>> Pete: OK. SO IT'S COOL IF BIDEN'S STANDING OVER THE GRAVE. GOT T.CONGRESSMAN JOINS ME. YOU'VE BEEN IN WASHINGTON AS ALL THESE HOAXES HAVE BEEN PERPETUATED. FOE ONE REALLY CAN GO ON THE RECORD. NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED. THE MEDIA'S HYPERBOLIC ABOUT IT AND IT'S AL MEANT TO COVER UP SOMETHING THEY'RE ASHAMED OF. THE PRESIDENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. DONALD TRUMP SHOWED UP. >> YEAH, PETE. I HAVE TO SAY MY HEART JUST BREAKS FOR THESE FAMILIES THAT MUCH MORE. THIS WAS REALLY THE MOST DESPICABLE -- THIS MADE-UP REACTION IS ONE OF THE MOST DESPICABLE THINGS I'VE SEEN. BUT LET ME JUST READ YOU A QUICK QUOTE FROM ARMY VETERAN O'HARA. SERGEANT O'HARA WHO WAS IN THE OLD GUARD. HE SAID "I WATCHED PRESIDENT TRUMP SPEND MORE TIME AT THE GRAVES, WITH THE FAMILIES, THAN I'VE EVER SEEN A POLITICAL REPRESENTATIVE DO BEFORE. NO RUSHING, NO HANDLERS TRYING TO MOVE IT ON. JUST HIM TRYING TO SHOW GRATITUDE AND LOVE THESE FAMILIES FOR THEIR LOSS." THIS WAS A VETERAN WHO HAD LITERALLY SPENT HUNDREDS OF TIMES, HUNDREDS OF GRAVE SITES, WREATH LAYINGS. I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU WHILE WE WERE DOWN THERE, ONE OF THE FAMILIES COULDN'T MAKE IT SO I PULLED OUT MY PHONE AND SAID HEY, MR. PRESIDENT. DO YOU MIND CALLING THE MOM AND FACE TIMING HER? ABSOLUTELY, MIKE. AND SPEND THE TIME. BY THE WAY YOU AND I HAVE BEEN TO SECTION 60. >> Pete: OF COURSE. >> PROBABLY DOZENS OF TIMES OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. WE ALWAYS TAKE PHOTOS WITH OUR BUDDIES, WITH OUR FELLOW GREEN BERETS AND SPECIAL OPERATORS WITH THE TOMBSTONES, SEND THEM TO FAMILIES. IT'S A SPECIAL PLACE. HECK, FAMILIES CAMP OUT THERE FOR THE DAY ON MEMORIAL DAY. THOSE FAMILIES WANTED HIM THERE. THEY HAD EVERY RIGHT TO HAVE HIM THERE. AND IF YOU WANT TO PARSE BETWEEN CANDIDATE TRUMP AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, GIVE ME A BREAK. KAMALA HASN'T BOTHERED TO CALL HELP THEM IN FOUR YEARS, MUCH LESS SIT DOWN WITH THEM OR BE THERE THAT DAY. IT JUST IS -- ANYWAY, IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. >> Pete: AND YOU WERE THERE AND SO THE THINGS THAT THE MEDIA'S SAYING HAPPENED ARE THINGS YOU DIDN'T WITNESS AND EVERYONE -- NOT AT ALL. >> BY THE WAY TRUMP'S TEAM ORIGINALLY WAS NOT GOING TO LET THE MEDIA THAT TRAVELS WITH TRUMP OUT OF THE VAN AT ALL, AND WE TALKED TO THE FAMILIES AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE CAMERAS IN YOUR FACES. THERE MIGHT BE A FEW PHOTOGRAPHERS AT A DISTANCE, AND THEY SAID WE WOULD LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE WANT THIS MOMENT CAPTURED FOR ULF HISTORY. THE FAMILIES WANTED HIM DOWN IN SECTION 60. THEY WANTED HIM THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE AND DAMN IT THEY DESERVE TO HAVE WHATEVER THEY WANT. >> Pete: OUR REACTION AT THIS POINT SHOULD BE RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION AND DISGUST FOR WHAT THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO DO TO SOMEONE WHO SPENT TIME, OVERWHELMING AMOUNTS OF TIME, WITH FAMILIES THAT DESERVE THAT KIND OF RESPECT. >> THIS WAS NOT A DRIVE-BY. HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME. >> Pete: THAT SERGEANT FROM THE OLD GUARD. HE'S BEEN THERE LIKE YOU SAID HUNDREDS OF TIMES TO SAY THIS GUY STAYE