well that was 90 minutes we'll never get back truly a a difficult night um I think for president Trump kamla Harris accomplished I believe what she needed to accomplish which was just essentially having a pulse right showing that she is at least capable of giving an answer even if it wasn't ever a particularly competent one or to any question that was actually asked of her uh whereas you know we needed to see Donald Trump take on it was obviously horribly moderated perhaps the moderated debate in history but we needed to see that 2016 magic when Anderson Cooper tried to pull that same sort of stunt on Donald Trump in one of his debates with Hillary Clinton and and Trump took on all comers here he was fact checked maybe on 50% of the questions that he was asked he never once even when they lied and they lied exp lied he never once challenged them uh on on the whole I think a pretty difficult night so here's my take on this particular debate we're going to talk about a lot today we'll talk about a lot tomorrow and a we from now it's not going to matter at all and the reason it's not going to matter at all is because nothing fundamentally changed here the people of America still don't know K Harris Donald Trump has not done his job in making sure that the people of America actually know anything about her positions 30% of Americans say they don't know anything about her positions and they still don't know anything about her positions because the moderators never pressed her on any of her positions and Donald Trump didn't either on Donald Trump's side of the aisle Donald Trump did not perform tonight he didn't do an amazing job calling her on her BS the best thing he said all night was his closing statement which is what he should have opened with he closed with why didn't you do it that should have been the very first thing he said in the debate and the fact that that wasn't what he said right off the top was a mistake he was also incredibly distractable tonight he took the bait on nearly every question every time she said something that you knew was going to get his goat he just let it happen so for example when she gave him the bait on his crowd sizes on on people are leaving your crowds they're leaving your alleys he couldn't resist going after her about the crowd size what about January 6th about the election of 2020 these are all distractions the only thing that mattered tonight for Donald Trump was defining her and he did not Define her which means that I still checked the calendar was all a couple months till the election she is going to have to be defined the big takeaway from this is not going to be about Trump who Still Remains Trump it's really not going to be about Harris who performed the best I think it's possible for KLA Harris to perform which is to say she was fairly obnoxious she lied a lot she said a lot of things that were untrue she she was never called on any of that the big takeaway is going to be the continued destruction of the Legacy Media on behalf of the democratic party the Legacy Media have decided full scale they are now apparat of the democratic party they are so far up kamla Harris's ass that they're doing active colonoscopies with their eyeballs it's unbelievable watching David M ask questions to Donald Trump like why are you so bad in Orange and mean and then turning to KLA Harris and saying and why is he so bad and orange and mean it's absolutely insipid and totally insane the media tonight were beyond the worst expectations that I had for them I thought that they were going to do like a Baseline creditable job because CNN did Jake Tapper and zanab Bash they actually did that in the last debate they actually asked questions and let people answer them David M became an active participant in this debate lindsy Davis became an active participant in the debate and then they never once fact check Kam Harris who lied over and over and over she lied she said for example that Donald Trump was a backro project 2025 a lie she said that Donald Trump said there were very fine people on both sides of the Charlottesville riots including the neo-nazis that is a lie it's been debunked repeatedly they did not say that that was a lie Li she said that he had said that he was going to unleash a blood bath on the country if he lost that's a fulls scale lie they never fact check a single thing that she did the entire night and actually that helps Trump and it helps Trump for a very simple reason if you are a trump fan and if you think that Trump didn't actually perform unbelievably well tonight which I think is true I don't think he did an amazing job tonight the easy out is yeah because the media were targeting him and if you're a moderate watching this I think that it had to be apparent even to moderates even to Independents the media want kamla Harris elected they are doing their best to make sure that KLA Harris is elected and so tomorrow we'll revert right back to where we were before this debate we'll revert right back to KLA Harris is Vibes and she is joy and she is policy vager and she'll never answer another question she's going to try and get all the way from here to the election without ever answering another question there will be no more debates she's going to declare that she won the media will declare that she won and that Trump lost Trump really has no interest in doing another debate because I I frankly don't think that it's in his interest to do another debate at this point so that was the last presidential debate of this election cycle the bottom line is that when when all is said and done it seems like a lot of this is baked into the cake and in the moment it's uncomfortable because it was such an opportunity you if you're if you're like me and you're sitting there you're like leaping out of your seat why won't he just say it why won't he just say it it's very frustrating she will say something about how race shouldn't divide us and you're sitting there going what the actual living like you are a case in point of a person who divides based on race it's what you do for a living it's how you became vice president of the United States she will say things about Afghanistan they'll ask her about whether she has any regrets and she'll say no and instead of him coming back and saying don't you regret the 13 dead American soldiers whose families you ignored yeah you're just waiting for him to take the opening but the problem was that he had been set off earlier in the debate he was incredibly distractable he was following every squirrel down every particular Rabbit Hole again the best moment I thought of the debate for Donald Trump was that closing statement where he finally laid out the big question if you say you have all these big plans why don't you do any of those things but in the final analysis I can be pissed at the media I can feel discomfort with how the debate went tonight this is still a tight raise it's not going to become a not tight raise because of this particular debate which means that tomorrow Donald Trump better get up and he better decide that he's going to do for the rest of the campaign the thing he didn't do tonight Define her Define her positions it can't just left JD Vance by the way is doing an excellent job of this JD's doing a great job of this Trump needs to do it he needs to actually do it if he does that he can still win the race and he still has the upper hand but this debate was a I I'll say it was a blown opportunity at the at the very least I I think the that part of it is I I seriously agree with you I think the two things that Trump did accomplish was he got ganged up on which obviously he didn't do but I think that was really important I think the you we do not see we do not see how far the media has fallen in the eyes of the American public the fact that after that DNC that ecstatic loving that love Fest of the DNC Camala Harris didn't get a bump is telling us something about what the American public is thinking about the media they are watching the media they get it they've seen it all the stuff we all have been talking about all these years I think that the people whose minds are open now can see it so that was good for Trump I agree that Trump could have ended her she was so she was better way better prepared than she's ever been but only as well prepared as I thought she was going to be I thought she did a did the job that she had to do and he could have ended her and that's disappointing but he didn't attack her personally and he did say I don't agree that look I when he goes off the line and he chases the squirrel and he does when his ego gets involved it's always really frustrating because you want him to stick to his his script but he didn't do it throughout the debate and for the first 30 minutes I'd say which is the most important part of any debate he actually stayed on track and said the things that he had to say they were not as powerful as they would have been had you been saying them they weren't as powerful as they would have been if somebody with somebody who could keep from Rambling as much as he does he was his usual self but a little better that's what I would say about Donald Trump and that's frustrating because it would have been great if he had actually done what we wanted him to do I think you're right that this is not going to change the the debate because of the bad behavior of ABC and because the people see this but you know I W I wish he'd endit her too but at the same time I think that if I had to say over the time we've got left what the impression is going to be it's that the media can't be trusted and she is running a media campaign a completely con constructed campaign I I don't think that's going to get us we need to go but I think it's going to be exactly as you say we're going to stay on track where we are now I think Trump's leading I think he's leading more than the poll say remember their polls are better than our polls the ones that we see and I think he's leading more than they say and I think he's got a serious chance this certainly did not uh destroy that in any sorry go ahead mat I'll just say that I think the uh the good thing for Trump is that there was not a meltdown moment there wasn't one thing that'll get clipped I mean a lot of things will get clipped but but he didn't I was poor performance but there was not one iconic like meltdown moment for uh for him kamla I I agree with what's been said so far I think she did as well as we could possibly expect her to do she also didn't have a great moment I mean the media will try to manufacture a moment out of it she didn't have one but well really she had one the moment of the debate if there was one I think was uh was when she baited him on the rallies and when she said that they leave the rallies early cuz they're bored obviously they plan to say that for only one reason and not because that part is compelling to the the voters we don't care about that uh if Trump's rallies are boring or not we don't care but she she knew that that Trump just cannot stand that that you're getting him right where it hurts the most the idea that his rallies are boring is just you you you are stabbing him right in the gut with that and I think he responded to that by rambling and getting very defensive and from my read of it I think he never quite recovered from that he got he was more visibly angry throughout the whole rest of the debate his tone was was angrier he was a little bit off off kilter I don't think he ever got quite back to it um but it was kind of spread out throughout the debate so it doesn't so I think that because there's not the one moment that will just be repeated it wasn't like with Biden when there was the couple of moments of him not being able to speak drooling that didn't happen it means that probably 2 three days from now nobody's talking about this debate and you could say that even even though Trump performed relatively poorly um if no one's talking about it three days from now then it's kind of a tie effectively yeah and does a tie go to the to Trump on this one if he's sort of in the lead that was thank God she didn't attack his golf scores yeah of course right that' be the rest of the night Uh I that was the moment when it shifted so I would say Trump trump won pretty decisively the first 20 maybe 25 minutes uh she was visibly nervous her voice was shaking she physically she might have been shaking she was repeating wrote answers that had nothing to do with the question and were obnoxiously irrelevant to the question so he was winning uh she shook him up uh that was when I felt it was gracious of the moderators to allow her to try to debate for the first 20 minutes and then they decided no we're going to step in and it was more egregious than Candy Crowley in 2012 it was the most egregious I've ever seen a complete disgrace to for David mure and that other lady L Davis lindsy Davis what a clown show a complete disgrace uh he he won the closing statement he that was a very strong closing statement hers was was fine but it was are you okay are you okay I have a question do you want that from your government do you want your government coming to be like are you okay how like not when you're talking to me I'm not like go away the biggest takeaway for me and it somehow it had not occurred to me until that moment when she shook him up on the crowd sizes kamla Harris's superpower is that she's quite good at manipulating men and I don't mean that as a cheap shot or a provocation she started political career by manipulating a married man Willie Brown in San Francisco much has been said about that that's how she got her start she became vice president she couldn't win one delegate in in the 2020 primary but she became president because she baited Joe Biden on that debate stage she called him a racist she accused him of being the reason she wouldn't be allowed to be busted to school and she put him in a position where he had to pick a black woman for VP and she was the only one that he could have picked and then she she laid out that trap for Trump uh with with the question about crowd sizes she is not great at retail she's not good at speaking to people she doesn't know a damn thing about policy she doesn't have a platform but she's pretty good at manipulating individual men and especially when she was backed up with the full weight of ABC News it it allowed her to make up for her deficiencies and land basically at a draw we're we're so good so easy to manipulate right I think that it would be true that a TI I think it is true that a TI goes uh to the who's ahead I'm not sure that I agree that Donald Trump is ahead I don't think that the polls have yet reflected that Donald Trump is ahead although certainly her momentum has Abad and he has the opportunity but he isn't taking the opportunity and I think the thing I disagree with you the most about Drew is this idea that everyone sees through the media you know I think Gallup released a poll two weeks ago that said Democrat trust in the media is actually precipitously Rising they they're I'm talking about the people who are going to decide the election yeah well don't the people who are going to decide the election are not Republicans no they're Independents yes yeah and and the question is also going to be how many Democrats show up so I think the big advantage that Trump had against Biden is that Democrats weren't showing up to the polls right they were so depressed that they weren't going to show up they're not going to have a turn out problem I I think that that after after the performance that she gave tonight Democrats are in a good mood you can see they're in a good mood they're going to be in a good mood you're going to get a lot more Vibes it's going to be Vibes up the wazu for the next couple of weeks and and this is where I'm you know at a certain point it becomes almost criminal politically to miss as many opportunities as president Trump is currently missing yes it is his job not to miss the opportunities and listen we got two months to go maybe he starts hitting the opportunities that's the thing you want but since he since Biden was swapped out for the the brand new code of pains on the broken up jalap masquerading as a Lamborghini since that happened he has not found his footing in terms of actually doing his job which is to Define her in the mind of the American public and he had every opportunity to do that tonight and he didn't take any of them he at the very beginning the very first question right out the gate right out the gate for her was are you better off economically than you were four years ago now his answer should he should not even listen to her answer he should not even listen he should as soon as they come back to him as soon as he realizes what she's doing which is she's now going to avoid the question which she did just started wandering all over the landscape in search of an idea for the next two minutes as soon as they came back to me you should have said you know what I noticed I noticed you didn't answer that very simple question because it has a very simple answer of course you're not better off than you were four years ago you've done a terrible job Joe Biden has done a terrible job you're the current president of the United States and then he should have dumped in what he said at the at the end you have all these big plans to change the country where are you why don't you go do them right now I notice you've done none of them right I mean like in the first five minutes this debate could have been over and that's the part that really GS me that's sticks in my craw I have to interrupt you here because I owe our sponsors to tell people about owing things more than 3ars of Americans have some kind of debt things like credit cards personal loans medical bills it's a terrible feeling but you 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attention watching the debate all the way through see those things you have to tell people you know the biggest lie told uh I think in the history of Hollywood was told by uh the dearly departed James Earl Jones if you build it they will come he he didn't actually say it script the script that's a lie you have to tell people about it before they will come and Donald Trump needed to every single time that he was interrupted or fact checked or corrected uh or essentially debated by the moderator he needed to point that fact out because you need those sound bites you need to empower your team to be able to make the Montage to show again and again and again what's happening I think that's the biggest missed opportunity of the night it's it's not the opportunity to frame kamla although that is a Miss it's the opportunity to frame whom who his actual opponent is you which is know this is this is absolutely true and one of the things about Trump that's different is he's being a little bit more restrained that has its good side but the bad side is the the Press is his enemy and the enemy of people should be saying it obviously told him within the campaign don't hit the Press cuz it's hiso to hit the Press I don't want to gloss over though the the lie that they told that they they didn't fact check all sorts of lies from Kamala but but when Trump pointed out that there are prominent Democrats and there are states in this country where babies are killed after birth and Lindsey Davis came out and said that is not true there is no state where this is happening not only is that a lie but KLA Harris's own running mate Tim walles repealed protections for babies who surv surv abortions in the state of Minnesota by surviv abortion in this instance means are born are born so they try to kill the baby the baby is born there are legal Protections in some states that say if the baby's born you have to provide medical care as you would to any other human being and Tim Walls Within the last two years repealed the those legal protections that is kamala's own running mate it is the most egregious light it blows Candy Crowley 2012 out you know how you know how they get around that though because what in that case what they do is they put the baby to the side and leave the baby to just die they don't directly kill the baby and so that's that's like the game they're playing well if you just leave a child to die you're not killing which which Trump you know I mean it would be a great thing to point out I will say that on the abortion question that was Trump I thought had one really great moment and it was actually one of the best moments I've ever seen from a Republican presidential candidate I agree because I've never seen a republic I've been screaming forever I want some Republican in a debate to do this it's never happened once that I can remember and Trump did it he turned to her and said okay we've talked about the extreme cases would you support abortion in at seven months totally agree was and she didn't she didn't answer it and she kind of and she pivoted back to him so he he should have stayed there for longer but that was a brilliant moment and that's exactly what Republicans should be doing on this I think in in our disappointment that he didn't just Steamroller as she welld deserved I think we did miss a a bunch of moments like that that was the best that was definitely the best I've always me too always waited for somebody to say what's the date when you're ready to stop but he did a lot of a lot of good things on uh immigration he did a lot of good things on the economy you know he wasn't he wasn't bad it was just that you you sit here and you can see from the outside that a guy with real debate skills which he has never had could have just swept her away so you're disappointed but you also in being disappointed you miss some of the good things you really did in sort of weird way there's you know what you feel right after you watch the debate and then there's what you feel in the 24 hours after the debate because almost two separate processes now the internet has changed the way that people watch debates so I'll be curious to see who watched this thing you know Soup To Nuts the way that we just did when you when you watch the whole thing the reason that those things disappear is because he will get in the punch but it's in the middle of a long rambling thing about a bunch of other things right the thing you said is he he actually said it clearly and concisely that's I think one of the most clear concise moments he had the entire debate but he he would throw a punch and for a moment you'd be like that's a good punch but it was in the middle of kind of mush and so because it's very hard to listen to Charlie Brown's teacher you know at you like when he finally throws the punch sometimes it gets Lost in Translation however this is what the internet is made for so half the stuff that he says that's sort of memeable will be memd within an hour and so when we look at the internet two hours from now there's G to be a bunch of moments where you're like oh I I forgot that Donald Trump said that I didn't really really remember him saying that because because again it all gets kind of lost in in the middle of this also again I think the internet is going to do a very good job of dissecting exactly what the moderators did last night I think that there's going to be a montage and if there isn't then I'm calling on all our fans to make one right now and I'll play it on the show tomorrow A Montage of every fact check yeah right I mean it was minutes of time that they were factchecking Trump I want a montage of every time they interrupted him he'd be giving an answer and they would say we're out I want to move on David M would say I want to move on I want he's in the middle of giving an answer about Afghanistan hammering kamla Harris and David M would jump in and say I want to move on I have so I have so many questions who gives a what you want you running for why are you why are you an important person what makes you an important fact check her once no zero times the mostre thing on this was in one paragraph she did the very fine people hoax she did the she the blood the the BL the most ridiculous she did the she and she did the stand back and stand by you're in favor of The Proud boys hoax which all three of those are nonsense they didn't fact check that at all and then when they did fact check him they lied so they said well you know the crime rates she K says the crime rates have gone down and then David M repeats like a zombie yes the crime rates have gone down and Trump says says the crime rates haven't gone down the FBI has not reported all the crime rat which is true he's actually correct about this but because again all the when all the fact checks are directed at one side the media are clearly attempting to drive a narrative and the narrative is her narrative because her narrative at the beginning was he's going to tell you so many lies and they were going to be complicit in all of that now again he's going to have to go out in the campaign Trail he's going to have to prove it he's got his talking points two months left you're making like a huge point though that is re it really is important part of this thing I was talking about before the debate about the the way the impression sinks in over time and it doesn't take that much time it doesn't it's not going to take 50 days but it has to do with the internet now which it didn't before before it was kind of you stick in your head you'd think about it now there's going to be a constant drum beat of these memes coming out and I think a lot of them are going to be in Trump's favor and I think that it's going to it's going to spread people are watch the news a different way that we haven't quite caught up with it can we say one thing about David M by the way it's not just what he did but it's it's the attitude with which he did it yes sneering condescension ashamed of himself to have to be in a room with Donald Trump proud of himself to show everyone that he was willing to stand up constantly to Donald Trump I mean they're they're I'm not uh the most effusive in my trump praise I think person at the daily wire their disdain for him their scorn for him they can't even hide it it's not that they can't hide it they don't even want to try to hide it they want you to see so that you know that they are good people so that you know that this the thing that Trump is most right about it's not the stain for him it's the stain for us and he's in the way and he's at it's the people who voted for him that they hate and they've hated him for 50 60 years and I ironically I think the media it might end up that the media bailed him out because if the story of the debate ultimately is that it was three against one and this was the most unfair debate we've ever seen which it was then that's automatically a win for Trump if that becomes the story it's up to like to your point it's up to Republicans to make that the story uh which shouldn't be too hard to do the thing the thing that's very difficult I think about this moment is that because there are no more inflection points the debates were held so early this year right you had the debate that knocked Biden out that was in June that never happened you a debate in June that's crazy and then this debate normally would be debate number one right you now have two more that were coming which would give the incumbent time Trump's not even the incumbent but the incumbent it would give him time to actually recover this is going to be the only debate which means we've now run out of inflection points in this election cycle right there are organized inflection point oh you sweet no what I mean by that Noti notice how I changed planned inle inflection points there will be exogenous events that occur between now and November and nobody knows what they are that's leaving the election to The Winds of chance and that's why it felt like I think a little bit of a gut punch to to a lot of us who want Trump to win or Trump donors who organized fundraisers for him you know it it feels like a gut punch because it's like when the opportunity is in front of you if you would just seize it it's just right there it's right there just do the thing so speaking of opportunities we have a great discount right now over at dailywire.com for new subscribers if you use promo code fight you will get 47% off of your daily wire Plus Membership that gives you access to all of our content uh our our movies documentaries specials from uh judged through uh the United divided states of Biden Ben's wonderful uh documentary series from earlier this year back when there was a guy running for president named Joe Biden you get members only content uh and I think most importantly you help us do the important work that we're doing uh I believe it's important nothing perhaps uh more important than our coverage tonight having our daily wire team at the debate so that they're able to bring real-time information to us we'll be hearing from cat Phillips in only a few moments and other things like bringing Matt's new documentary Amir racist to theaters as we will be Nationwide in over 1500 screens on Friday so please if you're not a member head over to dailywire.com use that promo code fight to get your 47% discount and if you are a member head over and ask us questions because we want to hear from our members throughout the broadcast uh beginning right now with this first question uh for the entire group what are your thoughts on Trump's I'm speaking moment I thought it was cute it was funny it was good Albi you a Maga hat was good I thought I'll bu you a Maga hat was terrific yeah obviously the I'm speaking moment was planned in advance because you know that is kamla's Trick if you remember from her vice president debating against Mike Pence she constantly used that line to sort of show that he was beating up on a woman I think was sort of her and he just took that right away from her which I thought was a pretty he also he he can't help but put the button on the joke yeah I thought right I'm speaking get it get it sound familiar it would have it would have been obviously a lot more telling if the mics had been on right but part of the problem is that the mics are muted so when she's talking you can't hear what she's saying back to I actually think the mic's being muted really helped her tonight because she kept trying to slip in things you could actually hear it off mic for saying things like and by the way the split screen for her I don't think was particularly flattering Ian she's making a lot of Faces tonight the one thing that she has studiously avoided I'll give her credit for this the crazy laugh is gone you you seen the crazy laugh on the campaign Trail yeah that was like the most indicative tick of every time she was lying for her entire vice presidency and this is a woman who takes stage Direction really well like I mean they they they told her do not laugh ever again for the rest of your life and you will be president and you'll be president and she's doing it I will give that to her it it did remind me a little bit of her mugging on the split screen reminded me a little bit of Al Gore remember when Al Gore did that GE W bush and it kind yeah it kind of it did it did was distracting and ugly it was unattractive and unappealing as a an emotional thing you know just watching that I don't know how much I just wonder if you know I'm you process these things sort of as as you think about them I do wonder how it appeared to people who you know may not be in our financial position what I mean by that is if you're a blue collar worker in the Rust Belt and you're watching KLA Harris speaking about The Vibes and about Donald Trump in January 6 and all this kind of stuff and at no point does she ever acknowledge anywhere in the debate that there's any problem for anyone in America she laughed at inflation she did put her little smile on I do wonder if that is a a point that needs to be drawn out by the Trump Campaign which is you at no point assumed I mean you say come to us if you're not okay there are a lot of people in the country who are not okay and if I were going to cut an ad based on that debate I would say Kam use that clip of her saying what I'm asking is are you okay and then say America is not okay America is not okay and it's not okay because of you but here's the thing if you do want to be okay then you need to be healthier you know let me talk about something else I'm passionate about aside from political debate and that of course is Fitness I've been regularly exercising for years now as you can see from this chiseled Godlike physique it's become a major part of my daily routine we should see the shockingly defined biceps and you will if you become a daily wi 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Meb backstage for 15% off your purchase can I say on on a completely uh non-political topic you're in really good shape and nobody knows I know right it is one of the real it is truly one of the it is truly one of the downsides of your listen it's only a little gay there there are other downsides of your religious beliefs which we should talk about off air the ever ever presentes flaming that in any case yeah but but the fact that you people are modest really works against you because you actually do work out as much as anybody I know yeah I co in it a hefty 11% body fat which I don't know if that was good or bad it means basically I'm an Olympian I'm telling you right now I somewhat curious to learn more haven't even mentioned the fact that I can still walk I don't know you're you are also incredibly physically fit well I work out a lot you work out a lot and you walk uphill straight uphill which is a we've been talking about doing a push-up contest for years now so it's got to happen one of these days I mean the other day we did the pull-up thing we did do a pull-up contest pull-ups are hard man that's we talk about sexy I am why are we just talking about we did do a pullup contest I will tell you Ben works out all the time Drew works out all the time and I used to work out with Michael N we did C mov for about a year and you're crumbling in our I have taken a punch from Michael N have you really we somehow you survive who won the why was I not invited to the pull-up contest first of all oh I mean what's your what's your top what's your top number what was yours I'll tell you we actually have a pull-up bar right off of the set way better than the debate yes well anyway I'm just saying I appreciate that I'm I'm like an old fat guy but if I worked out as much as you I would look into religions that involve less modesty that's it that's all I'm saying uh here's another question from our dailywire.com subscribers uh people who have availed themselves perhaps of the 47% off discount using promo code fight at dailywire.com do you think this is all baked into the cake at this point or uh or is it all just theater um I I think that it's like I'll say 80% picked into the cake and 20 and and maybe 20% not picked into the cake yeah at this point uh it's not 100% the margins are not moving all that much it's not as though Donald Trump dropped down to 40% or 35% because we were unhappy with his performance or that K Harris ramped up to like 53% in the polls what what may have happened is that K Harris nationally went from like 46 to 48 and Donald Trump went from like 46 to 45 right like that it's also a turnout game this late in the race people are already starting to vote and so a lot a lot of what's Happening Now is also just about motivation like the fact that we don't feel great today and we may to your point we may feel better about all of this tomorrow but you need to leave tonight with a good feeling you you need your base uh not just your base but you need all of your potential voters to actually do something about it and vote right I mean I I think that this is one of the one of the problems that Trump has had and this is true basically since 2016 in 2016 Republicans felt like this is a magical opportunity not only to get Trump elected but also to absolutely Crush Hillary Clinton's dreams I mean that's really so much of 2016 was we hate Hillary Clinton she's been around for 20 plus years she's the worst person in American politics I will walk over broken class to vote against that human being and because KLA Harris is kind of undefined I I I think that there's a little bit less of that and it's more like how's your passion level on Donald Trump think that's the biggest problem and and so because of that you know again I think that he needs to ramp up the passion level for him or against her and that's why again I just keep coming back to when are we going to get the full takedown of KLA Harris we so richly deserve when is that going to happen he started it tonight I I actually want to interrupt because I have something uh there's actual breaking news which rarely happens to us kamla Harris's campaign is calling for a second debate of course they are because they think she won vice president Harris is ready for a second debate uh we are looking for U the American people essentially I'm I'm paraphrasing now quoting uh should see a second debate in October it's smart because they know he's going to say no right so they just want to make him put him in a spot to say I don't think I don't think he will say no he's going to say no because what's going to happen is that he's going to say where and she's going to say NBC and he's going to say did you see those moderators are you out of your mind let's do I don't think he'll say no I don't think he'll I think he says yes yeah because first of all ABC is the most leftist biased Network they hired the former top propagandist for the Clinton White House to be their Chief political anchor so and and you saw those Jokers tonight so anything is going to be more more moderate that's risky for her kind of surprised a little I'm a little surprised that she did but I think he will take her he might even get away with getting at least one person you know like Brett Bear and there which would which would be fine I I mean well maybe I should I don't think he should do another one so I he can't directly say no but I think exactly what you just said like what I'm here's what he could say I'm not doing another one of those there's no way I'm not doing a three-on-one thing again that was it's a setup it's ridiculous I'm not doing that so we could you know we could do one on Fox or we could do it somewhere that's that's what he should do is he should propose no no moderators no moderators you should say no moderators you should say there's a question the question pops up on the screen we each get to talk for one minute with a clock and then we move on to the next question with rebuttal for 30 seconds each like set a series of rules with no moderators because the the game now is a game of chicken right she's going to say I offered you the debate why aren't you taking the debate right she she did this earlier and then he's going to say well because your moderators suck and that was awful and she's going to say because you're chickening out right man you're chickening out and and so what he needs to come back with is he needs to say absolutely no moderators because you shouldn't have your AIDS in the corner helping you out yeah another piece of breaking news right now the the biggest surprise uh perhaps of the political season if you're you know been living under a rock for the last four years uh Taylor Swift just officially endorsed KLA Harris oh wow but who did Travis endorse no it's a woman who's never gotten men right she's what I love about Taylor Swift is that she's always super late on everything yeah you ever seen the movie pop star never stop never stopping so there is a great number from pop star never stop never stopping it's an Andy Samberg Lonely Island film it's pretty fantastic it's totally to wildly inappropriate not appropriate for children at all and uh but there's there's one song uh that is aptly titled not gay in which Andy Samberg explains why gay marriage is awesome but that he personally is not gay in the song repeatedly and the punchline is that the everybody reacts to it and they're like gay marriage became legal in the United States like 5 years ago why are you even talking about this anymore and that is Taylor Swift in a nutshell it's like she waits until it doesn't matter anymore and then she sign mons all the media could talk about was whether or not she was going to endorse yeah well and and again it's just bait right because we're all going to say what we're going to say like right now what I'm about to say which is if you vote based on who Taylor Swift is voting for you are one of the stupidest people alive I'm insulted now it's like it is it is the stupidest thing in the world to say who is this 36 she's the same age as my wife my wife's a doctor with four kids this lady's acting like she's a 17-year-old girl trping around singing songs about the latest dude she broke up with and we're all supped are voting advice from her okay now you can clip that you can put it on media's going to hate hate the significance of the of the Taylor Swift uh endorsement is they're going to go for well can we have the largest political campaign rally of all time right Vibes Vibes Vibes if if it's really a Taylor Swift concert they can get you know a million 100, people easily yeah um so that's the yeah Point well no more breaking news but we do have news uh original news coming from our very own cat Phillips who is live in pH Philadelphia right now uh ke what do you have for us well the second the debate ended the spin room behind me was flooded with serat it was very different than the Atlanta debate Democrats serrats were rushing out they were jubilant uh I heard from a number of them the campaign press secretary saying Harris was strong and optimistic Trump was angry and weak they said it was a clear-cut win as you mentioned earlier they won another debate in October they said that they would even settle for multiple debates the Democrats were very excited now it it's worth noting also the moderators are getting a lot of discussion about the bias there sitting here in the room I was with a thousand reporters watching this debate you could also feel the bias in the room there were multiple moments throughout the evening where Trump begins to speak and there was loud uproarious laughter from large groups of members of the press they were not even trying to hide the fact that they were having fun they were mocking Trump pretty openly worth pointing that the worth pointing out that moderators are not the only biased folks in the media now the Trump campaign they're not trying to spin this as a win um guys I talked to a number of them I I heard from a number of circuits I talked to Tom Cotton Tim Scott the campaign um communications director Brian Hughes all of their talk was not necessarily on Donald Trump's performance it was on the performance of the moderators all of them used the language this was a three-on-one debate they're saying however that the American people can see through the fact that the media wants kamla Harris elected and that the substance of the debate whatever the performance of trump or kamla was will actually be secondary to the poor performance from the moderators more broadly I will say that I've never felt better about Donald Trump's chances than hearing you say that they were openly mocking him in the spin room while watching the debate the the absolute disdain that the media class has for the American people uh is not just the biggest story of tonight it's probably the biggest story in the country and has been been for a number of years you can't talk about it enough uh and so you know may their huus do for them what it did for them in 2016 kin who do you who else are you hoping to talk to tonight sorry sorry about that I had a little bit of audio trouble there uh JD Vance has just recently made an appearance we're going to be talking to Tulsi Gabbert in a bit but I did want to also point out the Trump serat they were saying that once the American people actually get real not real-time factchecking but factchecking after the fact they will realize just how often KLA Harris was lying for example she said that she had never called for decriminalizing illegal border crossings in 2019 she said it is wrong to suggest that undocumented immigrants are criminals being an undocumented immigrant is not a crime later she said that she had never supported mandatory gun buybacks in 2020 she said we have to have a buyback program I support a mandatory buyback program and perhaps most notably the Trump campaign here in Pennsylvania was talking repeatedly about the importance of fra and they Saida did want to ban fracking and we actually have a clip despite her saying she never wanted to ban fracking here's a a brief clip of her talking about that in the 2020 Campaign Will you commit to implementing a federal ban on fracking your first day in office adding the United States to the list of countries who have banned this devastating practice there's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking so yeah and and and starting and starting with what we can do on day one around public lands right and um and then there has to be legislation but yes and this is something I've taken on in California I have a history of working on this issue and to your point um and you know that we have to just acknowledge that the residual impact of fracking is enormous in terms of the impact on the health and safety of communities so the Trump campaign saying they're having to do the job of the moderators who only showed interest in fact checking Donald Trump they are trying to blast that message out expect to hear some of those uh conflicting quotes of hers from 2020 versus last night in TV ads they said they're going to have new ads up and running in the next week especially here in Pennsylvania hey cin it looks like Donald Trump just walked into the spin room behind you we're gonna go get there right now if he is and we'll get back we'll check back in with you in just a few minutes good work yeah they're in my ear saying you see the people running behind cabin Donald Trump just walked into which is a thing you do have to love about Donald Trump oh he's Fearless about this the tenacity of the guy is unbelievable yes what you said there is one factor that that can help Republicans so there's a lot of talk about how you know we were talking that you have to be excited to go to The Ballot Box yes or you has to be super pissed and and if it turns out that they just keep spitting on everyone and just spitting on everyone then it may be that you took off enough people and stuff like these debates don't really matter like in the end it's just a giant pulsating metal thing and and so I think that's what Trump is is going to be banking on going forward again every single state every single one is within margin of era right now so trying to pretend that this is going to like blow the waist wide open or radically seminally change where we are in the race I mean this race has been extremely stable really since the beginning of the race and the only thing that changed was everybody realized that that Joe Biden was scile and then as soon as she was put in it kind of went back to status quo ante from like September October of last year so yeah I'm not sure a big difference too between the fact checks and the fact checks of the fact checks now compared to 2012 I remember 2012 I was watching that debate Romney said Obama you did not refer to the Benghazi attack as a terror attack for a day or two or several days after and Candy Crowley lied and said yes he did and then way after the debate was over at the end of the broadcast you said oh by the way I got it wrong and everyone had tuned out at that point because everyone in 2012 was watching that debate on TV myself included now my father doesn't always watch this stuff on TV people are watching this on the internet the media landscape is very different than it was 12 years ago and so sure the the real time fact checks were frustrating we were going to pull our hair out here but when you get those montages of all the fact checks and then what Kat was talking about the fact check of the fact check K says I never said that spliced with on all of our shows probably tomorrow spliced with KLA saying that I don't know that then to drw's point the the debate settling in the days afterward I'm not sure that this is so great for Kamala I'm not sure that this is so bad for Trump you know the the thing you said before is really important because if I have a concern it is that the Vibes for Harris are very powerful the enthusiasm for her is very powerful because she's not Joe Biden because she's a Fresh coat of paint and Trump has been around a long time now he was a breath of fresh air when he started we all were like shocked by him we didn't see him coming it was like a train just bowling over the uh opposition but anger is also a kind of enthusiasm and I think you know if if you're not angry at an media complex that is so huge so dominant so powerful that hates your guts if you're not angry about that you're just not paying any attention at all and getting back to the fact that look Democrats aren't going to change their vote Republicans aren't going to change their vote it's all in the hands of Independence at some point some of these Independents got to be looking at this and saying you know I'm tired of being hated that's what gave Trump his power in the first place people are tired this was this is not 10 years 20 years this is 60 years of being told their country sucks their religion sucks they're racist all you know their religion everything about them is bad people got ticked off and Trump was a gigantic middle finger to all those people they're still here they're still saying the same stuff Trump has gotten you know we've gotten used to him he's he's lost that kind of shock that he had before but I don't know if the anger wears off when you're being treated like these people treat us you know the the way that you could tell the moderators were truly you know horrifically awful tonight there were a million ways what's the number one issue in the country right now clearly like with a bullet inflation inflation number one issue not one question tonight not one question on inflation we got several minutes on Trump's tariff policy his proposal for tariffs the implication of course being that that's going to be inflationary policy at no point did they go to KLA Harrison and say you presided over the worst 40-year inflation spiral that we've seen so what what's the deal instead they went to Trump's tariff policy then they asked her about Trump's tariff policy and then he responded to her responding which gave her a chance to respond and again I think that that was a mistake by him because I think he kept taking the bait she would she would respond to what was saying and then instead of him letting it go and letting them move on to a topic that was maybe better for him than say tariff he would fall in love with the topic and then he just had to respond he had to go but again the the questions I I am absolutely bewildered and shocked at at those questions they were truly truly egregious and I agree with you that I think that the takeaway is going to be you can never trust the media again media trust is at at all time lows whether Trump can translate until you know votes for him is another question but I think that for future election Cycles we Joe killed the the election debate process right he killed the presidential commission and so now I think that if you're a republican you should never again walk into a debate that is organized by your opponents never again in fact moderators at all and if you are going to have moderators I'm I'm going to pose the the Jewish solution moderators there like an actual Jewish law solution when when you have to form like a court what you do is you pick one I pick one they pick one right that's that's the way that you end up actually forming a court that seems like a pretty good way if you're going to have moderators at all you can have three and you have one from my side one from your side and then the two of those people pick the person in the middle that seems like a better way of doing it than we currently than we currently are you know I do want to say something they pick one and they pick another one ex the current way I am excited to announce something tonight I'm not excited about a lot what happened 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price that of eggs that what you were spending on eggs because my wife is making me spend $1 for eggs and you were shocked and I said the thing is the fact that you had to check shows what the media and that's us is like we have to check to see what we're paying for eggs if if you don't have the kind of money that people in the media have you don't have to check what you're paying for eggs you know when you walk in what you're paying for eggs and what it's taking away from all your other expenses and that's the that's the Gap that's the big gap is that's why people don't see what a disastrous Administration this has been in the press and why Trump you know Trump is the first president who narrowed the gap between rich and poor narrowed the gap between black and white he never talks about it he probably doesn't even know it but he's the first guy to do that in 60 years and he is the the first president in my lifetime to have his finger on the pulse of the price of a Fab egg you know he has two on his airplane what one issue that right on this point drew that that didn't come up tonight and it's a scandal it didn't come up pertains to mass migration which should have should have been the Lion Share of the debate and the moderators tried to gloss over that but what what especially they could have focused on was the drug crisis and fenel deaths because this is something that affects it actually does affect people even in the media even in the fancy clubs who know somebody or at least know somebody who knows somebody who has died of a fentanyl overdose uh and and certainly people in the Forgotten parts of the country know a lot of people who have experienced that you know there was a a report that came out just today that Comm while running in 2020 signed a candidate questionnaire calling for the decriminalization of Sentinel not marijuana not cocaine not fenel and just this past year what was it 75,000 or thereabouts Americans died of fentanyl overdoses many many more of drug overdoses overall are I don't think you should categorize fentanyl as an overdose it's a poison it's a poison it's a poison not an overd and so the numbers are ticking up again this is the poisoning the the the permitted negligent and intentional killing of Americans doesn't come up but here's the thing in the end the magical power that Donald Trump has Above All Else and this has been true since 2015 is he has a camera magnet right wherever he goes the cameras follow him and what that means is that the only person who can really prosecute the case is going to have to be Donald Trump it cannot be JD Vans it can I mean we're all watching JD and JD's doing a great job in a lot of these interviews he watch me these rallies he's doing media and it doesn't even make a dent and the reason it doesn't make a dent is because the camera can just ignore JD van unless he's saying something about Tucker Carlson and and his his friendly relations with Tucker or something in which case they can use it against JD you know they're not going to talk about JD Vance he's just not going to break through the thing that Trump had that that I think is the the underrated superpower of Donald Trump is that he had broken through before he was ever running right he was one of the most famous people in the country before he ever declared for the presidency and because of that it meant that he had layers of insulation against whatever the media could throw at him because everybody already had a preconceived notion of who Donald Trump was he still had the capacity to do that but it means that no surrogate can do the thing surrogates can do the thing for KLA she can send surrogates out there because she's she's in she's a nothing she's a neb she really is she's just an empty suit she's a neb she's nothing and what that means is that she can send out surrogates to go change her positions willy-nilly or go on the or go on the morning shows with Morning Joe and jabber about what a Vibes candidate she is and she can go into spice shops and hug people and that'll be her entire campaign no one on the right can do the job for him which means the challenge is his and so in a very singular way this election will be won or lost by Donald Trump either he is going to singularly in his own personage prosecute the case against kamla Harris or it ain't going to get prosecuted because the the the other problem that you got is that he can toss hundreds of millions of dollars into TV ads and the question is who watches local TV anymore seriously this is a major problem like how you you can you can throw that money down a rat hole but the reality is the amount of money that's spent on local TV and say pencilvania on these tv ads what's the ROI on that it's not as easy to reach people as it once was and the internet is super fragmentary and so you know their their ballot harvesting operation better be top-notch their get out the vote operation better be top-notch I mean let's start putting the pressure inside for those of us who want him to win okay it's time to start actually putting the pressure where the pressure needs to be for him to win and in order for him to win we can pressure the media we always do that and we should we should that should not let up the pressure should be on us from Harris we'll do our job right that's our job our job is to keep the pressure on them but the only people who can run the get out the vote effort are the people running to get out the vote effort you can't do it I can't do it no none of us can do that the get out the vote effort needs to be topn no excuses the Donald Trump needs to personally prosecute the case no excuses because in the end ain't going to be excuses because if she's elected she's going to wreck the country she really will it's actually one of the questions from one of our dailywire.com subscribers is will the VP debate have a significant impact and it sounds like you're saying no nope not one iota does anybody remember KL Harris from The Mike Pence debate they remember the they remember the fly in that debate more than they remember than more than they remember great the fly the fly was one of the big stars our modern politics I mean JD Vance will do very very well in it'll he'll be spectacular and it won't matter at all not one iota not one iota the one thing that'll be hard for him now is that Tucker has created this issue for him right I mean like like J Tim Walls will for sure hit him on his friendship with Tucker because Tucker had this schmuck sudo historian on who who did this dumb routine about how Churchill was the villain of the second world war and that's just like an that's just an easy hit for Tim Walls he'll go out of his way to do it it was a dumb move by Tucker it was damaging to the Republican cause for whatever that matters and and you know JD will be asked about that without a doubt during that VP debate is that going to make any difference not really he's the VP candidate who cares yeah another question from a dailywire.com subscriber and you can become a subscriber at dailywire.com using promo code fight for 47% off that's 47 47 obviously we went Donald Trump to be the 47th president uh simple yes or no from the entire group do you think that the people of the United States actually believe her lies what lies what Li you know they believe she wants to kill babies she wants to kill babies they believe that she'll adjust her policies based on whatever's convenient she will do that I you know I don't think she cares that much about fracking I think she just says what she thinks she needs to say power yeah and so that they she says that they believe it and they're all right I guess I think that they don't believe her lies because they don't care what I what I would say is that they I think the Democrats and right now I see it with like Mark cubin for example I think that a lot of Democrats have the same feeling about her that for a long time Republicans had about Trump which was take him seriously but not literally right so they're taking her Vibes seriously and her vibe is I'm not Donald Trump I am a I'm a lefty I'm a typical Lefty I'm going to do exactly what a typical Lefty does doesn't matter what she says I mean they openly say this right I mean they'll go on TV and they'll be like sure she's lying about all of her positions but she does have to get Bernie literally said this this weekend right Bernie went on national TV being pragmatic right she she's changing all of her positions she's being pragmatic and that's what she should do as a good Marxist she should lie about everything and then once she's elected she can execute the coocks right like that's I mean a lot of a lot of Voters let's face it are NPCs they're non-playable characters you know and in some ways that's that's kind of healthy you know they grew up with in the Democrat or the Republican party you stick to your family you stick to the people around you that's kind of the way it should be in a country that's not on the brink of collapse like this one but in normally that's not a bad thing but there the people who decide the election because of that are the playable characters and I don't think I think a lot of the playable characters will not believe her L I just wonder if the people in the middle are just going are just exhausted I bet you the voters turn out for people who Independence is like zero seriously because because it like I mean independent voters independent voters yeah yeah like because if you're a Democrat you're jazzed because kamalan Vibes and all that and if you're a trump voter you're Jazz because you got to stop Kamala and Vibes and all that if you're an independent you're like when does all this just end like seriously like I think that that was that that has been the vibe in a couple of Elections straight where it's like Americans are just like can we just be left alone like a little normality yeah and and and so you know I think that is what people vote for I agree and that's kind of why I was hoping that that there would be a little bity from tonight think in a way if there if KLA goes on to be president the historic thing about this debate retrospectively will be that it's a bit like Bill Clinton's the era of big government is over moment that she really ran as the uh the government should leave you alone candidate tonight which is of course absurd because she is the vice president of trump was right about this right he said I'm buy you a Maga hat that's right right it it's an amazing pivot that at least says that some of our actual uh policy preferences do resonate with the American people we've stopped advocating for some of our the government should leave you alone positions yeah that's a that's a I think become a weak spot for conservatives in in the last uh six or eight years and I think K is showing us that that that does running the right she's running well that that Coalition that you're describing Jeremy which is that Reagan SL sort of Bill Clinton SL sort of Tony Blair SL short sort of Dave Cameron it's not even just in America it's it's in the UK too it we kind of mock it now as p and neoliberal and Squishy and it is I it is all of those things it also does still seem to kind of resonate with the voters words like neoliberal and what most people just hear when they hear neoliberal is I have no idea what you're talking about do you mean that you're going to leave me alone and I'll just be able to go to the supermarket and things will be cheap or what like what do you mean seriously you think most people have any idea what the hell the word neoliberal means people who use the word neoliberal have no idea well I mean we know what it means and we probably don't like a lot of it we don't like you know just totally leair cultural uh hands on the you know we don't want to have much more migration we don't want to have some weak Middle Ground where we kill some babies and not other babies we don't want to give up the meaning of marriage you know we I don't like it I would like a more coherently conservative policy and I'm sure Bernie and comrade Kamala and her heart of hearts wants a more leftist policy but a lot of those voters that we're trying to reach they don't have the most most coherent and consistent political philosophy and if you can appeal to them that can be very powerful I wanted to just uh follow up one thing Ben you said that I think your Bernie Sanders impression is your best one thank you I appreciate that I just you know my got few that are kind of weak but that one was good thank my my my trump is not great my my Obama is quality you have a good Obama uh KLA Harris has a good black woman I heard her break it up I don't are you sure it's good I don't think it's that good I I did love Trump's answer on that if she wants to be black she can be black if she doesn't want to be black she doesn't have to be black does it really matter actually was it actually was kind of a sophisticated answer they just weren't letting him have it yeah okay okay from dailywire.com subscriber this one for Ben do you think the Jewish men and women around our country fall for the lie that she loves his okay it's time for my answer you ready for this here we go most Jews are not Jewish okay let me explain this thing about Jews whenever you see a poll of Jews what you mean are people who identify as Jews which and and Jews unlike other groups you know people who identify as Jews they're not doing so religiously if you pull people like are you Catholic typically the people who say they are Catholic are Catholic you know like they go to church like they actually pay attention to the things the Pope says they were at least baptized they they probably don't go to church okay okay they they take the religion seriously enough that that when they are not Catholic anymore they call themselves lapsed Catholics or atheists okay Jews don't do that so for Jews they'll be like full non-compliant God is stupid like full fullon atheistic anti-israel Cooks but for those Jews the reason they say Jew is because what they mean is intersectionally not white right and that is a that is a serious share of like the American Jewish population who identifies as Jewish because it means that they're not part of the white Borg and also we're not part of the like old anti-semitic you know white people and country clubs thing right and so I always differentiate between Jews who care about jewishness and people who don't care about jewishness so for those of us who actually have a dog in the being Jewish fight we're going to vote like 110% for Donald Trump in my synagogue there are I I can name I can name them I think there's one to two this is a synagogue of 400 families there maybe one to two kamla Harris supporters maybe okay and that's fairly consistent around the Orthodox Community like we we all see through it I mean we all know it if if you go down to Florida every Trump fundraiser is filled with people with yakas like every single one it's the there's a reason for that but one of the great and by the way you can tell us in the polls there's a poll and it shows it's a Pew Pole came out recently showing what various religious denominations think of people of other religious denominations and so every religious denomination says they don't like atheism except the Jews who are pro9 they're plus 19 on atheism why because it turns out that a huge number of people who identify as Jews are in fact atheists right and so I I think it's important to make that distinction because people get caught up in the like Jews as solidarity club for for people who all think alike and it's like well no they're the ones of us who actually take the Bible seriously and care deeply about what happens to Israel and think k k Harris is is awful on Israel awful her answer tonight was sheer absolute unmitigated trash absolute trash if she says one more she keeps saying over and over what we're searching for is an end to the conflict in which there is a hostage deal all the hostages are freed and Israel is still safe and also there will be a two-state solution and unicorns will fart energy and like what the what are you talking about you're talking about negotiating with a terrorist entity to maintain its dominance of a portion of the land in order so that you can then give them a state and then peace will break out like it's it's it's awful and Tim wals by the way is way worse than Kamala on this it's an awful ticket on it truly awful tiet I want to know you know on the right we've got these clowns who are anti-semitic and they're always coming after me and yelling terrible things and I I want to know if Jews are so bad for America why is it the people who say death to America want to kill the Jews never quite understood that just just just asking questions one of them I forget it was some picture of you drew and one of them was making some argument about how how terrible you are and but it was being presented as very objective but then I know I looked at the picture I said wait what's that and they drew a little yamaka on your bald head they didn't they didn't they didn't no it was just there I didn't I had no idea listen I we all saw the picture it was from Backstage Live okay and it's it's all of us sitting in this format Drew right there and he's and he for the life of me is wearing a yam and Drew and I had a conversation about this a few days ago for dinner like did you see the thing where they put that yamaka on my head it's kind of funny they didn't put the Y on his head was that just Providence the Geniuses at the daily wire where I work put a daily wire a DW watermark on the video that that is a a translucent black circle and it just happened that ex and this is where the anti-semites are hilarious I wish it wasn't true the gers are funny as hell they're evil ha evil and hate are F can be funny yeah yeah they believe in a a a demonic ideology but they are hilarious and they found the one frame of the whole show where the watermark landed on Drew's head dude they're super funny they made a Hispanic gay guy the leader of their movement now from now on now I'm wearing this outside my shirt like a bishop know I look like a bishop and when you're a bishop you actually get to wear I get to wear the exactly then I get the Y you come full circle from another dailywire.com subscriber what do we do we should be serious that this is actually uh I think on the hearts and minds of a lot of people what do we do if kamla wins this genuinely feels like we're on the verge of losing the country if the left takes the White House in Congress so how do we stay calm in the event that Trump loses you know I was at a fundraiser uh for republicans in Virginia the other day and that this was on all of their minds it was you know what do we do first of all they may not believe that he lost if he did lose but I think the obviously a possibility that he could lose and I just think you know this is the kind of country where things go a lot slower than people want them to go hopefully and I it really just depends on what happens to the Congress because we could we could lose the White House but hold Congress and hold the Senate and and win the Senate so there's a lot of different outcomes and I think not panicking would be a good idea you know I got asked once recently somebody on one of the all access shows you know should should we revolt we get our guns and I thought could you volunteer to serve at a polling place first before you go for your guns you know I think there are a lot of things to do to be active in in in American politics that still work that are still there that we should start to take advantage of also you know this election is very very important they're all really important um you're not going to win every election from now until forever like you are going to lose sometimes no matter what that's just that's just a reality so that's all that's all kind of baked into the cake of the way the system works so the way I look at it is I mean it's I mean it'll be terrible if she wins and if they win everything which I don't think will happen uh even worse I mean really devastating consequences but what do we do we what do we just what do we give up and and move where are you going to move to right um You just you get ready for for 2028 you get ready for the midterms you focus on your own family your own Community you just you keep living and fighting Donald Trump say fight fight fight Americans I feel we have a ton of really great virtues and particular skills but one area that we lack in is we sometimes lack in historical sense because we're a young country and we were founded in a a unique way that had all these ramifications for the rest of the world and we kind of forget how how history works I just happened coincidentally providentially to give this lecture on my favorite Italian poet Dante it was specifically on who I don't know if you heard of him he's this guy tell me all about him two hours actually recite his kantos you you can get that if you listen to my lecture on the isi uh YouTube channel but it was on his politics cuz this is a guy who Rose to the highest level of the Florentine government and then immediately lost everything he got the pope attacked him killed his the Pope's uh army guys killed his friends took took his property yeah sent him sent him out of uh his City he never returned uh Civil War was the recurring theme in his political life and Dante had to make sense of it and he's not the only one great political thinkers have had to make sense of this going back to boist and before that uh if you are Christian though you believe that there is a meaning to history you believe that there's a beginning to the story The Creation you believe there's a turning point which is the Incarnation and you believe there's an end and we know how the story ends if you're a Christian you believe that this world this Fallen World of politics is is subject to principalities and power and and uh spiritual wickedness in high places uh you believe also that rulers are here for our own good and that a civil order and Justice and law is here for our own good and we need to uh do our very best to establish those conditions for justice but it's going to be really unpleasant a lot of the time and I I fear sometimes because we have a short revolutionary view of History we think that we're just it's all going to be roses and it's weird it's weird that Christians who have a God who is crucified by the religious people the political people by the you know that they believe that everything's going to come up roses that's not the way it works I mean I think that on a very practical level the there there are a few things one the Senate matters an awful lot yeah and people who are not paying attention to the Senate races bad mistake right now the Republicans basically have guaranteed 50 seats because of gym Justice in West Virginia they're very likely to win the seat in Montana where Tim sheii appears to be running away with that race that means 51 which is great you're going to need a little bit more than that because you want some sort of cushion because we've had situations in the recent past actually where Republicans had a 51 vote majority and you get one person to peel off and join the Democrats and it completely Jim Jeffords did this when George W Bush was president actually um and you could see something like that you really want more than that I on a personal level have actually been doing something I've never done before which I'm actually going out and actively campaigning with a series of Senate candidates in swing States I already went and campaigned with Captain Sam Brown over in Nevada who's a wonderful person uh and and A Real American Hero I'm going to be campaigning in Pennsylvania with Dave McCormack I'm be pen be hopefully campaigning with Eric Havi and Wisconsin and and Mike Rogers in Michigan and with Bernie Mareno and Ohio like that's my hope I want to go campaign with all those people and if you can you should go work for those Senate candidates because the worst thing would be if the Democrats get a trium it here if they get all three if they Congress and Senate and the presidency they will do damage that is in fact permanent in nature they will add two states to the Senate of the United States and stack it with another four Democratic senators making their majority near permanent they will kill the Fuster they will make changes to the actual system of American government incredibly dangerous and so the question becomes okay let's say all that happens then what and then the answer becomes what always was the case which is you are going to see individual states that just refuse to take the mandates of the federal government right that's that's going to be the next step and you're already you're already seeing by the way when the left to protest this it's like well you guys have already done this it's called The Sanctuary State you do it all the time right you did this with regard to marijuana enforcement like you guys are constantly ignoring laws that you don't think ought to apply to you and so you'll just see that from the right the right will just say listen you want to come enforce your garbage tax law you come down here and try it like C goes for you you're already seeing this with the immigration laws in Texas and what governor Abbott has been doing down there so that that'll be the next step the nice thing about the United States it's really big it's really decentralized states do have an enormous amount of power and I think that I was a lot more pessimistic about these sorts of solutions when I was living in a blue State when I was living in California it's like oh my God there's no place to go and then turns out there are in fact a lot of places to go you can take your whole company to Tennessee move down to Florida right and so and that will give you a base from which to fight back using the mechanisms of the system so the the thing that I hate is when people say this is the last election if we lose this election it's all over and invariably the people who are telling you this are totally lying there's never a last election the end of the world you know you know it's the thing that I noticed I noticed that literally everyone who said that if Biden won in 2020 would be the last election and everything didn't matter and the world would end they all went on the air that after the election they were still on the air it was super weird none of them quit their jobs and decided to go to farming like not literally not one of them it was amazing conservatives say this in the same way that Libs say that if a conservatives they're going to move to Canada that's right but you don't know the Future No One Knows the future uh if comma Harris wins we certainly know it will be bad there will be policies uh that make life worse in the country there will be policies that damage particularly our values uh it's possible that there will be policies B to your point that actually reorder how the government works in this country that could certainly happen that that much is certain it will be bad from a policy perspective if KLA Harris wins beyond that the extent to which it will be uh difficult is completely unknown it could certainly be the case that Donald Trump losing the presidency in 20124 could be the beginning of something really good in the country uh a reorientation you know Donald Trump has been this is our third presidential election where we've marched into battle uh behind Donald Trump if he loses or or and and even if they cheat his job is to ascend the presidency If he if he fails to ascend the presidency if he loses you know then it will be a good thing not to follow him into a fourth presidential election is it possible you say there's always an next election to the extent that you mean history continues of course that's true maybe there's not a next election I mean systems of governments completely change they're talking about cutting the court we could go into a a Soviet style great Terror where we spend 50 years under a dark cloud the worst thing can happen I don't think that it's likely that it will happen that's I think that's the the smallest percent chance of of what the outcome could be but it's possible it's possible that Donald Trump losing could be the beginning of something very good uh that happens you can't be Cavalier about that because we what we know for a fact is that bad policies will happen and you don't lose by you don't win by Los it may be the case that you accidentally do every now and then win by losing but as we say often luck is a bad business model sometimes you lose with Gold War to 64 and then you get Reagan in 80 but an awful long 16year period between and a revolutionary perod that's right and you can't be so Cavalier as to not do your job in the moment our job in the moment is to support Donald Trump for president our job in the moment is to do everything within our power to try to stop the left from having the White House for four more years y should that fail though it is important to remember that at the extremes things can be very bad y most likely what will happen is we'll all get back up we'll all go back to work we'll all have to start reorienting we'll have to start adapting as we always do as as human beings uh we'll have to find a way Matt to your point to focus on our family to focus on uh our faith to focus on the smallest units of government which in the end are the foundational units of government we have to remember to be optimistic not because the future has promised to be good the future might be very bad uh but because belief in God is a fundamentally optimistic act and we'll have to figure out where the fight is and go fight it and we have to make more movies like Matt so that we can change people's minds and change that's right the battle the battle is ultimately a cultural always a cult battle you know a lot of people are very upset about abortion I I'll end I'll end the night with this people are very upset about the fact that the abortion situation in the country has changed we didn't have a plan for what would happen after roie Wade or or for when the the the abortion pill became the chief mechanism of abortion that's right and now that we're on the other side of both of those events in Rapid succession abortion is a much more complex political issue it's not a more complex moral issue the the moral issue hasn't changed at all abortion is a true horror a true blight but the political situation has changed dramatically uh it used to be the case that you could have a politically absolutist view of abortion which is not the same as a morally absolutist I have a morally absolutist view of abortion of abortion but politics only allowed us to have an absolutist political view because of R and what I mean by that is we could elect people who were proponents of abortion like Donald Trump people who've been pro-choice their entire life before he ran like Donald Trump but it didn't matter because in a situation with roie Wade as long as he opposed roie Wade yeah yeah this one concept then he was pro-life and now on the other side we have this complicated moment where the very person who secured us the greatest pro-life victory of all time now isn't morally advocating positions that make the pro-life Community happy but that's the nature of the new political reality and people want to know how do we win how do we win now do we get rid of the people who don't have the Absolut moral view that we have you know do we have to is it better to lose election standing for what's right and those are it's easy to kind of be glib about that those can be in certain moments very complex questions there will be times where we may have to choose to lose political power even Trump is making this point we got to win elections guys just let me go you know but but the ultimate point is this it took half a century to overturn row it will now take half a century to fight the next battle for abortion which is I believe fundamentally a cultural battle we actually have to change the way people relate to the issue of life which is different than changing the way that they deal with the issue of the Supreme Court VV roie Wade we we figured out how to fight that battle we won it we're going have to figure out how to fight this battle and win it some battles can't be won immediately and so whatever comes of this election we're going to have to steal ourselves for the fact that every day that we're alive on this Earth we have to fight for our values yeah that fight will never that fight changes which Panic is always the wrong thing Panic is always we have to play the long game we have to play the long game right and it's why Matt's movie matters because he's fighting in the cultural sphere this movie am icist comes out in theaters on Friday Nationwide if you looked for tickets maybe three weeks ago and it wasn't playing near you we're up to 1,500 screens starting at only 200 four weeks ago so if you checked the internet and the movie wasn't playing near you 3 weeks ago it probably is playing near you today if you look today and it's not playing near you it almost certainly will be tomorrow the movie is now in in wide National release and the movie matters so much and it matters because it isn't it isn't a classic documentary it is a true culturally relevant piece of entertainment content that uses tools cultivated by the left when they weren't in hegemonic power tools like mockery uh tools like um trolling tools that people like Sasha Baron Cohen or Co Steven coar or uh early John Stewart really p and and Matt is the first and only person in our movement to figure out how to effectively turn those tools now that they're the ones in power and we're the ones outside of power he's figured out how to use those tools to the same great effect that they were using them 20 years ago and for that reason alone you must go see this film agreed and because the culture is where we have to fight the fight so go to mist.com grab your tickets uh head over to dailywire.com if you're not a subscriber promo code fight gets you 47 % off of your subscription which is how you can support all of the work that we're doing and engage with all of our wonderful content uh if you haven't registered to vote go register if you haven't volunteered at your polling place go reg go volunteer at your polling place if you haven't talked somebody else into go to vote talk them into to going to vote put one foot in front of the other keep doing the work lift up thine eyes you know fix them on the things that we have been promised and don't worry so 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