Episode 154: I have to turn my head until my darkness goes

welcome to in the Free Zone with Norm the podcast where knowledge meets experience in the most entertaining way possible join Norm a seasoned veteran of High School teaching and coaching with over 35 years of wisdom under his belt as he delves into the world of everything and anything from life lessons to sports strategies there's no topic too big or small for Norm to tackle brought to you by back home media and created by The Talented Derek reliford with the brilliant of fat Jesus Jordan radoff and Jared Peterson behind the scenes this podcast is your weekly Rendevous with insightful discussions and engaging conversations tune in every Wednesday at 900 p.m. Central and get ready to dive into a world where experience meets curiosity all Guided by the wit and wisdom of Norm whether you're seeking guidance entertainment or just a good laugh in the Free Zone with Norm has got you covered hello hello everybody Welcome to In The Free Zone with Norm uh with me as always is Derek Dereck how you doing this evening bad bad okay I I was listening to the show and I always say good so I just want to switch up I'm doing pretty good I'm sick I'm sick but I'm alive well you better get healthy before this weekend because you ain't importing any of your Arizona germs back here okay my plan is to like like as soon as I get to where like maybe I'm a couple hours away from being contagious like come into contact with you and your family un sounds about right we are going to quarantine your ass at the state line is what we're going to do you know how they used to have the ports of Entry that's what we're just GNA stop you at the Port of Entry and uh put you in a kennel or something well you saw what those hoodlums did to me I'm not even there yet yep desecrating public property because they don't like me that is really terrible it really is I'm sick of the [ __ ] already bro I'm already thinking about coming back to Arizona I haven't even left yet man I get it uh so so how are things man how are you how are how are you doing buddy I'm doing good doing good um you know it's that time of year it just kind of gets to be a grind school does this time of year January and February are always kind of a grind around the school yeah um but you know yeah everything's going good that's good man that's good glad to hear it um lot of stuff to talk about this week I wanted to start things off uh you know somber note but uh I knew of Tommy Bernett passing I want to talk about him but you told me literally right when we were going on that Jerry kosy passed and I was like he literally made fun of me four days ago like in a in a nice you know you know Jerry in a friendly way yeah yeah he literally commented on a post the other day like ribbing me a little bit and I was like he's gone like two you they're a little bit you know older than me you probably knew them well but I'm I'm somebody who knew who both men were uh tell us a little bit about both of these uh very big characters in our little town yeah both of them are guys that spent their whole lives here in Elkart uh more or less I mean not entirely but more or less at least their whole adult lives mostly um Jerry kski was a you know was a car guy he he he uh owned Countryside Auto Repair for for a a lot of years he sold cars he repaired cars both engines and Bodywork um and he was just always kind of a figure around town now in the last few years as his health was starting to fail he moved to Amarillo uh where you've got a little more ease of medical care and I think had family there you know and and so that's where he actually passed away Tommy Bernett kind of a similar thing you know he spent most of his adult life here raised kids here you know um and uh as the kids got older and moved away he did too and he passed away in PKA City I believe that's rough man you know both of them characters I mean they were both you know guys that yeah were were you remembered having conversations when you had absolutely absolutely they were both characters they really were and they're good guys and they will be missed two things they both had in common I feel like they both had maybe not Tommy so much maybe it was his son but they both kind of brought Vehicles into the community from what I remember um yeah Tom James definitely did cars yeah Tommy sold cars out there but uh you know kosty was like one that just that whole family like anytime you saw a nice car pull into town you're your immediate words were like what did KY buy now you know like like that's what his thing was like he thank God because like I'm not even a car guy but everybody appreciates the presence of a cool car you know what I'm saying like Absolut thought it was great my my memory of Tommy Bernett is uh he he was a client of me and my little brother Daniel's uh lawn mowing business and uh well there you go he always paid us well we always took care of him and uh he would uh he would always uh you know give you give you a good story you know when he was paying you good guy uh you know both both powerhouses in the community and very sad for sure for their family and loved ones but I I I I say we uh raise our glasses and uh remember the good times because like like nor saying both guys pretty pretty Dynam dudes yep yeah and you know Tommy ran a gun shop here the last few years that he was here in Elkart and and yeah so that and that brought a you know a service that was something that Elkart had not had so yeah yeah uh yeah both good guys hey a little bit of breaking news too uh about 40 minutes ago uh actually by now about an hour ago it was announced that Jim Harbaugh will be the next coach of the Los Angeles Chargers so uh that ends the speculation fortunately or unfortunately for the University of Michigan and here's what I mean by that um I I'm sure they would have loved to have kept their coach but at least he didn't keep them hanging on you know he he let them know now you know and quickly because there's a whole lot of things are happening in a hurry in the college football world and you don't want to be without a coach right now so uh my guess is that Michigan will hire fairly quick be be prepared for them to have a coach hired within a week uh maybe even less than that I would not be surprised if they don't offer it to Chiron Moore who is the the one who coached in Harbaugh's absence when he was uh suspended this year so it certainly would not surprise me to see shiron Moore become the next head coach at the University of Michigan I'm gonna ask you a question real quick uh I don't I I hate this term but I'm gonna just Devil's is Jim Harbaugh it would it be fair to say that he's a nepo baby like he he's football royalty of course he's going to get a job where the headline is gonna be Jim Harbaugh is hired by anybody because he's a nepo baby well I my guess would be that Jim Harbaugh has good enough football credentials to get hired on his own I don't think who his uh who his father or his brother is enters into it much however when when he was younger that may have had may have helped him get a start but you know Harbaugh was one of those guys that he was a he was a good player and he had a had a career in the NFL um and he was always one of those smart players that people figured was going to make a good coach one of these days and listen all he has done is Win everywhere he's been um and it's easy he's a quirky guy he's I pardon me for saying it he's he's kind of an [ __ ] okay but you know what a lot of a lot of good coaches are because those character traits that it takes and that focus and ruthlessness that it sometimes takes doesn't always make for the most pleasant person to hang out with but Harbaugh is a quirky guy and he's kind of a jerk but he has won everywhere he's been you know he went to Stanford which was a mess when he got there and turned Stanford's program around so much so that they continued to have success under the next coach after Harbaugh left for several years he went into the San Francisco 49ers you know and took that job and while they never never uh won a Super Bowl you know boy he got him into the playoffs every year that he was there I believe and you know had great success and then he went to Michigan and took over there and and finally won a National Championship uh and I think a lot of people figured when he won the national Championship then he was going to go back to looking for a Super Bowl championship and so you know it it's I think for a lot of people it seemed pretty natural he's flirted with the NFL nearly every season you know in the last several years and so uh it's not all that surprising that he finally decided to make the jump yeah well uh I'll always love him because I I remember him as a Chicago Bear and they're the best worst team ever uh Norm I want to talk to you about something that's uh D driving the folks crazy here um what are your thoughts on this Jake Gyllenhaal is now gonna be in primes it's either a movie or a TV show Roadhouse uh well now I had heard I've been hearing for years that they were going to remake Roadhouse okay that this was coming when I saw that I thought it was a joke I thought it was something somebody just mocked up as a joke um and and a lot of people apparently that are fans of Roadhouse are not real fans of the idea of Jake Gyllenhaal playing that character listen it you know you you make one gay cowboy movie and nobody wants to forget it you know but I to me I mean I listen Roadhouse was an enjoyable movie okay and yeah Patrick sey kind of made that character but at the same time it ain't like we're talking about Citizen Kane here okay it was not that great a movie it was it was an entertaining movie it was not that great a movie I would think you could have written just as poor a plot and slapped any name on it but you know Hollywood they want to they want it to be a known quantity they they want to have that name that everybody uh is familiar with you know and so uh yeah I guess that's the way they're going to go and here we got Stephen chiming in there's only one Roadhouse and that belongs to Patrick suy there you go okay like listen though like I am somebody who at one time in my life was kind of a gatekeeper and I was you know somebody was like you know don't mess but like at the longer time goes on like they're they're making a musical version of Mean Girls And I I just I can't find an ounce of give a [ __ ] to have an opinion about that you know like I I I just I don't care at all but the thing is this Norm kind of hit the nail on the head this listen I love the movie Roadhouse I watched it tons growing up now the reason I watched it a lot is because my the the original drummer of my band Travino Clint Johnson it was his favorite movie because of how much of a piece of [ __ ] it was like he was just like this is the biggest piece of [ __ ] movie ever made and I love it so we watched it ironically um again we're not you know we're not desecrating a a classical American Film it's freaking Roadhouse a guy gets his throat ried out come on guys like does it matter are not painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa here that is not what's going on at all by the way Preston Grant hey hello Preston Grant hello hello hello and by the way look at this guy what the heck Derek Evan reliford is awesome what the oh [ __ ] do Brothers yeah obviously he's never met you he's gonna come to a live stream from my studio tomorrow before I leave and he's a he does a marijuana stream so he's gonna blow clouds in my house yeah he's G to get my clothes stinking I'm going to get arrested as soon as I get home I can already tell yeah that's probably right speaking of getting arrested man I want to talk to you about this um I feel like there's an alarming amount uh first of all I think that uh the the level of respect for True Crime content is weirds me out like that people like it uh no I don't want to go into that tonight there's like a level of like Gypsy Rose worship going on right now uh for those that don't know what I'm talking about Norm can you kind of explain a little bit about who she is and and and uh why I'm asking you why why we make Heroes out of [ __ ] okay well all right so Gypsy Rose was a girl whose mother might have suffered from Munch housin by proxy all right for those of you that don't know what munchow by proxy is it's a mental illness in which a parent basically craves attention and they get attention through their child being sick all the time and parents that truly have munchow by proxy often poison their children um uh and and to be honest with you very often end up killing their children um a and some some of them that's how they derive their attention is from having having children that have died and so sometimes somebody with Munch ain's by proxy will literally murder their own children um that's why I say Gypsy Rose's mother might have had munchin by proxy but what I see more is a woman that was probably just number one yeah was certainly mentally ill but also was basically kind of a con man I mean she was just an attention seeker and who basically got attention from her child being sick all the time and so she claimed that uh that Gypsy Rose had leukemia and she basically kept her head shaved and actually kept her on medication that rotted her teeth and you know did things to make her look sick all the time but at the same time Gypsy was in on some of this herself because you know everybody thought she couldn't walk when she could obviously she knew she could walk you know and and so I'm not trying to say that that that that she was in on it but I'm saying you know her mom forced her to you know act certain ways and all right so eventually Gypsy Rose meets a boy and she convinces that boy to kill her mother and they do so the the the the man in question kills her mother and they end up obviously getting caught Gypsy Rose herself pleads guilty and in a plea deal basically is charged with manslaughter I believe and she's actually sentenced to 10 years she serves most of that 10 years I think eight seven or eight of that 10 years while the boyfriend who actually did The Killing was uh sentenced to life in prison and so she's recently gotten out of prison and people have made a big deal out of it and a lot of people celebrate the fact that she that she stood up to and killed her mom um I'm always a little uncomfortable celebrating murder uh personally but I I I I understand that people relate to the fact that this girl had been through a lot okay I get that but um yeah I I always have a little trouble celebrating murder or looking at it as a good thing I'm I'm glad she's not in the situation she was in uh you know her her life was bad enough that she basically said that prison was a breeze it was a lot easier than what she'd been through before prison so yeah I think it's weird I think uh I think it's weird that people are like I love True Crime it's my favorite thing I just can't get enough True Crime like the the mean guy I me just like cool I hope you get your own show someday that that'd be cool you got your hey let's talk about this nor my hey do we have any comments we need to get to man I'm gonna have you be the comment King no not so much uh Anthony's checking in late Han virus in the we should chasti him immensely for that I'm gonna give him I'm gonna give him a a tongue lashing on Sunday that's as far as I'm going into that nor I want to talk to you about this a new study by uh Mary Queen Mary University of London and Iran I don't know how much I trust it already uh basically they're just saying that uh insects feel pain and uh that that my question to you is obviously if if the the who's who of who runs the world and who decides what's right and what's up is up and what's down is down decides that uh insects feel pain um what do you feel like that's going to do to the pest industry like like the people who rely on the pest but also like what would happen in a world where we couldn't control the insect population around our homes and [ __ ] well bad things but yeah I I I hate to you know I I hate to sound like a person with no moral character here but I don't give a crap if insects feel pain that my my conscience is unbothered by the fact that insects might feel pain just like you know I haven't quit using mouse traps because mice might feel pain okay uh I and I'm not trying to to seem cold or uncaring but there are certain things that have to be taken care of in order for you and your family to live their lives and live them comfortably and whether that's a cockroach or the guy next door no wait that's not what I meant whe whether you know no matter what that is that gets in the way though they got to get taken care of you know H and and anon's chiming in apparently we're about to get a double dose of cicis and we all know how painful that can be yeah um well uh I think Ted Nan's uh possibly mentally [ __ ] but he did make a good point one time uh he was basically saying like yeah I understand the whole thing of like well I'm gonna be like a vegan and I'm gonna be a vegetarian I don't want any animals to get hurt but like if you think that all these Farms that are growing your your rabbit food for you aren't slaughtering any varmints that get on their property you're crazy yeah that's exactly right they they are straight up slaughtering any living thing that goes near their [ __ ] you know what I mean yeah well yeah that's exactly right and yeah farming methods you know vary somewhat but any type of plowing or anything like that that's required to plant things it kills what's in the ground okay whether it's animals or plants or insects it kills what's in the ground okay so yeah there's there's no such thing as as truly no killing food okay um we gota something has to go down in order for us to keep living you know yeah well that's that's interesting it's a great segue to to tonight's deep question of the week um so my question to you is this when Harry S Truman dropped two nuclear bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima yes that's not chill is it no is that bad well again you know I hate to engage in moral relativism um basically there's two ways you can look at it okay um and I'll tell you I know this from from having Japanese exchange students and and some relatives that well adopted relatives that that are Japanese I know a little bit about how the Japanese teach this in school too so I can give you a little bit of both sides okay the American argument was always that Japan was not going to surrender and dropping the two atomic bombs on Japan made them surrender and therefore it made an invasion of the Japanese Islands unnecessary an invasion which our experts had estimated might cost the United States as many as half a million men and might cost the Japanese several million people and therefore we actually probably saved lives by dropping those bombs that by the way is also what the Japanese teach in school is that the dropping of those bombs probably saved lives because it made made an invasion of the Japanese Islands unnecessary now I know a lot of people want to argue with that today and that's fine you can argue with that the truth is we never know when we're trying to predict the future we never really know we can only guess we can only estimate here's what I do now we had a shiny new bomb and we were going to use it okay a and that's where where you know if you have a moral question about it I suppose that might be it uh you know we had we had left a clean pallet we literally did not bomb Hiroshima at all leading up to the dropping of the atomic bomb there because we wanted to see how destructive the bomb actually was so we picked a city that we had intentionally over a period of months and even a year or more not touched with bombing because we want wanted to have a blank pallet When we dropped that bomb there okay Nagasaki was not quite that way but Hiroshima was not only that but we picked a city where the geography was perfect for Maximum Destruction okay Hiroshima there were like a V of mountains you had the beach here and then a river ran down through town and then you had a v of mountains up this way that those mountains focused the blast back into the city the river provided steam energy which created even more destruction so we had intentionally picked Hiroshima because we believed that the the geography of the place and everything else would create Maximum Destruction okay so if you want to to to make an argument that maybe you know we we were morally a little questionable those would be the things that you'd pick for your argument and by the way I'm not one of those people that thinks that we've never done anything wrong okay governments by their nature no matter whose government it is governments by their nature do things that are morally questionable governments do not operate on a moral basis okay uh at the same time though I will say that I do honestly believe that dropping those bombs did probably save lives in the long run it was a horri horrible thing though so both can be true it can be true that it was morally questionable to drop the bombs and also at the same time true that it was acceptable maybe acceptable is probably not the right term um but it it was probably both a good thing and a bad thing I think maybe is what I'm trying to say um it it it it was a obviously a horrible thing but it may have saved lives in the long run yeah all right Anthony's got a great question yes the bomb that we dropped on Hiroshima was a firecracker by today's standards okay um we have bombs now the the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima if I remember right and I I'm not I haven't looked this up so I I might be wrong but I believe it was somewhere in the neighborhood of a one half or one4 Megaton bomb we have multiple impact re-entry Vehicles now that have multiple warheads and each of those Warheads is a 20 to 30 Megaton Warhead okay so in other words today's bombs are many of them are two to 300 times more destructive than the bomb that we dropped on Hiroshima so yeah they are uh today's bombs are definitely far more destructive plus the bombs dropped on on uh Hiroshima and Nagasaki were actually nuclear fision bombs okay they split the atom to to achieve their energy whereas the bombs that we Dro today are hydrogen Fusion bombs they fuse atoms to to derive their energy now I realize for most of us if because we're not physicists that doesn't mean a whole lot but basically what what it comes down to is Fusion is far more powerful and far more efficient than fision is and therefore you can produce far more energy for the same amount of uh of plutonium and everything like that that you put into the bomb so yeah they're just a lot more efficient at causing Mayhem today than they were then yeah um I'm going to bring this this video up here real quick because I think it's pretty interesting but uh my thing is like I don't know it's like we're talking like death has to happen I think for life to go forward like I don't know like I because the thing that B that weirds me out is like Harry Truman can can click his fingers and and just make a whole melt um but if somebody else decides they want to take somebody out and say they even have like a justifiable reason say like they take out somebody that harmed somebody they love like they go to prison you know it's like it's just weird that and again I'm not I'm not saying it's wrong it's just weird that different people have different you know like murder like is it murder it's like well who pulled the trigger I'll tell you if it was murder or not you know what I mean here's what I would say about the dropping of the the the atomic bombs is that at that point we were the only Power in the world that possessed those weapons if we had wanted to bring the whole world to its knees in say the way that the that the Nazis had wanted to or that Japan had wanted to we we could have and we did not so you know if if we're looking for for a way to Pat ourselves on the back that might be it I mean we had the opportunity to just totally dominate the world at that time if we had wanted to we did not so uh yeah I and I'm not saying ooh adab boy us that's not what I'm saying at all but but I am saying that you know it certain people if they had had that power would have would have followed through you know with the rest of the world we you think like uh C do you think certain behaviors need to be like beaten out of people like like you know what I'm saying like CU I've been talking to people lately like I'm somebody who has pretty much eaten [ __ ] sandwich which is my whole life used to be out of fear the last like 10 years it's been out of just wanting to be like a nice pleasant member of society and just take it on the chin and deal with it but like I've I've gotten to the point now like I'm 40 I think I've had covid like nine times and I I don't know if I'm going to be alive in five years like I've gotten to the point now like if you disrespect me in the room with me I'm gonna pop you now that might mean you might beat me up afterwards like that's totally probably going to happen but like I feel like if I don't pop you like going to be the [ __ ] in this prison of life for the rest you know it's like I don't know I just feel like you kind of say like retribution is healthy like I I all right I think the internet taught us that like you can say whatever you want now you say it to somebody's face you might get popped I'm not saying like shoot him and kill I'm just saying like even a pushing match like when you're in the room with another human being like it's too it's two lions facing each other there's no rules as a teacher and a coach one thing that I would say and especially our young people they are obsessed with the idea of respect and most of them don't have a damn clue what the word means you know and and E everything to them everything is disrespecting them okay grow up quit being a Nancy girl okay not everything they said to you is disrespecting you and that's one of the problems that drives me nuts with our youth sometimes today is they think everything is disrespect expecting them uh no it's not grow up quit being such a little crybaby you know but yeah I mean you're you're right retribution revenge is is psychologically healthy in a lot of ways uh at the same time you know he who lives by the sword dies by the sword so uh be a little bit careful about that probably but here's the thing though like when I me saying that I don't see myself punching anybody like yeah like this is the thing like I'm a pretty like I I if you go based off my social media posts like lock me up but like in real life I'm a pretty laidback dude I don't see I've never really gotten any fist me and John Herman fought one time other than that I've never really been in any fist fights like I don't see it happening and I'm just saying like like I don't know I feel like you have to and again it's not I don't know I just feel like you have to and and and a lot of times like I was telling Jared this the other day like like punch p in somebody or or beating somebody up like yeah that could that could hurt them you know for a little while they could maybe they have like a limp for a few weeks you know but like you can just use like very few like a sentence and a half maybe and you can live in somebody's brain rentree for the rest of their life you know what I attack does not have to be a fist and and to me like I to me and I'm somebody who usually lets stuff go but like I don't know Norm like I feel like that's a a dangerous place to be because this is like most most of my relationships are people start slowly stepping over the line and I notice it right away but I'm the kind of person like where I think it's kind of funny to watch somebody like think they're getting one but I let it go on for way too long where I finally say something it's like really mean what I say I don't touch them but I just say like oh sense they just like you're a bad person you know what I mean but I mean like I feel again like like you like you're saying I don't think that it's just like anybody if somebody looks at you funny get up but I mean I'm talking about a true disrespect ECT to you or people that you care about you know again I I'm not saying like it happens all time but I don't know I just I can't be the guy anymore that just takes it on the chin again I don't see myself fighting anybody but I don't know hey real quick though we got to change the subject so there's a meme going around that says uh basically I don't even know if it was legit somebody was basically just saying like the Lions if they go all the way to the house they should suit up Sanders for one play and uh so if they win the Super Bowl Sanders gets his ring which that would be that would be awesome that would be cool at the same time there are all kinds of NFL rules that would prevent that from happening so that being said my question to you is this say that the new woke America the new woke NFL decides that they're going to do that who in your opinion deserves to put a suit on and play it down who do you and my question and shorter formance what NFL players are you like man they should have got a ring you know because Barry Sanders is not alone in that in that world no he's not Barry Sanders is one that yes certainly certainly comes to mind but no he he is not alone in that there are Dan Marino how about that okay Dan Marino made it to the Super Bowl once and lost but Dan Marino at one time owned every passing record in the NFL fell right and very few people have had the kind of careers that Dan Marino had okay so there's there would be one that I would throw out um I'm trying to think of some others um let's see so uh Jim Kelly is one that came up on a list yeah Jim Kelly and several on those bills teams you know Thurman Thomas uh who was the running back for the bills for those bills teams and um we need to have Jeff canny do a deep dive on the on the bills Steve Tasker didn't he play for those bills teams yeah Kansas yeah absolutely yeah um yeah so there are there are a lot of guys that that on those bills teams that would it would be nice to see them yeah absolutely here Mark Mark espinos is throwing out a couple Bo Jackson yeah Philip Rivers Bo Jackson the main thing with Bo Jackson is his career was unfortunately cut so short to me yeah it'd be great to see him get a Super Bowl ring but what would have been really great was to have seen what he could have done if he hadn't had the injury that he did yeah I mean and he played he played baseball after that injury which is amazing because basically his whole hip joint was dead and I mean they went in and replaced it and everything but you know there was incredible muscle damage and everything to that joint it's yeah nuts you could have walked up to Jackson and be like man do you want a ring he'd be like can you give me my leg back I'll take that and take my chances with getting my own ring you know exactly yeah uh anthon's throwing out Harbaugh well we'll see if Harbaugh can win one as a coach here yeah yeah um let's talk about this uh speaking of uh you know Barry Sanders suiting up and uh being the old guy on the field I I want to talk about this tight end uh here's a picture of him last season he's in his ninth season uh cam McCormick ninth season uh in the uh in college football what's going on with this this is ridiculous man why this guy's 35 years old why is he uh why is he still playing college football surprisingly he's actually only 25 years old okay okay so cam McCormack cam McCormack played his first season in 2016 uh as an 18-year-old freshman and he actually I say he played he didn't play he red shirted okay then he came out and played a full season his sophomore year for the University of Oregon that's where he went right out of high school and his sop what what would have been his red shirt sophomore season his third season so this would now be the 2018 season he broke his leg early in the year kind of like with uh Alex Smith wasn't that the quarterback that had the bad infection after the broken leg okay he like him he had some uh complications with the broken leg and he ended up so he broke it early in the 2018 season so missed the 2018 season had complications missed the 2019 and even the 2020 season which was the covid year right so there were three seasons there that he did not play he came back in 20 won and broke his foot early in the season so basically lost four seasons to injury one season to red shirt Four Seasons to injury and so at that point he had played one season he then played the 2022 season for Oregon and played the 2023 season the the season we've just gone through for and now he's transferring to Miami and has applied for oh no actually played the 23 season for Miami and applied for waivers for the 24 season has been granted those which will be his ninth season that he has been on a roster but he will have only played actually four of those nine Seasons okay uh he had one red shirt season four Seasons that he was out with with injuries three with the broken leg and one with the broken foot so five of the nine Seasons he did not play and that's why he was granted the hardship eligibility okay he got one extra year of eligibility from covid everybody got that and that would have given him with the red shirt six years and so three times he has applied for a hardship eligibility waiver and all three times has been granted that hardship but he's still going to end up only having actually played Four Seasons and that's if he can get through the 2024 season healthy so on the surface it sounds crazy oh my God the guy's played nine Seasons well no he hasn't really he he has been on a roster for nine Seasons but he has actually only played or will have by the end of next year will have only played Four Seasons to be a turd in the punch bow um if you're an athlete wouldn't you want to be in the NFL before you gradu or at least have offers before your graduation and he he but he that's the thing with this kid okay he wants to play in the NFL but he obviously hasn't been drafted right uh of course he probably hasn't declared himself eligible for the listen but he would here's the deal the guys that declare themselves eligible for the draft usually the Smart Ones know that they're going to get drafted before they declare themselves eligible for the draft now some of them are not real smart and they declare themselves eligible for the draft and they're not going to get drafted okay but the Smart Ones generally have people they have people out there that know whether or not they're going to get drafted and and so obviously this kid thinks that maybe if he plays another season he'll get noticed you know and maybe he'll he'll get a chance to play in the NFL and maybe he's right who knows I think he just wants to smoke a bunch of little dudes well that could be too listen okay I'm sick of it so I dropped out of high school I'm moving back to Elkart you go back to you coach the the wild cats this next season put me on the line you get a year out of me um I'll just straight like dislocate shoulders like I will really mess these kids up bro uh undefeated season yeah be good man like bring me back is what I'm saying dude yeah yeah CU that's what we want is a heart attack risk out there on the field oh my gosh hey I want to show you something crazy real quick uh I just I will probably get in trouble but this is a a a robot killing a human being yeah that's uh so the reason that's big is like obviously drones have been killing people for a while from my understanding though from where I saw that that was not being piloted by human being that was a drone being piloted by artificial intelligence so that so that is a much bigger deal yeah absolutely to my knowledge this is the first time a robot an actual robot has ever taken a human life yeah um well that's been documented what are your thoughts on that Big Dog Terminator here yeah uh my thought is that you know like everything it it it will have repercussions um and my guess is that many of those repercussions may not be positive um you know we but at the same time that isn't that Mankind's history don't we find a way to turn everything into a weapon don't we find a way to kill with everything yeah you know uh most of the weapons of war from from the dawn of time up until the invention of gunpowder almost all of those weapons of war were based on some sort of tool you know or some sort of farming implement or you know I mean whether it was axes or spears or whatever it might be you know um so yeah it it's unfortunate but that's what mankind does okay we we find creative ways to kill each other and we always have them we probably always will um at the same time just because somebody's claiming that that's artificial intelligence doing that you know and it may be I'm not saying it's not but I'm just saying we're talking about a war there I assume that's from Ukraine is where the footage is from right I don't know yeah I'll bet it is um I I don't trust either side and the information that they're releasing in that war so I I anything that comes out of that war any claim made by either side in that War I take with a serious grain of salt you know so here's here's my answer to that I 100% agree with you I don't trust any any any news Outlet at all none of them but knowing that uh here in Phoenix there's people that go to work and they get dropped off and picked up to get groceries by cars that don't have drivers in them I'm just like okay it might not be artificial intelligence to kill that guy but if it was I'm no longer shocked by that I'm like yep that's what happens when you tell the robots they can do what they want yeah uh listen here's something too that I'm going to throw out there and that is that the F5 the most lethal air-to-air dog fighter in history has actually been outfitted now to become a drone to be remote piloted and not only that but I've read that there is a possibility you know cuz the the the military doesn't always like to release these things that an F35 and its pilot and artificial intelligence could it theoretically control a cloud of f-15s flying along with it and if that's true then that's crazy you know yeah listen man I'm all for it the government can do whatever they want as long as they give me an F-150 you know what I mean we'll be right back after this what's up dud we're here in my room again let's take a look at some Batmobiles first one from uh Nolan Trilogy go PE PE pew pew I think I got like a flea market it's like $3 or something or sh patson this one was pretty dope this a little RC carard does like a wheelie pretty cool a got old athle here which one's there another RC car pretty big um you control by your phone or some [ __ ] there's a pretty pretty cool RC car too another patson Batmobile my favorite Batmobile right here Kon my boy Kon anyway my question to you this week is simple if there's one thing you can get rid of on Earth what would it be for me I'm going to say mosquitoes they can go I don't like them they're annoying just do away with them but yeah here's some more um ke and Batmobile look at this little bitty one this a diecast one that's pretty cool though with this one right here this one oh I don't even remember how long I think it took me two days to build this patson Lego Batmobile damn too many pieces too many pieces let me know fellas sons of [ __ ] well all right that guy giving us a tour of all the Batmobiles hey you know what yeah I first of all I'm with that guy on getting rid of mosquitoes but mosquitoes are not generally here here where I live we don't have mosquitoes a lot of the time because it's too damn dry so I'm gonna say rather than mosquitoes biting flies that's what I would get rid of that's what we have here we have biting flies we don't have a whole lot of mosquitoes most years because it is too dry here for mosquitoes but uh yeah those biting flies are a pain in the butt and if you especially if you have animals if you've got you know any kind of livestock or even pets outside boy they are horrible I would get rid of you know they say careful what you wish for I've always wanted to live in a world and it's not even that much because like back in the day like commercials weren't you couldn't skip a commercial you know saying like people are now like damn I have to wait 15 seconds to skip this you're like dude you had to watch the whole commercial they were going to sell you a Honda go tresa says biting yeah I was going to say you don't have mosquitoes but you have flies that'll take chunks of skin with him oh yeah they'll bite you right through your clothes too that's the bad part first of all that guy has uh more he has better toys than my kids have yeah like I I hope my kids don't watch this show man I would but no I would get rid of uh lying lying that would be a good one yeah but only you can't wa if I could like make because that's like you can't how do you govern like lying uh Brandon who's a who's a bug guy now wants to get rid of German that's what they H that's what they send you out there for I was gon say apparently he wants to be unemployed no uh but I think that when it comes to anything that that is going to be a pretty astronomical life decision like anything that's going to Al alter your your credit or just your chances of being a person like I don't think that you should be able to mislead anybody when it comes to signing serious [ __ ] you know what I mean like like uh like PE you know like God forbid you go to and it happens every day like there's people out there paying you know like over like 15 or 20% on a car payment you know like that's a lot of interest you know what I mean taxes yeah and the thing is a lot of people would not sign up and take they would not buy these vehicles if they first of all if if any and I'm not saying I understand [ __ ] but if anybody had a basic understanding of like business dealings and what you're actually signing up for they probably wouldn't sign it but second of all if it was illegal to mislead you I feel like you'd have a lot Le a lot less people who are in really shitty situations right now yeah yeah absolutely I I agree with you 100% And you know most of the time and I suppose I should have thought about it more and here's one of those that's going to offend some people you know there are days that I would uh list uh lawyers and politicians I would put them on that list too right right before biting flies or maybe right after all right man we I say that jokingly somewhat but we are going to uh break some some uh some rules here okay there's a lot of things that uh we feel like are pretty taboo to talk about you know uh music religion you know politics uh there was actually a a dis it wasn't even a disagreement nobody's they still like each other uh but uh two of our writers got into a a debate on whether or not God was real and I I think I got to like four messages before I was like I got to leave this conversation I'm probably going to jump off a building like this is so dumb I love them both like I'll kiss them both on the mouth but they it was just like I was just like and I was really mad because I wanted to go record the conversation because then I might listen to it if it was like if I had to listen to the the casino commercials like everybody else so I can get paid but like uh they they were arguing over if there's a got anyway me and Stephanie were watching a uh we've been watching a lot of uh kmen videos you said that you saw him live we won't get into the time I cried uh but he has a video where it's basically about um he's like a traveling preacher he comes to this town and this uh like Tent Revival he's putting on the guy he gets there and the guy's like dude this is crazy like we've never had this much Buzz about a Tent Revival and Carmen's like hell yeah bro I'm Carmen you know and it's like set in like the 50s and he's like where do we start and then like it's kind of cringe to watch but the thing is is it's cringe but it's real like anybody that's like how cring so like the guy brings him over he's like hey man I just want to tell you know like we got a little bit of a problem he's like what he's like such and such church is coming he's like cool and he's like they're black and then like we laugh but I was like okay yeah it's really easy to be like oh crowbar that in there but literally Google lynchings and you can see dis that was real people didn't want people there because of their so anyway Carmen tells him look this is Acts chapter two and I asked you instead of reading to explain to me what the hell Acts chapter 2 is about okay yeah all right so Acts chapter 2 oh my goodness and and I read this several days ago and now I can read it to you and you can but yeah well no I I what if if I remember right basically Acts chapter 2 is saying that yeah Dereck you're gonna have to refresh my memory a little bit because it's been a few days ago that I read it and okay let me get up here and suddenly my brain's not wanting to work I got you if anybody in the in the chat this this is the old man that's losing the you know I've got the long-term memory but apparently I'm losing the short-term memory that's cool we we've been planning for this that's why you downloaded dript and uh it said and when the day of the Pentecost was fully come they were all within one Accord in one place oh I remember now yeah okay just needed a little refresher okay okay so basically what was going on in Acts chapter 2 is you had a a group of Believers and there were referred to as the apostles okay but you have a group there and they're in a city where there is a whole Gathering of Jewish people from all over the world and those Jewish people from all over the world speak many different languages and this okay and this is actually the first reference in the Bible to speaking in tongues and so the apostles were filled with the spirit and they began speaking in all of them in various langu languages and the Jews that were there from all over the world many of them began to hear the language that they was their native language and they were picking out their native language and listening to what was being said to them and yet the person who was saying it had no idea what they were saying and so the Lord was speaking through the apostles and it led many of them okay led many of these people to new beliefs led many of them to many many Jews to convert to Christianity however at this point Christianity was not really seen as something different from Judaism yet if if anything you could call Christianity at this point kind of a cult or an offshoot of Judaism okay it was it was becoming its own religion but it wasn't necessarily there yet okay um by the way this is also where okay when when some biblical experts look at the Book of Revelation as a historical book rather than a book of Prophecy those experts say that when Revelation was written it was a book of Prophecy but since then much of this has already happened and it is now cons to be considered a book of History part of that ties in with some of with with Act with Acts chapter 2 here because some of the actions being described here the people being brought to Christ and all of that could easily be interpreted as fulfilling some of the the the prophecies from The Book of Revelation remember that just because Revelation is the last book in the Bible doesn't mean that it was the one that was written last okay the Bible was not arranged chronologically certain parts of it are arranged chronologically but but not all of it is arranged chronologically and so you know that's that's one of those things too as well but basically it's just talking about a time that the Lord worked through others to achieve an end and that end was converting people to to Christianity okay um and Anthony asks a great question here does religion dictate the world and Anthony I would say and I always say that for me religion is a very personal thing I would say that depends on you um I you know religion is one of those things that you can believe you can choose to believe or you can choose not to believe and if you are a Believer then you should realize that the reason why you can choose to either believe or not believe is because God granted man free will um we one of the things that we don't talk about very often but but maybe should the logically is you know we talk about angels and we see them as these powerful things but in truth humans are are are are exalted above the angels in in in Christian theology because the Angels Have No Free Will and they have no soul humans were were given both of those things okay uh and and we could go into the theological proofs and and and and implications of that and I'm certainly not an expert on any of that but to me whether or not religion dictates the world is depends on your beliefs you know um for some people religion certainly does dictate the world everything about their world view is shaped by religion uh for others there are plenty of people that are completely a religious they they are are completely non-religious and and no religion doesn't shape a thing about their world um and and so a lot of it to me just it's all about your beliefs you know um a and you know I I'm one of those people that I don't like to talk a whole lot about my my personal beliefs um other people are are are much more willing to share that type of thing you know so yeah I think does religion dictate the world is is totally depends on your point of view all right Derek you're you're muted I can't hear you we want to say thank you to all those listeners that stuck with us for three and a half years that are going to leave after this episode CU they're like that's it we really appreciate all your downloads We we love you um we're gonna go overtime tonight because Norm uh Norm is not going to school tomorrow he has some stuff going on but I I have to leave for like two minutes we're going to bring up fat Jesus but I what I want you to get get uh blowing the hot air about I want to talk about the evolution of the music industry particular um particularly the shift from glamrock to medal to Alternative de grunge but I kind of want to talk about like Alice Cooper who in my opinion successfully sort of clung on to each one of those things a little bit at a time and uh and so in okay my question to you is this um what other what other bands do you feel like what other bands or musicians were able to chameleon themselves through the adaptation and and which ones do you feel like didn't have to and still stayed relevant fat Jesus welcome to the show um the first thing that popped in my mind was you have um I have kind of limited not really limited but you got there's two you got AOS Smith that's kind of withstood the test of time they came out as their their Rock they've kind of progressed they had their hits in the 90s they had some hits in the 2000s they've kind of progressed in had their thing they're not doing much now but you also have like like them I would think maybe like Bon Joy had some he spanned quite a few decades with his music career yeah yeah those are those are both examples to me I don't know to me when you start Lo talking about Glam and you know hair metal and then grunge and alternative and all of that those are all Niche kind of things yeah now they became maybe the dominant form of their time but those were all Niche things that that only lasted a few years as the dominant form um and to me your your Main Stays you know your what we think of as your classic rock bands your Arena rock bands You Know The Rolling Stones The Who uh lead Zeppelin uh bands like that they didn't change you know much at all now some of them very much did they very much changed and adapted and you know and and Alice Cooper is a good example of you know here was Alice Cooper that was you know this this theatrical kind of goth before goth existed this theatrical kind of goth rocker and he heavily influenced a lot of those hair bands that came later and so he was very readily accepted into that scene because he had been such a heavy influence on those bands but musically he didn't really mesh with those bands very well and then around what 89 or yeah 80 late 89 into early 90 he released that single poison which fit right in with all those hair metal bands and you know and so he he he has musically and image- wise been a little bit of a chameleon while at the same time basically staying true to who he is you know and so that to me Alice Cooper is a great example to throw out there when it comes to that kind of stuff but yeah for me a lot of those it it was really Niche forms and and I don't know that there's anybody that became each of those things I can't think of anybody that was the thing that was racking my brain I was like I can't think of anybody who did all those all those there are certainly bands that transcended that and they didn't lose their popularity as that Niche form took over and another Niche took over and so on but but I I so I think there were plenty of bands that transcended it but I don't I can't think of a band that really you know shifted this to this and shifted to this and shifted to this now some of them have changed over the years and evolved over the years and maybe taken on elements of different forms but I can't think of any band that was was Glam and then became you know fit in with that Glam hair metal scene and then became you know grunge and then became alternative I you know that's just too much shifting around to me yeah hello my thing is this Norm I get you and your buddies liked rock and roll but why did you guys have to get into your mom's makeup and [ __ ] like why couldn't you just play uh I'm going to be honest with you you you talked about Alice Cooper and he to blame for a lot of that he really is um he's not the only one though right you who who were other bands that influenced that the New York Dolls um who who heavily influenced twisted's sister the thing like by the way they're from the same neighborhood but yeah so there's some weird guy to blame for both okay dark dark joke dark okay here's the thing though like it is always the like my favorite everybody has like I don't know maybe not everybody everybody I think has like a favorite front man for different reasons and it's uh the closest a straight dude will get to being gay being like that dude's awesome man just like he's everything that's that what that that's awesome you know what I'm saying but like most like for me like my favorite front man of all time is the singer of Taking Back Sunday awful singer live just a God awful nobody should hand him like great lyric Lyricist in the studio great great the awful singer and for a lack of a better term like if like Brandon Fink would have saw this guy play live in 1993 he'd have been like that guy's gay you know what I'm saying like very like feminine features like dancing around the stage like you know like Freddy Mercury dancing around stage makes sense because he was you know he he was a gay man you know but you'll see these straight dudes that like if you take somebody that's out of the scene take away the music and you just look at them you're just like what is going on here and like the chicks love argue with you about Freddy Mercury okay go ahead it is a fine point but I would tell you that Freddy Mercury is really more by than gay Freddy Mercury was Freddy Mercury was married to a woman for an extended period of time I know that doesn't necessarily I know that doesn't necessarily mean anything okay but but according to Freddy Mercury himself he was more by than gay now that doesn't have anything to do with anything okay okay but the reason why I point that out is because Freddy Mercury's family that was the big problem they had with the movie um what was that movie uh just the queen movie yeah yeah you know the one they made of him it was it was taken from oh uh Bohemian rap city that was it yeah yeah that was the big problem that Freddy's family and friends supposedly had with that movie was that it depicted him as gay instead of as as by uh so I don't know whether that matters or not it doesn't matter to me no um I singer sexuality does not matter to me one way or the other to me it to me and again there's nothing wrong with it and I'm somebody who buys into it I can watch like I think his name Adam Lazer the singer T back Sunday like he's known for like mic swinging like swinging the mic right and there's like if you tell my stepdad like hey did you know last night dererk watched this singer of Taking Back Sunday uh just mic swinging videos for three hours my dad be like that sounds pretty gay you know what I mean you know like that's that's borderline like I'm I'm really into this dude you know what I mean like you know who the most prominent Mike swinger I can think of is not the guy I'm talking about I guarantee it Robert Plant Robert Plant oh yeah was a mic swinger see absolutely I in our band that we're starting Norman the dropouts I was actually GNA I was going to wait till I got to elart but I'm actually going to be doing quite a bit of mic swinging so I hope well there we go you're I hope you're uh I hope that school has got you on a good dental plan buddy yeah say I should be wearing a helmet at least at least a mouth guard yeah uh I have plenty of topics to talk about guys I'm just I'm just sitting here playing spinning the wheel here what do I bring up what do I bring up all right one one that you mentioned in the introduction to the that I would at least like to touch on and I can put it to rest pretty quickly um and that is The Exodus from Alabama since Nick Sabin announced his retirement for those people that think that that's going on the reason why they think that is because they hear the statistic that 28 Alabama players have entered the portal I would like to point out that 20 of those 28 players from Alabama that have entered the portal entered the portal before Nick Sabin announced his retirement okay and it's not like everybody knew it was coming sabin's retirement was a complete shock he was out there hiring coaches and having meetings and literally decided one night before he went into the meeting that he was going to retire so uh yeah I there's not really a post Sabin uh Exodus away from Alabama 20 of those 28 players had already entered the portal before Sabin announced his retirement wow um [ __ ] do you got anything on that I uh on Nick Sabin yeah no it just sounds like he had it sounds like insider trading to me he was like uh so 20 of my dudes are gonna be in the portal all right I'm out you know what I mean he's like I'm not dealing with this he's like I'm over here trying to hire coaches I'm not dealing with this too do you think that like do you think that like as a civilization we've outgrown the the con like the idea of a contract cuz none of them mean a damn thing like you can rip a contract I mean there's obviously consequences for both parties by ripping up a contract but how many contracts actually get finished you know what I mean well listen coaching they never have that's why guaranteed money exists on these coaching contracts okay because coaches have always gotten fired left and right and their defense against getting fired is the guaranteed contract that's why the guaranteed contract exists in coaching is because coaches just get fired for any little thing I mean you know Nick sabbin generally recognized as the greatest college coach of all time had a phenomenal record there at Alabama won what six national championships or seven at at Alabama every time they'd lose a game fire Sabin would be trending on Twitter right so so you know that's how realistic college football fans are you know yeah and you know let's face it schools have totally killed their programs by firing coaches at times too you know I mean Texas Tech have they ever recovered from firing Mike Leech no uh Nebraska and and it may not have been firing Frank solich as much as it was hiring Bill Callahan but they've never recovered you know the solich was uh nine and three and they said we expect to play for national championships every year when they fired him they haven't even been in the same zip code as a national championship since yeah they I mean it's so you know that happens yeah yeah uh another sports related topic uh and I'm assuming this has to do with AI or just the fact that I don't know like people don't need Sports Illustrated laid off most of their employees but you know Kylie Jenner has more you know and actually recipients of news than Sports illustrator probably I can give you a little more than that and I know a lot of people think oh yeah it's AI because they they're not going to need those people because AI will write everything no what's going on is a power struggle Sports Illustrated is owned by one company and published by another company okay so the arena group publishes Sports Illustrated but authentic actually holds the license to Sports Illustrated and basically the arena group missed a 3.7 million $75 million payment to SI and so authentic which holds the license pulled the license and so basically there's a power struggle or even a monetary struggle going on between those two companies and it's led to everybody at at Sports Illustrated basically getting laid off now we'll see whether it lasts or not the two companies may may mend fences and work it all out or you know authentic may go on but authentic is not interested in producing Sports Illustrated magazine but they are interested in using the Sports Illustrated name to Market a ton of other products and so that's what's going on basically you have one group that wants to produce Sports Illustrated magazine but they don't own the rights to the name Sports Illustrated and then you have another group that want that owns those rights and they want to use those rights to Market everything but they have no desire to put out a magazine and the two groups are having a power struggle right now yeah I just I don't know like I don't like anytime I go get groceries and there's like the the magazine stands there and I see like the National enquire like I obviously always like read the cover but like their first initial thought is like who the [ __ ] is buying enough of these things to keep them afloat like I've bought one as a joke like 20 years ago like who is buying these I get it but like how much again like it's like Playboy like play boy was in circulation way too long way too long the magazin kind of dying they really yeah I remember the first time me and John Herman downloaded a deep fake Dolly Parton boob pck and it took about 45 minutes to get it but that was the second I was like I'm never buying this kind of stuff ever again listen you know I used to subscribe to Sports Illustrated and I dropped my subscription mostly because the quality of the magazine deteriorated so much you know and and I know that most of that was occurring because their their numbers were going down and they were trying to cut costs right so yeah the the magazines are are kind of a Dying you know form of media most of them have gone to online editions and they did that years and years ago nobody's even looking at that stuff I mean you why you know this is my thing like I think like with anything that gets bought and taken over like that stays alive like you're it's like uh when you take music you know back in the day you would get like uh say you would hear your song on the radio so you would record it and then it sounded kind of crappy and then your buddy wanted a copy so you would dub it and then his copy sounded a little crappier than and then so on and so on um I feel like anytime there's something great like a company or something you have this person that's like probably mentally ill behind it pushing it making sure that everything is perfect and it's something that everybody's like wow this is great Sports Illustrated magazine this is who's on the cover who's in the centerfold that's how it was when I was growing up Sports Illustrated magazine was a big thing once you get that that dreamer paid off and out of there like the Integrity dies quickly you know what I mean it is literally just a bunch of skinny wolves trying to eat every piece of meat off of this thing that you to be good and to me like that's that's that's for in that scenario you should be the dreamer that gets the payday and drive what drives off but really like art is really not very sacred anymore once it becomes you know like you know what I'm saying yeah I do know what you're saying I and I understand hey and this goes back to our last topic but Joel Aranda's got something to say here basically I'm not going to read everything that he says here but basically he gets down to the end and he's talking about he believes there will be a shift to recruits going to Texas OU Georgia places like that um and how tough it is to fill the shoes of the greatest college football coach ever yeah that's always the problem right and as a coach do you want to be the guy that follows that guy you know so kayin D'Or got his work cut out for him and it it remains to be seen whether or not Alabama will maintain what they have what they've built there I I'd say they have a good chance to but but at the same time all dynasties come to an end you know and everything eventually ends it it is the law of it's it's basically the one of those immutable laws of Life as a matter of fact basically it's the law of entropy is what it is right but uh for those of you that don't know what the laws of enthalpy and entropy are one of these days we'll have a we'll have a lesson on the laws of entropy and enthalpy but tonight is not that night not that night but yeah that's that's there's a lot of Truth there to what joelle's saying yeah thanks for watching Jo by the way Joel did you do this just be honest man like we know he didn't do it because it's all spelled right plusy yeah okay just kidding Joelle just kidding by the way everything was spelled right in what you wrote a minute ago rereading everything did I spell everything correct Joel's gonna you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna run into a very angry Joelle at Jim Dandy in a few days he's gonna be like what the f dude saying I can't read bro oh man I am stoked all right uh did you uh you want to get out of here Norm I have a couple talks whatever you want to do buddy yeah I think it's probably about time to get out of here um all right man so yeah back home media guys uh check it out right go to backom media.com check it out check out the the podcasts offered there um there are changes coming to back home media in the in the coming days and I'm kind of excited about some of those changes and I know Derek is and so we're uh yeah we're just kind of looking forward to what the coming weeks will bring us weeks and months and uh stay here it's uh it's uh it's not gonna be boring I don't think it may be a lot of things but boring should not be one of those things no it's gonna be so fun it's gonna be so fun so thanks for being with us and we'll see you next week