LEAKED: Tim Ballard Smears Survivors, Gets FACT CHECKED into Oblivion

those children who will never be found and will have a life of is 100% Blood on the hands of Sasha matching up what he just said with at least what we have from the news articles and the reporting from the Mexican police oh no what does it say there at the bottom AI generated images and sometimes the most painful part of that healing is telling the damn truth Hello everybody welcome back to the Timmy did what podcast I'm Cara Burell and I'm Ryan fiser today we have a really special episode it's very near and dear to my heart because it deals with Tim smearing uh one of the women who put her life on the line to go on these missions to save sex traffic kids Tim then went on this last dispensations Channel made a video made an interview where he ranted about how this woman made it so they did not rescue as many kids as they did so I want to take you through a presentation that I have made about what Tim said versus what the truth is and let you get to know one of the victims from the lawsuit that put her name her face she's not just a nameless person who's just is accusing Tim of things she has a story that we're going to read and we're gonna talk about where Tim gets off thinking that he can smear this lovely woman Sasha yeah I'm excited to see what you have I haven't heard this uh story it's regards Sasha who who I don't know very well and just know her from what I've read in the lawsuit um but she's an important person in this whole Saga and has a really important story to tell so I'm excited to hear what you got like I mentioned in our previous episode that Tim was on last Sensations Channel and on the left is the original thumbnail and then the second one was oh I had to get taken down it's really important to actually put here on the internet what Tim was saying and smearing about these victims and if Tim is really believable to you bless you if he's uh when I get to the end of this and you say oh my gosh not only is Tim uh a gigantic fraud but also I cannot believe that he would use such disgusting language and smear these women in such a horrible manner I uh want to advocate for them please leave your comments below that you believe Sasha and you understand that Tim is a man who is losing because we have the facts and the truth on our side on the Timmy did wet podcast and if you're a victim of sexual assault yourself trigger warning I hope hopefully you have um all the resources you need for your mental health and your he healing and we don't want to ret traumatize anybody but it's important to lay out what actually is at staycare and what what actually happened thank you yeah I'm gonna play this clip of Tim and then we're GNA break it down but this operation man was especially it was probably the most dangerous one and it has to do with the lawsuit I can't get into like the specifics and give away tactics but there was only one possible way to find this trafficker and I I I used an actress we we used act on purpose and she was phenomenal in the operation um in fact we have her given the debrief on location luckily somebody filmed it where she's all excited because we identified the children all right does anything stand out to you on that I put up a few of Tim's claims I'll read them and then I want you to pay attention to some inconsistencies of what he is saying and conflating different stories and mixing different timelines also so that he can bludgeon Sasha as this one person who's coming against him and try to say that what I'm doing right now I did a great job on this operation we just finished and it was almost ruined by this person that I now have every right to say her name and smear her and Sasha was not on this operation she was an entire country away but somehow had a big impact on this I'm excited to see how he how he J starting with Tim's claims he says we're still in country we just finished a huge operation it's been about two and a half years in the making we just finished this been hiding out and now we're heading home point. one Tui says this latest operation was probably the most dangerous one and it had to do with the loss suit okay so is he's upping the atie to the the height of the most important of of I'm there right now it's dangerous and has to do with the lawsuit and third point there was a Mexican trafficker who could only be found using an actress and so he's talking about Sasha and he's talking about using her as a couple's ruse partner follow follow okay all right next clip okay two and a half years later she's pounding her fist her name her name's Sasha she revealed her name so I'll reveal it she counts this have to stop it was all fake so I could hold her hand because I just I want to hold her hand so much because she's so hot I just can't I had to go through this whole thing so I I always just have to pause there because of the cringe of the immaturity of like I feel like I'm talking to a bunch of like freshman in high school he just he just did a impression like he was a seventh grader I wanted to hold she wanted to hold my hand cuz she's so hot like that impression seriously is seventh grade so seventh grade she also is she also is pretty hot so uh you're and uh it gets worse though I'm Gonna Keep playing hold her hand you know so anyway this is the sad part of the operation it was the the good news is two traffickers arrested 14 kids pulled out the youngest was 12 think about that as a 12-y old think how young that is yeah um but here's here's sad part this was a major player in the cartel that's why this was very dangerous and there hooks into into Baja California into Cancun and the Mexicans were working this Cate for two and a half years right but she comes to and files lawsuit and reveals all the details okay she rals all the details and so so let me just pause you right there Ryan if you're paying attention to the timeline of this lawsuit that was filed last October with Sasha's story in it revealing all the detail supposedly I had experts to come say Tim you got to drop this case like this is way too dangerous but we had to we couldn't wait and rescue what probably would have been more like 50 kids if we if we if we had been able to finish the operation but we couldn't because all the details were out so we had to get in there before the trafficker happened upon you know the filing right so so those children you know and so have you had you seen that clip yet no I have not seen retion I I have no words honestly um he's saying that there's 40 kids 40 something 30 something kids that they could have rescued about 36 more kids if it wasn't for Sasha revealing things in the lawsuit 10 months ago I'm I'm actually I have no words for that that's that's not only like incredibly insensitive and inflammatory and offensive to them but it also just speaks to what he's describing is an operation that only he was there for and so there is no way for us to verify that that's true or not I don't know it just doesn't make any sense to me that there's 36 kids that are that are going to be raped for the rest of their lives now because of that lawsuit what's the connection there what did they reveal that stopped them from only saving 14 kids not the rest of them I mean in layman's terms oh wow big tough guy working with Mexican people Rambo went in cartels were GNA get you bad women bad Tim Balor good good good it's just a very desperate like transparent take from Tim Ballard where he doesn't know that other people who have critical thinking who are going to look at this with a more skeptical lens will put these pieces together and say no big man Tim Ballard is actually lit a little Timmy on his tricycle we're going to go through the actual articles of the raid you're speaking about that you posted he posted about Tim Ballard posted about this raid that he's speaking of and matching up what he just said with at least what we have from the news articles and the reporting from the Mexican police um I wouldn't put it past him to just look into the news in a city like you know somewhere in Mexico and say oh the police they busted let can can we post that and say that we had something to do with that yeah no one will know like we'll just post that we said hey we got 14 kids from my estimation I can't tell that oor had anything to do with this operation and we'll get into that in a second so might just be like him very conveniently using the people who are already being rescued from sexual exploitation to then exploit him for his own reasons that people need to shut up so that he can sexually exploit people you follow I follow all right so Tim's claims from this video because Sasha put her name to the claims of the lawsuit Tim is allowed to use her name to smear her this just happened right he said he's on it right now or just complete it so this would be an operation going through his spear fund not necessarily o are right and also he partners with aerial Recovery Group they have a video of Sasha on location he says excitedly testifying that they identified the children that they just rescued so again she hasn't worked for you are for at least over a year if not longer so he's talking about we just finished this operation that Where We rescued these kids we just got them pulled out it just hit like the Mexican news from these people just got arrested about last week but he doesn't I'm like Tim she didn't even work it was a year ago what are you talking what what was she on camera saying we got kids she hasn't worked for you for over a year and this operation just finished and these are 14 kids at this time and location there's not another 14 kids there's not another couple it's 14 kids in this one raid at a spa in Mexico in the last week she wasn't there so he says we have her on video being excited that we did it that didn't happen you're drunk you see what I mean see the video okay Mexican authorities have been working this case for two and a half years but Sasha revealed all the intel on this very dangerous case dealing with the cartels and Tim had to go rescue the kids before it was too late against his advisor's judgments and then he says that they could have rescued 50 kids instead of just 14 and those unsaved 36 kids therefore the lawyers for the women and Sasha are 100% responsible for the kids never being found and enduring a life of rape deny and deflect so this rid that he is talking about that he just finished that's been in the works for two and a half years that his advisers told him that this is too dangerous too much stuff has been leaked but he's just such a big strong strong tough guy and he's going to do it anyway what can you say Tim Ballard he just does the hard thing when it's required of him this raid according to all these Mexican articles that I could find on them I'm going to read the title for you and we're going to go through the article really quickly and then we're going to point out what the Mexican authorities say versus what Tim says about this raid this is taken directly from Tim Ballard uh 89 and Tim Ballard Tour on Instagram so he posted this and with the caption saying 14 12-year-old girls boys trapped in this child sexual exploitation Network have been rescued this operation has a very special meaning because it is the International Day against human trafficking coincidence in this way aerial recovery and Tim Ballard not only Mark a milestone in history but they also naked once again that these networks continue to expand in Latin America and the world we know that Tim Ballard speaks like fourth grade level Spanish because he served as mission in like Mexico or something so I'm going to read the title in my best fourth grade Spanish all right well done the article reads Federal authorities managed to free 14 victims of sexual exploitation in Puerto Vera among them minors so while Tim leads with uh we pulled out 14 a lot of them 12y olds just like young young young it's a scary as possible sex trafficking is already as scary as possible and Tim leads with the most horrifying version of it that you know makes him look like the superhero bad guy so while it is a real thing ACC you know this article proves that of course we are want him like we said in the last episode to do a good job and save children do not take credit for things and do not use fear tactics to pump up your numbers and your donors for things that just these kids have already been exploited they don't need your further exploitation so Attorney General's office announced that elements of the criminal investigation agency under the leadership of the federal public prosecutor's office of the specialized prosecution office for crimes of violence against women groups and vulnerable situations and human trafficking achieved the release of 14 alleged victims of the crime of human trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation including several minors and I know that was a lot of different organizations that all really participated in this anything missing that you know see the spear fund o or any of the other entities that Tim has started why isn't those I did translate it from Google translate and maybe it got mixed Lost in Translation wait there's more hold on let me keep reading the action also had support maybe he's in here the action also had support of the specialized prosecutor's office for regional control and after months investigation and intelligence work elements of the federal ministerial police located the property of the ortas neighborhood Ruth n was arrested and by virtue of the urgency of rescuing the victim's alleged leader of a network of human trafficking for sexual exploitation that operation mainly in said City so this is really heavy Google translate but uh anything else about o Tim Ballard's spear fund aerial Recovery Group seeing it there's a lot of people that are are mentioned as taking credit but nothing okay this woman alleged leader of the the network also known as Baby Ruth was dedicated to the sexual exploitation of women including minors whose network operated in for laara but is presumed that they may have presence in other states of our country the women disguised her criminal activity through spa services to contact National clients but especially foreign ones and once she achieved this she offered the young teenagers for sexual activities a teenager was also arrested at the aforementioned location who was also collaborating with the criminal activities um and so just then it goes on to talk about how there will be a trial while the everything else gets sorted out go ahead that photo is from the article huh I see law enforcement in there obviously they have some cuffs and guns I know Tim is not allowed to have guns so that's not a spear fund o Tim Ballard operative yeah obviously law enforcement involved in this the article mentions a lot of law enforcement agencies what a horrible thing I I'm I'm glad that there's institutions and stuff taking care of this problem when Tim Ballard looks at this he says how can I manipulate this for my gain how can I use this story of these exploited teenagers and take the credit take the credit and propose them to be much younger and a and a much different story and that how can I take advantage of the situation for uh the propping up of my ego so that when people accuse me of sex crimes I'm I did this though I couldn't be the sex crimes guy because I helped I helped do things and get people out of this situation yeah and honestly like Tim saving kids I'm absolutely an 100% support for I want him to save kids I want his foundations to save kids that would be great the more kids that are saved the better but if it didn't happen don't take credit for it show us that it did happen show us that your organization and yourself were involved and contributed something good because this is the article that he posted and he's not men anywhere in it I would think that if there's an article out there that uh his organization is mentioned he would post about that and maybe it's out there if it's out there please send it to us I would love to be proven wrong we be corrected we will be corrected and we'll we'll give you credit where credit is due um but given the history of exaggerated claims this doesn't help right and if you remember to the last episode where I was referencing that I wanted to do this segment go back to the last episode and Tim in the other clip We we played he says like I'm busier than ever we're rescuing more kids than ever I did 16 operations this month you know and it's like if this is the one that I've heard about this month we covered this pretty closely this is the one that I've seen that him post about on his on his personal Instagram page that he's taking credit for and there's no indication that he can even take credit for the one that he's talking about what are the chances that he's been doing 16 other operations both last month it just cast out and I wish it wasn't the case but so this is another another thing that uh he posted along with aerial Recovery Group that he works with so right off the bat what do you see Ryan those are very well-lit photos those are very that studio Lighting on every one of those photos they must have set up oh no was it say there at the bottom AI generated images to protect the identity of survivors so I'm going to call straight up Timmy did what this is a BS don't even give me this is about protecting the identity of survivors when that's the last thing that Tim has ever cared about when he goes into these brothel and cameras and kids faces grasping for straws to take credit for something that he probably had nothing to do with and then to really drive the point home get as many type in uh 12-year-old girls who look sad and Mexican what is interesting to me is in creating this graphic that somebody had to go to the AI sof AI software and type in prompts and what I'm seeing is they must have typed in brown skinned Mexican girls age 12 sad traumatized hold on let me pause you the girl in the center I know what a little that that girl is a six-year-old that's not even a 12-year looking girl continue they wanted to they wanted to pull the heartstrings so bad they mixed it up with all kinds of maybe 14 maybe six but continue your point yeah yeah somebody typed in all these prompts to get the image that they wanted to represent the people the the girls that they saved and at some point whoever was typing in these prompts did they think this is what we want this is like marketing yeah maybe we shouldn't do this because it's not this is what it is yeah what it is it's girls who are much older have been through puberty I'm sure have horrible lives of rape nonetheless I'm not discounting any of that but this is this is the marketing versus what the reality is that photo that you had there from the article hits harder that's tragic because those are actual real people people real girls I know when you see them in like the you just see their that girl in the black with the high heels like that's that actually do those are real people as are real people that are traumatized and their faces blurred for obvious reasons um that is tragic and sad especially with that officer staying right behind them that he had to save them in this situation then you go to the AI generated image and it's fake it's it's a fake image and so it makes like disconnect it makes me disconnect and be like well what else in this story is fake after years of Relentless effort our operators their operators their operators have successfully rescued 14 victims of sex trafficking in a coordinated operation with law enforcement this Victory comes as two traffickers have been apprehended marking a significant milestone in our ongoing fight against the Despicable crime stay tuned for updates we are so proud that we are able to celebrate the freedom of 14 very young girls rescued from the clutches of trafficking so you have to predict their identities I get that but don't use a fake image don't use it's again doesn't let credibility to the whole cause and it's it it makes you look like smoking mirrors so put that piece together with everything that I've already told you about Tim of what he's purported he's just finished wrapping up in Mexico and then who's to blame for this image not having 50 kids in it and it's all Sasha and the lawyer faults okay that's his point all right so Tim's claims versus the truth that he just finished a large and dangerous operation dealing with the cartels that's been in the works for two and a half years where the traffickers could only be found using the couple's RS and an actress more kids could have been rescued from trafficking if it wasn't for Sasha in the lawsuit revealing Intel that the traffickers mayor may not have become aware of and the truth is that me Mexican authorities just finished an operation that's been in the works for months not years no evidence that o aerial recovery the spear fund Tim Ballard or the use of Sasha as a couple R partner played a role in recovering any kids during this raid in Mexico second point no indication those arrested are linked to Mexican cartels or that the lawsuit filed in Fall of 2023 affected the outcome or that there were more children who could have been saved during this raid carried out by Mexican authorities if it weren't for the lawsuit that is Tim's claims on last dispensation on a video that needed to get taken down for obvious reasons because the truth is not uh in Tim Ballard's favor on this well let me add to this so the kids weren't saved because some cover was blown by a lawsuit filed in Utah and we all know that the cartels they love reading court documents from Utah and it had nothing to do with the multi-million do worldwide film called sound of Freedom that didn't blow the cover that wasn't that had nothing I mean that had nothing to do with blowing cover it was the Obscure court documents in Utah like all right and I got to wrap this kind of Point all up I got another video of Tim I'm gonna let him explain what he's up to hey guys uh we are just bailing out of a country right now out of Mexico uh as you know we have a border crisis which means all these kids I've been talking about it at the RNC and other places they're being trafficked into the United States so what we've been doing at aerial recovery is going for deploying into Mexico and rescuing them with the Mexican police before they can get into our country we're basically rescuing them from our own administration's policies which are facilitating trafficking um I'm very very very happy to report that we just rescued 14 kids we don't have all their names or information but the majority were 12 years old thinking about that think of 12 old you know we just got them out so much to say already just GNA start there and move backwards he starts with the majority of them were 12 years old no indication whatsoever from the article that if it starts off with saying there were you know people pulled out of sex trafficking comma among them minors and Tim's statement about it is most of them were 12 years old yeah that'd be nice to verify what's so blatant in this video is um he is taking a political message there you go he is going he's using his platform and his claims which we can't verify we have found no verification that any of them are true that um that it has to do with a border crisis so he can take shots at the current Administration he can pick up the Trump border crisis talk points he even mentioned he even says there I was just talking about this at the RNC so he just reveals to us motivations why he's spinning this into his own political purposes very transparent yeah he's seeking a political appointment in the Trump Administration if Trump wins and to do that he's pandering to all the Trump talking points about crisis at the border and that he's he's the good guy trying to solve it right perfectly said well stated and also there's no indication from the article that these these young girls and I guess there might have been some boys too that these trafficking victims were anywhere near the border on the way to the border on the way to be trafficked into America for sex trafficking for any other trafficking reason he just throws that in there like these were like basically sex slaves and uh who were working at a spa by a woman who had then offered these other favors to her clients I don't see any indication that they were being trafficked by cartels that they were being exchanged that they were being moved into the country no indication of that whatsoever yeah I mean we're trying to verify Tim's story I I mean really if there's something out there please send it to us we can't verify any of these claims whatsoever but what it looks like is just a political stab in the dark so so they didn't cross the border they're going to be safe here in Mexico and a safe house where I take care of them more information is on its way but we are H we are speeding to the airport right now because we have probably been compromised and pray that we get out safe I won't post this until we're actually safe so don't think I'm dumb but I want you to get it while it's happening all right hold your jokes folks but don't need to think I'm dumb um I just I like to see through his BS and like I can see the wheels turning in his head just like you said you can see how he's you know spinning his proposition to cater to a certain audience and then also like I think we just been compromised whoa was that like gunfire over my head Timmy Rambo is here to save the day yeah and this is sounds a lot like the story that he started o with um if you I was around at fundraisers when he told his founder story about a kid that was being trafficked across the border and he shows up on scene and the kid runs up into his arms and he he's like Papa or something says something to Tim runs up he Scoops up up in the arms and he's like oh my gosh we saved this kid from being trafficked and I dedicated my life at that point to um fighting human trafficking and stuff um some great reporting has been done I wish I had um the source is right on hand but you can uh Google search this um the sto that story is full of holes and the reality couldn't be different Tim showed up um 40 minutes after the kid was taken into custody you're so lucky I have it right here you do yeah oh was that part of your presentation no it wasn't but I just know where it is per the assistant us attorney of the Buchanan case that is the Buchanan is the guy who held like this young little boy as a legitimate you know victim of his so Buchanan is a really bad guy Tim just inserted himself that he was the one who help saved him on the border Senor serado so Ballard filed a report which clearly states that ice agents did not interview the boy victim Serrano continues any assertion stating otherwise is incorrect Ballard was an ice agent on the case so this just basically is Tim has always said one story about how he went out and he bought him a burger and he gave him that necklace and he has the whole founder story it's part of the sound of Freedom movie I've heard him say that speech over and over again all of that stuff not only just didn't happen and it's a lot of different story lines mixing together these documents prove that he never was alone with the boy to ever interview him or have a conversation to buy him a burger to get the necklace this it Al so stating there that the man that trafficked him was his grandfather by no it was actually his the boy lived with his grandma and banan Earl Buchanan was his landlord landlord okay but the the boy was turned over to him by the grandma and who then he then exploited the kid it wasn't Tim portrays it as um these bad men come across the border and kidnapping snatching up children and taking them back to for for exploitation right like he he sometimes tells the story he's tell it a couple different ways the true story is yeah he lived in like San Bernardino with his grandma and his older sister and Buchanan would take him in his van down to Mexico to go visit like Buchanan's family and this boy was literally molested and had horrible things done to him and given drugs to fall asleep and he had like a whole toy room set up for him and there's vide tapes and stuff so that part of it is true however Tim has inserted himself into that story and said a couple different things that either the boy was from Mexico and he was being like smuggled into the America like into America to be a sex slave or vice versa that he was smuggled down to Mexico for these sex parties and stuff neither of those are even true that this little boy he did have a devastatingly horrible life of rape it just had nothing to do with like American Border policies and yeah so people at the at the border did stop them and discover that this boy didn't have his ID on him and there's no reason why this man should be with this boy they investigated they started to notice that like he had some videotapes Tim has always inserted himself that he watched the videotapes and that he was like oh this videotape of this man raping this boy that's the boy that's outside right now these uh files indicate that there Tim was no had nothing to do with the story and we've been trying for a long time to get his like former co-workers and stuff the people who were there day when yanan was arrested to say what exactly happened and this is the best that we we have right now is that reports of the interview of Jose by Ice agents defendant insists that ice agents interviewed the 5-year-old boy who accompanied defendant at the Cal lexico Port of Entry on July 3rd 2006 in support of his claims he attached a portion of a report from the San berardino Sheriff's Department indicating that ice agents cared for the boy however he fails to acknowledge a report of Investigation written by the ice agent involved in this case Tim Ballard about the night of offense which clearly states that ice agents did not interview Jose and referred him to Imperial County Child Protective Services in accordance with uh agency policy the government can't produce what doesn't exist and again Tim has said that he personally took him out of that facility to go interview him and take him out for a hamburger that's kind of like depicted in the sound of Freedom yeah and there anybody who knows how like child productive services in law enforcement a boy who just came out of such a devastating situation is not going to be let loose to any old ice agent just to go hey you want to go out for a burger and hang out alone like the procedures and protocol anybody who knows what they're talking about inside government agencies would laugh at that that situation being allowed but that's Tim talking to people who don't know like yeah that's a believable cute story of how I bonded with this boy yeah and what's kind of disgusting is that it's seems painfully obvious that his comments about the Border calling out the current Administration talking about the Border crisis from a trump perspective he's using that situation and the 14 kids for his own political gain like that's just so painfully obvious and if that's where his head is while he's supposedly racing to the airport to escape drug cartels that are hunting him down trying to kill him he like oh wait wait wait let me let me let me talk about uh the Border crisis and and why I'm I'm the guy to solve it and uh and Trump are you listening are you listening yeah really that's where your heads at all right Ryan so bringing this all back around I am in this first and foremost so that Tim cannot get away with smearing these victims because we didn't rescue the rest of these kids at this raid the blood is on the hands 100% of uh the lawyers and of Sasha so I want to read and finish this off with a little bit of who Asha is and to counterbalance what she has been through at the hands of Tim Ballard and this couple's ruse what she was manipulated spiritually physically into doing all to save the kids and then how Tim talks about her now okay and we need to put a trigger warning before this right yeah because this is this is hard stuff yeah but I think it's important to read anytime I can just read their direct words from the lawsuit I think it really hits it home about what they've been through if you're not able to get your hands on it I will leave a link down to the full lawsuit so you can read through them yourself as well I think it's an important piece to really internalize what these women have been through Sasha hi Tower goes by WW in the lawsuits she's an actress and a rape Survivor herself before she even went into o accusations against Tim Ballard a couple highlights include caressed my inner thigh stroked my neck grabbed my butt hand quite close to my groin undressed by escort while he watched groped in crotch by escort while he watched groomed to kiss his neck thought I would be raped by female trafficker while he watched rolled on top of him while topless an effort to prevent assault by escort so if you remember back to what Tim said is that she's she's so hot and that she wants millions of dollars is what he's saying because I touched her thigh and he's like I probably did because we're riding around in taxis that are owned by the cartels and so he's also completely misrepresenting to audience is like last dispensations Channel what the women are even alleging shall I go on yeah deny and deflect deny any wrongdoing and deflect the blame to her I'm GNA read a little bit of her story on this is how it kind of started on April 19th 2021 uh I'll replace ww with Sasha on April 19th 2021 Sasha reached out to Ballard via Instagram because he was dating a man that she thought might be involved in trafficking April 20th 2021 Ballard responded via Instagram invited Sasha to his office in Lehi to discuss her concerns as Sasha came to Ballard's office she perceived that o employees were suspicious and leery of her and then Ryan what do you think happened next I think she probably uh was targeted for an audition you would be correct Ballard then said he noticed from ww's Instagram profile that she was an actor Ballard asked if Sasha had considered going undercover Sasha answered no but but that she definitely consider it Ballard had Sasha sign an NDA and told Sasha how important it was that she never speak a word to anyone not even friends or boyfriends because people's lives were on the line he further explained go ahead that's like such a red flag and I I don't blame Sasha because nobody knows how this undercover anti-human trafficking work works but what a great tool for a groomer to have like I just met you I want to talk with you more about this NDA boom and once you sign that then they have leverage over and control over who you talk to and what you say under threats I I mean that is like such a great tool if you're a groomer and if you're a predator and also like we've talked about putting it on the Forefront what would you do to save kids yeah so you questioning me you're not signing this I guess your heart's not really in it I can go find somebody else down the street you know I don't know why ndas are like even part of any of this yeah they really shouldn't be it it's if you feel the need to legally keep people silent there's a problem there if you don't want what when people work for you or they have relationships with you in any way being talked about publicly you should probably have better behavior um and so under the guise that it's about people's lives being on the line this is about saving kids he explained further the gravity and severity of what was at stake in order to protect women and children and the Ops Sasha was not given a copy of this NDA Ballard then proceeded to tell Sasha that female operators are crucial to OU's work Ballard told Sasha about a tactic they used called the coup's ruse Ballard explained that they were running into problems on operations when male operators did not engage in sex acts and he said that if male operators don't touch the women or children the traffickers would figure out that it was a sting and would create danger for all Balor told Sasha how the couple's ruse came to him by Revelation from God as there was no way he could have thought up such a br brilliant ruse Ballard then told Sasha that if she could act like the jealous girlfriend then she could block for Ballard and Ballard would block for her Ballard explained that Sasha would was like the [ __ ] blocker Ballard expounded by saying that he would take women into couples massage parlor or strip clubs and act as a sinky kinky couple ready to do sexual and deviant things but that there would be no kissing and no touching genitals except for his arms around the woman's waist maybe on your back pocket Etc and that it would be super safe because there would be a team around the corner watching everyone's safety Ballard explained to Sasha that if she agreed to go on an OP she would be part of the communications by watching and Reporting on activities surrounding the sting so it's set up as this is totally a normal thing that we do you're protected yeah we have to do this operation to save the kids in this one way you could be a really vital part of it and you don't even need to worry if I'm just going to touch you gently so that you think that so that people think that we're a couple together and she does not even know the NDA what she's you know going to now be manipulated and sign up for and just Tim's going to keep pulling her in more and more to get to do more and more things to the point where once I get to the bottom of reading this I don't think she would ever sign up if she knew that it she'd be so unprotected as Tim left her so vulnerable in these sex parlors to the point that she felt like she was about to be raped on multiple occasions so Ballard told Sasha that he preferred to hire actors because cops could not act very well resulting in the traffickers not being fooled Ballard explained that traffickers can smell cops a mile away Ballard asked Sasha what she thought and responded that she was on board because she was a rape Survivor herself and felt strongly that she should help women and children Ballard responded by saying you are a rape Survivor yourself wow that would be a powerful story he also said I feel like you have to be hand selected from God because there are so many I can't trust we have thousands of applications every week but I can't just bring in anyone to be honest I felt pretty important and believed him that's what Sasha says any thoughts on that yeah there's uh he's introducing this element of of I guess you could call it priesthood or authority or elevating himself um and conflating what he's doing with a mission from God and while he might believe that um that is very manipulative on a spiritual level it's it's spiritual manipulation um yeah and that's one of those things where I don't know how Tim's going to deny that that's he's so Mr spiritual guy on every way that he talks about everything I don't think there's any way he's going to get out of the wom being able to prove and have so much cting evidence that yeah Tim said that I was hand selected by God and talking to a Mormon woman I don't know if Sasha is Mormon was Mormon is religious at all but we do come from a culture where a male authority figure who you look up to you think they have a legit operation they're doing something endorsed by Elder B yeah has all of these accolades behind him yeah you would think in that kind a vulnerable situation that he knows something that I don't know and if I'm hand selected by God to do this and it's for the betterment of saving kids from a life of rape you are just absolutely manipulated into doing whatever Tim says from that point forward and I'm sure his defense is like I wasn't I was just talking you know what she's saying is probably not true is he probably would say that he would deny it he would deny saying but um I knew Tim for I was for seven years we work together and the language that Sasha uses in here sounds exactly like the things that I heard him say hundreds if not thousands of times he would um ascribe credit for his ideas for what he's doing as inspired by God coming from God he's the prophet of the American Covenant he's doing um God's work and he would use this religious language to um support what he was doing on a spiritual level from a a religious level and so he'd use language that you know people would pick up on especially Mormons and uh what she's describing I can I I can almost hear it like reading that like in his own voice it sounds exactly like things I've heard so I'm saying I'm calling out Sasha as a credible witness and a credible source and from my experience an knowing him for many years is this seems like the kind of things that he would say um something else that jumped out at me is um Tim said according to s's testimony that uh the traffickers can smell a cop from a mile away but somehow sweet nice kind middle-aged Mormon women or Utah women that are moms that doesn't raise suspicions at all I mean you look go ahead watch the press conference you you see anything from these women that's on camera their Persona how they represent themselves how they talk and stuff they are the furthest thing away from a creepy person that I could possibly think of yep the kind of person that would go down and exploit kids I I think he's just pulling from the wrong talent pool completely pulling from the wrong talent pool where you'd have to be an absolutely amazing actress and totally go into a really dark character to come off convincing that you're this creepy pedophile trying to exploit kids like these aren't the women to do that right and if the coup's Rus came from God and we've talked about how his partners for the couples's RS have often been inspired by Katherine his wife saying who he should have as the next R partner or his psychic Janet Russen and all of these things leading these women to believe that they're chosen for this operation and they are put and set up to fail to begin with let alone what Tim is going to to do to them in these situations they don't have the training but they do have the spiritual manipulation and grooming to think that they will be able to get out of these places and do something worthwhile but it's it's a complete fail from the get-go it it should have never even gotten off so I think that's that's also a really good point that you can't go to Draper Utah and pull somebody out of like the carpool lineup with their kids and then send them into a brothel in Mexico and have them fit right in and Tim's like yeah the training is making out with me and now you're ready to go like that that's not how these operations work nobody in law enforcement would think that's a good idea but Tim has all of his Inspirations and reasons why yeah it's a great idea and it would have worked if they didn't reveal everything in the lawsuit we would have gotten so many kids he says remember she did phenomenal and the only way to find the trafficker was using this actress and the couple Rus would have gotten more kids but she talked in the lawsuit 10 months ago and put a pin in two things the grooming for these women that have probably never attended bro brothel have never been part of sex parties put a pin in that because I'm going to talk about that in my um next investigation and reveal um what that training or grooming process looked like and also put a pin in where he got the couple throughs ideas from it didn't come from God there is a person named Tom Harrison maybe that's God to him but that is the source for that and we're going to talk about that in in different different episodes so pin those two things keep going Ballard asked Sasha if she could go on an upcoming op because the original girl could not go I wonder if she's part of the lawsuit now Sasha was moving by herself so she explained that she could not go on the op on such short notice Ballard responded by offering to pay for a moving van and movers to help so Sasha could go he also gave her money to buy by name brand [ __ ] clothes for her character Brad had given her some cash for this Brad also mentioned to Sasha that he and Ballard thought that Sasha would be a great speaker and Sasha responded that she' always wanted to be so they are taking a Act somebody who came to Tim Ballard who was afraid that they were dating somebody who might be involved in trafficking she's a rape Survivor herself the training that she's going through is completely skirted over and anything that she does think is her training the other people that she's going to be doing these Ops missions with like uh Matt Cooper immediately are like have flagrant disregard for the training of the confidentiality already and then she's uh brought on this under this like generosity and the scope of what a lucky opportunity she is to be able to speak on future or our events and like advocate for women who have come from similar backgrounds as herself she is the prime victim for Tim Ballard take advantage of given what she's gone through and then this this lack of training that he just was able to skirt over because if I throw some money at you if I help you out you know I'm a good guy and let's get this thing done called of God and the lack of training and the lack of awareness man what an irresponsible thing to do to throw her into a situation like this I mean law enforcement I'm sure has multiple training tiers before they go into dangerous situations and it just screams to me just such irresponsibility and it's what a danger for her to just say hey I like you you're cute let's go send her down across the border into very dangerous situations like if that's how it is uh this just seems really irresponsible and I think I think that that that that can't be how the best practices in this industry go can't be and as we know how other industry professionals and law enforcement have also called out called out oh you are and said this isn't how we actually do it and this isn't no way to shame the women for ever putting themselves in this situation because they are prime they're just Prime examples and not to mention that everyone that we've also talked to would you also agree with this that uh talked to Eric MOS I've talked to lots of other different oart insiders that have come out and be on our podcast that Tim needed to be the central alpha male and anyone who would like butt heads with they were gone like Tim didn't keep around people who would be smarter than him who would have uh conflicting ideas about how to even run successful operations if they did not fall in line with Tim as the ultimate Alpha if they were in competition to him he made sure that they were out so where are these women supposed to go if it's not to a bunch of like other yes men and like Tim Ballard Lackey yeah the people that were H that Tim hired to run o had most of them had zero experience in anti-human trafficking efforts or law enforcement you I would think that law enforcement xcia human trafficking expertise would be a absolute requirement for working at Ur in this capacity but time and time again we see that everybody that he hired and I mean I was considered for the jump team at one point and I have zero experience in in that and I got I got really nervous about going on the jump team after somebody right next to me got shot and uh Tim tried to cover it up cover up his involvement anyways another story for another day um but uh yeah everybody that was in most people that were involved like John Morland don't want to say anything bad about John Morland but he's a businessman he's an he's a businessman he became CEO of UR business people with experience and ways to make money was uh prerequisite for getting a director or if you had a private jet that you would give to Tim that in the case of John um then you get to be CEO then you get a leadership position but law enforcement actual expertise in the industry uh not not a job requirement for this this kind of work naivity or inexperience actually is preferred because then you can't challenge him on his tactics you can't you know yeah knowing that all of those other lackies will support him and rally around him and not the victims that he has made out of his flawed tactics to even save the kids Tim doesn't does he doesn't have a vested interest in doing this the right way to buy some [ __ ] clothes Ballard told Sasha that they would be talking a lot because they had to create a relationship to convince the traffickers that they were a couple so they needed to get to know one another in some of their training quote unquote training Ballard brought up the name of hu v a person Sasha actually knew prior to meeting Ballard and who was a huge part of Sasha's healing from her own abuse so do you know who HUV is y I'm friends with them I know well okay well I shouldn't say really well but yeah so T So Hugh ended up in um the graveyard of Tim Ballard um I wonder if I'm okay telling the story I don't think say it in just the most safe general terms that they were working together and they had a disagreement and I I'll I'll say I um Hugh and Tim had a falling out Tim accused Hugh of misusing our funds and um and he Tim began threatening a lot of people with um exposing them and their supposed crimes as he saw when the Davis County investigation started going on um lots of people that I know that were part of the Tim Bard graveyard in fact Hugh told me the the term Tim Bard get graveyard came from Hugh in a conversation we were having because um yeah anyways uh lots of people in from former Ur circles were being reached out to by Tim and intimidated or threatened that if I go down you're going down with me and something along those lines um happened with you and I don't want to tell his story it's it's his to tell if he chooses to come forward and tell it all but um I know Hugh well enough to know that I'm impressed with him and his character and Tim throwing Hugh under the bus is somebody that not that can't be trusted is uh uh it's not true yeah so that further kind of corroborates exactly what she's saying here that Balor told Sasha that Hugh was not to be trusted along with many other people in his organization Sasha was sad to hear that about Hugh but Sasha trusted Ballard Ballard told Sasha that the other female operators would fall in love with him so he had to change operators often he's and he's he's doing a ton of operations he's been saving more kids than ever and as he's doing that what can you what can you do also the women just keep fall in love with me Ballard also asked sh Sasha to never betray him Ballard warned that if anything got leaked it could PE put people's lives at risk on April 28th 2021 Sasha received an email from hu V asking her about Ballard's relationship with her Sasha immediately told Ballard about the email Ballard said his team was just looking out for Ballard and testing Sasha's loyalty to Ballard and that Sasha passed more training on the loyalty card than on the we're going to send you into brothel and let's make sure that everything's kosher so you don't get raped front ballor dismissed the others from his office telling them he needed to prepare Sasha for the mission I don't like what preparing means as Sasha sat on a couch in Ballard's office Ballard told Sasha that he needed to get to know more about Sasha so they were comfortable with each other Ballard asked questions about Sasha's current relationship her children and the trauma abuse as a child Ballard again said it would make an amazing story Ballard came over to sit by Sasha and kept getting closer to Sasha until at one point Ballard put his hand on Sasha's leg and cressed her inner thigh Sasha immediately tensed up but thought that Ballard was testing her and that she should just keep talking as if nothing were happening another test he just told her something another test was happening and that this is this is not real life I'm not actually being a gross guy right now coming on to you this is all part of the test see if you can get the job it's a very interesting grooming technique especially with an NDA Sasha kept talking as Ballard stroked her neck Ballard finally got frustrated that she wasn't responding to his advances and asked Sasha why are you not responding Sasha responded because I know you're testing me Ballard said he needed to know if Sasha was attracted to him Ballard asked Sasha if she was attracted to him to which Sasha said not in that way ooh [Music] this is he's striking out with the 15th cheerleader at the high school reunion and he's just like everyone's attracted to me everyone falls in love with me that must have hit his ego hard he got friend zoned Ballard asked how Sasha could convince traffickers of chemistry then like you're a professional actress or something get out of here I only hire you because you're hot Sasha told him that she did not need to practice because that was what she was trained to do as an actor get into character then uh in a role but only on action and out on Cut Sasha explained that she never practiced chemistry or romance scenes privately outside of being on set Ballard then stated he's like well that's not how we do it here in Saving sex traffic kids land okay Balor then stated that this was the practice he mentioned previously and that Sasha needed to be attracted to him in order to convince traffickers that they were a kinky couple Ballard told Sasha that he must know she could pull this off as a prior female operator went out on a mission once and couldn't perform so all those donor dollars were wasted and the mission to save kids failed again deflect blame deflect blame Ryan somebody had a really good comment on our last YouTube video and somebody said in response to the DNA being on Celeste skirt and as we know Tim has completely denied this entire time that he's done anything in appropriate he has been nothing but just like an innocent virginal Deacon as he's going into these hot beds of debauchery right and there is a DNA match to his Sean on the skirt and somebody commented and said saving sex traffic victims should never result in like ejaculation of Tim Ballard or like the operator if if that's where we're at you're not actually in Saving sex traffic kids I think that's just a really simple way to to boil it all down should never include DNA found on a skirt Sasha approached Ballard in the hallway outside of Ballard's office and put her hand on his chest and spoke to him seductively saying that she could turn it on if she needed to and put then pulled back immediately but at that point Ballard got excited and said oh good okay you can do this uh Sasha asked Ballard if there were cameras in the building he panicked and looked around and said no no we're good Ballard continued uh in his couples Ro training instructed Sasha that from the moment they got inside the plane heading to the location inside cars walking on the street anywhere except for the safe house they were supposed to be in character as a kinky couple because the traffickers have people watching them at every move they met with part of this where they went before flying out they went and met with Glenn Beck and then this is the part where they get to Port laa Ballard was all over Sasha with his hands on her buttocks and His Hands wrapped trapped through her legs while sitting on the airplane Ballard and Sasha finally arrived at the very large safe house that overlooks the ocean and has a private Chef the secondary team stayed in a second location so very nice setup paid for by oou Sasha had her own room and Ballard has his the next day while the chauffeur drove Ballard and oh wait chauffeur or was it like a taxi driven by the cartels that's what Tim said drove Ballard and Sasha around Ballard was in the backseat groping Sasha this is where Tim's like oh because I like held her hand in the back seat she wants millions of dollars groping in a chauffeur is a lot different and it's going to get worse of what she's even alleging that Tim doesn't want to talk about the windows were dark but Ballard insisted that they have to remain in character on at least one occasion valor's hand got quite close to uh Sasha's groin area Sasha told him that he didn't have to be so close so she pulled back Ballard explained they were going to uh explained that they were going out to find massage parlors Sasha asked him how she was going to avoid having to get naked in those massage parlors Ballard responded by telling her that it would be fine if she stayed in her underwear Ballard says Sasha could lay face down on a shared massage table and he would lay face up so they could still talk to one another in each other's ears Sasha expressed concerns to Ballard telling him that she knew the massage therapist quote unquote would want her to take her bra off which she didn't want to do so she said her story would be that she had a boob job and she could not take off her Brath for support purposes Ballard assured Sasha that he would help Express that as the escorts may be speaking in Spanish Ballard is fluent in Spanish but Sasha is not first problem right there too Ballard located a massage parlor and instructed the drivers to drop them off they were then taken to the back massage room where they undressed and got on the table Sasha was in a bra and underwear two women came into the room and Ballard started speaking to them in Spanish the two women took off their took their own clothes off okay down to their underwear 2 and started massaging Sasha and Tim Tim asked questions which led them to talking about a party and him asking for Fresca younger girls Ballard instructed Sasha that if the escorts got too close to touching them the code word was [ __ ] me to which it was Sasha's job to convince the women that Sasha needed to [ __ ] her boyfriend and get the women out of the room one of the massage girls undid Sasha's bra and Sasha responded oh no no and told Ballard whose opt name was Brian to tell the women in Spanish why she needed to keep her bra on Ballard repeated that Sasha said but only in English not in Spanish and the women did not care so keep in mind she is told that she will not have to get naked she feels completely uncomfortable doing that as she should Tim says that don't worry we have a code word and I will communicate in Spanish when needed when she says no no and it's not going according to plan and they're trying to take off her bra and that is a boundary Crossing for her Tim responds in English knowing that they won't understand okay Ballard said the code word and so Ballard said the code word and Sasha immediately pretended to be jealous telling the or escorts not to touch Ballard so he says the code word [ __ ] me to the room of these half naked you know massage parlor ladies and with her bra off now in this miscommunication from English to Spanish at that exact moment it sounds like Tim is saying now that you have your bra off [ __ ] me and now you need to now you need to come over here so this is where it goes next Sasha next said the code word because one of the women went straight for Sasha's crotch Balor did not respond to protect her so Sasha repeated it again again did not respond to protect her at which point Sasha understood that she needed to get the women out of their room or else she may be compromised and was in extreme danger as part of the ruse Sasha kissed Ballard's neck and rubbed his belly and told the women to leave as she needed to F her boyfriend however the women just stood back to watch Sasha rolled over on top of Ballard so that the women could see that she was serious as Sasha was very scared that the woman would not believe them and leave her alone so she's now had her top undone because Tim did not tell them to stop and now she's so scared that she's trying to get away from them so she rolls half naked on top of Tim probably just as his fantasies so Sasha told them to leave again this time with enough anger that the women left once the women left Sasha realized she was topless on top of Ballard's chest Sasha immediately got off and got dressed a trafficker had shown up and a conversation ensued Sasha and Ballard left the massage parlor and Sasha immediately had a panic attack so Balor told Sasha you are burning up Sasha was burning up and was shaking so visibly upset and as she should be in given the situation so sh Sasha could barely walk from shaking due to what just happened I mean the adrenaline and somebody the first time they're encountering real Danger real possible you know traffickers and feeling so vulnerable I can imagine the adrenaline and a panic attack racing through her body is already hard enough to experience but also if Tim's whole point is that cops can't do this job it needs to be like Suburban Housewives and actresses and hairdressers from Utah the second that they see somebody collapse from like the kind of trauma that they just ensued that's going to be a dead giveaway and I think that's happened time and time again when these women are not protected by Tim and have to go through these like really traumatic experiences how are they going to walk out of that massage parlor without the the massas and the the traffickers saying like yeah I definitely have seen seen that actress somewhere that ain't no kinky sex fiend like this isn't this isn't their first rodeo Tim would have to know the kind of trauma that's ensued especially if somebody has a rape Survivor this is not the position to put them in I know like a rape Survivor putting them in a position where they're being touched inappropriately where they feel threatened where they feel like they are being um assaulted and their protectors not not responding how could that not be triggering I'm like in it's such such a vulnerable situation it's yeah yeah and this is like kind of standard protocol of the coup's r it sounds like so Ballard gave her a few moments to breathe and then they were off to the next parlor oh my gosh and then they're off to the next parlor oh gosh over the next three days Ballard and Sasha had similar experience in massage parlor across Porte lavarta after one such in which Sasha obtained some phone numbers of traffickers Ballard screamed Sasha's accolades in the car after saying he couldn't believe what Sasha was able to do as she got so many phone numbers and that would allow Oar to save so many children that seems like I thought that the cars that you were in were run by the cartels and that you always had to be in character but when they got to the car now suddenly sounds like he's screaming yay we did our undercover work so well I hope we don't get caught he's like we always have to be in character except for when I need to brag about what we just accomplished Sasha then told Ballard that she was sorry about what happened in the first massage parlor to which Ballard responded that it was okay because he and his other operators would accidentally kiss because they were so in character Ballard also revealed that they would often sleep together in the same safe house next to each other snuggling because the Ops are so traumatic kind of setting it up to fail so that when the trauma comes come to Daddy I know that was traumatic swee heart get in here do you want to come snuggle me and I would I wouldn't pass up on that either like under that circumstances even if I was married to somebody else I can understand being like that was so like devastating is there somebody around us can I sleep in your bed can like I be next to you because of what I just experienced so I understand like why they might want to sleep in the same bed together but the fact that Tim would do this and you say yeah this is actually what we do so often it's so traumatic that this is part of make it less traumatic then and put in some protocols so you don't have to do things that cross people's boundaries that that's not Tim's like idea book of how to solve this sex trafficking Global problem here and if that's true that after traumatizing her and letting her be inappropriately touched and sexually assaulted he then says well suggests that we sleep in the same bed together like that's just so creepy the analogy that comes to mind is literally just like a used car salesman who has like a dealership and they sell you like a lemon of a car and proposition you that it's got all these great features and then but they have like this great package deal and so then when you need it fixed oh and then you can also come to us and come to us and come to us to get your you know services to get the car back up in orderly shape so to traumatize somebody and then to be the source to come back to trauma they cause the problems but they're also the solution yeah reminds me of other certain religious institutions so Ballard said that uh sometimes things would happen in the couple's RS and he would have to go ejaculate as things got too steamy Sasha told Ballard that's interesting that won't be me at one of the parlors the female trafficker and Ballard were talking about something in Spanish to which the female came directly to Sasha and grabbed her breast and crotch Sasha said the code word trying to play it off and looked at Ballard for reprieve Ballard just watched another indication that he's there to traumatize them geez oh gosh at one point female trafficker brought up a younger female to take her clothes off down to her underwear and turn around for Brian that's Ballard to approve For an upcoming party Ballard approved and the young female was dismissed the older female trafficker did not want to wait for any upcoming party and wanted to partake of Sasha now okay they wanted to get the party started immediately Sasha immediately knew she was going to be raped if she didn't get out as the female kept grabbing her forcefully and that Sasha fell on the the bed Sasha knew she had to get herself out so she made up a story that there was a meeting that they had to go to Ballard said what meeting Sasha left Ballard and went outside Ballard got upset with Sasha saying why do you leave we were so close to getting information so in we were so close to getting information that these people are rapist and you were going to be our victim we were so close to nailing them as rapists if only you would have stayed to be their victim that's like his point like goodness this is dark oh my gosh this is disturbing Sasha told Ballard uh she feared she was going to be raped and was upset he didn't help her ballor told her he would never let it get too far it's already gone too far to which Sasha again felt bad for doubting Ballard and she worried she stopped the opportunity for kids to be saved blame reversal when uh when they were at the safe house in between these massage parlor missions Ballard would answer his door in just a towel and still have her come in to talk about the op this is still a professional apparent operation put some clothes on Bellard kept saying you know I'm clean right I didn't even get turned on by this stuff you see I don't even get a boner see I'm just kidding he didn't say that but maybe did Sasha asked Ballard why he still went on Ops when he told everyone he was not doing them anywhere Ballard responded by saying it makes me a big shot and I want to be in the Trump Administration just getting me that part Ballard responded that Elder Ballard sanctioned the couple's ruse and it was Ballard's Tim Ballard's calling to do ops anything to say on that one Mr Ballard expert there is verification of that in fact Katherine Ballard just verified that two days ago in an interview that she did and uh pin in that because we're going to go into that I'm going to show you the video and um Timmy Timmy did what he did what he did something and that statement is was just corroborated by Katherine Ballard I'm going to show it to you next next next video next uh investigation so stay tuned it's a bomb show it really is Right can't wait for that so Timmy did what we'll find out in the next episode on that so at one point Sasha had to go to shower and get ready for an op and Ballard said you can use my shower to which Sasha responded no thank you I've got my own Ballard double checked with her saying that he would leave the room and she still said no later while they were eating at a safe house Ballard confided in Sasha that things with Katherine weren't the best Sasha asked Ballard if Katherine knew about the couple's ruls to which he said she did Sasha asked Ballard if she knew all the details though and he responded that she is such a saint she does not ask questions as she is willing to do anything to save the kids Sasha told Ballard that he should stop doing Ops and be at home with his family to heal and his PTSD was very apparent and he needed to rest and just be with his family the last night in puera larta was when Ballard took Sasha to strip clubs prior to this last night Sasha had expressed to Matt Cooper that she was concerned about Ballard uh she convited a bit to him that Ballard had been distracted worried about her betraying him the whole time and didn't protect her CP listened to her and said Ballard did need some help but that was the extent of it Ballard told Sasha that she was to block for Ballard and the goal was to get girls back to the private rooms to ask questions and get phone numbers Coupe Matt Osborne and Jorge were all there as secondary in another part of the club Sasha was mentally emotionally physically compromised after what it took to get a couple phone numbers at this club and she told Ballard she had to be taken back to the safe house as Sasha was leaving The Sting She oberved Jorge heading back to a room alone with one of the strippers for what was going to be a pleasure trip after the op Balor told Sasha she had done an incredible job and the trip had done enough so it goes on with uh more details from that and I I think we can just kind of leave it on the point we're going to get into another further episode in uh some evidence that's come out from the Colombian trial that we don't have access to right now but we were going to try to get our hands on that indicate that during these types of operations whether it's the law enforcement in the country that they're operating in or people that are supposed to be Opera operators there to do a job and you know go into these brothel and strip clubs and massage parlor to look for people who are being trafficked and vulnerable people to save them from this horrific life of rape and this industry that as it indicates here sometimes there's also a little bit of a pleasure trip sometimes they're like well while I'm here I can also just uh pay this stripper to go give me a handy in the back room and as the Colombian trial is indicated we will get our hands in the documents and come you with this information later that uh looks like some of the law enforcement in columia also had sex with these like underage potential trafficking victims while they were there to potentially save them so it's a new testimony that just came up in the Kelly sores case and um we heard about the testimony that was given just this last week um and we're waiting on uh reporting to uh verify real sleazy predatory people working within oou that Tim knew about and so we're going to kind of hold that tight to our chest um up until after the trial ends and some more things come out so what she just said here what we're hearing in Colombia people like Jorge this person on an ops mission in the Tim balard video when he's in the car with lastation he he turns the camera and he has Matt Cooper say what despicable people these women are and how they compromise this whole mission and he also talks to this other Ops person whose face and voice are distorted and he's also saying in really direct emphatic and disgusting terms that there's a special place in hell for Sasha but um I can kind of leave it there with Sasha's story and what Tim Ballard put her through yeah this is I hope you're starting to see a pattern here between um women that came joined o with the intent to put themselves at risk in a dangerous situation and dedicate their time energy and lives to help human trafficking and then become victims themselves of inappropriate sexual assault and then to be turned around and be blamed as a human trafficker as a pedophile as a support pedophiles is you know the the blood of these children is on their hands um you see in a pattern like that's the pattern that's and and and Sasha's story is not an isolated Incident That's why so many women this lawsuit and they are all telling the same story slightly different details but the progression of events what we're seeing and what hopefully you're seeing and dots you're connecting are they're the same the progression of events and the the mission objective and the um process for grooming it all the process that isn't in place at o that we can hear from people who had nothing to do with uh when the couple's R was even revealed to Tim that sounds like from every Insider that we've talked to that we'll eventually be trying to bring on we'll be interviewing now or in the future with our documentary uh so many people are just saying that the processes that were were in place they completely point and indicate to something as like halfhazard and traumatizing as things like this over and over and over again there weren't protocols and helpful people in place to prevent this type of trauma being wasted onto these young ladies yeah so to kind of WRA this up I want to contrast her victim statement for when you know the women had this press conference and they read statements and revealed their names their faces put themselves out there up to this criticism and let's just take a minute to um acknowledge how amazing and courageous it it is for her for Sasha and all these women to sit in front of cameras to put the most humiliating aspects of their life out in the public for the public to do what they do with you know and and and just to go put their faces names and go on camera like I I can't even imagine what it takes to do that and it it obviously comes from a place where they're deeply deeply hurt and want this person to be stopped like let's just that okay let's so let's well said EX exactly so these are her own words how many more women have to come forward for this to be taken seriously I am here painfully as a Survivor myself because I joined with many of you once all United with the company man a majority of the world for a cause we all agreed on which was to stop predators and protect women and children from sexual exploitation what we as a group have been through and experience personally in the same company has not just been painful for us we know it's horrifying for many of you too not only has Tim continued with his elaborate storytelling and denials of our experiences but o are came out with the following statement we are disappointed that the plaintiff's council continues to litigate this matter in public rather than accept our good faith efforts to resolve this dispute amicably my apologies this she goes on to say this enrages me and it would enrage me too because as it states in the lawsuit and I think this will come out as they go through the court system that there were internal investigations and external ones that showed that Tim Ballard needed to be ousted from his own organization which is probably the last thing that his board most of the people on Tim's gravy train of his family wanted to do and especially during the height of the sound of Freedom movie then all of this happening like last summer in 2023 so for them to say that these plaintiffs are doing this publicly like Tim says because they're after these millions of dollars when they know damn well that this was not something that they wanted to take public they don't want to air out all this kind of dirty laundry even though it's like a thousand times worse than that the most humiliating part of their life really they handled it with an internal investigation but they were not Tim was not being held accountable in any way he was able to go start the spear fund he was able to have a gigantic severance package and still operate and and facilitate these puet Str with his reputation intact yeah and get a Jeep Grand chokee and all of that and the he's not held accountable whatsoever but just you know asked to step down and so when all of the like Vice news articles and things and people started doing digging into what the Davis County investigators had to say started to uncover that the the things that made Tim step down from o wasn't just this conflict of interest because he's the sound of Freedom guy running oou which is what their story was that doesn't get you kicked out of your own organization get you forced out that there is there's more to the story now and you know with the great reporting and investigative journalism out of like Vice that Tim just smeared from the very beginning is just this is slander from the the pedophiles the traffickers and from a tabloid magazine when no it's backed up by the fact that Tim was ousted from this organization for not just like little innocuous reasons for something very serious and this very serious thing that they're talking about it should enrage them that he was never held accountable and now they have to take this public so that he is stopped and his reputation should not be maintained as this superhero uh Savor of women after what he's done I would think that a good faith effort on ur's part would have included giving them a copy of the internal investigation report that found all the nefarious things Tim was doing the unethical you know to use a term that is with a lot has a lot of Grace the unethical the damaging the hurtful things that he did at least acknowledging those um to them and to the public would be even better that would be that that's what I would think gaslighting out of it yeah good faith e but instead they issue a statement that they are disappointed in the attorneys that they are taking this public that that's a disappointment yeah in the Plaines they're disappointed in the plaintiffs that they're taking this they're disappointed in the women for taking this public how dare you guys I know like you're not disappoint you give us a call that you were going to do this it's just the enti internal investigation the disappointment should be that women have been hurt and traumatized and assaulted that's ridiculous come on that's a disappointment thank you Ryan well said all right really powerful because there's a side they haven't shared many of us have given o and Tim multiple chances and warnings to take ownership to make amends and to protect their company and this cause privately not only over several months but years they have said we are out to hurt the cause and our ourselves whoever we are but they know who we are and have lied about us I have risked my life for this cause and the pain and Fallout from it has been tremendous the way in which they have handled us the very victims they say they Swear to protect is gut-wrenching we have not been out to get anyone we have just told the painful and traumatizing truth embarrassingly we became the victims yes but we are also Warriors and there are many women and men unnamed and unknown who aren't standing here who too have been hurt by this We join this fight to rescue and protect children women men and to stop predators and we are still doing that right now by speaking this truth how many more women have to come forward for this to be taken seriously and be seen for what it is if this was your wife your mother your sister your friend would it be so hard to believe it then it's ugly yes but it has to be seen because this has to stop I joined a cause to fight for victims and prevent further pain I don't want more war more victims more hiding and denying for this world I want more healing action and coming together and sometimes the most painful part of that healing is telling the damn truth right on right on she is a Powerhouse um Sasha if you're listening we are in your corner we believe you we support you and anyone else who was moved and had chills and can see the conviction in Sasha to tell the truth no matter what it costs her no matter how embarrassing it is no matter the smears these are brave brave ass women who are able to go into these horrendous situations to begin with and then on the other side have their name so despicably smeared by this man that was supposed to protect them come hell high water like Ryan and I are gonna keep beating this drum and Tim thinks he's gonna win this whole War but this is just one battle but the truth is on Sasha's side it's on the women's side yeah I don't want to be talking about this she's right this is a ugly gross disgusting subject but until it's stopped we have to be talking about it and um wow what a courageous testimony really all right and now I have to end us on even more of a downer because at the end of the day this is uh needs to be contrasted with her demeanor so I'm gonna let Tim play us out after I just went through that entire presentation we have to hear more of this and this is uh one of the final Clips Blood on the hand of Alan Ron and um and and and Sasha you know and it's total betrayal to the the country of Mexico it's betrayal to our operation and it made it especially dangerous for us because um you know it was all out there right but we did it anyway and and it was success but I I just don't think people realize how much these lawsuits are hurting kids it's giving away tactics it's it shut down the whole adoption process 26 kids will never be adopted because we had to use that lawsuit money that money that would have adopted kids to fight these legal battles we're in the millions of dollars now all right so so how do you feel Pedro about the fact that that this this this woman for money and she doesn't even allege anything more than that I held her hand and my hand on her leg I don't I probably did because we're driving around in taxis that are owned by the cartel like you're enroll the whole time right so for doing for holding her hand in Mexico she deserves millions of dollars apparently but all these kids will not be rescued how do you feel about that yeah to be quite Frank um if I just had to say one thing there's a special place in hell for woman uh they have and and they're doing this knowingly they have imp did the rescue of dozens and dozens I could even go as far to say hundreds over the past year of kids I mean operations have completely halted on many fronts operations I was part of and and all the hard work and all the sacrifices that we've had to make being away from families and being in danger also that these women can you know make a few dollars at the end of the day well every time I think about the 14 that we just rescued I just know there's there's probably 50 more that would have been rescued had Sasha not come out banging her fist all dramatically this has to stop what has to stop the only thing to stop was rescuing children so I don't know how you live with that even if you end up winning millions of dollars I'm world for platforming that message I wish we didn't have to hear that I wish you didn't have to hear that I uh I wish that I could have gone off on a a more positive note of just leaving with Sasha but I can't leave it undone without wrapping it in a bow of how we started of how Tim is talking about this people and after you hear Sasha's story and see her face and her tears and her testimony and you can put the pieces of the puzzle together to know that what Tim is saying and how he is smearing them and that his stories don't even align for him to say such despicable things after these women have already endured so much publicly to put that out there what kind of guy are we talking about is this really a guy who's called of God of Jesus Christ or is this a an an egomaniac self-aggrandizing marketing effort to uh prop himself up as this American hero I can only say that it just looks like it's the lad and it's never been and it never is going to be about saving anyone except for his ego and himself yeah I'd like to know if you are seeing what we're seeing punch punch punch punch punch so we need a rage room yeah really we need a rage room I need I'm I'm I'm going to have a hard time like uh getting out of this head space that was hard to watch but if you're seeing what we're seeing please comment please share your thoughts it seems painfully obvious to us where this these people are who is on the right side who is on the insulting demeaning side of this yeah let's know what you think just remember to follow us on this YouTube channel And subscribe because we named it Timmy did what because there is a lot of the what to the things that he did uh we have interviews coming an amazing content over on our patreon so patreon.com Timmy did what the link is down below it would be amazing if we could be able to do this content and endure this and stand up for the women and also be able to support ourselves and keep the lights on in the studio and all the effort and time it goes into putting this together for you guys and getting this information out we can't do it without funding so really 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