gives a little bit of information here because he's right there in Lambo field on a daily basis so um maybe maybe he's seen something that suggests Christian Welch is more of a mock if that's the case then I think Christian Welch has the edge over Christian young and Aaron Mosby and even Kean Banks um but as much as I want a linebacker whose name is go forth on the roster right go forth ra raen go forth go forth and smacketh someone in the mouth right but I like Kean Banks too I mean he I I just I think you're right if it's going to be for the six spot it's goingon to be be between Mosby and um and our boy um Welch yeah Christian Welch I think so we'll see what happens I love it you know last year we broke camp with 26 Defenders a Milo Tim if Tim had say so we we break camp with 35 No Doubt right oh def we got hey let's bring it back man start playing both sides of the ball again Iron Man football man let's have a uh a final 53 with 43 Defenders let's go Kristen wels comes in 63 240 26 years old from uh College Iowa and he's fifth season in the NFL head his first forward the Ravens and he was born in Iola Wisconsin Iola right get it yeah show in the country shout out to the Iola car show see yeah so uh Ron sell said uh Wilson question mark uh so obviously we're all assuming Eric Wilson's going to make the roster right as special teamers right yeah that dude is and that's the thing too like when you talk about Tyler Davis and so if it comes down to Ben Sims and Tyler Davis is is Tyler Davis and Eric Wilson kind of competing for that top special teams player I'm choosing I'm choosing Eric Wilson over Tyler Davis but again it may not come down to those two guys deciding on which one we I think Eric Wilson is a lock for sure there Ron um all right cool let's see what else we got here um up next on the list is Zane Anderson safety again last year we broke camp with five safeties it was Darnell Savage Rudy Ford Jonathan Owens D Lev Anthony Johnson Jr there's only one of those guys left on the roster so if we carry five breaking camp this year Javon Bullard Xavier McKenna Evan Williams Anthony Johnson Jr Katan oladapo the question is do we carry six I would say no however katano ladapo if he's not ready and he's one of those guys that he starts the season on irj that's how Zay Anderson makes maybe makes the roster but uh for me I think uh I think Zayn Anderson's out in this category here what do you think uh Jacob amilio what do you two guys think about this I think that um just for the reason you just said I think that alapo is just banking on the fact that he's going to get back from his injury just slide right in to the uh you know maybe second third maybe if all if he's crazy first team but I don't think that's gonna actually happen like we talked about so many times when you're injured you just don't have the feel like if you ever played Sports I know that um anybody that's that's played Sports if you aren't there with the team even in the offseason for you just feel like you're missing out you're not there you're not understanding like the team Dynamic you're not witnessing like certain adjustments and things you're learning from so if you're not physically on the field I just don't think unless you are that much of a freak athletically and you just understand things you can absorb the Playbook like a sponge and you don't need that much repetition to actually get it to a good level I I think it's gonna hurt him so I could see Zan Anderson that made more sense to me than a lot of these guys on this list and plus the fact homy had like three interceptions and one practice the other day so yeah definitely Angus mcag says the pins how much we think they will be playing nickel with only two linebackers on the field how many make the 53 the the thing about that Angus it's a great Point don't get me wrong but you've got to be prepared to B play base 43 you've got to be prepared because all if you come out and you play a team that just all of a sudden goes 12 heavy or even a 13 look like some teams are doing you're screwed especially if oladapo is not healthy right because that everyone's just kind of assuming he's gonna be that hybrid kind of big nickel if Javon Bullard doesn't just move completely to the slot in that case you're looking at him like Brian branch of him just being a corner as opposed to a true safety um I think it's a great point but for me you got to be prepared because again you know the in the olden days of of pro football it was simply you played your personnel based off of down and distance today you're matching Personnel right and if a team comes out and plays 12 and 13 you got to be prepared to have that 4-3 base out there you get one or two injuries and you're only carrying let's say four linebackers five linebackers let's say you're only carrying four because you're looking at it like I we going to be a nickel a lot of the time you get one or two injuries in a game you're screwed right you're going to have safeties out there trying to play stack backer in a base 43 and you're kind of as my old ball coach used to say you're pissing in the win boys so um all right last one kayin king we're right up against the time limit here so this worked out good kayin King was dubbed as one of the biggest steals of the draft um after the Packers let me drop this down so you guys can see what I'm reading here real quick I apologize um one of the biggest deals of the draft after the Packers selected him in the seventh round that was after a Down Season at Penn State knocked him down from a potential first round pick to one of the final Selections in the entire draft in just one year now King might not even make a roster coming out of training camp uh the Packers have five quarterbacks ahead of him with starting ex experience J Alexander Eric Stokes Carrington Balentine Keesha Nix and Corey Ballentine however King can make the roster as a sixth Corner if he shows enough potential hopefully he carries that chip on his shoulder from the draft now here's what's crazy we're talking about where they carry six the final 53 last year we broke Camp of four so I'm telling you every position we uncovered it's literally like the 03 suja segment where they're they're literally they got a hole in the boat it's like oh we got to get the water out so they screw another hole in the boat and they let that water it's just literally you plug one hole you're springing a leak somewhere else man like this is going to be tough I'm not looking forward to the podcast during training camp because we're going to be it's going to be like a merry go round we're just going to be constantly going well no you keep him no we keep him it's gonna be wild man you know what I venture to say I want to have anybody in the uh chat try to maybe flag this I bet you that this report don't report on you I bet you that this Packers roster when it's all said and done when they actually cut down to the 53 there will be more of our cut team members that make other teams than years prior like I really think so I can see that man for sure let's see here uh coach Lyn says yeah you don't want to look like the Cowboys on D lol talking about uh playing playing too much nickel there or at least building your roster in that regard because that's what they were forced to do at times but uh what you guys think kayin King man this is tough again you look at the roster here J Alexander keesan Nixon you've got Eric Stokes Carrington Valentine I think we're all agree those four are absolute locks Cy Ballentine might not be a lock although you guys know how I feel I think he should be but if it comes down to hey we're just going to break Camp four like we have in the past if that's the case that that roster battle is going to be Cory Ballentine and kayin King and uh that's tough man that's a tough now he did make it to the seventh round maybe he could make it onto the practice squad I don't know but think something tells me that um Eric Stokes is going to play some preseason ball this year that's just oh yeah feeling I'm getting so um if that's the case kin King's probably going to see less snaps you know I mean you know if someone's getting them someone else isn't right um but I do think that uh they're going to look to uh tune up Eric Stokes here going into uh this season to get him hitting the ground running um after the struggles that he's had the past couple years with the injuries so um that's something to pay attention to I I do see him getting more more reps than uh than usual uh for sure during the preseason definitely Milo you got anything bro no man that's a battle like you said I I tried to count it out but it's you know with Kean J Stokes you don't think Valentine's gonna get cut right or put try to put him on the practice squad can't do that or is he still young enough I don't think he is to be honest we now there's I think you can put a couple veterans on there now I don't know how many we need to I need to know those answers to those yeah we're going to have we're going to have to do some digging because I mean would you would you feel better about bringing King on the on the roster this year and sending valent sending Valentine down to the practice squad um well oh you're saying Carrington Valentine or yeah Carrington right not valentine yeah valentine for me you you no no right I'm saying Valentine make it send Carrington down and then a battle sort of thing that's now that's a great question that could be the actual battle there right because you guys know I love him he's from Kentucky but I don't feel like Carrington Valentine played that well last year I just don't right compared to Valentine so what if what if imagine this let me just paint this doomsday scenario for you what if you say we're keeping carington Valentine you try to stash kin King on the practice squad someone picks him up adds him to the active roster and he ends up being the darling rookie this year I would not be able to sleep at not man that would suck that's my worry that's where I'm like could we get away a little bit more throwing Carrington on the practice squad I didn't even think about it that's a great point that might be the play there of course we may look two weeks into camp and go damn Carrington Valentine's lighting it up boys like right let's see here let's finish up in the chat real quick this was a fun little exercise man I'm glad we had time to do this um it's always cool to kind of get ahead of the curve there in that regard when it comes to Camp battles and stuff because it's right around the corner I mean obviously we're they're going to be reporting rookies are going to report on the 17th so it won't be no time we'll be saying hey two weeks out right so amm in the chat say King's greatest skill is screen and bubble pass recognition other than that me I would agree with that for 2023 20 great the Bears you what's that king I said so we do great against the Bears oh yeah there you go right well Justin Fields is Bears anyway right um let's see here uh Randy C says have to find a way to keep King yeah again man if he goes out and balls out somewhere else I'm just gonna throw up on my shoes ain't no doubt about that um Chris Nichols says King needs a 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like they cut weight a little bit on our defense that have Trimm up toned up a little bit let everybody else get faster we need somebody in the middle to stop them yeah just get in the way right exactly need to be pretty all right guys this was fun we had a ton of people watching I know we had a bunch of people on Rumble we have 63 on YouTube we've got 184 on Twitter thank you all for hanging out the numbers are growing like crazy again we grew through the suspension on YouTube we gained subscribers pretty much every every day we're like Jer man we come out of the suspension better you know let's go it's a great here to tell you PTA is back is back from a fan better recut that because we got to get the you heard it from a fan in there man I I don't know what I was doing but uh moving forward I think there is about a uh 65% 65% that's chance that we stay on YouTube but you never know so that was pretty good odds for us yeah I let's be realistic it's way less than 65% that's that's not 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