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sa Jo [Music] Joe White wants to host us does Joe White want to host us yeah sure we'll go over can we can we do one from the church doubt yeah I don't know about that I don't know about that the parking lot Jim be le Bott done one or two from the parking lot and answer H we did one yeah we did one at the um they did a game there right they had the outdoor game yes and we did one in the gym I think right it was two were you guys were you guys very clean when you were in there absolutely yes yeah we were in the park a lot not in the church but were you still were you clean yeah you guys don't always exhibit the best behavor on you guys don't you guys just you know sometimes you get out of control I have to settle is down you might want to reverse that I'm gonna give you one of the uh one of the the collar mics and it's just and ask n leave when the show's over the like Smitty after dark yeah exactly how it really goes that's right you never know can't be as bad as when we had a what's his name on libr after dark remember from the studio that was all right so let's get the business with the roster let's get the business um there wasn't what's what's the biggest surprise I three running backs is a little surprising that's why saying I think they're looking for another one who how many made it to the practice squad three or just two the guy from San Fran that you've been talking about that's the only one Milton didn't make it no Milton didn't make it nope okay all right so they're definitely how he's got his eyes out running back so the only thing that I yeah maybe but like so you're not gonna keep game while after this year right I don't think so right so then that I think what this tells me and maybe I don't know if you guys agree this tells me that they have a lot more faith in will Shipley than we probably originally did when we dra when we drafted him a lot of people were like oh but I think they like him and a lot I think he's gonna playo I think they yes I think he's definitely going to play he's going to get some touches but let's get in the season first before we go no but I'm saying like making predictions next kind of you know what I didn't mind the fact that they took three running backs because I'm wondering for the first time are we is saquan gonna be your bell C that's what I was gonna say are they are they actually are they actually gonna do this right they're they're not gonna do what they did signing him like that and not give him but even like miles Sanders his big year he's still split I don't think like I think Barkley's the man and Barkley gets at least 20 to touches a game you think 25 touches a game well that might be a little more I don't know I mean he's very good with his including he's one of those guys that he needs the volume he's like you gotta keep an eye on his health too so let me ask you this like 20 rushes and five like screens or passes you don't think you think that's too much might be a lot yeah yeah especially if you're going to give the ball to Shipley and gamewell all actually I gotta be honest with you I think Shipley's gonna play more than game not in the beginning maybe when you get to the end of the season maybe you you think about who who has to see the ball AJ Barkley has to see the ball Brown the whole off yes everybody on that team has to B they're they're all playmakers all your skill positions are Playmakers you got to get them the ball well that means that you know Barkley's I don't see him getting 25 touches a game including there's gonna be some games where he is but it goes back to what we've been all talking about is the reason why this bar signing is so crucial is he he's going to make such a difference overall like we talked about it right like once you start feeding Barkley the ball yeah right then everybody's gonna now now you're gonna have Herz running then you're gonna open up the passing game like the the thing is with and Barkley's a very good pass blocker too he's probably the best pass blocker it's also going to depend on how the game's going correct if they're behind they're going to have to pass if they're controlling the game they're alled they're going to run more well how did K Moore use the running backs and he didn't he use a lot of passes too didn't I believe that he likes to throw out of the backfield he does I think different of running backs but bwell doesn't have the hands that's why I think Shipley plays what funny though like that's the reason they kept saying he was here no he I mean that's why they say Sani loved them though that's why they kept him here no he's a running back but he drops the ball a ton but that was his that was why he was here he was supposed to be here to Shipley at Clemson Not only was just a running back but he could run all different types of rounds ship I think Shipley to be honest I think when they drafted him I kind of forgot about him because if you dude he was like one of the best running backs and when Clemson was rolling he had a he played a big role in their offense right and I'm shocked that he lasted to the fifth round to be honest right he's the perfect like if you go back and think of like lightning and thunder when they had deuce and Westbrook kind he's like the size of Westbrook and he's the sh guy I think he's gonna play more than gay I really do I by the end of the year maybe yeah that's what I said yeah yeah he does he's got a man crush on him that's why he's here I know we'll see here you better not be texting during the middle of the game um receivers there were some people thought they'd take keep six receivers I thought five was a stretch and that's what they kept I think that's what we all they needed to have because ofy they had to keep's going to play more than you think in the offense they're going to use him like they used him at Utah because that's what that's the type of offense that Kell Moore likes he's gonna use him like a Cole Beasley don't be surprised if if KY actually makes a difference in this in some of these in the offense I'm not saying like he's gonna be amazing but I think him and doson are both going to get Target he's the fourth receiver you can use him in a variety of ways dude you can line him up even in the back that's what I'm saying let's see the creativity I'm really curious to see what Kell Moore does I think he might be in bring him in for Jet Sweep or something yeah Jet Sweep or you know something I mean I'm not saying if you start doing that too much you're going to Telegraph it in the defense is like when sprouls came in they were like all right so then they start bringing them in and they don't go to them well yeah yeah you're gonna have to mix it up he's going to get more playing time just because of where he is on the roster now but I don't know that that equates to getting more IES what do you do you think doson starts out as the as the Undisputed three I think right now he's the three because because what I heard is that they also like Devonte Smith in the slot and Johnny can play outside too like that's why that's what if you knows about Kell Moore if you watched his offense even in San Diego and Dallas none of those guys can either play X Y or slot he what you saw when you're training camp dude he's got motion all over the place there's many times where you're going to be like AJ Brown's in the slot it's it's kind of crazy offense that he runs it's going to be like very refreshing to people that it's not a vanilla offense I hope he does I and I hear you there too that the motion should work but I mean you know the quarterbacks still have their favorites right he's still G to be looking at AJ he's still gonna be looking at Devonte he's still gonna be looking a GD so that's why I say the third receiver on this team get five touchdowns do you think they like are gonna Target Gard as much because I feel like every year he's gotten less he's not what he he I don't think he ever lived up to his potential yeah for sure in I give you that I don't think after the sh he that's a TI problem I kept wanting them to draft a tight end we wanted kid from State remember he's the giant starting tight end Theo Johnson yeah got Jack stlb back speaking of the Giant and TI end I mean I'm okay that to the practice squad well no they said he'll probably be elevated by next week for sure he goes to the practice Squad because of how they had to claim them but but when they elevate him they're going to have to let somebody go there probably yeah yeah maybe like a p unless there's a guy that can move most of them have to go you have to go through a waiver yeah some guys somebody like Patrick Johnson I don't think somebody picks him up right well will some or one of these linebackers if waron Burk sucks they're going to drop him right he's a special teams guy right so they might like him for that but isn't Bor yeah dude you need to relax with there's Devon white I think you need to get dude there's white right Nate what do you think about Deon white I think it's he thinks that he's I don't think no I don't do you Brody thinks he sucks yeah we don't think is he better than what we've had he's only 26 but he's better than what we've had you know who else I think you're I think the Kobe Dean if he stays healthy dude this might be the year I hope so because I think this is his last year if he doesn't do it yeah they're they're not living up what is the world talking about nowag was about over yeah but he he hasn't really let's say I I think Carter got the longer lease out of all of them has a short lease they're not they're not performing I agree with what he just said get any Rush that's a problem Carter's gonna get double team the guy that's got to produce is Jord Davis Williams it's Jordan Davis if Jordan Davis produces that's gonna free up Carter a little bit because they're gonna have to pay attention to him more well I know but he's got to he's got to get to the he's got to produce he's in there to stop the run yeah but he's smaller now yeah I know it's he's got play 22 game yeah I'm telling you right now he's G have to now he's got to be in there for 35 you think you think mil milen Williams yeah I agree with you Dad the Georgia guys have been disappointed so far I agree other than Carter that's what I'm saying they haven't lived up to what I mean didn't really play last year so he's a to be determined he's gonna play I think I think he's gonna have to play yeah he's gonna have to play unless somebody somebody beats him out right like hunt I mean Hunt's the guy that I think I think I think you could see noan Smith play some lb too because he played at Georgia if they're only doing two though that means in the linebackers suck really bad too then yeah the ends up there but I can't wait watch Brazil Nolan Smith first play Boom Jordan love knocks him right out I think Smith's gonna play do you he's definitely he's gonna have to yeah they gotta find out about because I don't really I don't think Graham has I think you're I don't think has much I want to JP say's guy off Smith yeah like I remember few episodes ago I did say that like eight to n sex he's got to he's got to but is he we have nothing to go off of well one unblocked sack last year I mean we could say that about a lot of guys I've been with Nate the whole time that's right yeah well Nate's also saying that reck's handling the situation the right way and reck's did you did you see the report today about the Jets and Aaron Rogers yeah oh yeah he it's kind of what you said he's a dick I've been telling you guys for years he's a dick and the Jets are starting to figure it out too never said he wasn't a dick he's he just he's a good player right and you didn't he's not even a good player anymore okay but when you used to rip him dude he was good yeah come on he's overrated he was not you know what I think is kind of funny I I don't understand the this whole like listen what Jordan love did last year year against Dallas in the playoffs was great but Jordan love had a half of a season and now we're saying that this guy's a top five quarterback in the league I don't get it didn't he have a good game against Frisco the following week should have won that game right but what I'm saying is dude that's so then that goes by the same logic that everybody in the media not anybody sitting here is saying about Herz Herz had that huge year took him to the Super Bowl and now all of a sudden like if you look at Jordan love he's had what eight good games in a row the f right second half of the season that's it yeah I I think it comes down to these teams now are afraid that once a player looks like they're they got something you gotta pay him now you gotta pay or you're gonna have a problem like you're yeah well the fact that he had a better second half than first half that shows you that he progressed throughout the course of the season but it's only it's was half se he got paid for half the season I mean you could say the same thing about Herz he had a full season right and he got paid one season well he took him to the Super Bowl Jordan L right right he was one two three plays away I guess they should have won that game well actually if you look at Detroit really should went the Super Bowl and if Detroit right that's their coach right good for them right exactly surprises that made it I didn't think I'll be honest I didn't think Booker was going to make it Booker and I did say Patrick Johnson I did think they were going to carry 60 ends because I think think dep dep is an issue there yeah I'm looking through the names you aren't big on Eli Ricks we all know that right it's not that I'm not big on him I just thought the numbers games were against him I just didn't think what is your thoughts on Rex does he play now with like is he gonna get some well now with Bradberry yeah I think that helps and Sy Brown's Noto is gonna go for him yeah what's up with him think he's gonna be all right I mean he's not on pup so he's able to play he doesn't have to sit oh he didn't look good in the preseason game right coer Cooper didn't he look or was he all right I mean it was one game he's got he got beat a couple times but he was able to close um he forced the throw wasn't the best he got behind there the line he might have I mean he's not a guy that I'm expecting to start either yeah not not yet so who's our starting linebacker is it white and Dean I think so right now he beat out B Dean beat out bour oh it's white and Dean why who you think it is I thought it was white and Dean I they said Dean's been really like but that it scares me because those guys are both small yeah they're fast but they're small you're hoping that those big boys in the middle are just blocking up the run you don't have to tackle and run and those guys can cover the tight ends which have killed us over the years I think that's what you're that's what niobe's good at there's a position good at anything's I'm a little worried about and I don't know I mean obviously we talk about Ed rure but I do think Huff will be okay I think sweat but I like the safety position I like CJ but like dude I mean Reed's okay but I'm not like solding Reed and CJ is like an elite combo I'm kind of hoping that I think CJ's Really Gonna I do think CJ but like I don't know dude I'm not a huge blank and Chip guy he's all right W what is your thoughts on Reed he's not really serviceable yeah but like so he's make he's gonna make a lot of t or M get some run over him no I don't think mullum maybe let's see how he does I thought he was another guy that was on a bubble but they really like M where's he from I is he on drafted he was an Andre from two years ago I think I think this is his third year with the team really yeah yeah that's I was gonna say so what's the Achilles what I like their Corners I think I think Gan Mitchell's gonna be a freaking St I hope and I think their backfield is going to be improved especially as the season goes on get these guys some playing I mean CJ gner John CJ gner John gonna Rogers is is really gonna help right I agree with that so are they gonna play man or are they gonna play his own because I think if they're playing man and you got all the faith in uh q and and slay then I'm not as worried about do you trust fio because if you trust fio do you trust fio as a coordinator and as an evaluator of talent yes or no more than what they had okay but if you do then you have to think to yourselves there was Edge rushers out there they must believe in in somebody he they said he loved hunt that was the guy that he wanted he asked for hunt Okay at the draft so hunt Okay so if you're saying do you think what do you he like wasn't he one of the one they signed Huff when fangio was here yeah he was here but I think they brought back sweat I like sweat I think he's the guy that might end up getting I think sweat's the guy that might end up getting paid he's got to pick it up a right if he has a big year they're gonna bring him back he's got seven sacks think do you think there's a possibility swe and sweat did it the right way take down are these hot takes or these just my right Knees Down swe seven sacks what what his average in eight 112 last what did he get his first year how many sacks does noobe get from the linebacker spot or interception not that many Ian if Dean can stay healthy dude I do think he can play so you said sweat seven you might as well keep me you can keep me at my noan I said it noobe at what I didn't say or Deon who did you just say linebacker I said maybe Dean will get three sacks you had no one at eight yeah seven and a half eight take it down two of them you want sweat nine now you're going up what about uh have what we didn't even like talk about so like what is your over under for Herz total touchdowns total touchdowns yeah like you put yours down is he getting over 30 yeah total yeah I think I think 30 and a half is a good over 100 got like passing and rushing total that's a problem if he only gets 30 that's a problem passing and rushing you said total I said 30 total yes I'm over I'm over well do you think they're gonna be doing like so what's your numbers with Barkley do you agree with me that he could have 1,500 all purpose yards all together provid he plays every game yes you added you added 100 on it the last time I thought it was 14 good put 15 down how many touchdowns double digit 10 he should get 10 he should but what do we agree with because he should get he should take the touchdown the touches inside the five I'll take the 14400 allpurpose yards okay 10 touchdowns huh it really dude is AJ break his own record does he get over 18 I don't think is he get 19 17 no can reach I I'm giving him I'm giving him 13 no dude I'll take the over on that take over on 13 over I take the over you know what I'm gonna tell you dude Dev is getting 1100 plus all right so take those two now tell me where you're gonna get 500 plus for doson we're gonna I got you still think I don't know her's gonna have a 5,000 yard season I mean if they're going to Super Bowl right 4500 total he could reach he could reach four under four why yeah that video you showed the other day that Dallas with the run the the Reed oh well somebody was telling me that it was a free rusher I said there was no free rusher it wasn't a free rusher but he didn't have his you see SE Jo com at me what did he say Z Jord was coming at me no I didn't see that and I was just like bro don't let me exp on SE what did he say that that her didn't have a lot of time no Seth said that that's good why you tell him to get on our show he made the right by looking to AJ brown but he didn't throw at AJ Brown he threw to Smith and it was a little behind him right so I'm just like then you made my point right that he read the bleach I know some yeah but if you argue with him dude he just goes on and on some else 43 Phil's making a comeback boys because you're talk AJ throw AJ he made right he just made it too late 3700 that's the line I'm setting for is there what is the line for do you know what it is the line's up now it's three again it was one and a half now it's up to three again on ESPN what's it everywhere else Brazil greay game three next Friday it was one and a half two weeks ago now it's three I thought it was two and a half the other day it might three on ESPN right now yeah why do you really we I said this how long we have no we have no would it be funny we get like eight sacks in Brazil me and you can come here that talking andri about theine I'm not I'm not worried about I think H's gonna be decent from the Jets if there's a weakness though on this team I think it's safety you think it's safety I'm not a huge read guy dude C he's no I but I wanted I was hoping Cooper would take that by the no not yet or what about Avante Maddox he can't play I I'm not a huge Reed guy Reed's always looking behind dude he's not a good coverage safety he can tackle but he can't cover I I agree with you the only thing I will say about Bay who scared you Christian Watson on slay that's it they don't have a lot of great wide receivers either they also lost a running back everybody heard that right AJ Dylan's dumb yeah but AJ Dylan they got they got Josh Jacobs Josh Jacobs is all right but Josh Jacobs didn't have he didn't have a great year dude he had that great year as rookie year he was not that great I rookie year right no it wasn't his rookie it was two years ago but then he he had he had a good he had a good rookie didn't he have a big drop off last year yeah last year was not good and the the the Run he got paid more than bark the Run scheme for Green Bay doesn't fit his play either right and Green Bay he's not that's what I was say he's not thee that Green Bay runs n he went from 2000 like all purpose to what two years ago the giants made the playoffs what did he have yard no he had more than that it was like total total or I don't think he's gone over 15 dude that's the thing that people are missing with Barkley he he's been behind right and he and missed what three or four games every year at thec dude Barkley had 1300 yards rushing two years ago two years ago yeah 13312 rushing rushing well I don't know how many I don't know how many got a rushing title but how many allp purpose yards did Barkley have that's what I'm wondering because that's I don't think he's broke 1500 more than his rookie year and maybe that year see this only sh oh wait receiving yeah dude 2022 he had right around where we had it 1338 last year he had over a thousand he had 1100 allp purpose yards with the Giants and Daniel Jones yeah but I think if you look at Jacobs he's probably been over 13 every year uh not every year but most I don't I don't love him with Green Bay I don't I think they only fit that did were they one of the teams that went after Barkley think so I don't think so well he said four team and the only ones we know are the Tex 65 dude Jacobs had one really good year 22 he r600 23 yeah one year all right in 21 872 yards in 23 805 yards talking total yards is that total yards is that dude he doesn't he doesn't catch the ball he had 2000 total yards in 22 yeah two 22 he had 2,000 5 when and I guess that was what car were they still when they were playoff team or was that Devonte Adams Adams there that was Adams two years ago right no no I think that was Carr two years ago two years ago because car only played last year yeah actually was oconnell and yeah Aid oconnell is quarterback MCH mcho MCH got named quarterback yeah yeah we'll get into the rest of the league I want to talk about some of that stuff too um what who are your who are your three players that are GNA break out for the Eagles breakouts well okay I agree with that Dante good question milon Williams and I think quinan Mitchell I think quinan Mitchell has the opportunity to be like as good of a corner as SAU H yeah he yeah I don't like I don't like Mitch I mean I'd rather him be and put Rogers in the slot like he played in Indie you're sitting Rogers dude why why is m i don't think madx that good wherec but wasn't Rogers wasn't Rogers the yeah that's the problem he can't stay on the field was wasn't Rogers the slot I think he moved around I think he was mainly in the slot but he was he could play you took early for a reason why would you put him outside yeah you keep him in his natural spot yeah put him in his natural spot I don't get that I'm gonna go with Huff as a breakout player I'm gonna give he's not gonna be just a two down guy gonna they're gonna give him time 10 plus if he's going to be a breakout you gotta have I'm trying to think I'm going higher I'm trying to think I'm going higher are you going to go 15 no no I'm not going 15 I'm not going 15 I was sing 12 but I don't even think I'm comfortable going he said nobody on this defense 10 sacks I think Jaylen Carter could get 10 dou team parter got double team last year has to have a year I don't want those guys to get a lot of sacks though in the middle dude Carter that's what he did a Georgia if he can get if Carter can get Carter might play some end dude I'd be all right with that that's what I'm saying seven I'd be very happy if you 340 pound end Carter Carter's not Carter's not 340 that think what's Davis he's over three but he's not 340 Carter's not over three yeah I thought he was like 280 no no he's three he's a defensive tackle he's three dude he's not 340 yeah yeah I'm not saying he's a big F think defensive tackles are 300 plus he's more of like a 33 right now that's his that's his listed that's like being 58 right when he that means he's really 325 he's 54 de de who are your breakout players are you on the Barkley train do do you like do it wouldn't be a breakout here for Barkley because he's already done it if he get he gets 1,600 total that's break he get 13 that's what I'm I kind of like what you were saying um what we agreed yeah dude it's it must be a good night yeah because no I mean the wide receivers are already had their you know great years well I did say Devonte my break you would like to see it from G you would like to see a breakout Year from G but he's he's what six years in now seven years in yeah just I thought they were going to draft somebody last year they could have drafted the dude from freaking Georgia B the was he wasn't there b they had a chance to get Bowers no Bowers went before they no when did uh no Bowers went in dude bers went 12 dude come on Jim to trade and he talked about me not doing my I was thinking he was later yeah but Devon you know oh you talking about Nolan yeah but they just gave got that contract they weren't gonna do that right I'm could took I kind of was hoping that they were gonna trade well I was kind of open the the tight end from Dallas wasn't gonna get traded and we could have picked him up I thought henders shop would have been perfect oh where did he get traded to I just H was it no it was it was it no not s fr I forget Detroit no no I remember hearing it in the week so your breakouts are Colorado Devonte halim over for with the Colorado game Devonte dude I feel like do you think it's over Brown 24 Brown's already broke out yeah oh what do you think Smith Smith had his breakout year last year he only win th you don't think he was 11 yeah he was a thousand right he was a little more I think he was 12 yeah smiy Smitty was 1,200 L those guys were all right right then that's not really scratch then who's your breakouts how about touchdowns what if Smitty were to get like 11 touchdowns what did he get last year nine was it that high I didn't think it was that high the thing is it's 11 that's the thing is is like dude I'm like trying to figure out when they get in the red zone or still gonna Q sneak or are they gonna give it to Barkley I'm give it to Barkley that's what he's there for but do you think that's what they're gonna do because I don't I think they're going to run this this push push oh your boy Pretty Ricky yeah they're gonna yeah I I can still see them running it they're gonna run the tush push absolutely I think they're gonna run it but I when you say in the Red Zone do you think they're gonna run the tush push in certain situations you don't think as much as last year you said Red Zone you said red zone right but goal line goal line yes but I would goal line Barley's going to get it Go line you guys all thought I was crazy but I would I would do the tush push with Barkley line him up like the wild cat Phillies man could be tying it we're watching Jaylen out money there's money on the line 43 and then they got a double one out in the seven I swear to now it's 43 Braves but the Phillies have his man on second one out no I don't care dude we're doing yeah's he's being professional here focus is supposed to be here focused all right any any more roster what else I think we've all agreed that the the weakness is somewhere on the defense whether you think it's the safety the line yeah the line linebackers are a weakness but they're not the biggest weakness but they're they're you think B's a start you think Bon's gonna start over started in any practices is like the starter in every practice well we were there run with the you're like do you have do you have issues with Dean too no I like Dean I just think White Sucks how about this is TR is trer gonna steal either of their jobs by the end of the season dude I I'll be honest you want you want a prediction that white gets a midyear extension get Aid mid yes his birthday's coming up I might get him a Deon White and they like to pay guys if he has a good year they gonna pay him right yeah he's a guy they just brought in he's not one of their guys he basic one of their guys I can kind hinted at that up 54 C's bom let's go no get out of here Jim 47 to Center that's my guy come on Jim come on Jim the brave killer keep up let keep it up mick no it's up to the bullpen now what are we in seventh yeah yeah Nicki baby all right out a boy with two outs why do I keep doing that yeah I love I'm day one how much they RI me day one yeah I'm just Jim I'm just a dumb I'm just a dumb Jack on him does he realize that he's so hot that he's gonna end up ping Harper in RBI so hot I like how you said that SMY he's so hot he is hot right now hot so hot remember your sister hates him too right you you you misconstrue it it's not hate oh no indifference can you back me up a little bit he does not like Nick casanas come on not as a baseball player no no no hell just he's going to end up being end up being their second best player when he's hit him what 170 in April look at the tour turn around dude not hitting better than roas right now yes he is dude this more home runs roas has been more consistent since the all All-Star break yeah Nick on oh yeah he's over 300 Nick's way over 300 but Jim said that's not a stat that we should share nobody else is figuring out right dude yeah what would happen if ctios gain six World Series hits a bomb walkoff I'll give flowers I'll give flowers t-shirt I'll wear your casos H basketball jersey to a game with short shorts shorts old school ball hogers so you're so you're going with your breakouts are we're still on this you go man I want to see Mitchell have a good year yeah I think he's key if Mitchell has a good year then I think you probably don't bring Rogers back at that money let slw walk at that point move Rock then what do you do trade Ringo eventually don't they think Ringo could be an outside I think they like Ringo or does Rick slide into the slot I don't see slay coming back after this year you said 32 he didn't he played in 16 gam dude he just said that Ricks didn't play a lot last year yes he did he played more than Ringo did last year right yeah I don't because Ringo was hurt a little bit but I he he was not their seventh corner I think he's AE of Cooper plays more than all these I think he's aead of Cooper don't you yeah Perell I don't know if Cooper dresses in Brazil yeah he might be right he might be right he just came back he didn't look the best on Saturday but if next season if these guys work out if next season you're telling me we got Rogers q and uh Ringo and rxs that's why I don't think they caught Rick that he's watch 23 I yeah I hear you no you don't I like Rick unless we end up trading for Jamar Jase I I want to I know might be crazy but I want to see Carter have a breakout or not Carter dudee Davis have a you guys keep talking about Parson's coming I think it's hilarious he ain't coming Nate that Parson is coming no Nate said he's not coming pretty sure I got that on tap somewhere and one more gotta get somebody on offense let's go with G got I was hoping maybe you were gonna say Shipley well he's a rookie and I don't think he's going to get enough time to have a breakout year how about one of the linemen how about beckon beckon just being stand up and hurts doesn't get touched All Season that'd be nice dudee John doesn't give up because they have a dude that's that's actually yeah he is he's the starting guard beon starting oh yeah they do I take that back might get a mid extension right if they like him first round pick what do you guys think about back then I like the idea of him Big Mo I I like the idea of them right well dude that's like did you see did you see um the video where hunt was talking to his mom yeah and he talked about Jord myada and man he's like a man among men like he just he just tossed me hopefully he starts doing it there's there's who you wanted you want an offensive lineman my my yeah he had a Down Season he's kind of had the breakout year one of the best graded linemen in the league not wasn't is the year before his his first couple years he played really well considering considering where he came from how much experience he had and how young he was but after the second year he's kind of taking a step back here and there I remember last year there being games like what's he doing he looks lost out there by the end of the season who who your your boy Pretty Ricky say that no like PFF PFF he was like top five alline well PFF had Devon white the best linebacker in the off season dude what do you think's gonna end up happening with reic he just gonna sit out the week 10 with the Jets and then come back here if he came back here he would have to take less money and show and show remorse they're not gonna give him 30 million a year no he comes back on his old number he can't come back on his old number gonna come back in three years 39 million no for this year he's still under contract jets are not giving him back you're gonna have to wait till he's a free agent yeah but right jet not the hypothetical out if he came back get next year de I thought you meant this year I should I go down to the link and get the $40 jerseys what I mean you could get his jersey for 40 bucks right they go do it no not worth I don't believe that it's gonna happen kind of like the thought of you guys think Ben Simmons has come back to Sixers who said that I never said that Donal I do not Donald Donald did yeah fine I want nothing to no but he's convinced that if he gets released as a buyout Nate said he would take him back too Ben yeah no no let's not go there not even anywhere near basketball season no no no see I told you nope no stay home and play video games not with a 10 foot pole unless he wins US the championship He's Not Gon to be the reason why they win all right all you want to walk around the rest of the NFL do our quick rankings see who's goingon to finish where oh we're doing the divisions yeah we'll save our official Eagles prediction till next week we can go around the rest of the NFL unless you want to save the rest of the NFL till next week and talk Phillies now I mean you want to talk Phil keep bringing that video dude he keeps on like dude what video is it missed it whitein white didn't play that hard L he didn't want to get hurt oh come on that's your excuse he didn't want to get hurt he basically said that he he knew the he knew the Bucks weren't gonna pay him and he's like well I'm not gonna give maximum effort that's why maximum tack that was his plan dude you really think he's going to be that bad yes they gave him I don't think he's do you think he's gonna be that bad I don't think he's gonna be that bad I don't he's GNA bead if you look at the linebackers this team has had the last two years right so so then how can you say anything about him you by mid year you'll have a Devon white jur by mid year trer will be starting yeah probably if because cause uh Dean got hurt Dean's not Talent he can't stay healthy he's made of glass he's like ivante Maddox Maddox will be hurt the first game he tear his shoulder running out of B on the sideline that's what he does every game am I right Maddox is down he does get hurt a lot he's like Jason Peters remember help good would come back in though and then he would tap back in he hasn't officially retired yet right yeah he's coming back to I don't think he has dude guard on the Eagles no no dude he we brought him back that one year remember and he sucked he's stucked every year since then he's like delaying his Hall of Fame cases pretty he's uming his T yes he's tarnishing his is that why you think Kelsey got out because he wanted to get out the top of his game because nobody wanted to see him like losing dag losing uh or do you think he's like the podast yeah he probably could have G he had another two to three years left to at a pretty decent level so what do you think if one of their cers like got really hurt you think he no yeah I don't think either DJ I think if lorri came to him begging him to come back you what a blank check and and Lane and Jordan were like dude we need you we need one more year I think You' go to Kylie and say look hun I know the kids are getting older but they're not that age yet can I get one more year just one more year and she'd say yes if you get hurt your ass is out of here I don't she runs the show I don't think she's s your ass is out of here she's clocking on his muddy dog it's just as easy to say your asses out of here then right I mean she you're walking away with it you're walking away with it I they probably because D he remember he was not expected to be who he is Tri yeah he's just there were years there were years where we were saying this guy's too small yeah he's not projected him to be a hall of fam since was drafted sure the video there's guys on this team this this first of all you know when they drafted him they spelled his name wrong on Twitter yeah H with the S right yeah right yeah wow this is how fickle we are as a fan base right we wanted Kelsey gone we wanted Brandon gone well we all did well I I'll be guilty how many how many backup quarterbacks did we think were better than the starting quarterbacks we wanted AJ FY mcah mik McMahon uh it's the Demmer Brothers they weren't half bad they were okay I mean and Tai was the starter it was kuy who yeah came the back up and took over for a bit who else BBY he although he did start too didn't he for a while was Bobby bro in as a starter can't recall yeah I can't recall either but anyhow good luck to Jason right they just signed a big deal with Amazon y Nate's working on our big deal with Amazon we'll be there soon are we asking for numbers have been up we're just asking for $100 we even a 100 bills don't put our number out there yet all right thousand that's not good negotiation show the latest numbers man don't jump on that um all right you want to save the whole league till next week then I feel we should wa for DJ with the Don's here yeah yeah let's yeah let's wait for I want talk from college football he's not here to talk college football we can talk college football you can talk college football what are you gonna talk about whatever you want I know you think I I know you think Penn State's going to suck they're going to suck no I think you think that they're not going to be as they're not going to suck no I think you think they're not gonna be that good uh no I didn't say that well I just did they make the playoff they should should will I be will I be impressed by the making a playoff you wouldn't be impressed if they finish like as seventh best team in the country they're eight right now right right they finished top five would you be impressed they finished top five yes they would have to be why wouldn't you be impressed well because they were a couple years ago and they didn't make the playoffs and you guys all said it was your [ __ ] season no no [ __ ] no I agree they got robbed no I'm not talking they finished in top five a couple years ago and they freaking won the Rose bow or they won the Fiesta B whatever it was was that undefeated no no they were not undefeated they haven't been undefeated since 97 94 yeah I was going to say 95 that that year they they didn't even get a chance against thebr because they rolled freaking Oregon in the Rose bow and they still gave it that's when they one more undefeated season after that no they were finished 11 and one one year which you know was under Franklin but that's not good enough for Penn State fans either 11 and one was pretty good if you ask me 10 and two is pretty good if you ask me where did they finish 11 and one year I think they were what six or five no playoff right playoff doesn't impress me unless it's like a top does playoff impress you if they win a playoff game because they don't win at all but they win one of the they win the first game again it depends let's say they're eight n they beat Georgia and they go to the semi or quarters and they lose how good is Georgia I just told you they're the eighth team in the country Penn State's not oh I think you said all right I don't think if they go 12 the problem is is I agree listen I have the high expectations that you every other Penn State fan they should be a national champ they should but I also realize like reading into this day and age with this nil like Singleton had an interview and he's like dude like some of these colleges are just throwing exorbitant money that Penn State doesn't have is not caught up yet in the nil which is not I don't think that's a Franklin problem I think that's a university problem it's a it's a it's a university problem literally had an interview where said I was loyal to Penn State but there were teams that were ready to give me a b so what are you supposed to do like that's the part that I think we don't look at you see these kids get recruited and then it's like another team they have a good year and another team throws all this money at them what are you supposed to do so who's it throwing the money at them State doesn't have money to throw they don't have the nil money that some of these other school do why not why that why not why not I don't I can't answer that it because there's no faith in the program I don't no because AR's back in the N I just think they don't have the money that like a Texas does who has their own TV Network how are you supposed to be with that I mean you could say the Big 10 Network was Penn States until they started to suck no it wasn't the Big 10 Network was more freaking Ohio State Michigan but Texas has their own network dude Texas can pay whoever like if you're a kid like let's say you're de you go to Penn State for great year you have a great season and then somebody even throws money that might not be as good at you but they're throwing $5 million at you what are you gon to do as a kid you're taking the money I agree with Nate there's gota be a salary cap yeah I think it's out of it's out of control how about the guy that left Alabama went to Iowa's Hometown got nil and then went back to Alabama it's out of control but everybody can play Within those same rules and James Franklin is the greatest recruiter ever I he does a pretty good damn good job in recruiting that people don't give him credit for I think right now they have the number one for next year but keeping these guys is hards when you're throwing back how good is he at keeping them well the it's the money which is you can't pay everybody it's the money and it's not going to bowl games well they go to bowl games rose well not the Tostitos Bowl in the uh dude they've been TOS bows which are big deal the Rose Bowl the Fiesta those aren't small bulls they're not the big ones but if you some of these kids are leaving and not going to a playoff team they're leaving for the money the Rose Bowl is still a big deal right the orange granddaddy of them all come on Jim but like what are you supposed to do Jim are you if you're go let's be honest you're a great player at Penn State and even a team like West Virginia who's not that good is gonna pay you $2 million more what are you doing depends on when I'm going to be at at West Virginia if you're staying the big care about the money would you agree maybe they do 19y old kid cares about the money and a lot of need to have well that's like all right I go to West Virginia the team blows I got $2 million in my pocket but I'm getting no exposure you are getting exposure because they're you connecting you to a deal car dealership you're getting a free car no you're missing exposure for the NFL continue your career right that $5 million is great right now but if you go to a big time program aren't think that that came from they need to have well they need to have the advisor and that's what the colleges need to and I also think that a salary cap has to happen there yeah they're probably at some point there needs to be a cap because it's I mean you got aam I'm not even trying to throw any punches you got a team like Notre de who doesn't pay any Revenue has money out the ass and they're just paying guys you have what are you how are you supposed to compete with Oregon when they literally have the CEO of Nike yeah like that's that's the that those are the types of battles that like it's didn't have a problem with I believe that players should get compensated but I think it's out of control at this point I really do it is and and it's ruined college football yep yeah the whole the whole portal is the portal the portal is a joke nil and now what they're doing with conferences high school kids are getting paid I know have all ruined college football right so let's just say for example Penn State has his freshman wide receiver has a great year chances are somebody's gonna throw a bag at him that's bigger because they have more money they cap it or they put some type of stipulation like you take x amount of dollars you have to stay with the school or people like you and fan are missing it's like you can have all the great talent in the world but if these kids are leaving for money there's really not much you can do what with the alumni base that Penn State has they have an an incred they incredibly loyal but some of these boosters in the SEC dude you can't compete with that they've been paying these guys for years so think about that well yeah so time out football players have been getting paid almost so what I'm saying isual cash or you have like booster you got you know some of the things are getting promised to these guys girl like yeah I mean you know scandals have been going on for and as much as you guys don't as much as you don't want to hear this Franklin doesn't run a dirty program and he doesn't take any kid and that's the problem and I commend them for that but that's the problem of why you're not getting this kid from imitat that might go to Ohio Ohio State because Franklin sees the stuff that he does off the field and he doesn't want them but we're getting five stars you're telling me we got top recruiting classes every other year I mean allar was a freshman last year I think people need to pump the braks he had 20 touchdowns and two interceptions in his first year as a starter it's pretty good but the Jim's point we keep hearing how how great these recruiting classes are to keep coming in and yet they can't get over because a lot of guys are leaving with the portal that's what you're missing okay and that's all over college football why are you not winning the years that they're there if you're a freshman dude and you don't play a lot you're leaving right like all right so explain to me the usage of Singleton and Allen last year they both played they're both two top running backs like what you think they should only play one I'm just saying like it didn't make a difference like it did make a difference they didn't have wide receivers that was a problem last year now they got all these kids from what Central Bucks or whatever no I don't know where you guys are getting that from Central said that well FL talks out his ass I don't know it's it's dude it I just think that in this day G this way of college football it's it's it's all about it's going to collapse on itself eventually if they don't put some regulations in right right and I think some things are out of program the weight of the money that's being thrown around promises it's empty promises but these kids dude they if you come from no money you're taking whatever you get that's no but what I'm saying is Nick Sav but Nick Sav even lost players yeah but Nick sa's talking from his 100 Acre Mansion like oh I agree with youan these players don't know what but like my thing is I think if mil do nothing no but my thing well he's probably one of the best coaches of all time so I can't say he doesn't do nothing I'm not saying but I know what you're saying wouldn't be but what I'm saying what I'm trying to get Jim to understand is like P Franklin can bring in this kid but if after a freshman year he's like somebody's gonna pay him more money he's leaving and and and you can't pay everybody and you can't pay everybody that's the problemon don't like look at Justin Fields dude look at what no but look at what Ohio State paid him before there was even and he even admitted it how are you supposed to compete with that and that's a thing that unless you want to play dirty which nobody's mentioning that's not dirty now the effect that the all this is having on coaches that's what I'm trying the portal all this is having a negative effect It's a Grind it's exhausting now for coaches because not only do they do they recruit kids once they get them they have they're recruiting them constantly keep oh they brought roas and I think I think that's a Bigg reason why Jay Wright got out I think it's a Bigg reason why Mike shy got out I think it's a big reason why Nick Sav got it and I think they don't want to deal with the grind and the thing is dude like you got programs like Michigan that openly cheated how are you supposed to they literally knew people's place you really want P State the stoop to that level they won a national title that's outside of the nil stuff that's outside when when did nil come into three years ago now it's I mean I think it's goes with d says I think some of these programs have been dirty years I I'm not disagree did it and I I don't disagree with you there how long has Franklin been the coach 10 years so over 10 years you're gonna tell me he's lost all these they yeah I'm not they're not Crystal you know whe whether he has or other boosters have somehow gotten money to players but you're gonna tell me that 10 years nil's really only been I'll give you four five Max tell him that guys been no I said not the dirty stuff well but see you're missing that Franklin's not gonna play the dirty stuff he may not but there's people around him it's the boosters oh it's h it's not Ed LZ or whatever whatever oh oh RC just heard himself I don't know Jim I'm just saying you this started out they started out with what's what's a successful season or what's a how do you put it I would say 10- two 11 and one in a playoff bir is successful still they make the playoffs what what are the two games they lose is it Ohio State and Michigan again they don't have Michigan this year so it's Ohio State and West Virginia no you maybe at USC but I think they could go 11 and one and honestly if this is the year that they can be might be this year because their quarterback is not that good at Ohio State and it's at Happy Valley I think the line right now will Howard who they paid out the nil cords and Syracuse if um is he really yeah oh wow he's getting paid yeah if Penn State goes 11 one and makes the playoffs they have to win a game they have to win if they host a home game for sure no they have to win a game you can't keep put these IPS around well they have to be I 11 and one I would assume they would get HomeField I don't care if they're playing on Jupiter they gotta win oh my God they gotta win dude if they finish 11 and one that's G to be top seven it should be probably maybe even top five it should be but it also they're gonna they well they probably won't finish because they're gonna have to probably beat or Oregon in the Big 10 Championship so I don't know dude it's really gonna depend how good allr is and how good this new offensive coordinator is because he's supposed to be kind of like the guy that K moris he's supposed to be like moving guys in space and I don't know if it doesn't work out he'll get fired I don't think Jimmy and Jimmy frankco will hang on again for another year because he's got 17 more years left on this ridic what would you do if they actually won a title under Franklin I would say thank you but would you still rip him for or would you give him a pass now because if you win a title you to add Penn State it ain't easy no he wins a title I would say all right James you figured it out after 11 years oh my god dude it took and Kirby Smart 10 years to do it that's what you're missing you think it just you wake up and you WI a national title ain't that eil no I think you you nobody thinks this you beat your Rivals you're competitive you don't [ __ ] the bed I mean dude it's hard to beat Michigan Ohio State as Ohio State Michigan they've beat they can't for some reason they can't beat Ohio State $20 million you saw that what Ohio State paid right this year for players tell me you saw that article ESPN 20 to30 million what's stopping Penn State from doing it that's that's not dirty though it's not it's all within the rules now that's a little you don't think they're bringing in that much with those what do they get six games a year at home or I don't know what he struck out he tied it up is it two two outs USC might be t he's gonna hit Homer he still 54 yeah dude you're gonna give Nikki his flowers who's on the mail Hoffman are you gonna give Nikki his flowers or you not gonna give a boy Nick dude what's he gotta do what's he gotta do what you say he just won the Houston game the other night on and then he wins in Atlanta and it's never enough would you agree Jim or de yeah said out a boy yeah no get out of here and then tomorrow he does something stupid part part of it Smitty I think he just pushes your ball he's radical in your cage I don't do that no no well DJ is just bad he like he he calls him ay and then he loves him he also he also wants to get rid flop he wants to get rid of bone last year now bom's the greatest thing since slice Breo casos right all Phillies we're on the Phillies I I was hoping it that it would end and we could just go right into it but what that they six teams up I what convince yourself that they're still the team they should be and they're still a favorite for the World Series um come on Nate don't well I think I think that t are serious they looked a lot better against playoff teams in Kansas City and Houston I think that Ranger Suarez has looked better and I think ranger Suarez gonna be K he's gonna be K he's gonna be K and Hoffman and him and Sanchez are I mean Sanz start the game Well's gonna have to hit and and schwarber and casos can't just be one that's the problem no open your ears because I'm GNA say it castios has been the most consistent hitter on this team since the All-Star break the saying the bigger no I'm saying it because you say I always rip him and I don't like him keep going turned it around he's been the best since the off the rest of the guys have stunk watch between three people can we watch the Nick interview Nate can you make sure you turn that off because you know he's going to be like are they got to give him the uh the shower at mcarthy like what about that pitch what do you mean about that pitch I saw it I hit it next question DJ just said it's the best win of the year so far can you yes remind them remind them what say who who who was the who was the player who gave casianos that meatball it wasn't roas could it's uh yeah they really if they take three out of four gy they win the division okay do you agree yeah eight up the Mets I think I think the Met yeah I think there's somebody in between that they have they had a run they had a run and but they haven't they haven't been playing well recently though right didn't they drop like three to last four of the Mets sry tell they took the first game in the series against the Braves they win the series they gota win this tomorrow night this is the Clincher for the East is that what you're saying right now SMY they win the series yeah they go up seven or eight with 20 six to go against four games against the last series yeah but they're playing the freaking 2007 some many teams that are coming in the Ray I I I'm not counting the big Series this is the last series with the Braves right we have the Mets two more series now it's Marsh because he had the three run Nick probably like I don't want to get interviewed Nate you know like got sweaty what this is the last series with the Braves right yes two more with the Mets one home one away I think there's yeah and I think one's a four game they don't have brewers brewers coming in they have to go at the Brew that's gonna be tough but dude Tampa Bay Toronto yeah I I'm just trying to think um the series coming up that we need to win what's going to convince me is I need wheeler Nola and Suarez to have some starts where they're pretty much like tail and I need St to step up no I know he did but I'm saying like consistently going into the pl so is Sanchez are they gonna win 100 is he gonna be four we got the Blue Jays Marlins yeah Marlins Rays Mets Brewers the walk at Washington Cubs at Washington so it's two two Mets and one Brewers right that's two met one Brewers we got those are yeah those are the those are the series you gota worry that's at Milwaukee you said right right but we just gotta win one and we take the like the thing is with the Dodger that we finish with the same record we get field because we took what whatever it is yeah we got the tie here G A lot of people have been ripping on Marsh too he's been heading now too they have to have the best record in the league oh no the Dodgers are 79 and 54 so the Dodgers the fight 79 and 55 so to convince you I think that it I think it has to it has to be I need Harper to get going right yeah yeah the the and I need Nick to continue to hit and I'm a little worried if boom's hurt that's another problem the big bats need to wake up and I think if it it looks like the starting pitching is starting to steady itself a little bit and even the bullpen is starting to stady itself a little bit I think top the top three we still don't four and five are very questionable [ __ ] tonight didn't he what he give up four how many innings did he pitch did he make it a five I don't know if he up four runs I think at five he hasn't been that great as of late but yeah that's not a good start but I mean and the other thing is Willer he's not getting a win but he's had like how many quality Stars it's just the Phillies don't hit when he pitches kirking he came in the six whoever's on the mound when they had the lead you're right Sanchez went five and two3 eight strikeouts we gave up oh two earned runs that's it two made a freaking all right well maybe it's not that bad it was just the Home Run two bombs the Home Run yeah all right so maybe it wasn't a horrible start and then kirking was lights out St was lights out and Hoffman was lights out two strikeouts saying don't worry everything F I'm not saying don't worry I think I think if Harper and schwarber get go schwarber is gonna be Catalyst as the leadoff hitter he needs to get on base if he needs a draw walks or he needs to start hitting home runs come playoff time you're he needs to get on base I need Harper and somebody else to hit Turner say Turner real mudo well real stock start hitting well that's what I said somebody else needs to hit the playoffs Nick's been if Nick can say what he's doing good right right he's been the most consistent hitter right him and roas surprisingly well roas hasn't played much to call him consistent when he's in when he's in he's hitting right when he's in he's hitting yeah he's over 300 since whenever if you can get JT Trey wow definitely Harper you want said Dion's gonna be out of Colorado say that Taiwan out at a starting rotation that would that's we knew that before we left yeah he went in a bullpen yeah I didn't know that Oh I thought you when did they announce it today or yesterday no to afternoon you were probably buddy I was working it's they're bringing up Tyler Phillips again which I'm he5 not Allard or I know I would too who else was oh so actually dude the magic the magic magic numberers down to 23 oh stop it with the magic num dude it's August dude we should have been if we were on the tear we have Jim right we on it' be like seven the way they were going so you just said you don't think they can get to 100 still I I don't got4 left what are they at 79 no 79 and 55 and how many games I don't know do the math about 30 what's that I think it was that many he's got it 134 so they're 28 162 minus 1 yeah 28 so they'd have to go like 217 yeah that's not happening don't assume that I I I think they're starting the steady themselves out but we got to get more more hits more more batting out of Harper Harper's got to start hitting home RS schwarber's got to start hitting home runs again um Stott he's been in the funk all year I don't know what's up with this guy well you I told you what it is what they they Maryfield which Jim kind of called in the beginning year G hasn't been here for two long yeah but he dude you think that just didn't get him into a Groove well and then he doesn't play him against lefties so he's sitting a lot he hasn't when's the last time he played him against the Lefty has looks like Marsh might be picking it up at little bit Marsh has 14 home runs yeah he's up if they can get the back you know I think really clear I think Hoffman dude Hoffman's going to be Hoffman's goingon to be have to be like the maton of 08 yeah right and stum has got to be your JC Romero right the left get him two or three Innings out yeah yeah out of Orman two no not Hoffman Hoffman I only want for one I'll take two out of I think seven eight n is what you're going to look at you're hoping that your pitchers go six and you go STM Hoffman the but you could flip that and go and you got a factor of Alvarado it's a personal matter I don't know I hope it's not good it doesn't seem like it's good for him maybe it's I don't know what happened him he just left the team they gave him like an excuse I don't know if he's having like M yeah he said he no Alvarado oh so I don't something going on it wasn't an injury it just said it was personal yeah know what knows never like here inette right because you know I'm as much as I get annoyed with alberado he's on he's on the one playoffs dude he was like you know he's strong if he's on it's it's actually the three of them him hopping has any any of them I would put in in the n in the ninth I'm saying I like St is more I agree with that stretch relief yeah I those guys the other three for the ninth I'd take any of them when they're on that's the problem nobody has really been on for this team in a while no pitching or batting if they if they get three out of four I will definitely be on their their back wagon what train Phillies if the Phillies who we facing they're definitely back who who's tomorrow I'm going Suarez and Rodrigo Lopez they don't they miss Chris and then I think they have who goes after Suarez um well Sanchez won tonight yeah is it gonna be it's probably gonna be Tyler Phillips and then it's gonna wheeler ier the guy that killed us the other night remember the guy that threw like eight Innings yeah had like I I don't know tomorrow's gonna be tough Lopez versus Suarez I'm looking forward to that match up well yeah that that's going to be tough if they win tomorrow the game with they ask is now as much as I like a four game sweep but if they win tomorrow and all they and they split Saturday Sunday they're fine they take three out of four and they have a five- two home stand against the Astros and the Braves that's okay right yeah do you and do you like just let Phillips do what like if they win tomorrow what if Phillips is having trouble just let him keep going like they did with Taiwan like we don't want to didn't Phillips have a little success oh no he's he had success as a reliever against some Joe White saying it's gonna be Suarez wheeler aen and then Phillips on Tuesday versus a blue JS maybe because you know what they it Suarez Lopez Tom marel that's that would make sense because they gave wheeler the extra day oh yeah sense and then no go Sunday night yeah that would make sense y well I guess Saturday were you watching that with the college football I forgot about that game definitely they were making a big stick about all night Affair seems like stay whatever they made a big stink about wheeler giving him the extra day because he only likes to pitch on four well they did that to they were trying to bump taiwon Walker's startup and I don't understand what that was about oh so we could so they didn't have to pitch against Atlanta because then Walker would went tonight it makes sense that you look at it now but do you think wheeler was really annoyed with that because they not probably not now if he gets to go against Atlanta probably not he got to go against Houston he goes Atlanta so probably not right because didn't he go game one against Houston yeah he went Monday night he beat yeah he beat he he went against what was the who do they play over the weekend that they got bumped out of that series Kansas City I don't think he cares about that that was the he got bumped out city but then he went against the Astros and the bries yeah okay I don't know I mean who knows but I mean they they haven't convinced me that they're back home Field's going to help but it's only they're only going to go as far as these bats take them yeah right yeah yeah I mean wheeler and Noah seem to show up in the playoffs right Noah even does he doesn't really get robbed if you look at his history but the bats I think if the team scores six to seven runs they're hard to beat they're hard toat if you score six or seven even five you should win you should like the brave well Brave yes no I'm talking yeah because you should be able to bring in your your lights out yeah yeah all right what's your predictions for the weekend they take three out of four they sweet I think they go three out of four that's what I'm thinking yeah we're looking at Suarez if Suarez Suarez Willer Nola well if Suarez wins tomorrow that's gonna be the toughest one because Lopez has an ER of like two yeah so you're right then you get yeah you could could be a sweep you could what about you br anything on the Phils Eagles white still sucks well he he wants to touch on we'll close it out with this yeah Shady McCoy oh yeah that's awesome going into the Eagles Hall of Fame Y is he an NFL yes Hall of Fame running back yes yeah yes I think he should I didn't look at his stats to compare them to guys that are in there uh 11 I got they're they're coming up here on the screen at some point where's he on the all time list I I I need to compare him against the all time I didn't do that but I think he's got 11,000 Russian to yard or 11,000 rushing yards and basically 4,000 receiving and Nate Shady Shady Hall of Famer all 22nd all time all right do you think he deserves to be in theall dude for he made the what was it the wasn't he on the he was one of the old c000 who 4,000 yeah Fred Tor still wow Fred Taylor Stephen Jackson does surprise me because he got injured a few years3 touchdowns Cory Coryell played a lot longer 89 touchdowns Edge dude I can't believe Fred Taylor's still not yeah Fred Taylor surprises me Dylan had Dyan had a couple big seasons and then some bad Seasons didn't he also get in trouble remember he suspend it and then he end up with the Patriots he did something he's he's not gonna be a first ballot it's gonna take take handful of tries is we talked about this I think he does if it wasn't for Aaron Donald he'd probably beat him everybody everybody 73 touchdowns rushing that's all he need 15,000 over how many seasons Fletch would be the most dominant NFL lineman if not for but didn't they say that about Dawkins too and then he end up getting with Reed and Lynch still like I think Fletcher Cox see the thing about D is it wasn't a dtac he he he kind of redefined the position and he also was the most dominant at his position he wasn't more dominant than Ed Reed or Troy palala early on I think he's got more interceptions than Reed yeah I don't didn't he wasn't a first out wasn't dude do you think Dawkins was Dawkins didn't get in before Ed Reed and Troy did they no that's what I said I thought so who was a better safety as much as I like dokins Reed and so was palalo yeah so I'm saying Fletcher Cox even though Aaron Donald was better Fletcher should get in probably not first bason depends on depends on the season think Jason absolutely I think so yeah especially with his podcast that continues no I think so what you I'm just saying it gives him more exposure to the rest of the league you gotta go by that's why I'm telling you right now Peters if he would have retired at when he should have he would have been first batt now he's be you got to think about it though it's not a sexy position right you're talking about Hall of Fame you want you want quarterbacks you want running backs you want receivers you want right that's what say AG I'm agreeing with you yeah so people are like Jason Kelce what position did he play he was a center but he's got that people know him now because and he'll be on be on it shouldn't be based on the it should be based on the field because he had all proceed any anyone a Super Bowl anyone a Super Bowl went to two he was the best center what seven eight years but if he comes up with a season where there's guys retiring that are in in the sexy positions or there's guys from your prior that didn't get it on the first ballot that's my thing but I he should be he should be first ballot no questions I think guys like clch might not be first CU When when you get when you get the first team all Pros not you're in the conversation of Hall of Fame is AJ four you're pretty much there you get the five you're a lock he's got six I think the same for Peters Peters should be Antonio Brown they're not gonna put Antonio Brown in he should be I would be first yeah without a doubt dude I don't think has he officially retired yet he was gonna be like no I'm saying is AJ Brown on the trajectory being Hall of Famer on the trajectory AJ Brown already a Hall of Famer I don't think AJ's think Anon Brown in be I agree but I don't think they put him in don't put who in Antonio Brown no not job well that and the same with Kelsey getting the exposure he's getting the opposite exposure for the whack whack out things he does you think I don't think the NFL is like like MLB Antonio Brown only had a couple good years in PS once he got traded out of Pittsburgh look at his numbers Antonio Brown had like four good years in Pittsburgh remember and then he had one good year in Tampa he didn't play that long top Antonio Brown's top 10 ever bro he's got like he averaged like, 1500 yards and like 10 touchdowns for like four five years yeah but I don't think that's a longevity right if you have the numbers I mean if if you're doing those numbers over 15 years you're doing that numbers over seven years all right now we're talking gonna get in the Sean should get in he should for oh now now you're changing when I said DJ look at his look at his total yards his total yards dude he's got the most touchdowns of 50 yards or more by far it's like 59 isn't he behind Jerry no he has more than Jerry for I'm not just talking the 50 what's what first no he's not he's first but Jerry's got overall I saw thing a couple days I was surpris I thought it was him yeah but it's jar it's not like a huge I think it's like a five touchdown difference what's his total yardage though he's not going to get in no that's not that's not good enough 641 catches 11263 yards 58 touchdowns set he led the league in yards per catch four times wait he's only got 58 total touchdowns 58 receiving touchdowns yeah so he's got what 70 total tops more like 65 Jerry Rice Jerry Rice has touchdown kick returner on wide receiver and shares the record for 50 plus touchdowns in a season eight but most all time Jerry not a career Jerry's 36 yeah oh I'm I'm sorry most 60 yard plus touchdowns is what he leads he's got the most in NFL history 60 yards that's pretty big deal dude most 70 plus and he's sixth all time in NFL history in yards per catch average minimum 500 catches six Dante Hall got in basically because 13 she averaged 15 yards plus per catch T where's he on total yard he was a decent wide receiver but not hall of fame wide receiver yeah he's a Hall of Fame returner you don't yeah no I'm saying I'm comparing him to Dante Hall he's got the most 60 yard touchdowns all time that's pretty damn good yeah no I'm not arguing that but that alone won't get you in it's not enough dude he average he's in the top five all time of yard per catch a think do you think he's all Famer I don't think he's not a first Bell but I think he gets in yeah he gets in you don't think he gets in Nate you not only do you have to have numbers but heard I've heard a lot of people in in all the different sports say you have to dominate your position for about a decade you have to be the best at your position for about a decade to really solidify a Hall of Fame career I don't think that stands anymore nobody plays a decade anymore well okay Domin for a couple years top five he's top receiver yeah oh djck yeah yeah but not 10 years no no not 10 years not even seven or eight years no Jackson became the first play NFL player in history to earn Pro Bowl in All Pro H is a kick returner my receiver he's F he's tied the NFL record with eight touchdowns of 50 plus yards in a single season he's two behind Jerry Rice for 50 yards most 60 plus touchdowns he's top in the NFL 52.8 yards per score during the season was the highest in NFL history among players with at least 10 touchdowns in a season those are like select stats so that's still I don't think became the fifth player in NFL history to have eclip 900 or more receiving yards in each of his first four season Seasons yeah I think he gets in I'd like to see him get in I'm just say he might be like a yeah I'm not saying he gets fourth year yeah he's not getting yeah he's not first ballot no I don't think I and you know did he ever wait did he play in Super Bowl no I don't think was he not on the Rams I'm thinking was he on the Rams maybe he was I think he's got a ring W I think he's got a ring did he get a ring with the Rams was he he might have been with them what year the Rams went 21 yeah he was with them in 21 I thought he got traed he didn't get a ring there no he didn't yeah he went to Las Vegas he won did he and then but he did get a ring because he was on the team he didn't he didn't he didn't finish with him he didn't yeah yeah he wasn't he wasn't on the sidelines for that Super Bowl I think you know playoff uh experience helps your case yeah and he doesn't have a whole lot of playoff experience all right we went down to to Sea Jackson idea Paul Jerry Tio Randy Isaac Bruce Tony Gonzalez Tim Mar Andre Johnson Jes just got andeve Steve Lin Charlie join Joiner Calvin joh who did you say just got him recently the Dante Hall Dante Hall Dante he's better than Dante Hall Dante Hall he went as as a returner Smitty not as a wide receiver no he he was returner no he wasn't dude you're wrong Dante that was his main position but wide yes but he didn't go in as a wde look at his numbers as a wide receiver so then you're solidify my point cuz Jackson was a great special teamer and a great wide receiver so he's a dual threat how many touchdowns did Dante have as a kick returner how many did Sean have and then how many and I more explosive plays than Dante Hall four yeah how many did Dante Hall have total yeah how many touchdowns did D he played receiver he did he didn't get he probably didn't have yards as a receiver 14,000 yards just on the returns and then he had a thousand uh receiving Ys for a career yeah yeah he didn't heing yeah so he went in as a returner not a receiver Jackson m is a dual threat that carries more weight he was an elite returner and he was also a great Wide Receiver right now you're you're kind of solidifying my case because you agree was a great special teamer and he was a great wide receiver you wasn't Dante H he wasn't he wasn't but he wasn't expected to be but then that's all he was doing at the end right when he went the other teams because he wasn't dude I think having fifth most all time yards per catch is a big deal yeah it's not just like I'm not the the yeah the individual stat I want total yards and do you think total yards I think total yards gets them in the conversation yeah and then you and then you have to look at all time he's got the most 60 plus yard explosive place it it helps yeah I think we're all saying he's not a first ballot I think de saying he's it I didn't say he was wasn't in I think he's in the conversation he's in the conversation but's not a first yes he is yeah dude I've heard a lot about you don't think he's in there I need to look at some of the guys that keep getting passed over sh Shady's in the conversation I don't I don't know if he gets in is Cox when he's T Co yeah he's definitely in the conversation he gets in I don't even think it's a conversation it's just a matter of when think he yeah I don't know if he goes in first ballot but Peter gonna have to wait now he gets in but yeah because he hasn't officially retired yet yeah uh he he dude he he's probably had six years now where he sucked would you agree I don't know if he's officially retired yet that's the thing he's not he depending on a year he could be a first first ballot I remember people who thought Ur was gonna be a tight and then he fell off yeah now a getting and Malcolm jenk doesn't have the numbers Jenkins isn't even conversation no no I'm just trying to think of eagles that would be but you guys like you forget about the whole veteran vote too like those guys can still get in not but how long did it take for carich to get in that's how Eric Allen's gonna have that's how gonna have to get in he's going to have to get in on the veteran down that's crazy that's a crime and didn't some people say Joiner as much as but he don't have the numbers or does he Seth jiner was was a great player for a strike great player is do Seth Jord have the numbers Eric definitely ER definitely yeah Eric Allen has better numbers than guys that already in there yeah yeah that was the bar tlor some dogs back there yeah yeah yeah for sure and he played on a great defense for a long time too yeah where he was like the fifth best yeah yeah maybe the guys they got to him were already beat up yeah exactly so he just had to touch them and Tackle them if they made it through but he I take him on my team any oh absolutely yeah sure and I and obviously Brand's not Don's not Don's not a Hall of Famer right or is it close he has the numbers yard Donan would have made it to a Super Bowl if he won a Super Bowl he gets in right he didn't make he didn't win an MVP did he no no he's got the numbers though he's still Eagles alltime numbers if vict didn't and kill dogs he's definitely I don't I don't think so dud I stats too but he didn't wi MVP did he yeah Vic won an MVP with Atlanta didn't he no I don't think so and he never got past the NFC Championship Game wi an MVP in Atlanta he only played in one NFC Championship game think did and he got smoked just broke yeah he's had some good season got like top three in votes like twice I I don't I mean that's and was he All Pro would he make the all pro team probably yeah he that's the best quarterback he never progressed his game progress G when he got here we're gonna go down way deep but now this is where I yeah I look at guys like Dan Fels never won anything just's got huge numbers Mar so these guys have huge numbers like yeah why not why are they not going to get hit like Vic to me is the best threat quarterback of all time not close he reinvented the Dual threat position was the what he said is the first one to do it Randall was the first one to be a d yeah but they didn't really let Rand go not to the extent but early on he they did no Vic before Vic was Vic was more no I'm saying what Randall he thinks Randall was just Randall was not Rand was good Rand redefine if you're talking about dual threats he was the first one to really do that he was but not somebody else that did not on the level that Vic came in dude but he was the first one did it Miss no missing your point you're missing my point he was the first one to do it weapon I get it yeah but he didn't did he ever have a thousand yards rushing the season 900 something I think Rand he was pretty close Randle TI Randall tipped the scale to start to start saying wow quarterbacks don't need to just thr the joystick right or no or was that uh that was Dante right oh yeah well look at his coaching here that kind of piss me off they should have want Super Bowl yeah if if his quarterback coach doesn't die then I think he's a better quarterback here if he wins If he if they win the Super Bowl does reg no yeah you really think if they wanton to Super Bowl regie white stage St here yeah yeah if they win yeah yeah because then he's gonna get whatever money he needs didn't want to pay him right brayman was an [ __ ] right so what makes you think the guy in France do you think if Lori was here Reggie Weiss and Eagle for life if they won if they won yeah when he went to when he went to Green Bay Green Bay wasn't that good he took the money he yes it was a money grab right so what I'm qu shador Sanders I think Conor's gonna go in the top 10 too all right maybe I'm gonna shut it I'm gonna shut it down I'm gonna shut it down we can talk about this all talk about this Saturday I'm be pulling up some hall theme set well we'll have it ready for next week then all right next week we'll go we'll do our official Eagles predictions NFL predictions we'll give two minutes to the Phillies next week it's going to be heavy football next week because we actually it'll be the start night before actually yeah we got to give our prediction for there be a game at KC Baltimore Thursday night and then the birds are playing Friday so everybody come in prepared not like tonight they came prepared you guys are just we know everything yeah we know everything it's right here the last topic good yeah and then you played on your phone all but uh we we'll make we're ready to bring it it'll be the start of another season this will be season seven for us for us I think sounds about right 18 19 20 21 so wait how long have I been with you guys ma three 24 19 three years now no eight y have I no I feel like it's more than three years wasn't it we've been we've been here in the basement for a year a year now a year plus yeah yeah this is this is off thee a conversations all right until next week be ready for our Eagles predictions and until then be excellent to each other