Ryan I love this question I'm so curious for you Candace F once know if there's ever been a celebrity you and your production company thought would be right for a reality show but it just didn't pan out you had so much success I mean you started the whole celeb reality thing with the Kardashians I think I mean it's hard to to do what the Kardashians have done no one will ever do that but most of the people that we have had on on a show have been pretty well and done a good job did you develop shows with stars that didn't wind up ever panning out sure we did I can't remember which ones didn't pan out because you remember the ones that make it on the air and you you throw a lot of darts at the board but the Kardashians are such an incredible Global franchise that it's hard to compare anybody to them um talk to me about Shaz of sunset which people on Bravo may or may not realize you you brought to us we brought um and how did that come to you that was something where uh the production company saw some casting of people that wanted to be uh show their lifestyle on TV after seeing the Kardashians and we together worked on that show and we had great characters and that's what makes those shows as you know the best great characters yes