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Introduction ASTRONAUTS NOW FORCED TO CATCH A DIFFERENT RIDE BACK HOME. WE WILL EXPLAIN. TOP STORY STARTS RIGHT NOW. >>> GOOD EVENING. TONIGHT, A COMMUNITY IN MOURNING AFTER GUNMEN STORMED THE GEORGIA HIGH SCHOOL KILLING AT LEAST TWO STUDENTS AND TWO TEACHERS. THE HORRIFYING SHOOTING COMING WEEKS AFTER CLASSES BEGAN FOR THE NEW YEAR. THIS ALL HAPPENING BEFORE 10:30 THIS MORNING. FIRST RESPONDERS RUSHING TO THE SCENE OVER REPORTS OF AN ACTIVE SHOOTER. THE SCHOOL QUICKLY PLACED INTO LOCKDOWN. STUDENTS EVACUATED TO A FOOTBALL FIELD OR A GRANDMOTHER 4 killed in GA school shooting LIVE STREAMED THE HEART WAKING MOMENT AS FAMILIES RACED TO REUNITE WITH THEIR KIDS. >> THERE IS A SHOOTING AT MY GRANDDAUGHTER SCHOOL. AND PEOPLE ARE OUT HERE TRYING TO GET THEIR CHILDREN. >> APALACHEE HIGH SCHOOL IS LOCATED IN WINDER, GEORGIA 50 MILES NORTHWEST OF ATLANTA. WE ARE TOLD NINE PEOPLE WERE TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL. SOME BY AMBULANCE, OTHERS BY HELICOPTERS OFFICIALS CONFIRMED THEY WERE AWESTRUCK BY BULLETS. THEIR CONDITIONS STILL UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME. THE SUSPECT IS A 14-YEAR-OLD STUDENT WHO IS CURRENTLY IN CUSTODY AFTER SURRENDERING TO POLICE. NBC CONFIRMING HE WILL BE CHARGED WITH MURDER AND TRIED AS AN ADULT. SO MANY QUESTIONS LEFT UNANSWERED TONIGHT AS THIS COMMUNITY IS LEFT REELING FROM THIS TRAGEDY. NBC'S PRIYA SRIDHAR HAS THE LATEST FROM GEORGIA. >> Reporter: WE ARE IN WINDER, GEORGIA AFTER OFFICIALS SAY A SUSPECTED SHOOTER OPEN FIRE IN APALACHEE HIGH SCHOOL. >> THE 14-YEAR-OLD STUDENT HERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AGAIN HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. HE WILL BE CHARGED WITH MURDER AND HE WILL BE TRIED AS AN ADULT. >> Reporter: THIS VIDEO CAPTURING TERRIFYING MOMENTS AFTER GUNFIRE RANG OUT. POLICE SAY DEPUTIES AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL PERSONNEL RUSHED TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AT ABOUT 10:23 A.M. IN RESPONSE TO AN ACTIVE SHOOTING. THE SCHOOL PUT ON LOCKDOWN. AUTHORITIES SAY THE GUNFIRE LEFT FOUR DEAD, TWO TEACHERS AND TWO STUDENTS AND NINE INJURED. >> THE SHOOTERS QUICKLY REALIZED -- HE GAVE UP, GOT ON THE GROUND AND THE DEPUTIES TOOK HIM INTO CUSTODY. >> Reporter: COACH DAVID PHOENIX WAS SHOT TWICE AND IS ALIVE ACCORDING TO HIS DAUGHTER WHO POSTED ON FACEBOOK THAT HE IS IN STABLE CONDITION. >> MY HEART HURTS FOR OUR KIDS. MY HEART HURTS FOR THE COMMUNITY BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT HAIGHT WILL NOT PREVAIL IN THIS COUNTY. LOVE WILL PREVAIL OVER WHAT HAPPENED TODAY. >> Reporter: STUDENTS RETURNED BACK TO SCHOOL IN AUGUST. SOFTWARE -- SOPHOMORES DESCRIBING THE TERRIFYING MOMENT . >> I DIDN'T KNOW -- I WAS SHAKING. SCARED . >> I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DIE. >> Reporter: SHE SAYS SHE WAS SHAKEN UP AND SCARED. HOW DOES IT FEEL THAT THIS HAPPENED AT YOUR HIGH SCHOOL? >> I'M SHOCKED. I'M SHOCKED SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAN HAPPEN HERE. >> Reporter: PARENTS RUSHED TO THE SCHOOL, LATER REUNITING WITH THEIR STUDENTS AT THE FOOTBALL FIELD . >> MY DAUGHTER CALLED ME AT WORK, SCREAMING THAT THERE WAS A SHOOTER AT APALACHEE. >> Reporter: PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN BRIEFED TODAY, WRITING, JILL AND I ARE MOURNING THE DEATHS OF THOSE WHOSE LIVES WERE CUT SHORT DUE TO MORE SENSELESS GUN VIOLENCE. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S POSTING THESE CHILDREN WERE TAKEN FROM US FAR TOO SOON BY A SICK AND DERANGED MONSTER. AT A RALLY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS -- >> WE HAVE TO STOP IN AND WE HAVE TO END THIS EPIDEMIC OF GUN VIOLENCE IN OUR COUNTRY ONCE AND FOR ALL. >> PRIYA SRIDHAR JOINS US FROM WINDER, GEORGIA. THE SUSPECT IS COOPERATING WITH AUTHORITIES. WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A POSSIBLE MOTIVE? >> Reporter: TOM, THE GEORGIA BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION HAS INTERVIEWED THE SUSPECT'S FAMILY MEMBERS BUT AT THIS POINT THEY SAY THAT THE INVESTIGATION IS STILL ONGOING. AUTHORITIES ALSO TOLD US TODAY IN A BRIEFING THAT IT IS UNCLEAR WHETHER THE SUSPECT HAD ANY DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE VICTIM. >> PRIYA SRIDHAR LEADING US OFF TONIGHT HERE ON TOP STORY. WE WANT TO MOVE OVERSEAS NOW TO THE MIDDLE EAST WHERE THERE ARE MAJOR BREAKING HEADLINES. >>> THIS JUST IN, THE U.S. IS NOW CONSIDERING ITS OWN -- Netanyahu under pressure AMERICAN HOSTAGES, ESSENTIALLY NEGOTIATING WITH HAMAS. THIS AS ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HELD A RARE PRESS CONFERENCE IN ENGLISH TODAY FOR INTERNATIONAL MEDIA AS MASS PROTESTS CONTINUE TO ERUPT ACROSS HIS COUNTRY. RAF SANCHEZ IS IN TEL AVIV WITH THE LATEST. >> Reporter: NIGHT AFTER NIGHT IS REALLY STICKING TO THE STREETS DEMANDING THAT THE PRIME MINISTER MAKE THE CONCESSIONS NEEDED TO MAKE A HOSTAGE DEAL. TONIGHT AN EMBATTLED YET DEFIANT BENJAMIN NETANYAHU DECLARING HE WON'T WITHDRAW TROOPS FROM THE EGYPT GAZA BORDER KNOWN AS THE PHILADELPHI CORRIDOR. >> IT NEEDS TO BE DEMILITARIZED AND IT CAN ONLY BE DEMILITARIZED IF THE PHILADELPHI CORRIDOR REMAINS UNDER CONTROL. >> Reporter: THE CORRIDOR IS A MAJOR PART OF THE STALEMATE IN CEASE-FIRE TALKS AND ISRAELI FORCES WAITED UNTIL MAY TO TAKE CONTROL OF IT . >> IF THE CORRIDOR IS SO IMPORTANT, AS YOU SAY, WHY IS IT YOU LEFT IT FOR EIGHT MONTHS? >> IT'S CRITICAL ALSO TO DESTROY HAMAS, TO KILL ABOUT 20,000 OF THEIR OPERATIVES. THIS WAS THE MILITARY PLAN THAT THE MILITARY AND THE POLITICAL ECHELON AGREED UPON. >> Reporter: PUBLIC FURY OVER HAMAS'S KILLING OF THESE SIX HOSTAGES AND THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT'S FAILURE TO SAVE THEM. AMONG THE DEAD, 27-YEAR-OLD -- >> THE MOTHER SAYS, QUOTE, YOU SACRIFICE HER SON ON THE ALTAR OF THE PHILADELPHI CORRIDOR. IF THE PRICE OF YOUR REFUSAL IS MORE HOSTAGES ARE KILLED, IS THAT A PRICE YOU ARE PREPARED TO PAY AND IS THAT A PRICE IS REAL WELL -- WILL ACCEPT? >> I'M COMMITTED TO GETTING ALL OF THEM OUT. >> Reporter: NEITHER THE PRIME MINISTER NOR THE PROTESTERS BACKING DOWN. >> RAF SANCHEZ JOINS US TONIGHT FROM TEL AVIV. WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED? >> Reporter: FIVE SOURCES ARE TELLING NBC NEWS THAT THE U.S. IS CONSIDERING MAKING A DIRECT DEAL WITH HAMAS TO FREE THOSE REMAINING HOSTAGES. SUCH A DEAL WITH A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION IS UNLIKELY. NO FORMAL OFFER HAS BEEN MADE BUT IT IS BEING CONSIDERED AND IT COMES AS THE WHITE HOUSE IS UNDER INTENSE PRESSURE FROM THE FAMILIES OF THOSE REMAINING SEVEN HOSTAGES, BUT ALSO AS THE BIDEN AT ILLUSTRATION IS LOSING FAITH IN ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU'S WILLINGNESS TO ACTUALLY MAKE A DEAL. >> GOING BACK TO THAT NEWS CONFERENCE WHERE YOU ARE ABLE TO ASK PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU THOSE QUESTIONS, THIS WAS DONE ALL IN ENGLISH AND WE CAN'T ESCAPE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, RIGHT? HE WANTED THE WORLD TO WATCH THIS NEWS CONFERENCE? >> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT. PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU, CONSIDERED ONE OF THE WORLD'S GREAT COMMUNICATORS, COMPLETELY FLUENT IN ENGLISH, COMFORTABLE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF -- WANTED TO MAKE HIS CASE TODAY ABOUT Trump and Harris spar over economy WHY THAT PHILADELPHI CORRIDOR IS SO IMPORTANT FOR ISRAEL . >> RAF SANCHEZ THANK YOU FOR THAT . >>> NOW BACK TO HOME WITH THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL RACE. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TODAY. THIS AS SHE BREAKS WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN ON SOME ECONOMIC POLICIES. GABE GUTIERREZ IS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WITH HER TONIGHT. >> Reporter: RIDING A WAVE OF DEMOCRATIC ENTHUSIASM AND UNDER PRESSURE TO KEEP IT, VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS UNVEILING NEW PROPOSALS ON A TOP ISSUE FOR VOTERS. THE ECONOMY. >> IT'S ESSENTIALLY A TAX CUT FOR STARTING A SMALL BUSINESS. >> Reporter: HARRIS PROPOSING A SERIES OF NEW BENEFITS FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS INCLUDING A $50,000 TAX DEDUCTION FOR EXPENSES, 10 TIMES WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED AND SHE WANTS A SMALLER INCREASE OF A CAPITAL GAINS TAX THAT PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN CALLED FOR. >> COMPARE THAT TO WHAT DONALD TRUMP'S PLANS. HE PLANS TO GIVE BILLIONAIRES MASSIVE TAX CUTS AND TO CUT CORPORATE TAXES. >> Reporter: HER PLANS WOULD NEED CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. THAT'S PART OF WHY HARRIS IS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE HER -- STILL, POLLS SHOW VOTERS TRUST FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S MORE TO HANDLE THE ECONOMY. >> THIS IS THE LIE AT THE HEART OF KAMALA HARRIS'S CAMPAIGN. IF YOU ELECT HER SHE IS SOMEHOW GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN SHE WAS IN OFFICE WHERE HER POLICIES HAVE CAUSED HIGHER GROCERY PRICES, HIGHER FOOD PRICES AND A WIDE OPEN BORDER. >> Reporter: SMALL BUSINESS OWNER BRAD SMITH -- HARRIS BRINGS HOPE. DO YOU THINK YOUR SMALL BUSINESS IS BETTER OFF NOW THAN IT WAS DURING THE TRUMP'S ADMINISTRATION? >> WITHOUT A DOUBT AND I THINK THE REASON IS THAT HAS TO DO WITH OPTIMISM. IF YOU ARE A DOOM AND GLOOM CANDIDATE OR PRESIDENT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO -- >> Reporter: JACK THINKS OTHERWISE . >> I DON'T TRUST HER. >> Reporter: HE OWNS A BARBERSHOP IN PORTSMOUTH AND SAYS HE WILL VOTE FOR TRUMP'S . >> I THINK HE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB. HARRIS IS GOING TO BE FOUR MORE YEARS OF MISERY. >> GABE GUTIERREZ JOINS US NOW. IT'S INTERESTING THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN IS CAMPAIGNING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. I ASK BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES, DONALD TRUMP'S DID WELL THERE IN 2016, 2024, HE WAS THE WINNER, THEN YOU GO TO THE GENERAL ELECTION, HILLARY CLINTON WINS IN 2016 AND THIS IS JUST BARELY. 2020 SHOWS BIDEN DOES MUCH BETTER THAN WE LOOK AT NEW HAMPSHIRE AND YOU SAY TO YOURSELF, HOW MANY ELECTORAL VOTES DOES HE HAVE ? ONLY FOUR. SO THIS IS AN INTERESTING MOVE. >> Reporter: THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN WILL TELL YOU THEY ARE NOT TAKING ANYTHING FOR GRANTED, BUT THE TRUTH IS, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT PLAY. NOT JUST THE ELECTORAL VOTES ALSO THE BALLOT RACES HERE AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THERE'S A DEMOCRATIC MARY HERE NEXT WEEK AND THIS IS A KEY TIME THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF VOTERS HERE ARE -- SO IT'S AN EASY STOP FOR VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS AND THERE'S ALSO SOME CLEANUP BEING DONE HERE BECAUSE DEMOCRATS EARLY, THEY SHUNNED NEW HAMPSHIRE'S FIRST IN THE NATION PRIMARY AND SO THEY WANT TO COME BACK HERE. SHE MADE A VERY QUICK STOP HERE AND SAID HELLO TO VOTERS. PENNSYLVANIA, BATTLEGROUND STATE PENNSYLVANIA TOMORROW. 2024 presidential debate showdown TOM? >> GABE GUTIERREZ FOR US. WE APPRECIATE THAT . >>> THE VICE PRESIDENT ALSO GEARING UP TO DEBATE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S. THE SHOWDOWN LESS THAN A WEEK AWAY. WE WILL BE TAKING A LOOK AT EACH CANDIDATES STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES ON THE DEBATE STAGE. TONIGHT WE START WITH HARRIS WHO FACES A CRITICAL TEST IN HER TRUNCATED CAMPAIGN. KELLY O'DONNELL BREAKS IT ALL DOWN. >> Reporter: OF ALL THE VARIED STOPS ALONG THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, NO DESTINATION MAY CARRY AS MUCH CONSEQUENCE AS THE DEBATE STAGE WHERE VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S WILL MEET FACE-TO-FACE FOR THE FIRST TIME. >> AS THE SAYING GOES, IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY, SAY IT TO MY FACE. >> Reporter: MUST HAS -- MUCH HAS CHANGED SINCE HARRIS SPARRED WITH MIKE PENCE FOUR YEARS AGO. BEEF -- BEYOND A WAYWARD FLY, THAT DEBATE FEATURED A HARRIS TACTIC THAT SHE IS USED TO QUIET PROTESTS. >> YOU KNOW WHAT? IF YOU WANT DONALD TRUMP'S TO WIN, SAY THAT. OTHERWISE I'M -- >> MR. VICE PRESIDENT, I'M SPEAKING. I'M SPEAKING. IF YOU DON'T MIND LETTING ME FINISH, WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION, OKAY? OKAY. >> Reporter: IN THAT PEAK COVID PERIOD -- HANDLING OF THE -- >> THE GREATEST FAILURE OF ANY PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY. >> Reporter: SOME OF HARRIS'S NOTABLE DEBATE HIGHLIGHTS HAPPENED ALONGSIDE FELLOW DEMOCRATS IN WHAT WAS A CROWDED FIELD OF 2020 PRIMARY CONTENDERS. >> AMERICA DOES NOT WANT CASH THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY ARE GOING TO PUT FOOD ON THEIR TABLE. >> Reporter: DESEGREGATION AND BUSING IN THE 1970s. >> I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU ARE -- AND I AGREE WITH YOU WHEN YOU COMMIT YOURSELF TO THE IMPORTANCE OF FINDING COMMON GROUND, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE -- IT WAS HURTFUL TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT THE REPUTATION OF TWO UNITED STATES SENATORS WHO BUILT THEIR REPUTATION AND CAREER ON THE SEGREGATION OF RACE IN THIS COUNTRY. THERE WAS A LITTLE GIRL IN CALIFORNIA WHO -- TO INTEGRATE HER PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND SHE WAS BUSSED TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY AND THAT LITTLE GIRL WAS ME. >> Reporter: HARRIS DEBATE HISTORY ALSO SHOWS HER ON THE DEFENSIVE. HER RECORD AS A PROSECUTOR ATTACKED BY GABBARD WHO WAS THEN A DEMOCRAT BUT HAS SINCE TURNED INDEPENDENT AND ENDORSED TRUMP'S . >> SHE PUT 1500 PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR MARIJUANA VIOLATIONS THEN LAUGHED ABOUT IT IF SHE -- WHEN SHE WAS ASKED IF SHE EVER SMOKED MARIJUANA. >> Reporter: POLICY CHANGES ALSO UNDER SCRUTINY FROM A DEBATE MODERATOR. >> YOU USE TO OPPOSE OUTSIDE INVESTIGATIONS AND POLICE SHOOTINGS. NOW YOU DON'T. YOU SAID YOU CHANGED ON THESE AND OTHER THINGS BECAUSE YOU WERE, QUOTE, SWIMMING AGAINST THE CURRENT AND THANKFULLY, THE CURRENTS HAVE CHANGED. WHEN YOU HAVE THE POWER, WHY DIDN'T YOU TRY TO AFFECT CHANGE THEN? >> THERE HAS BEEN -- I'M GLAD YOU ASKED ME THIS QUESTION AND THERE HAVE BEEN MANY DISTORTIONS OF MY RECORD. >> Reporter: STEP FORWARD TO 2024 AND THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN HAS URGED A CHANGE IN DEBATE RULES TO ALLOW FOR CANDIDATES MICROPHONE TO BE ACTIVE THE ENTIRE TIME. THE TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN BACKED MUTING MICROPHONES WHEN CANDIDATES ARE NOT DESIGNATED TO SPEAK. HARRIS POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN PART, IF HIS OWN TEAM DOESN'T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN HIM, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DEFINITELY CAN'T, LET'S DEBATE IN A TRANSPARENT WAY WITH THE MICROPHONES ON THE WHOLE TIME. THE STAKES FOR NEXT TUESDAY HAVE BEEN HIGH SINCE THE UPHEAVAL THAT MADE HARRIS THE DEMOCRATS CANDIDATE. >> I'M READY AND I THINK THE VOTERS DESERVE TO SEE THE -- THAT EXISTS ON A DEBATE STAGE SO I'M READY, LET'S GO. >> KELLY O'DONNELL JOINS US NOW. YOU HAVE SOME NEW REPORTING ABOUT THE FINAL DECISIONS? >> Reporter: AT THIS POINT THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN IS SAYING THAT ALTHOUGH THEY WANTED TO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR MIKE'S TO BE ON THE ENTIRE TIME, THEY WILL GRANT THE TRUMP'S WISH THAT IT BE AS IT WAS DURING THE JOE BIDEN EXPERIENCE AND THE RULES THEY WANTED UNDER PRESIDENT BIDEN AND THAT IS, THE MICS WILL BE OFF. THEY HAVE COMMUNICATED THAT TO THE CAMPAIGN AND TO THE HOST NETWORK AND FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, THIS WILL BE THE CHANGE. IF THERE'S A LOT OF BACK-AND FORTH BETWEEN THE CANDIDATES, THE MICS COULD COME BACK UP. THERE WILL BE OTHER REPORTERS IN THE ROOM WHO CAN OBSERVE AND LISTEN AND FILL IN THE BLANKS FOR THE VIEWING AUDIENCE IF ANOTHER CANDIDATE IS SPEAKING WHEN THE MIC IS NOT ON. BUT WHAT HARRIS CAMPAIGN SAID THEY WANTED TO BE SURE OF WAS THAT TRUMP'S WOULD SHOW UP FOR THE DEBATE NEXT TUESDAY SO THEY AGREED TO THE PACKAGE. >> REPORTERS NOW IN THE ROOM IS SOMETHING NEW. WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. KELLY, YOU'VE COVERED A LOT OF DEBATES, BOTH VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S, WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING TO SEE, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON TUESDAY? >> IF THE CONVENTION WAS A WAY TO INTRODUCE HER BROADLY TO THE PUBLIC AND LAYOUT HER VISION, THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPICE UP THE TWO CANDIDATES SIDE BY SIDE. THEY'VE NEVER ACTUALLY MET IN PERSON. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S AND VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS. HE DID NOT GO TO THE INAUGURAL IN 2020 SO THEY HAVE NEVER MET IN PERSON. THIS WILL BE A CHANCE TO SEE HOW THEY INTERACT FROM THE HARRIS SIDE THEY SAY IS A FORMER PROSECUTOR SHE WILL BE ABLE TO -- THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND HE HAS TALKED ABOUT THE WAYS HE WILL USE A COMMAND OF THE STAGE AND HIS FAR MORE CONSIDERABLE EXPERIENCE IN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES BECAUSE THIS IS THE THIRD TIME HE'S RUNNING FOR OFFICE. >> KELLY O'DONNELL FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. GREAT REPORT. FOR MORE ON A PREVIEW OF WHAT TO EXPECT IN NEXT WEEK'S DEBATE LET'S BRING IN DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST KERA, ALSO A CONTENTED -- CONTESTANT ON THE APPRENTICE. HOGAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO HARRIS HAS NOT DONE A LOT OF INTERVIEWS. SHE HAS DONE ONE SITDOWN SINCE SHE GOT TO THE TOP OF THE TICKET. I ALSO NOTICE SHE HASN'T HELD ANY TOWN HALLS. ALL OF HER EVENTS ARE SORT OF SCRIPTED IN FRONT OF AUDIENCES NOT TAKING QUESTIONS. WHAT DO YOU THINK WE CAN EXPECT FROM THE DEBATE? >> I THINK YOU CAN EXPECT HER TO BE HER PROSECUTORIAL SELF. I THINK THAT'S WHAT HER TEAM WANTS HER TO BE AUTHENTIC AND BE COMFORTABLE AND THOSE ARE TWO VERY IMPORTANT FACTORS IN TERMS OF DEBATE. SHE IS A PROSECUTOR. THAT'S HER STRENGTH. SO THEY WILL PREPARE HER TO PLAY TO HER STRENGTHS. I THINK YOU WILL SEE A MORE PREPARED VICE PRESIDENT BECAUSE I THINK SHE IS EXPECTING SOME OF WHAT DONALD TRUMP'S IS GOING TO USE TO TRY TO ATTACK HER. I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE WAS ATTACKED FOR WHEN SHE WAS RUNNING HERSELF, I THINK SHE WILL BE MUCH BETTER PREPARED TO ADDRESS THOSE. >> HOGAN, I HEARD A LARGE SIGH AND I KNOW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE SIGHING. WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> I THINK SHE'S RIGHT. KAMALA HARRIS IS GOING TO BE PREPARED. SHE WAS A UNITED STATES SENATOR AND HAS RUN FOR PRESIDENT BEFORE. KELLY SET A GREAT PACKAGE EXPOSING WHAT, HERE'S IS ALL ABOUT. SOME CANNED ONE-LINERS. SHE'S DYING FOR THAT MOMENT WHERE SHE CAN LOOK AT DONALD TRUMP'S AND SAY I'M SPEAKING. I GUARANTEE SHE WILL HAVE ANOTHER CANNED LINE LIKE SHE DID AGAINST JOE BIDEN WHERE SHE SAID HE WAS A RACIST AND A . BUT IT COMES TO DONALD TRUMP'S TO EXPOSE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO RECORDS BECAUSE UNDER DONALD TRUMP'S YOU COULD AFFORD GAS AND GROCERIES, YOU HAD A CLOSED SOUTHERN BORDER, AND THERE WEREN'T WARS BREAKING OUT ALL OVER THE WORLD SO EVERY TIME KAMALA HARRIS SAYS IN THE FUTURE TENSE, IF ELECTED I WILL, ON DAY ONE I'M GOING TO, I PROMISE I WILL, ALL HE HAS TO SAY IS YOU ARE THE SITTING VICE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW. JUST DO THEM NOW AND IF YOU WANT, WHY ARE YOU BEING SO CRUEL TO MAKE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SUFFER FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS? >> TARA, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT? >> I THINK THERE'S A LOT FOR HER TALKING ABOUT HER BEING A PROSECUTOR. THERE'S A LOT TO PROSECUTE DONALD TRUMP'S ON. HE IS A CONVICTED FELON SO I THINK SHE'S GOING AFTER HIM ON THAT. I THINK THAT SHE HAS BECOME QUITE QUICK ON HER FEET FOR THE MOTION THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE LINERS AND CANNED REMARKS. I THINK SHE HAS DEMONSTRATED WHAT SHE HAS BEEN OUT, SPEAKING ELSEWHERE, THAT SHE CAN HOLD HER OWN RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF HER HEAD. >> HOW DOES TRUMP'S NAIL HARRIS DOWN? YOU ARE THE VICE PRESIDENT UNDER PRESIDENT BIDEN. YOU CANNOT RUN AWAY FROM THAT RECORD. >> I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE WHOLE GAME IF YOU WILL. IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS BECAUSE, HARRIS HAS DONE SEVERAL THINGS AND BY THE WAY, SHE HASN'T BEEN UNSCRIPTED AT ALL DURING THIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN. SHE WAS SCRIPTED IN THE BASH INTERVIEW AND WHEN SHE GOT OFF IT ALL FELL APART. SHE'S BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING TO EVERY SINGLE AUDIENCE SHE'S BEEN IN FRONT OF. SO WHEN SHE STARTS TO BRING UP THOSE THINGS ABOUT HOW SHE IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT ON DAY ONE SHE'S GOING TO FOCUS ON THE MIDDLE CLASS, THE OBVIOUS RESPONSE IS, WHY AREN'T YOU DOING THAT NOW? I'M GOING TO MAKE THE ECONOMY BETTER. WHY AREN'T YOU DOING THAT RIGHT NOW? AND WHEN KAMALA HARRIS SAYS THINGS LIKE PEOPLE ARE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THEIR GROCERY BILLS, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE HURTING, THEY NEED RELIEF. YOU ARE THE ONE THAT CAN FIX IT. THE PROBLEM IS SHE'S THE ONE WHO BROKE IT. SHE'S IN A WEIRD SPOT AND IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR HER TO GET OUT OF THAT. DONALD TRUMP'S HAS TO CONTINUE TO PIN HER DOWN ON THE FACT THAT WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FEEL RIGHT NOW, THE SADNESS, THE GRIEF, THE EXPENDITURES THAT THEY CAN AFFORD, THAT'S ALL BECAUSE OF SOMEONE WHO IS IN OFFICE RIGHT NOW AND THAT IS KAMALA HARRIS. HE HAS TO POINT THAT OUT. >> TARA, YOU ARE SHAKING YOUR HEAD. WHY. >> I'M SHAKING MY HEAD BECAUSE HE IS TELEGRAPHING EXACTLY WHAT TRUMP'S IS GOING TO DO AND I THINK THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS AN ANSWER FOR ALL OF THAT. THE ECONOMY WAS HORRIBLE UNDER TRUMP'S. UNEMPLOYMENT WAS SUPERHIGH UNDER TRUMP'S. WE HAVE LOW UNEMPLOYMENT NOW. PEOPLE ARE WORKING, WAGES ARE UP OF COURSE. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL HURTING, THAT'S THE CASE IN EVERY ECONOMY, GOOD OR BAD BUT I THINK SHE HAS A GREAT RECORD SHE CAN RUN ON. SHE HAS TO REMIND PEOPLE AND NOT LET TRUMP'S SORT OF SET THE NARRATIVE AROUND THESE THINGS. WHEN TRUMP'S WAS PRESIDENT, CRIME WAS SPIKING. BORDER CROSSINGS ARE AT THEIR LOWEST RIGHT NOW. SHE'S GOING TO POINT ALL OF THAT OUT AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE HEARING THE EVASIVE LINE OF ATTACK GOING TO BE DELIVERED AGAINST HER AND I THINK SHE HAS AN ANSWER FOR ALL OF THAT. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT SHE DOES. >> THE LOWEST IN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION BUT RECORD HIGH WIND THEY CAME INTO OFFICE. I DO WANT TO ASK YOU WHAT IS A GOOD NIGHT FOR HARRIS? DOES SHE HAVE TO BEAT DOWN DONALD TRUMP'S OR JUST SURVIVE? WHAT IS A WIN FOR HER? >> SHE HAS A BIG CHALLENGE. PEOPLE ARGUE THERE'S LOW EXPECTATIONS FOR TRUMP'S. THERE ZERO EXPECTATIONS FOR TRUMP'S AREA TRUMP'S GETS UP THERE, HE RAMBLES, HE'S INCOHERENT, HE ATTACKS, HE DEFLECTS, SO PEOPLE DON'T THINK , PARTICULARLY WITH THE MEDIA ABOUT HIM, SO I THINK THAT IS THE CHALLENGES DEALING WITH THE FACT THAT THE EXPECTATIONS FOR HER ARE GOING TO BE VERY HIGH WHILE THERE ARE ZERO EXPECTATIONS FOR TRUMP'S SO I THINK A GOOD NIGHT FOR HER IS TO MAKE THE CASE ON THE RECORD AND THEN PAINT A BIGGER PICTURE. >> HOGAN, REAL QUICK IT SEEMED THAT DEBATE -- WHEN HE REALIZED BIDEN WAS FALTERING HE TOOK -- AND TO BE FAIR I ACTUALLY THINK HE ACTUALLY KIND OF FELT SORRY FOR THE CURRENT PRESIDENT. WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN? BY THE END OF THE DEBATE IT WAS A DIFFERENT STORY BUT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE DEBATE, DO YOU THINK WE WILL SEE THAT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S VERSION? >> I LOVE SHE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE DEBATE STYLE OF DONALD TRUMP'S AND THAT WAS THE ONE THAT GOT JOE BIDEN OUT OF THE RACE, HE'S NO LONGER RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE OF THE -- HE TOOK ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. I THINK HE CAN BE DISCIPLINED AND HE WILL BE DISCIPLINED. THE THING IS, THE MEDIA HAS SET THE BAR EXTREMELY LOW FOR KAMALA HARRIS. THEY'VE BEEN THE ONES RUNNING STORIES THAT SHE SHOULD BE OFF THE TICKET THAT SHE IS A DRAG ON THE TICKET LOOKING FOR WAYS TO TAKE HER OFTEN PUT SOMEBODY IN AS VICE PRESIDENT WHEN JOE BIDEN STOOD AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET BUT THE FACT IS THIS IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO WO PEOPLE LOOKING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE RIGHT IN THE EYE AND SAYING LOOK, I HAVE A RECORD AS THE PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES, YOUR LIFE IS BETTER. SHE HAS A RECORD AS VICE PRESIDENT AND YOUR LIFE IS WORSE. IT'S AN EASY -- >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE. >>> WHEN WE COME BACK, DEFENSE OFFICIALS CONFIRMING -- TAKEN INTO CUSTODY LAST WEEK AS TENSIONS BETWEEN THE U.S. AND VENEZUELA INTENSIFY. THE DETAILS COMING IN. >>> DANGEROUS STREET TAKEOVERS IN L.A., CARS SET ON FIRE AND THE DEALERSHIP VANDALIZED. THE SEARCH TONIGHT FOR THOSE RESPONSIBLE. >>> AN UPDATE ON BOEINGS TROUBLED STARLINER SPACECRAFT THAT WILL RETURN BACK TO EARTH LATER THIS WEEK BUT WITHOUT THE ASTRONAUTS. WHY Boeing starliner set to leave ISS without crew >>> BACK NOW WITH NASA TRYING TO BRING BACK THE TROUBLED SPACECRAFT. TOM COSTELLO HAS A LOOK AT WHAT IS NEXT FOR STARLINER AND ITS CREW. >> Reporter: THREE MONTHS INTO WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A 10 DAY MISSION, ASTRONAUTS BUTCH WILMORE AND SONNY WILLIAMS ARE NOW PREPARING TO CLOSE THE HATCH AND SEND THE BOEING'S STARLINER HOME WITHOUT THEM. JUST AFTER 6:00 P.M. ON FRIDAY NASA WILL REMOTELY UNDOCK THE TROUBLED SPACESHIP FROM THE SPACE STATION THEN GUIDED BACK TO EARTH. AS WILLIAMS AND WILMORE SETTLE IN FOR ANOTHER FIVE MONTHS STAY ON THE STATION. >> THEY ARE VERY MUCH ENGAGED, ASKING QUESTIONS. I THINK THEY ARE HAPPY THAT THE DECISION WAS MADE AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE PLAN FORWARD. >> Reporter: STILL HAUNTED BY THE CHALLENGER AND COLUMBIA DISASTERS THAT KILLED 14 ASTRONAUTS, MISSION MANAGERS DECIDED LAST MONTH THEY WILL NOT RISK PUTTING WILLIAMS AND WILMORE ON A STARLINER WITH ENGINE THRUSTERS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY MALFUNCTION ON RE- ENTRY. >> NASA HAS DECIDED THAT BUTCH AND SUNI WILL RETURN WITH CREW NINE NEXT FEBRUARY. >> AND LIFT OFF. >> Reporter: THE SPACEX -- MISSION WILL LAUNCH LATER THIS MONTH WITH TWO ASTRONAUTS RATHER THAN FOUR WILLIAMS AND WILMORE WILL FILL THE EMPTY SEATS UNTIL THEN. UNTIL THEN THEY WILL CONTINUE WORKING AND DOING LONG-DURATION CARDIO AND STRENGTH EXERCISES. NASA INSISTS THE CREW IS NOT STUCK IN SPACE. SINCE THEY COULD RIDE THE STARLINER HOME IF THE STATION WERE IN DANGER. >> THEY WERE NEVER STUCK OR STRANDED. HE ALWAYS HAD A WAY TO DEPART THE SPACE STATION. >> THAT WOULD ONLY BE IF THE SPACE STATION HAD AN EMERGENCY. >> 170 METERS. >> Reporter: TO SEND STARLINER HOME WITHOUT THE ASTRONAUTS, NASA PLANS TO USE THE TROUBLED THRUSTERS TO GENTLY BACK AWAY FROM THE STATION TO AVOID CAUSING ANY DAMAGE. >> THAT'S TO TAKE THE STARLINER AWAY FROM STATION AND IMMEDIATELY START GOING UP AND AWAY. EVENTUALLY IT WILL CURVE AROUND TO THE TOP AND ABOVE STATION ORBIT. >> Reporter: IF ALL GOES WELL, STARLINER WILL LAND WITHOUT ITS CREW IN THE NEW MEXICO DESERT JUST AFTER 12:00 A.M. SATURDAY. >> TOM COSTELLO JOINS US NOW. OUR VIEWERS AT HOME WHO MAY BE FOLLOWING THIS STORY REMEMBER THE PULSING SOUND COMING FROM THE STARLINER THAT THEY COULDN'T IMMEDIATELY EXPLAIN. SOME CONSPIRACY THEORIST STARTED GOING WILD WITH THAT. LET'S TAKE A LISTEN AND CLEARED UP ON THE BACK END. IT DOES SOUND LIKE SOMETHING FROM THE MOVIE ALIEN. WHAT IS IT REALLY AND IS THERE CAUSE FOR ALARM? >> I DON'T THINK IT'S ALIENS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THERE ARE MULTIPLE SPACECRAFTS DOCKED TO THE SPACE STATION AND THEY ARE RUNNING MULTIPLE COMMS CHANNELS AND THAT CAN SOMETIMES CREATE FEEDBACK THAT GOES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE STATION AND THE SPACECRAFT, IN THIS CASE, STARLINER SO THEY WERE GETTING A FEEDBACK LOOP THROUGH THEIR SYSTEMS, MULTIPLE AUDIO CHANNELS AND IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT BUT EVEN NASA MISSION CONTROL WASN'T QUITE SURE AT FIRST WHAT IT WAS. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE OPTICS OF THIS. YOU COULD HAVE SPACEX BRING THEM HOME. I'VE GOT TO THINK THIS HAS GOT TO BE AN EMBARRASSMENT FOR BOEING. >> HUGE EMBARRASSMENT. BOEING HAS NOW LOST 1.6 BILLION DOLLARS ON ITS STARLINER PROGRAM. AS YOU KNOW IT IS YEARS BEHIND SCHEDULE AND BILLIONS OVER BUDGET AND NOW THEY'VE GOT TO TURN TO ELON MUSK'S SPACE X TO BRING THOSE ASTRONAUTS HOME IN FEBRUARY. NASA IS STILL COMMITTED TO THE STARLINER. IT NEEDS AN ALTERNATIVE TO SPACEX NOT JUST RELYING ON ONE SPACE SHIP. THE QUESTION IS, ONCE YOU FIX THIS PROBLEM, HOW SOON MIGHT BE CERTIFIED? THAT MAY BE ANOTHER YEAR AWAY NOW. >> TOM COSTELLO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT . >>> WE ARE BACK NOW HIS TOP STORIES NEWSFEED. WE START WITH THE U.S. SAILOR DETAINED IN VENEZUELA. DEFENSE OFFICIALS CONFIRMING TO NBC NEWS THE SAILOR WAS DETAINED LAST WEEK WHILE ON A PERSONAL TRIP TO THE COUNTRY. THE NAVY NOW WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT AS TENSIONS GROW BETWEEN THE U.S. AND VENEZUELA FOLLOWING A CONTESTED ELECTION AND AS WE REPORTED ON TOP STORY EARLIER THIS WEEK THE U.S. SEIZED ONE OF NICOLAS MADURO'S PLANES CLAIMING IT VIOLATED U.S. SANCTIONS. >>> A $300 MILLION LAWSUIT AFTER -- ACCUSED OF TAMPERING WITH I.V. DRIPS. THE NURSE ACCUSED OF REPLACING PRESCRIBED FENTANYL WITH NONSTERILE TAP WATER IN I.V.s LEADING TO BACTERIAL INFECTIONS. AMONG THE 18 PLAINTIFFS, NINE ARE -- WHO DIED. THE NURSE HAS PLEADED NOT GUILTY. >>> IN SOUTH L.A., STREET TAKEOVERS ENDING WITH TORCHED CARS AND VANDALISM'S. DONUTS IN AN INTERSECTION. HOURS LATER, ANOTHER STREET TAKEOVERS IN ANOTHER PART OF L.A. ENDED WITH ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS CARS SET ABLAZE. TRAFFIC SNARLED AS CREWS TRIED TO PUT OUT THE FLAMES. SO FAR NO ARRESTS HAVE BEEN MADE. >>> NOW TO POWER AND POLITICS AND A LOOK AT HOW THE YOUNGEST NBC News poll: Gen Z concerned about cost of living VOTERS IN THE NATION ARE FEELING ABOUT NOVEMBER. GENERATION Z WEIGHING IN ON THE ISSUES THAT MEAN THE MOST OF THEM AS THEY PREPARE TO VOTE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. SAVANNAH SELLERS HAS THAT STORY. >> I'M VERY PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. >> Reporter: 21-YEAR-OLD UNIVERSITY STUDENT ASHLEY SAID WHEN VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS ENTERED THE RACE IT CHANGE THE GAME FOR HER AND MANY OTHER YOUNG VOTERS. I'M HEARING, I'M EXCITED TO CAST MY VOTE. I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT -- >> Reporter: TONIGHT A FIRST OF ITS KIND NBC NEWS STATEMENT POLL OF 18 TO 29-YEAR-OLD'S SHOWED HARRIS LEADING. 50% SAID THEY FAVOR HARRIS WHILE 34% SAID THEY FAVOR TRUMP'S. AT NEARBY STATE UNIVERSITY, 21 YEAR-OLD GRAYSON SAID HE'S HAVING TROUBLE MAKING ENDS MEET. HE SAYS TRUMP'S IS THE ONE WHO CAN FIX THAT. >> WE NEED HELP. >> Reporter: WHEN YOU SAY YOU ARE STRUGGLING, WHAT THINGS FEEL TOUGH? >> GROCERY SHOPPING FOR SURE. AT THE GROCERY STORE, PICKING UP THE OFFBRAND ITEMS. >> Reporter: IN THE POLL, 31% SAID COST OF LIVING IS WHAT MATTERED MOST IN THIS ELECTION WITH 68% SAYING THEY'VE DELAYED IMPORTANT LIFE MILESTONES LIKE BUYING A CAR OR HOME DUE TO DEBT. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT -- BEING ABLE TO BE A HOMEOWNER? >> I'M WORRIED. I DON'T FEEL THAT -- BE ABLE TO AFFORD A HOME OR OWN ONE. >> Reporter: AS FOR THE VP PICK, -- SAID THEY VIEWED MINNESOTA GOVERNOR TIM WALZ AS A POSITIVE CHOICE. >> I THINK HE IS A GREAT PICK FOR HARRIS. HE'S GOT SMALL-TOWN VIBES THAT DO APPEAL TO A LOT OF VOTERS. >> Reporter: 32% SAID THEY HAD A POSITIVE OPINION OF JD VANCE. AS YOU SEE HIM INTERACTING WITH EVERYDAY PEOPLE, IT'S A LITTLE AWKWARD, WEIRD. I THINK WHEN HE SPEAKS TO PEOPLE YOU CAN SEE IT. >> Reporter: ONE AREA OF AGREEMENT? SETTING A MAXIMUM AGE LIMIT ON WHO CAN RUN FOR PRESIDENT. 73% IN THE POLLS SHARE THAT OPINION. >> DO I WANT MY GRANDMOTHER TO BE IN OFFICE RUNNING THE COUNTRY AS A 78-YEAR-OLD? ABSOLUTELY NOT. SHE SHOULD BE AT THE BEACH HAVING FUN. BAKING COOKIES FOR HER GRANDKIDS. >> Reporter: THEY ALSO SHARE A COMMITMENT FOR VOTING IN NOVEMBER KNOWING THE ELECTIONS COULD COME DOWN TO GEORGIA. >> I WEAR IT AS A BADGE OF HONOR TO BE IN THIS STATE -- MOBILIZING AN ESTATE THAT IS SUCH A BATTLEGROUND STATE LIKE GEORGIA. ALL EYES ARE ON GEORGIA AGAIN. >> SAVANNAH JOINS US NOW IN STUDIO. YOU SPOKE WITH ALL THESE YOUNG VOTERS AND FOR YOU, THIS WAS MY TAKE AWAY, WITH THESE GEN Z VOTERS, ARE THEY ESSENTIALLY LOOKING AT HARRIS AND WILLING TO VOTE FOR HER JUST BECAUSE SHE'S DIFFERENT FROM JOE BIDEN AND TRUMP'S ? ESSENTIALLY A DIFFERENT PERSON AND YOUNGER? >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL I WILL SAY IN TERMS OF THE EXCITEMENT BETWEEN BIDEN AND WHEN IT SWITCHES OVER TO HARRIS AS THE NOMINEE, THAT EXCITEMENT IS HUGE AND IT IS A MARKED CHANGE. EVEN ALL THE YOUNG DEMOCRATS I SPOKE WITH SAID I FEEL ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS RACE NOW THAT HARRIS IS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. >> HER POLITICS MAY BE THE SAME AS JOE BIDEN'S? >> YES AND SOME PEOPLE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. THEY SAY IT FEELS LIKE AN EXTENSION FROM THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT HER NOT BEING THAT OLD THAT FEELS LIKE -- I KEPT HEARING FRESH FACE AND NEW FRONTIER FROM SOME PEOPLE. SUDDENLY AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY SAID THEY WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF AN AGE MAXIMUM LIMIT OF SOMEBODY GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT. THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN FOR THEM AND WHEN YOU COMPARE DONALD TRUMP'S WHO IS UP THERE IN AGE WITH HARRIS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ON THEIR MINDS EVEN THOUGH BIDEN IS NO LONGER THE NOMINEE. >> I DO WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON FOR OUR VIEWERS. THIS IS WHERE YOUNG VOTERS HAVE BEEN OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF ELECTIONS. THIS IS 2008 TO 2020. VOTERS IN THE 18 TO 24-YEAR-OLD RANGE IN THE VOTING, 44 TO 48, JUST UNDER HALF IN THE LAST ELECTION. YOU WERE TELLING ME YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER OR PEOPLE YOU WERE TALKING TO COULD BE CLOSER TO 70. IT TURNS OUT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS TURN OUT. WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS DIFFERENT? >> THEY MAKE UP SUCH A LARGE PORTION OF THE ELECTORATE. PEOPLE WHO WILL NOW BE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE THIS YEAR IN THAT GENERATION, ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK IS NOT DISSIMILAR TO OTHER GENERATIONS, THE ECONOMY AND COST OF LIVING MATTER SO MUCH TO THIS GENERATION AND THEY ARE TELLING ME IT FEELS SO BAD RIGHT NOW. GROCERIES COST SO MUCH. I SPOKE WITH A REPUBLICAN VOTER WHO IS CHANGING APARTMENTS, MOVING INTO A SMALLER ONE SO THAT IT'S CHEAPER. PICKING UP EXTRA SHIFTS AT WORK. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS YOUNG PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY COLLEGE PEOPLE REALLY FEEL. I CAN BARELY PAY RENT. I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR A JOB. I GO TO SCHOOL ALL DAY. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF YOUNG DEMOCRATS SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND A LOT OF MY FRIENDS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ECONOMY, I'M WORRIED THAT COULD MAKE THEM VOTE FOR TRUMP'S INSTEAD BECAUSE OF HOW HE HISTORICALLY HANDLED THE ECONOMY. >>> COMING UP, THE DOCTOR IS OUT. AMERICAN STRUGGLING TO GET DOCTORS APPOINTM Patients struggle to secure healthcare appointments >>> WE ARE BACK NOW WITH GROWING CONCERN AS WE HAD TOWARD FLU SEASON. PATIENTS INCREASINGLY STRUGGLING TO GET AN APPOINTMENT WITH A HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL. SURVEY IN PORTLAND OREGON FINDING THE NEW AVERAGE PATIENT WAIT TIME IS FOUR TO SIX DAYS AND PATIENTS AND OTHER MAJOR CITIES SAY IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO WAIT A MONTH OR MORE TO BE SEEN. MORGAN CHESKY TAKES A CLOSER LOOK. >> Reporter: IT SEEMS THESE DAYS TRYING TO GET AN APPOINTMENT WITH A HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL HAS BECOME INCREASINGLY CHALLENGING. MANY PATIENTS WAITING DAYS, WEEKS OR EVEN MONTHS TO BE SEEN. >> I LIVE IN A BIG CITY. I CAN'T GET IN FOR A MONTH. >> THEY ARE LIKE NO, SORRY, WE ARE JUST TWO MONTHS IN ADVANCE. >> Reporter: THE NUMBERS SHOW IT'S BECOMING A MORE COMMON OCCURRENCE NATIONWIDE. ONE STUDY FOUND A THIRD OF PATIENTS SAY THEY'VE BEEN UNABLE TO SEE A DOCTOR IN THE PAST YEAR DUE TO AVAILABILITY ISSUES. AND FOR THOSE WHO WERE ABLE TO GET AN APPOINTMENT, ONE IN FIVE PATIENTS HAD TO WAIT ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO THE THREE MONTHS TO BE SEEN. >> IT'S INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING. >> Reporter: 126-YEAR-OLD VICTORIA HOLMES FACED A FOUR MONTH WAIT FOR A NEUROLOGY APPOINTMENT IN WASHINGTON, D.C. WHERE SHE LIVES, SHE SOUGHT TREATMENT IN HER HOMETOWN OF DALLAS TEXAS. >> I HAVE TO -- GOING HOME TO DALLAS JUST TO SEE A NEUROLOGIST BECAUSE I'M TERRIFIED THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME. >> Reporter: MAJOR FRUSTRATIONS FROM PATIENTS AND DOCTORS. >> WE ALL BECAME PHYSICIANS TO TAKE CARE OF PATIENTS AND THAT'S BECOMING TOUGHER EVERY DAY. >> Reporter: DR. BRUCE SCOTT IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION AND PHYSICIAN IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. >> RIGHT NOW THINGS ARE AT -- LEVELS AND PHYSICIANS ARE CLOSING THEIR PRACTICES. >> Reporter: MEDICAL OFFICIALS SAY IT'S A RESULT OF A GROWING POPULATION NEEDING HEALTHCARE ALONG WITH AN AGING PHYSICIAN WORKFORCE THAT'S BURNING OUT DO IN PART TO TIME-CONSUMING PEOPLE WORK FROM INSURANCE COMPANIES AND REDUCED PHYSICIAN REIMBURSEMENT. SOME DOCTORS ARE NOW TURNING TO CONCIERGE SERVICES TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS THEY SEE, CHARGING HUNDREDS OR EVEN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR CARE. OTHERS ARE PASSING AT THE STRATA FEES ONTO PATIENTS. FORCING MANY TO FIND NEW DOCTORS. >> I THINK WE ARE FACING A WORSENING PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES. MAC MORGAN CHESKY, NBC NEWS. >> FOR MORE ON THESE FRUSTRATIONS FOR PATIENTS AND DOCTORS, NBC NEWS MEDICAL CONTRIBUTOR DR. JOHN TORRES JOINS NBC NEWS NOW. JUST LIKE 1 MILLION OTHER AMERICANS I'M DEALING WITH THIS AS WELL. I TRIED TO GET A NEW DOCTOR AND THEY TOLD ME TO WAIT UNTIL FEBRUARY WHICH IS CRAZY. THERE HAS TO BE A MOMENT IN TIME WHEN THIS ALL CHANGED. WHAT HAS HAPPENED? IT WASN'T LIKE THIS YEARS AGO. >> EXACTLY. IT WASN'T LIKE THIS YEARS AGO AND A FEW DECADES AGO REMEMBER YOU COULD SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH DOCTORS, OFTEN THEY CAME TO YOUR HOUSE TO TAKE CARE OF YOU. THAT'S NOT THE CASE ANYMORE. IT'S BEEN A GRADUAL CHANGE ACCELERATED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. PATIENTS GETTING OLDER, SICKER, HAVING MORE ISSUES AND WE HAVE MORE MEDICINES WE CAN DOLE OUT TOO SO IT'S BECOMING MORE COMPLICATED AND ALL THAT IS ADDING TWO MORE TIME AND MORE WEIGHTS. >> THE GROWING POPULATION THAT NEEDS HEALTHCARE AND AGING -- TIME-CONSUMING PAPERWORK FROM INSURANCE COMPANIES AND REDUCED PHYSICIAN REIMBURSEMENT. ULTIMATELY IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY? I REALLY WANT TO HIT TO THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM FOR OUR VIEWERS . >> AS A DOCTOR I'M GOING TO SAY YES. >> BUT DID THIS ALL START WITH THE INFORMAL CARE ACT? WITH OBAMACARE? OR IS THIS INSURANCE COMPANIES IN GENERAL? >> THIS IS BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE. DOCTORS ALL SAY THE SAME THING. I SPEND MORE TIME ON PAPERWORK THAN ON PAPER -- PATIENT CARE. THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE SYSTEM SHOULD BE. IT SHOULD BE THE DOCTOR AND THE PATIENT IN THE ROOM MAKING THE DECISION BUT BECAUSE OF REGULATIONS, GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS AND A LOT OF THINGS -- >> WHEN DID THAT CHANGE? >> IN THE LAST COUPLE DECADES THIS GRADUAL INCREASE IN THE OVERSIGHT, GRADUAL INCREASE ON THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO GET PAID FOR THAT BUSINESS AND A GRADUAL CHANGE IN WHAT PATIENTS HAVE TO DO SO YOU HAVE TO GET PREAPPROVAL WHICH TAKES A LONG TIME AND OFTEN ARE DENIED. YOU HAVE TO GET CERTAIN THINGS CHECKED OFF, CERTAIN THINGS LISTED, CERTAIN THINGS DONE ON THE HEALTH RECORD RIGHT NOW AND NOW THERE'S ELECTRONICS HEALTH RECORDS BECOME EVEN MORE COMPLICATED SO IT TAKES EVEN LONGER TO DO. >> REIMBURSEMENT IS ALSO AN ISSUE, RIGHT? YOU'RE WORKING MORE AND GETTING PAID LESS. DOES THAT MEAN DOCTORS ARE OVERBOOKING? THERE'S ALL THESE PATIENTS THAT COME IN NOW AND IT TAKES FOREVER TO BE SEEN AND ALSO IT'S LIKE FIVE MINUTES, IN AND OUT . >> DOCTORS ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME IN A DAY AND OFTEN DICTATE WHAT -- THE 15 TO 30 MINUTES YOU SEE, THAT'S NOT THE DOCTORS CHOICE. THEY WANT TO SEE YOU FOR ENOUGH TIME AND TAKE CARE OF YOU WHATEVER THE NEEDS ARE BUT OFTEN THE SYSTEM THEY ARE WORKING WITH OR THE SYSTEM THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH SO DOCTORS DO HAVE TO GET THROUGH A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PATIENTS IN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD WHICH MEANS THE VISIT IS RUSHED. >> I WANT TO PULL UP A STAT FOR OUR VIEWERS HEAR FROM THE PATIENT INSURANCE STANDPOINT. NEARLY 304 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE U.S. HAD SOME KIND OF HEALTH INSURANCE, RIGHT? WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FROM AROUND 257 MILLION PEOPLE INSURED IN 2010. THESE APPOINT CHANGES HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT SORT OF INSURANCE PROBLEM AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE SOLUTION? DO WE NEED MORE DOCTORS? >> THE FLIP OF THAT, I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS, WE ARE GETTING A THREE-TIERED SYSTEM HERE. WE ARE GETTING THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE MONEY IN CONCIERGE MEDICINE OR THEY CAN GET THE BUSINESS EARLIER BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PRIVATE AND GOVERNMENT-SPONSORED INSURANCE WHERE THEY ARE KIND OF SECOND-TIER AND THEY GET WHAT THEY CAN APPOINTMENT WISE AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE THOSE 15 MINUTE VISITS AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU GET THAT ONE GROUP THAT SIMPLY DOESN'T GO TO SEE DOCTORS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR THE INSURANCE SO THE SOLUTION HERE IS MULTI FACTOR. ONE WE DEFINITELY NEED MORE DOCTORS ESPECIALLY PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS. THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING SHORTAGE. BUT ALSO YOU NEED TO GET BACK TO THE PATIENT AND THE DOCTOR IN THE ROOM MAKING THE DECISION AND DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO MAKING SURE THE PATIENT IS TAKEN CARE OF AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BUT THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. >> HOW DO YOU GET MORE DOCTORS? >> YOU HAVE TO START IN THE MEDICAL SYSTEM AND START EARLY ON. NUMBER ONE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GO INTO MEDICINE. NOT AS MANY PEOPLE WANT TO GO ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAME AS IT WAS. >> I'VE HEARD THAT FROM YOUNG PEOPLE. IS IT BECAUSE MEDICAL SCHOOLS ARE STILL TOO EXPENSIVE? IS IT TOO LONG OF A PROCESS? YOU WANT THEM TO GET THE TRAINING. >> PART OF IT IS, THEY GO INTO IT BECAUSE IT'S A CALLING AND NO ONE GOES INTO MEDICINE BECAUSE IT'S EASY OR IT SEEMS LIKE A FUN THING TO DO. IT'S A LONG JOURNEY TO GET THROUGH IT SO IT'S A CALLING FOR PEOPLE. OFTENTIMES NOWADAYS UNFORTUNATELY THEY GIVE OUT AND THAT CALLING HAS -- A LITTLE BIT AND THERE IS THE VITRIOL YOU KIND OF SEE AGAINST DOCTORS SOMETIMES -- >> WHY DO YOU THINK THAT'S HAPPENING? I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS HAPPENING EVEN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, IT WAS A DOCTOR. YOU KNOW, NOT THAT THERE IS NOT THAT REVERENCE AND RESPECT NOWADAYS FROM MY GENERATION BUT IT DEFINITELY HAS CHANGED. WHY? I FELT THAT WAS HAPPENING EVEN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. >> DOCTORS ARE ALWAYS TAUGHT THIS SHOULD BE A TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION AND DOCTORS ARE NOT ALWAYS THE BEST COMMUNICATORS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, SO THOSE ARE THE PHYSICIANS LIKE I AM WHERE YOU HAVE A PLATFORM AND CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO TALK TO PEOPLE. YOU LEARN HOW TO COMMUNICATE AND GET THE ANSWERS OUT THERE AND GET THE DIALOGUE GOING. IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN. OFTEN PEOPLE ARE SITTING THERE GOING WHY SHOULD I TAKE THIS MEDICINE? WHY SHOULD I TAKE THIS VACCINE? WHY SHOULD I DO DIFFERENT THINGS WHEN I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS AND IT'S HARD TO GET THAT SCIENCE ACROSS AND TO UNDERSTAND SO COMMUNICATION IS DEFINITELY PART OF THE PROBLEM HERE BUT ON TOP OF THAT IT'S JUST THE WAY SOCIETY IS TURNED OUT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS JUST GOING AGAINST AUTHORITY FIGURES AND FIGURES WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP THEM OUT. >> ACCORDING TO THE URGENT CARE ASSOCIATION WE HAVE SOME VIDEO ON THIS. THERE'S MORE THAN 14,000 URGENT CARE -- IN THE U.S. THE POPULATION LIVES WITHIN A 10 MINUTE DRIVE OF ONE. WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON P.A.S OFTEN SEEING PATIENTS -- BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET A DOCTORS APPOINTMENT? >> I THINK THEY ARE A GREAT TOOL AND NEED TO BE IN THERE STILL TO TAKE CARE OF PATIENTS BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU CAN'T CORRECT THE OVERALL WELL-BEING OF A PATIENT AND THAT MEANS GETTING BACK THAT PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR WHO IS THE GATEKEEPER AND SEEING, I SEE YOU WENT TO URGENT CARE THREE MONTHS AGO. LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR VISIT. WHERE DO YOU NEED TO GO FROM HERE? NOW I THINK YOU NEED TO SEE A SPECIALIST WHERE I CAN HANDLE IT HERE IN MY OFFICE. HAVING THAT PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN CAN EMPHASIZE HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS AND CERTAINLY THE URGENT CARES ARE GOOD BREAK >> THANK YOU FOR WATCHIN

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