Handsome Hour #212: PURDUE FOOTBALL IS BACK FOR 2024 (...with the hardest schedule possible)

I already opened it I'm sorry I already opened it this is we back a long time we back and we're we're as tuned in as ever it is 9:09 Eastern time just under the 10minute you can leave the classroom if the professor has not shown that everyone of us made up and and you just gave a quizzical look like he's never heard that you know why because Anish was a good student right that's what that's about he wouldn't he wouldn't jump out of there you and I'd be gone we be gone at the ninth minute 10 minutes it's the boil Sports handsome hour and since what what do we what have we missed let's see there's no Pack 12 anymore right no I guess that's not true there's a pack two as the last year but there are there are it's 50% chance of winning it it's a there's no Pack 12 I was going to list all the teams that have changed conferences but we only have an hour um Nick Sabin retired uh Pat McAfee barf in Dublin over the weekend I don't know if you guys saw that yeah that's great great programming what you should do is just lay off you know like he get paid like $13 million a year yeah and so ESPN is now cash strapped and so you know this they they that's what they're paying for there guys like him Mass layoffs of production team meanwhile Pat mcki just pukes on the air I'm sorry it's a great way to open the show continue I'm just going through the things that uh we you know I'm catching everybody up coach Walters I'm estimating did about 400 deadlifts and 1,200 curls yeah good that sound about right it's great having a coach who's what a decade younger than us not younger than a niche but no he's not younger than me not yet at least not yet you think you'll catch him Nish I mean you never know yeah not with the like I'm gonna have the attitude like you know go out and win every game so like yeah sure eventually sure uh and the true college football playoff that everybody has wanted is actually here now and I will just say right now I'm not usually the ultra traditionalist here but I think we're not going to like this as much as we think we're going to like I'm just going to throw that out there as as much as what as much as we all thought we were going to it everybody thought this solves a lot and I don't know if it solves I think it's better than it doesn't solve it like there's no there's no it it it's going to be kind of gross I hate to quot the people who were the traditionalists who acted like the bull system was the best but one thing that they were all right about is that every week was amazing because of the fact that if you lost at all you were screwed probably but but there's more there's more big games now because of the realignments though that's the the counterbalance to that and and it's legit like every week has huge game after huge game after huge game right it's it's wild you look at the pl yes how many weeks did you have last year where you're like okay I'm not leaving my couch because it's gonna be amazing five four right right this year it's like 10 weeks of that yes so so there's GNA be so many big matchups that you lose one okay now you're now you're on short you know short notice I I I I everything's ten tenous though right everything is it doesn't matter what it is it feels like it's just gonna all be yeah it's just it could fall all apart next year be totally different Utah's coach right what was that two weeks ago saying oh we're not done with with realignment more is coming I think it was Utah's coach oh yeah I mean and and last week I mean like last week finally something different it doesn't really have muchal it doesn't really have much to do with football but it's like Yukon the Yukon to the Big 12 rumors have already started which is great yep right let's go you but what I've lost track do they need another team are they back to 12 they are at 14 now they're 14 remember how they were 10 for a while that was my favorite I've said this to you guys right when the Big 10 was 12 and the Big 12 was 10 and the Pack 12 was 14 it's great all makes sense imagine it's like explaining the rules of English to a non-native English speaker like imagine explaining these rules imag you just landed here and it's the big 10 that seems simple enough yeah 10 teams it's not even regionally like the dumb ACC with teams from California right right somebody told me that's now all Coast Conference yeah it's all Co no it's all of the coasts incling they didn't change it officially though they they to keep the soon it will include the coast of probably Texas and they'll just say well yeah the team's Costa Rica's got a coast that's right read the name they've got a great med school in Costa Rica uh so oh you were talking about you know big matchups and teams you know well if you lose one you still got another one coming up or maybe you don't what if you had what if you were a big team with big aspirations and you were playing sort of a middling opponent in week zero and you lost what would that do to you how about how about if you played a midan opponent in a conference you said the problem was we didn't have enough we didn't have enough tough opponents how much Justice is served there there I man when that game started and it was close early I remember I said to you guys later I said I wish I was gonna say to you guys this morning man Georgia Tech has the chance to do something so funny today but I didn't say it because I'm like that's not gonna happen there's no it's and it did and it did if it's on foreign soil it doesn't matter we were talking about this and it's hilarious it's not it's still number two in the most hilarious Ireland game that's ever happened because number one is Nebraska with Skyhigh Scot Frost expectations coming in losing to Northwestern I think still a fat pzg Northwestern fat pittz Gerald yeah and um then proceed Northwestern proceeding to go defeated in the United States defeated they didn't win on us soil no no unless like Wembley Stadium or wherever they play in Dublin is like it's yeah exactly um but like yeah it's hilar that continues to be number one you just you're chumming the waters you're bringing Nebraska up this early oh we'll be doing what are we minutes into the season and you're bringing up Nebraska you watch you watched my prediction about Nebraska there were a lot of people that that made a note that that this must make Jay angry that you have you just kind of say yeah produ is gonna lose in Nebraska they thought you would be upset with that I I don't I don't think they're gonna lose to Nebraska the game's I'm glad to hear that I I think they're going to be more I mean they're obviously more competent with like that I think they're more compet they're going to be good like I do think and the talent didn't shut off like there's just so many reasons to believe that nebras like last year they had the same coach and they had the talent and they went five and seven first year of the system I'm going to use the Nebraska and the puru theorem here at the same thing I think both programs take a step forward produce step forward maybe get you to the edge of maybe flirting with a Bull game Nebraska you get seven to eight wins wow and every every um every team that Matt rule takes over except for the Carolina Panthers every college football team that Matt rule takes over usually tanks in the first year let's be honest though the Panthers have been worse since he left exactly that might not be causation that might and that is such a poorly run the ownership is so bad there actually I'm I'm not I'm not I wouldn't pin all that on Matt Ru Pittsburgh's own David terer owns the Carolina Panthers and he's bad cpool he's really that oh bring it closer bring it in closer baby that the red shirt really brings out the blood in your face the crazy look too that does it you you look like Anger from inside out it's when you look through when you look through the people and and the the guy's there for his right his Coke P pickup yeah you in there I was just trying to match the intensity you got a lot coming at me Jay it's like you're you're you know you're just like you're ready for the season look at you are leaning in you're funny is you just you just said you're calling for seven to eight wins for Nebraska which does feel like that'd be a big step forward but the hilarious part is that still so far behind what they think they I know I know I was asking so I quizzed a friend of mine a Purdue guy on do you know can neither of you name the last coach to win nine games even nine at Nebraska Pini It's gotta be bo that's what he said Mike Riley went N9 and four in his first season there haven't I fallen for this one before I feel like I've fallen for this no I I only have so many Nebraska trivia question you're after all you're not really the Nebraska uh Authority that you I just like to talk about them ha so much oh man um by the way over in the comments Dylan says he's excited for annual hugs yes from us and it it'll be early uh weekly I don't annual hugs yeah this there there's there's multiple opportunities so oh yeah oh yeah um yes Ted berky says Riley he is correct they they won that's I love that I love pointing that out to Nebraska fans too youd know that about me I just loved to the last time last coach brought you to those Heights and they acted like it never even happened by the way right the Riley era just they've run out every coach who won nine games there right going way back to Frank Solage anyway this isn't the Nebraska hour you guys see n just wound me up back baby we're back okay here I'm gonna use Riley as a segue yeah okay like you're G to stand on them and drive tilting and stuff yep or the Oregon that's funny sorry that's very took it the the two the old school Tu plate was good it was good I was constituting my question so I couldn't really it just hit my brain slower that was funny um all right now I'm still laughing PR okay okay uh Oregon State since Riley is a former Oregon State guy my opinion is the season pivots on the Oregon State game the puru season to switch away from the Nebraska hour yeah yeah yeah um do you agree with that simple mean I get what you mean no I don't think it I I I understand to you mean I don't want to I don't want to step on your point I think I think it's a very valid point and I think your point is well Tak they win this weekend and then they win there you feel great about the season even if things don't go swimmingly the rest of the way you feel good okay we've won on a road we've won far from home off to a 2- 0 start right like you feel that would be it right they're the second game right they're the they're next weekend not next but because it's the the strange bye and then should we have the schedule up in front of us exactly there's Notre Dame there's Notre Dame exactly Indiana State bi-week Notre Dame Oregon State then organ State okay I thought organ state was before Notre Dame um after an upset of Notre Dame pretty well head to right so scr so they'll already be two and0 when they go so then beware the let down yeah that would be oh God C more Purdue scenario like yeah beat L I would I think I would I would surmise a guest that everyone watching would take that the home win over another game and a Los yes absolutely would take that trade exactly because you don't hate Oregon State You' be like good for you guys you're having you're at the [ __ ] end of the stick here up in and everybody is like man Oregon State's kind of like in limbo right now like obviously their program is but literally has there ever been anything more in limbo than Oregon State right now I've been very close to buying an Oregon State HomeField apparel shirt because there are a few of them that are lovely and it's like yeah the next sale like maybe if if Purdue wins or loses who knows who's who's what I mean there's nothing unlikable they're not Oregon no they're not unlikable they're not yeah like in fact you got to kind of love them because they're the anti- Oregon in the same area right I mean like if you if you like all that is decent and good because like Oregon is I don't know if I'm going to say this now I I don't know if you guys heard about the Phil Knight's Grand statement about the nil Phil Knight said I'm getting old because I think he's 80 something y he said I don't have much more time left so I'm willing to pay anything in nil to get a championship yep just came right out and said it and I was like holy crap think about that statement and by the way they haven't lost a recruiting battle since they have not lost it's going to be close this year like this year I mean and you you talked about it in your season very close are a beast of a team I think they they offered um Lanning what Alabama kind of called and kind of soft offered laning the job like he's he's the best young coach in the I said the same thing I'm sure Alabama offered him the job and I'm sure he chose to stay because he wants to be at Oregon I I win a title yeah win a title out there Phil Knight is on this you know if you go to Alabama and you win a title big deal ex took you took sabin's team and you won a title good for you right you wi it at Oregon first guy who's ever done it like that'd be amazing that'd be great I I actually wonder and if we did any research uh before the showu exactly like maybe we maybe like we would come up with this are we the only uh team in the country that plays both Oregon and Oregon State you mean as opposed to like the other 10 teams that did that every year yeah exactly like there used to be a whole conference built yeah exactly a Regional Conference I don't think I I think we may still I think we may be the only one I don't are you saying's an honorary member of the P 12 yeah we're brothers Oregon State Virginia Tech Purdue these are the these are the like-minded peer programs I love Purdue is yeah right along the Wabash that's just like being in the Pacific coast you can ride the Wabash all the way to Oregon State I'm pretty sure and by the way Oregon state is not near the the Pacific coast really they're two and a half three hours away neither Colorado and they were in the fact 12 so right or Arizona yeah names mean I like these landlocked states that were in the Pack 12 not that we need to relitigate the stupidity of that conference but man talk about talk about all the stupidity of all the conferences now nobody nobody stop with the regional naming the only one I we said this last year the only one that's that always made sense and kind of still does is the SEC oh yeah absolutely there's nobody what Texas is the furthest west or Oklahoma one of them so it's not quite but up until now it's been in the eastern part of the country yeah well that's the funny thing I've always laughed about Missouri calling them I know they they they are part you're right Missouri's it that was it yeah yeah I still don't think of them as an SEC team no I don't I I don't either and we're we're how long seven eight years into oh easy yeah so there is one other team this year that plays both Purdue and uh you're that place oh the research Department got back to you that fast the research the research Department uh came back in do you want to haard a guess hold on uh that plays both Oregon and Oregon State it's got to be a big 10 team right is it I don't know I'm I'm trying to narrow it down you're not gonna give me uh okay uh USC is Ryan uh or is who's Ryan is boiler D's yeah no no one right uh who could piece that particular exactly mystery together J buddy what is your guess um playing both Oregon and Oregon State in the same season other than Purdue Washington Washington excellent guest Boise state is the answer the Boise State Bronco of course why not of course that makes complete sense why would we John Hawks guest Idaho John Idaho was a great guess that was going to be one of mine regionally very close the mighty vandals would have been a much closer uh Vandal have a hard schedule every year we've talked about this the kib dome is where I want to go that's one my bu that Kibby doome shirt I'm going to buy you that Kibby doome shirt I want to I want to go to a game HomeField have a Kibby doome they have a Kibby Dome shirt it's awesome awesome I gotta go though I gotta earn that shirt has this thing about how I don't like wearing other schools stuff he thinks I'm weird about this I'm with I'm with Jay on this uh oh okay Mr fdu shirt wearer well that they earned it that the underdog great story I mean who doesn't love an underdog I mean my gosh Come on shock the world man I my Hawaii by the way I haven't worn that shirt for the record since I think wait hold on I'm sorry you cut out there boiler dad what happened I said I haven't I was wondering where you got that there it is I assume it was final four that's a fair fair assumption Jay but no the my my uh my ink that I promised the world and myself years ago I think Jay still owes himself a trip to the tattoo artist I do with the Tyson I think so you said you were just going to get a motion PE right yeah if mine will not be I like that you went all the way with the you commemorated what it was but no I think would I think you would agree it's fair right if I just want to go with the logo yeah no you I mean getting getting which logo that would you do the motion P would you do your favorite train logo that's a good idea oh that's not a bad idea that's a good idea the 80s TR love the motion though I love the motion ended in the early 90s yeah but but I the motion P to me is so Timeless is it isn't Timeless because it was a block pee like right before we went to college or maybe when we started is the the motion P might not be there forever right to me the block p is the one that has is the one that's chiseled out of the stone right that's so the one that Pur had before the elongated pee that uh peran uh stole from Purdue and used in Friday Night Lights oh yeah that's the PE that's right before the motion P that's the one that was there when Jay and I WR K I think yeah I think you got to you got to get it now mcis the Train's a lot of detail that's the only trick it's a lot of detail and I can tell you that um one of my tattoos I've got two has too much detail and it's bleeding because is it well because you did it small did it small I should have gone big that's the thing just get it all across your shoulder like the whole thing on your back well here's the difference though today yes needles you can get a lot more detail have you seen like there's many tattoos now like you can get way more than even back when you got that one they can get very precise with with uh with much more the problem is the medium is not great still the human human flesh still it's a tough canvas it's living and so so Inc moves and and does things so even even the best artist it's still gonna it's still gonna change over time so I mean you're you're still planning on U competing in the uh what bodybuilding uh senior bodybuilding category is that right seniors is that what you said when you're I think they call it the senior division when it's 50 and over you're not far you're not far away exact senior ter I'm not saying you're old I can't say that you're younger than me by a lot I mean son that's right so um no I I uh I think it's it's a hard uh hard decision you take your time until the next one which is going to happen next year so we'll be yeah that's my my brother asked me this weekend what do you do when Purdue wins the national championship I said that's going on the shoulder go this is outside it goes outside so hell yeah yeah it's not what is he what is he what is he implying that there will be so many that you'll run out of space or something I let's let's let's cross that bridge when we get there and let's hope let's find out exact what you do is you get a banner tattoo and then you just add the years oh now we're thinking now we're using the old new now you could still run out of space in theory but then you do another banner I suppose exactly so so we're all on the same page painter is going to like four or five right I mean yeah yeah of course what are you talking about but Greg MC mcmanis has a good point it's the Masters division not the senior division thank you well and in golf as a fellow Masters division gentleman well golf the pro tour used to call it the senior tour and they changed it to the champions tour I guess because they don't want to make them feel bad yeah I guess everything's political I don't think any golfer making millions I don't think they would give a damn right yeah they don't care Senior Tour was kind of cool by the way so there a lot of things that are funny to me right now with um phones and computers listening to me um it happens all the time oh yeah I slipped a disc in my back about uh eight days ago and I'm still not right listening devices yes dis a dis a dis exactly um very and literally the next day so one of the things I love to do is I love to buy cameras and shop for cameras and lenses I don't know why I don't even take that many pictures but I want to get the perfect shot okay so I've had a bunch of different cameras and now I'm looking for the best economic camera where I can just put in my pocket something uh for street photography okay my back was hurting and I literally was talking to people um that's a good question it's a good question um my back was hurting the next day I get on YouTube and it says if your back is hurting this is the camera you should buy and I was like screw you everybody who listening to me I hope you got that I've had so many things this summer I had one happen this is not a joke tell me if you have had this happen this one's crazy I'm on the phone with a good friend of mine we're talking about our kids are both 18 years old okay his daughter had turned 18 the night before the phone call he's telling me on the phone this is not a joke on the phone he's telling me about her birthday okay I get off the phone I get a message from myself from my calendar it says you want to add this birthday to your calendar oh I hate that oh I hate that do not like dude do not like at all I was really angry about that and yet you were like yes I will add it to my calendar so yeah I do I do need it than thank you artificial always listening to me sole before there were constant listening devices so the earlier day I have a story about this so the earlier days of this um do this began with things like Google was one of the first of this right whatever you were emailing or searching about you get little targeted ads in your Gmail like next to your Gmail and stuff I don't remember this I don't think it's as common now but you get these little like so I can't remember if it was somebody I knew if it was a story I read but this is a long time ago mansiz women's underwear why would I want that well the story was about a person who had co-work a coworker who was deathly afraid of bees which is like me as well okay and what they did was they went into their they went into their Gmail and they set uh like you know how you can put like a footer in your emails yeah they put a footer that just said bees bees bees bees bees bees bees bees bees but they made it in white text on the white background so you'd never see it so every email he sent talked about bees so he just got constant targeted ads for beekeeping and bees and Hive things honey and I was like man that is jokes that's one of the best practical you'll never figure it out that's great that's so good awesome now you're going to do something like that don't you yeah that is so I like to say stuff to people's um alexas when I'm in their house oh I do too I to yeah I like to add stuff to their shopping cart yes that's the best that is the best I don't buy it I just add it like add 47 whatever and then the next time they go on Amazon like what the hell is this or if they just process it they surprise right get depends depends better be one of the things you always add because that's for me that is that's a staple when I see an Alexa I'm going in for the depends you had depends like every time diapers yes the adult diapers yeah ah man let's talk about football speaking of speaking of soiling yourself I don't think it's gonna happen a lot this I don't think I don't know we'll see we will discuss soon on the handsome hour that's a tease if we had ads okay continue oh part of the believe Network say sure I don't know who knows who cares um sure who cares who knows let them direct deposit us first what should I say that one thing would be great yeah for all of you who are looking to get rich from podcasting let me tell you if you follow the Jay Anish and boiler Dow model it's not gonna happen no it's I'm going the other way Anish it's it's never it's not it doesn't happen there is no Mon's coming it's what about the people that have been 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fire station turn left turn left what if I'm coming from the other direction no you're just it's going to be a long it's going to take a long time you have to go all the way around the world yeah he took the longest possible bath but it's fine you'll get follow your nose damn it go to the fire station and you'll smell the delicious your nose the pretzel the pretzel app you can't lose on Vine Street so if you're using a map like most people who don't navigate by fire stations you would do it all by F everything's by F however what should I wear what should I wear to it the sponsor that we've already you should wear you should wear something that none of us are wearing ing HomeField apparel t-shirt you don't know we decided we decided we decided to kick the season off with completely no home field apparel even though we all own plenty of it because we love this stuff but we've already plugged two of two non- produce schols that have excellent a home field thank what's our code this year boiled boiled 25 let's go boil like how to thinking ahead this will work now through next basketball year it'll still make sense I did that I did it it was me it was me I did it I did it I did it it was my choice because I was like during I was like dude we're going to make another big run through April that's what we do I guess I should be happy you know what year it is that's a good good that is good it's the fiscal year the 2025 right we've already started very soon it boils um okay that was the longest ad copy we've ever had I think that was about two minutes there was nothing wrong with that felt like forever I feel like a [ __ ] so let me let me hit you with some let me hit you with some research some actual research that I gave you time this is awesome on buet sports.com in advance of the show Good Lord um it is obviously on a spread I know it's obviously on a spreadsheet so last year produce Advanced rankings it happens it happens it's the first year it's a new system it's a new system produa offense was at the uh ranked 91st awesome under grahe Harrow produced defense under Ryan Walters re wor uh the coach he's not the defensive coach how is that possible really the defense in uh Advanced stats was better uh significantly better in the offense and the end of the season helped those last three games the end of the season very very much helped usually in Walter's year or in Walter's tenure as defensive coordinator since um the last few years at missou and then his two years at Illinois usually it's the first two games of his first season I think first two or three games of his first season and then boom the team gets it but he is only focusing on the defense this year at Purdue he was focusing on the whole team I think it took him until what like two games in before he actually started calling the defense again yeah um and so he's like getting used to it you know you know being the head coach and the main defensive guy we know that there's defensive coordinator he's the main defensive coordinator in the second half of the Season it was dramatically better the advanced stats were dramatically better the yards allowed were dramatically better the third down efficiencies like allowed were dramatically better so that's great the question is whether Purdue takes the patented uh year 2 Ryan Walters jump so in his first year at Missouri um and actually it took at missou it took him three years under Barry odm he spent two years at 85th and 61st and then immediately jumped for his uh third and fourth years into the top 25 25th and 17 it's Illinois they were like second or first Illinois he took over and immediately they went went from 88 the year before to 32nd and then third so yeah it seems like Ryan Walters is a good defensive coordinator he's a very smart coach always amazes me you guys get incred like that a guy can just be like nope do it my way and you're suddenly better like it's and I know he's bringing in guys that he thinks fit his system but he he did it in year one right he made a difference during year one and and he did it let's let's be honest they were cobbling it together last year that's the thing it's crazy is how well they're playing with those final three games they I mean that was a skeleton crew on defense impressive that's so rather than where Purdue football uh conversations and season previews usually start which is under Center and the offense and everything like that which we will get to let's start with the defense because this defense seems to be pretty exciting it's headlined by I think an All-American like I don't know if he's been named a preseason All-American second team is he second team yeah thean is is going to be um like talked about among the best defensive players in the country he's the perfect avatar for Ryan Walter system usually the captain I mean still the captain's going to be the middle linebacker we don't know who do we know who's wearing the what do you think about the mustache by the way oh I love it you know me you know me he looks almost like a like a pirate yeah it's an unusual unemp mustache it is it's like it's like a a a March Madness mustache like like just it's growing and you're not allowed to touch anything to it yeah that's pretty bad um I think a bunch of NBA players did it when they were in the bubble Jimmy Butler had one which was oh my gosh like I don't know he's a genius by the way the more amazing um a dude but like so I don't know who's actually wearing so this is the first year that um they're allowed to wear the earpieces the players are allowed Jenkins is wearing it on defense so do we have it is it confirmed that Jenkins is wearing it that's awesome actually that's really cool um so he's going to definitely be a captain do we have confirmation that danman's going to be a captain too um cuz he's so so here's here's what we've got and this was just confirmed in the last five days was that um Purdue will not have full season Captain that's right and that's what they did last year too which is fine I mean like it it happens um and also that allows for injuries and kind of people to emerge and and take that so I like that I I'm looking at this defense I'm looking at the secondary like I really like this squad I love the obviously love the safeties I love the size of the quarterbacks um and the new additions uh that have come in Jenkins is a beast um held is probably gonna be really good I think I hope I think he's gonna be really good yeah but like um I don't know what do you think what are you thinking uh D Bo doubt about the defense like I'm I'm pretty excited about it I don't know if saw I'm most excited about for new football the creatives they put out kind of a a poster uh saying we're almost there right today and I don't know if you saw it Jenkins has a huge diamond uh I think it said j4 or say K4 K4 K4 yep okay pretty awesome but some swag there okay in the that team interesting thing I heard Nate be talking about this today on his podcast he was talking about the yeah shout out to your to your old buddy Nate bar who back from an evil evil land called Columbus but the thing that's really cool is Jenkins used to talk about he he loved the fact that he didn't have to think about playing defense and now all of a sudden he's the guy that's getting the signal and putting everybody in position that's a real big difference I would argue though based on what I understand about thean is that's going to be a two-man job is that thaman because he's so far ahead of everything because the way he thinks the game he's going to be directing traffic they're the they're both I mean the the two smartest players on the field I would say on either side of the ball uh for Purdue football I would like I would I love I Gus harwig is you're right you're right so he's like yeah the the three of them I would absolutely agree with heartwig you're right um to I wonder if it will stay um uh Jenkins I wonder if they do want to kind of unburden him like as he's going to be getting double team the whole season um again unless hell um comes up and so I there's got to be a guy on the other side and maybe it's uh cheetah oh cheetah Sila sheah Sila okay that's my that's my Dark Horse for being just an absolute Terror it'll be fun it'll be fun so supposedly according to Golden black and uh another another direct source who's watch practice the uh he's finally starting to get comfortable in the defense s imagine imagine Sila by the way I looked at he's he's listed imagine this guy rushing you he's 64 251 massive yeah blocking out the Sun and moving quickly at good thing every team wears brown pants against Purdue the the the pass rush is coming so you better be right I am I am really excited about this defense actually this is like playing a video game to be just Blitz every play Just Blitz Blitz Blitz just go crazy that's pretty much what they do and it's just coming from a different era area on the field and then the next question is can your Corners secondary y can they can they play manto man and this year they can I boy I you guys have if you guys have been listening to to my weekly talk for the summer it's just me talking about how much I believe in the cornerbacks and the I'll have to check that out yeah you should try show yeah yeah um and it's difficult to do that all summer I can tell you that's that's very hard um but I committed to it and we're done with it now so you're getting paid thank you thankfully there's a big huge boiled Sports Mansion thanks to that awesome but it was worth the experiment it was totally worth it and and I and I did I learned a little bit digging in deeper trying to find something but not much can I uh mention something I was looking at the depth chart U and I'm also excited here's something I'm less excited about did you guys happen to look at the depth chart and see who the number one punt returner is uh thean right thean I don't uh look at special teams because Purdue hasn't dealt with special teams in several oh but I can tell you my friend Anish let me tell you about something about special teams there is Reason for Hope there too there is Reason for Hope is it coach pelli patricelli yeah the dude is absolutely nuts which is what you want on your special team special teams coach so you so you go from you go from no special teams coach last year that's to this year you've got a certified lunatic that's what you want okay and he's doing things like firing tennis ball guns at guys returning punts hit them with pads in the head I love it I love all of it it's craziness and it's by the way they are getting focused on we still don't know who the place kicker is that's kicker is the kicker has me worried man I'm not gonna lie like that's the other thing on the Special Teams here's something you don't want to see it says special teams Hill or spener porath what there's an ore on the on the one and two rock paper scissors best of three it's all you need it's all you need so does you guys take it for the same thing that I do that that's reason to be concerned or man they're both kicking so damn they're both kicking so damn well that so good I can't choose a number one I can't choose they're so delicious do you want tiu or a chocolate Tor I heard you try to spin that on the quick pretzel bites or or the mac and cheese bites exactly a good question you got to order both I mean like you do get both and that's what they're doing on the special I don't think I don't think it is uh you know because they they don't know which one maybe a mcdonal McDonald's menu I like you're just looking at it Taco Bell menu and you're just like gosh it's already 2:30 I haven't eat lunch oh shot I got to eat something or I'm gonna pass out I hope it's not that I hope so too last year wasn't fun I just don't like them I was bringing that up because I I yeah I understand this I don't I don't need him getting hurt on a punt return correct especi just fair catch it every time screw it I don't care someone else back there some guy who's seemed anyone who can catch the ball how about that got Speedy receivers that don't turn it over that's all yeah I love I love I love the receiving core um and I would like to see one of them take that off I would much rather see one of them than the best player on the team yes oh the guys whose job it is to catch the ball yeah I think that makes sense I'm not concerned about him catching the ball I'm concerned about him getting de agree I'm saying you got guys on the roster who literally were recruited to catch the football so listen let's let's pretend Let's Pretend by the the way an you're going to appreciate this uh LBD sent me something today about um how Athletics and athletes are changing and the question was have we reached the human limits of athlet athletes and stuff and and and it pretty much says no it just says equipment is Advanced so far and it talked about basketball you've probably seen this it's it's awesome um but the one thing that I would look back is if we look back to the 90s this wouldn't be an unusual level right the best player on your team returning punts you'd be like yeah let's go let's put his head out there and he's going to get rocked cuz somebody's going to head hunt him and be like yep rub some dirt on it it's fine that's what idea yeah exactly got his Bell rung it's fine who hasn't had that fun time if they played football had their Bell rung get back out there sports man a lot of sports you get they didn't even look for concussions in other sports now now they're at least like oh he hit his head really hard with no helmet on who knew yeah who knew that your brain exists in sports other than football I am a head on the field playing soccer in high school and I'm sure was I actually think that SOC either it maybe the rate of them or something I was reading that in soccer like in women's soccer it is higher than well in in in the town that I live in in Central Indiana I can tell you because I've seen the stats that the most concussed sport is girls soccer yeah it's it's way above football so great it's fine it's fine of I am scared I'm scared of everything that has to do with special teams I don't like any of it it's not don't be afraid Embrace embrace the change and it's not the um the problem is that it's not changed it was bad last year um it the problem is that last year the kicking going to be great started the kicking started to influence the play calling so it like it started making everything a little bit more kind of conservative because it is like there there is no option um you know option there are so many things though that made it conservative and I am hoping that all of my bad mouthing of Graham herold's play calling um is is within a week or two I'm just like all gone all just a just a memory because I had a I had a a few list of like uh questions prep questions in the YouTube comments one of them is Will Graham heral uh I I'm not the right guy to ask this question am I because I still have a bad taste in my mouth so Jay again I think it got better like in like down the stretch again the Northwestern game Let's blot that from our memory uh but like the IU game it was nice it was fun it was nice to see Hy get aggressive if we're moving to offense it was nice to see points on the board it was nice to see the the player step up when it was needed again not in not in the middle quarters but it was good it was still good there was progress last year it got better we all talked about the fact that it got better and I I think you talked about about this in one of your quick casts um Hudson C they tried to kind of keep him protected it seemed and then weirdly kind of after he got banged up they were like all right Run free and and and the offense looked better and so I would say and last year was last year so it's a little bit faded for memory but I think things got better generally and that makes sense you get more comfortable you get more comfortable everybody gets comfortable in the system so I think it's fair to have some optimism about a gr hey can I ask you what least favorite moment of the season was last year this is funny this was just Unearthed for me in the last two weeks my least favorite moment of the season um you'll probably have something that I will agree with more but what comes immediately to mind was them losing to Northwestern okay that's a good one that's a good one because they should have won that game yes I would say being down 14-0 versus Nebraska I think they were down 14-0 like that one was such a splash of cold water on the face because I everybody felt like you could you could beat that team yeah oh yeah well and and that one was so hard because you're like oh man this is this season is not going to go the way we want it to and that was the biggest Benchmark of that the one that stuck with me all year and you talk about Oregon State being key early was the Fresno State loss yeah and so that's let that thing slip away you got fourth quarter Le it was exciting they did come back from being behind in the fourth so there was a lot to be like okay there this team can throw that was his first game I was card's first game it was Walter's first game it was at home great Vibes and they didn't win veteran veteran coach against guys coaching in his first game I mean like that but that's but that's how close that last season was that's how close we those two teams we just talked about the three teams two of those and you're a bow Team here's the other here's the flip side of that and all those teams are bow teams too that's that's the flip side of that is without the major rainstorm it is very possible that Virginia Tech you know would have beat Purdue I I think that would been a closer game than I think got close after I think they were a little bit of a mess Virginia Tech right I think they were I think they were Absol situation was at the right time no kidding because their quarterback was so much I kid never played again never play again and and what is it pry uh from for the old defensive coordinator at Penn State like he's got he's a good coach there were people talking about them as a sleeper ACC champ yeah I mean like they're a they're a good team and so to me like I think Purdue absolutely could have lost that game and if it was under normal circumstances and then the IU game was a coin flip was a razor edge game that's true here I am talking about how close they were to two more they were close to two or three more losses so it could a two- win season I mean like again like everything was how would you feel right now I mean two and 10 you wouldn't be able to talk to yourself into being but what what happened is we we hit the median like we hit the like probably the most you got two of them and you didn't get two of them exactly you you get of the toss-ups and so as we're going through this season and as people are calling for eight wins in God I love it there's somebody who gets into all the comments on any one of those YouTube videos and they're like eight wins it you first of all you look at this it's rated as one of the 10 toughest schedules in the country by everybody by there's not an exception and so it's it's tough and also like among that is like Oregon doesn't have to play Oregon so like it's going to they're not going to have as hard of a SK you know what I mean like they go down but still Purdue has to play Oregon Ohio State all these teams anyway um I think that so as you're as we're going through these thinking about the fact that hey there were four coin flip games last year and two of them went our way two of them didn't like I think and that using that to calculate well the most the most likely it because humans are bad at odds this is why Las Vegas exists and so it's like that is probably where um like the the prediction like the the range of winds prediction uh should come from so we can go we can go into it well wait we still have the offense to still kind of do sorry um we did it we did it we don't have a rule oh Minish has an agenda clearly well I mean to me what I do want to mention because I know we mentioned the wide receivers I think the best unit on the offense by far is the line I haven't said that about a Purdue team in 20 years I feel great about this line it's already be the depth of it is already being tested this week with probably a few dinged up injuries but like you you br has been an issue for ever yeah and Devon moab's uncle was on here earlier I don't know if you saw that he he kind of checked in and um nobody's happier about that than oh yeah I bet makab be in love nobody and I wonder I wonder if they are going to do a tandem running back but it's makab starting role but it's 1 a1b so they're split carries which very good not that different from last year with Tracy that worked so well like you went proof in the numbers yeah and and again it nobody has a problem with makabe being one and he but if there is a receiving I don't know how like what what love style is uh but if he's a receiving back like that'll be nice like he's a running back he he really doesn't he doesn't catch a ton out of the back field so I like making sure that that option exists but there are you know I know the Georgia guys again speaking of dinged up I know that CJ Smith I think is also dinged up but um I there are much more reliable pass catchers this year and so you're with the line though like I I don't know that has me comfortable and that has me feeling pretty decent about okay let me ask you guys let me ask you guys something because you've been driving the bus I appreciate it n but I want to ask you a question go on who's your surprise player on the offensive side of the ball who's the guy that that not everybody on the in the media is talking about not even in Purdue family that you just have a gut feeling you think this might be the guy I mean to me I actually can't believe it I so I don't know maybe people are talking about it I think Max CLA is going to have a huge I like yeah Max CLA the tight ends Bieber bber Bieber well if you go past Max CLA and you say the tight ends are going to be good that's that's a bold prediction because I mean Bieber is is a guy that he played well in the bow two years ago he played it well again versus IU but really his overall production hasn't been much because he hadn't played that much play and so you've got two guys that are Rel I mean they're very green but when given the opportunity both have just capitalized it I think I think Claire is not going to have a problem the times that we saw him his physicality M the times that he was healthy and we saw him his physicality he looks great too I mean like he looks like he's he he looks like a big 10 tight end and this one thing this is a recurring theme by the way uh produce strength and conditioning has done an excellent job what's the dude's name from Michigan he was um kind of Michigan assist oh um uh their strength and conditioning coach um uh I think his name is like small or something like that or tiny it is it it's small tremendous it's so good he looks like speaking of the two craziest people on the staff should be the SE special teams coach and the strength and condition the strength coaches are always the ones that are out there when it's like Subzero and a T-shirt and then headbutting Guys Without a helmet on like bloodying their D forehead right it's tremendous can I give you since you're talking about the offense an let me let me just chime in with a typical bullet Sports level um analysis here this is an old man comment whatever happened to wide receivers wearing numbers in the 80s why did that get so why is that so out of Vogue they're all wear 16 12 12 138 26 zero come on this isn't basketball what are we doing here it's like the allar you can do whatever you want in college football running backs still mainly wear running back numbers quarterbacks wear quarterback numbers line Mock's wearing 45 which is an unusual number for a non- fullback but it's still a maybe you should bring back the mik I saw a player at Georgia Tech with one of the M it that was aesome year it was amazing it was it was it was this week yeah it was incredible it was so good coach R small uh Ted berky small but but everybody's call him Coach row coach small he is he is a he is a fire hydrant of a dude he is constantly W wound up and he has absolutely earned his money this offseason the strength coach is obviously extremely important in modern college football but he has he has earned his dough look at those pictures and the videos out of camp and just tell me the guys that don't look like they're in the right place held looks crazy good I mean like he looks great huge he looks great he looks like he looks like you well I wish I really do wish maybe I should I can get coach row like to you know some side money to to Jack you know just to get me pumped let's go I I have a game for you guys I always come prepared to entertain you guys and um you mentioned and you you mentioned humans versus um the odds yes this is a little bit this is a good Segway from that I want to play a quick game I'm going to give you guys some teams and they're over under win totals set by Vegas and you're going to tell me over or under I have not looked at them this year so fun right I'm excited all right all right I got about a 10 or 12 we'll rattle through these okay Oregon 10 and a half such a good line I mean so perfect i' I'd go up are they are we regular season Poston regular season is out I could see so that would mean 11 one or 12 and0 they're gonna lose they could lose to Ohio State and they could lose to Purdue what no that's what if they lo I think they're back to back so let me tell you they're not gonna lose they're not gonna lose back to back I think I would agree with that I said yeah I said Jack and I were talking about that about the Oregon Purdue game and I said no you want them to beat Ohio State yep AB you want them to be riding high and that's that's one everybody's uh phone with all the highlights and all the interviews this is the AR again I don't believe it I I I want to say I am against this but this is the argument for the super league right because it's like then you every week you get Oregon Ohio State but you don't anymore in each because they're not all going to be 10 and0 no but you get Brands you get the brands like that brand suck the brands I mean like basketball's a brand in their mind Nebraska's a brand Nebraska's a brand Notre Dame's a brand come on it's not the same Oregon Ohio state is going to be one of the best regular season games a let's go Ohio State Ohio State is also 10 and a half 10 and a half I would take Oregon over Ohio State under yeah so Ohio State under yeah 10 and two or less 10 and two exactly okay 10 and two 11 and one yep I say I say 12 and0 11 and one so you're going over both over both yeah CU that because they meet in the championship game are for you or like the final four for you y yep right and that doesn't affect this so okay Notre Dame 10 under under I love you know I love him again our bias is through nine wins we a disappointment this year for them my hatred for Notre Dame has faded again with all of our favorite coaches at Notre Dame it's disgusting it won't take much to stoke it I'm telling you uh it's it's seeing that damn leprechaun on TV it won't be the coaches any of the top three of their coaches like we love them they're Purdue people it's a it's disgusting all right next one Texas coach Sark 10 and a half in the SEC wow again that's that's the hardest one for me yet because Texas is going to be good but I think that 10 and two 10 and two nine and three is much more you got to go under on that there's no way they're winning 11 in their first year in the I kind of I kind of feel I feel some Texas Mojo you going over I think I go over wow I'm writing these down okay see I think Bama I think Bama's gonna struggle this year yeah probably I mean so so you so then you've got Georgia and you have to have one other L to me like unfortunately LSU is has you proved to us really in the last couple years Fair good question uh Old Miss is the other one I mean like that's the that's the sleeper that's the secc sleeper to me I mean like I put them in my you know my imaginary Championship uh tournament I mean I I think om this could be very very good I that offense is going to be really good I think they finally got um and the powder blues Man I mean that's where I love I love them yeah for can't in Powder Blues right that would be ridiculous yeah the next one I have on my list uh Michigan the over under is set for nine whoa that's a that's tough that's hard because I think they're gonna be yeah I think I think Michigan I think Michigan could come derailed and get seven or eight this year yeah I agree that's I'm right there with you okay I you've talked me into it under but I don't feel great about it it's it's not a half so you can go right on exactly so you could I you could bet you could say push yeah that that means you're picking an exact number eight eight sounds I would have a hard time seeing them under eight but like I I think eight is more likely yeah okay here's one everybody loves Iowa you know what they're set for this year this is so annoying because it's perfect is eight give me the over over give me the over wow it's all I would it annoys me I hate them bastards they'll they'll win 10 games it's it it is well and maybe with an actual college football coach as their offensive coordinator maybe they'll actually take a step well maybe ference gets uh suspended for the entire entire year who knows right there's there still chance must put up a ton of points in them be perfectly Iowa just to piss off a niche they've got this Dynamic offense all a sudden for the season all right you're both over I got you Greg over too oh yeah okay Brain Trust was great Texas A&M eight and a half so hard so hard Vegas knows I mean they bought a lot of talent this off season they did including our own yes I'm gonna say eight wins I'll say under I miss I miss him so much man oh you won't for long you won't for long I know carel big will from caramel's gonna gonna I know I know um you you said the over he said under I said under I was actually no wow what did I say for what did I say for Texas I ended up Texas under you under and I said over for Texas and under yeah so I'll I'll flip like I'll flip it so I will go I will go over for A&M and I'll say you're only saying nine Nine's not crazy with all the talent and and that's a rebound and it's still a let down but the bottom that means that for me the top of the the bottom of the SEC has to be real bad because I'm picking a pretty heavy top you know I think it's possible for that to happen um Louisville uh oh over eight and a half half over yeah disgusting I agree you agree yeah yeah eight and a half seems like a such an easy Mark for them this year uh okay here's here's one that I may have to w 11 games Jay they did last year I went 10 last year and then the right 10 plus the bulll yeah Nebraska seven and a half here's your over here's your over or dad over give them eight wins I I will also say over because I you for sure in fact I may or may not have already put money on that that you know what that n stands for toughness nope I remember oh nope okay yeah that's um Colorado and Dion under under under under under under sell sell they're in deep trouble they're in trouble it's just gonna get worse a low number I know I can't believe affle is still on that I I think yeah they sell insurance of course they are you read about that that craziness that's happening in the locker rooms with recruits man that it's it's it's a mad house there I don't know if you saw what breed love said they said if you could he go like I don't want to talk a lot about what happened at Colorado but by the way and and then they said so give us one difference he said less cameras yeah I mean that's like having to deal with that circus week in week out there are very few human human beings that can do that and they they wilted under that pressure Lash year now his sons might be used to it because they grew up in it but those other kids aren't and especially at a program like Colorado again if you took A&M if you took the U like if you're at these kind of programs that are used to it absolutely but at Colorado man give me that under wow I I thought you might have be more conflicted there but I agree I'm under on that too okay I got two more on my list and I can look up anything else you're IU five and a half under coach Sig taking a big drag I agree under four and a half or five and a half five and a half yeah under no Bowl right yeah that's what I thought and the last one on my list and I can certainly look up more if you're interested but Purdue four and a half so hard so hard over well let's just a half over just a half over I did it already I've done it like 15 times let's go let's go through it I feel good about my five wins let's we might as well play the schedule game now so perf close out with Indiana State you got to you've got to we can't have darl I sure hope we're not by the way Jay this is funny cuz you mentioned the the Purdue fans in comments section saying eight wins eight wins eight wins boiled sports fans are not those fans no under under under under we have Cur say that about oh there's an over there's a big over says six and six the noodle says over okay so maybe they were talking about they were talking about I so here's they're the eight wins people our people are the eight wins people here's what we're going to do we're going to chalk up wins as one if you're on the fence actually put a half game on there you can put your bid on there but this is how you do this and then if it's a loss do a are you tracking sure um I just want to make sure I'm not on point because if we don't have a note taker then how this meeting goes off the rail I can't do it in my head that's for darn that's exactly all right Indiana State Indiana State win you would you would have to say usess win yep yes useless not useless every win matters right uh the by we is number two so you would you would train is rolling undefeated Afters get all fixed up after a week of a game against Indiana State you heard what the coach says yeah I was gonna say it wasn't he thankful for it this year he says he thanks thanks Jesus for it thanks God for it that's always good to hear with the preseason it's fine got a little nicked up got couple couple skilled guys getting nicked up that's in the comments Jason ringer says hands on desk I am an eight- win Purdue person I love you you're insane you are insane and we love that you're here I will send you all the boil Sports swag I still have in my basement if Purdue wins oh my gosh that's a hall Jay's sitting on some gear I can tell you that much so all right Notre Dame September so home versus Notre Dame what are we thinking I am thinking no I I've got no on that too I think it's a no but I think it could be so fun in there at least for a half I think you want a half you want a half for that one no no no no no no I'm picking loss but I think gosh wouldn't you just love to put a scare into them at minimum just have it make R fun for the day like absolutely it will be fun it will be fun regardless absolutely um 330 kickoff right that be fun yeah then they go all the way across the country to Oregon State to cor Coralis is where they are correct that's that's my PIV uh so we're going three wins here I'm I'm gonna put you're going win too I'm gonna go a half I'm putting a half I think that's fair that I think it's good to have a swing Justice here who thinks Keeps Us in check however organ state is falling apart more than I think even people realize yeah like they lost a lot and talent coach like nobody guys guys guys fled and I don't blame them people fled flee from good some programs on the rise as we know as we know as we know so I think that's you got to win that game to your point that is a pivotal game it's not a bad thesis that if you lose that one you got to pick up one somewhere else that you did not think you were gonna get so but I have that IU game was a great game to end the season on but I want to see some consistency and so I am not there yet Nebraska at home Homecoming in Ross a stadium nobody into Ross a I agree with you I'm it down for half I'll go half so we're all in syn WoW making me pick you make me pick I pick a win but he said I can go half so I'm going uh Wisconsin at Camp Rand H win one three chisel that into stone Sharpie loss the only Sharpie loss prove me wrong prove me wrong football program left right there's not another program that you Sharpie Purdue to a loss anymore y y none yeah bad it's bad it happens it's worse than Michigan for me it's worse than Ohio State yeah absolutely worse than Ohio State Pur beats AIO State on the regular I got I got an 18-year-old son that's never seen Pur beat Wisconsin he will uh this year though tell him to make the trip that's right make it happen that's right I've already to madtown I've already put our answers for at Illinois uh down put us down for three ones garol we we oh meanwhile the next week I've also put us down because Oregon this is where we talk about um Oregon and [Music] rosade so so my son keeps keeps saying to me I know everywhere I look he's like people are saying Oregon has to be careful of Purdue and on to be known for that knows which means for sure Dan Lanning knows for sure can I do it can I do a quick aside too and I keep reminding friends of mine that aren't Purdue fans that was not coach Walters the old Purdue winning at night versus top three ranked teams that was not coach Walters we need to see coach Walt build that reputation this is a different program I don't mean to I know Purdue there's there's magic in the in Ross a I understand that but I want to see coach Walter prove it to me may not have been able to beat Ruckers but he could beat you if he was he was top three team he was a beast he was a beast he he built that chip on those guys shoulders he had all of them ready to just kill somebody so against alter some some yeah if there was unless there was wind or rain and then his Nemesis exactly absolutely so uh three zeros three donuts for or um Northwestern a Revenge game in Ross a stadium I think will pound the [ __ ] out of Northwestern I love your confidence okay I'm gonna put that sorry sorry I think k i I'm not I think I think Northwestern this man Adam be says I think Northwestern had their uh their Jason R says nobody comes into Ross nobody comes into Ros and so put me down for a one we already got our one Northwestern out of the way but uh I'm not going I'm not going to ever tell somebody not to be optimistic I love I love hearing I want to just I don't want to lose this one on the right side manically Steve says Purdue has a better record against Ohio St over the last 10 years than any other program don't fact check this so I know he's being funny but I aside from Michigan aside Michigan's got a better record they beat him four in a row but I think puru over the last 10 years got three sa Michigan they do but but nobody else has that many nobody's beating Ryan except ask Penn State about that I was going to say Penn State is uh well we're coming up here so uh speaking of we so uh bo out of putting you down for a half against Northwestern a nice tasty half very good uh Ohio state is next it is uh horseshoe and uh put me down for donut donut I'll take donut an inperson donut the rumor in person donuts oh a dozen give me a dozen you guys got to sell that to me by the way I can tell you I can be sold but I'm not you you heard my argument already oh I predicted your argument I knew exactly you going to still have you guys seen a loss there n no I've never been I've never been at the no it is not fun because I can tell you like here here let me just tell you something if you go to a Notre Dame game okay and you interact with alums they're not bad Notre Dame notame excellent Excell Michigan has some fans even though they're snotty they got some fans that are all right Ohio State fans grad or not suck yes I know and they are going to be extremely drunk I heard they don't really fill up that Stadium really well no no there won't be a lot of them there no I think there would be a big Purdue and ding so that'll be fine uh speaking of uh the friendly foes Penn State coming to Ross a stadium um it's not out of the realm but I put that for me I put this at a z that's a zero that's a zero yeah we don't have to say zero we can say loss let's say loss nope zero chance we're doing points that's right we're doing we're doing points yeah yeah over under right one uh so far the only but if I was gonna take if I was gonna take one that I think Purdue could steal that's my steal game yeah I I don't hate that I just it's one of those things like until I've seen it happen I don't know if we can I think I don't see Anthony Chambers walking through that door right now the only I mean the best by the way that's the best reference I've had in the long time I hope someone out there appreciates that this is not an original thought but Penn State being destined James Franklin and Penn State being destined to be the first home loss in college football playoff history is like it would be just so perfect so I think they would have to have a successful regular season for that to happen so that would be great um let's go to Michigan State at Spartan Stadium theying they're bad they're bad and they're trying to rebuild culture I see it's a one give me one oh I I give you a half I also say half look at that and then the Indiana figh and hooers Coach Sig at Memorial Stadium his his first bucket game uh give us Unos I don't like the not aever I've seen I enjoy having a IU coach that I can just viciously hate right now he oh he's goingon to be great for that he's so arrogant he is UN unwarranted unwarranted arrogant no do you know he's got awesome James Madison players great ex brought a lot of good Jam that's just like big 10 football he told me when they were told they weren't going to be good they won really a whole bunch of games at James Madison same I like how same conference is the same and even talks about his play see the other thing though is that if you are the kind of um the you know the rally the troops kind of it's us against the world but really he's doing this to his players too he's telling his players they suck then going no he's actually kind of berating that like he's doing the Bobby Knight thing and he's doing the rally the troops work both sides yeah so it's like this doesn't work you're just an a-hole everywhere oh I feels so good when Notre Dame has only likable coaches that I just sense you know and Woody I don't hate Woody like I actually think Woody is fine and so it's just good to have but but like the thing with cetti is that like I think we've all feared that something like Notre Dame is going to happen where a school you really don't like hires a guy you do like and you're like he's good he's gonna be good I don't feel that way with this isn't a hire where I'm like oh no this guy's gonna change everything I don't feel I feel right like no I think they made a decent hire I think they got attractive name I think again if if Purdue have ended up with so here's the test is that if Purdue would have ended up with their coach would I have been okay with it or not I probably would have been on the fence because it's like yeah he's an offensive guy and all of this but it's like the personality to me doesn't fit but like for the kind of coach that I like um and isn't it great isn't that's it doesn't fit at all and it's so great how poor of a fit it is I don't think it will work out well I think we will have three seasons of this and kind of like what's his face uh uh um basketball at Michigan um Dusty May oh Dusty oh is different yeah it's still not a great fit but he's reserved and like yeah exactly but I think it's it just gives me that Vibe where it's like this doesn't to me I I I could actually see IU because he's that rah rah guy I could see them having one kind of lightning strike season and then all of a sudden like there's no I haven't tried the ra coach route before have they oh no they did just try that for four or five years yeah but it was a different Rah it was a different brand of rra it was a different rra yeah R leading them in in Barber Shop quartet singings of the fight yeah that was weird somehow he aged like 15 years between whatever ears three and four or whatever it was my gosh but like Tom Allen was many things hatable is not one of them it wasn't it wasn't fun to hate Tom Allen it was like he seemed like a good dude which is a bummer like that's now who's he he's a Penn State now he's D defens yeah he's a great you get to see him coming to Ross a and see what it's like to win no I think he actually did win in Ross now that I think about it yeah but don't let pretend he didn't don't let F ruin where we at on this you still have because you wanted to play this game I I got I got to Indiana at a one too so uh I regret to inform you J Money and boiler Dow you've both picked six wins for our new boiler maker six wins because the half wins get us half wins add up I am at five and a half okay you act like we you're a half game different dude so the problem with the real world version of that is is is not that I don't think Purdue is good I mean I think that I think they're going to be vastly improved from I I have been consistent on that but finding that six win I'm telling you you have to steal one you got to steal one and I don't know who the Steal feeling comes from doesn't matter doesn't matter true doesn't matter name and the rest is yeah I'll tell you what can you goodness three and0 for me would be just oh my gosh I mean to me this you have to build on a like you have to build on a foundation of four wins for something like a six win season to happen you have to have four wins that you feel really good about and on this schedule unfortunately you don't um Indiana State and Indiana to book in the season are probably the two team the two games you feel decent what do you mean feel good about good chance or locks like what are you trying to to me I would you to get to that confident six which I don't think any of us are no um like I I you would have to have these locks that you feel good because if not I the locks that we currently have are Illinois Indiana State and Indiana now and two of those are on the road which is a weird way to talk about locks and Indiana that's so difficult that's IND is more of like a like we're not going to pick against them in Illinois we have that that will be a strong Purdue crowd I mean it's it's gonna be excellent the Purdue crowd will be excellent yesu you think what what if they have five wins who IU huge no if Pur has five going to IU it will be a huge be great that'd be great and so and Illinois is if there's one Speaking of the the kind of signature win which which Walters doesn't have yet the closest to a signature win is the thrashing of Illinois which came as everybody was predicting it and then it came through that was the one time last season where it was like everybody was saying that this guy was the brains of the operation right for B yeah but I don't think anybody thought they would throttle like that pummeled him so good it was so good and so that's the only reason why we have those three locks I would say those are three irrational locks okay let me let me let me throw it a different way to you and and are you talking about how you get to six or are you talking about how you get to five just how you build like to me okay well if I if I throw these games at you and say would you like like Indiana State Oregon State Nebraska Illinois Northwestern Michigan State Indiana those don't those sound insane I don't think they sound sounds doable it actually sounds I'm not saying it's gonna happen but that five or six that's six that's six because again it remember I keep forgetting this and we led the show with this there are 18 or whatever 16 18 teams in the Big 10 this year 18 teams in the Big 10 or whatever um and so when you say Purdue will finish 10th in the Big 10 that's a really that should be where our goal is I mean like it it feel it feels weird not a goal but like we should be aiming there and like to build as the yes exactly there you go so like the 10th best recruit like we should be aiming for the 10th best recruiting class in the pig 10 we should be I think they're going to do better than that I think that's showing that they're G he's going to Welter is better and this group is better forward if you have some signature wins and it's but it's so hard now because of how stacked the the helmets are in the Big 10 right but if you say Nebraska might struggle Michigan State might struggle Michigan might take a dip you know we don't play Michigan you know this year but it's like if you're talking about the meat of the middle of the Big 10 meanwhile Purdue is being picked 18th and I do think I don't think I don't no I don't think so but I don't think that's irrational it's kind of new coach under un you know young unproven against on some there they got to put somebody there but I have a problem with this I know there are a lot of people are say well you got to put somebody there and nobody was taking a shot at Purdue but they kind of are by elevating IU based on just she belief in in that I'm like sorry I don't I don't I don't think that's fair to put meanwhile everybody who talks about Purdue even those picking them to go three and nine acknowledge the they're going the right direction I've seen some analyses that say that say it's disappoint it sucks for Pur because the schedule's so tough they're going to be better but they might not have a better record right so you've even got people acknowledging that and putting IU above them which is the weird thing almost everybody acknowledges it it very exactly and I think but to still put I you above them if you're acknowledging that is like kind of weird that's the respect that Walters has in the media which is nice I mean like it seems like people do think that Walter is a break coach and like um would push back on you a little bit on that I think if there was respect for him they wouldn't be picking him to be last no but it I really do think it is just like a ha a young guy and this's is the hardest schedule in the Big 10 and yeah I think he's liked Anish but I don't think he's sure I I okay I can I can see this so that's why they're saying out it's a bummer uh they'll be better but they the winds might not you know you might not see it in the winds and by the way this is the argument also for Jeff Brum to say like let's Bounce from uh the 10 once it starts expanding again not that he knew but like to go to go to or to maybe not Jeff Brown because Louisville is Louisville and all these kind of things but like to bounce from a lower tier lower to mid- tier Big 10 team to a higher tier program in not one of the big who the one who who was the one who bounced out of um Wisconsin after like two years and went out west um talking Wisconsin's head coach um did he go out west um who was the one uh before Christ Christ is all I was thinking Bland face is what I was thinking yeah exactly doing now just sitting on a a big chair made of 50s with some ranch dressing next to him Jer Anderson Anderson thank you even has a blah name uh he went to Oregon State these are things that just leave in my head said he went out west see went to or St sense but you got to win again to see that to see that six win season you got to have a road win against Oregon State you know you can't slip up against Michigan State Northwestern Indiana Illinois like the it is okay Jay let me ask you Anish let me ask you which game's more difficult Nebraska or at Michigan State Nebraska okay okay which game is more difficult Nebraska or at Oregon State nebras probably Nebraska I agree I agree and that's why I had so little confidence in that one yeah you guys I mean like I was like man that doesn't feel good to me it doesn't feel good but it's I like it at home it would be fun I want I think I don't think I I wouldn't put that in that steel category though either that's yeah what it's kind of in between you're saying it's kind of in between it's I mean you're like we kind of needed to win that but if they don't win it you're like I see why they didn't win yes right like yeah EXA if you if you bump all of us down we all had a half game there if you bump all of us down I think that is probably closer to what we think about the Year you two would be at five and a half I would be at five yeah and so that's exactly that's so we're all over the Vegas number of four and a half though is the key and I don't honestly don't feel great about that um but I but again like I I am looking at the units when's Vegas ever right guys I know I'm looking at the units and I feel much better about them compared to last year Walters has a history you love looking at units though oh I'm Big Unit the greatest nickname in Sports is the big big un nothing has come close it's so good um especially considering his real name anyway um exactly that it's tremendous thank God for sports um I don't know I don't like the the uh offensive line is really great I love the defensive unit I am less confident about card and the wide receivers but there is room to grow there is reason for optimis my Hudson card that way I think Jay's all Jay's love it's not unrequited this year I think we I think we see it we see the Hudson card that Jay's always know in his heart doodle on my notebook oh he's so handsome man his jawline all J card J C so stupid so dumb so dumb how you know he wouldn't take my name and money Hudson money Huds and money either way you're going to wear how do you know exactly card money or money card oh money card money card that's actually awesome is right there that's awesome uh so Purdue going bowling this year and uh we're going and we're all going we're all going tickets we're all going to Manhattan going to Nash manhatt oh wait the Bronx right the Bronx is where Yankee Stadium is yeah that's where that's where we straight into a wall it'd be right here and yet I would be like I don't want to go I don't want to do it I'll go to I'll go make me do it I'll go to Jersey and watch it at your place I'm taate outside of the driveway I'll make the I'll make the trip but like yeah yeah all right well guys guys I got to tell you I think we've solved a lot tonight oh I I think this has been aot progress good meeting good meeting thanks to everybody soon thanks we'll get the notes out to everybody okay so I want everyone to to put it down pencil it into your planner the uh handsome hour will be Monday nights 9:00ish we were good about it last year we did every week last year no we're GNA be good about this week this year it's going to be good it's going to be good and um and I think my um weekly um gibberish will change it will change it will not be exactly the same and it'll be like one of those you know the shows we'll have like in credits and you know like it'll be like starring in Niche and then after all the other things it'll say special guest appearance by Michael Henry like every once in a while he shows up he just shows up exactly that little like credit that little billing like oh Michael making Guitar by the way now he's making guitars it's incredible he just keeps on he keeps on picking up these habits and he's pretty good at all of them it's infuriating I'm good Mally Steve uh mically Steve stole your line yeah it's too early okay but we're about to say it so gentlemen it's been fun uh ladies and gentlemen who joined us live been excellent thanks to uh Craig mcabe Uncle Craig for uh for getting there and uh by the way to answer a question yes Vinnie Southerland did return punts at Purdue and that's not even ancient history so you had a pretty Valuable Player back there returning punts I love you guys good night