My Oh Why S2 -- Game 139 -- Mariners 2, Athletics 3: Live Misery

Published: Sep 03, 2024 Duration: 00:39:04 Category: Sports

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hi guys oh what's going on thanks so much for everyone sup Zach up AJ Michael scarn you jump to the left and you shake that hand you jump to the right and you shake that hand Ron I'll answer your question right now how cooked are the Mariners from rare steak to smoke turkey there're a turkey that you somehow left in the fryer like I don't know you were watching Cowboys lions and all of a sudden you take a look and you say oh crap I left the turkey the Mariners are that turkey I'm gonna link this real quick guys please feel free to leave any questions thank you for coming and hanging out live with me because oh my gosh I just I don't know if I have it in me to record a normal video I I in fact I know I don't let me just promote this real quick Twitter yes it's still called Twitter uh let's do a live one copy we are live now come be miserable with me it's what the cool kids do oh my gosh what an an absolute waste I knew I was going to have to say it what an absolute waste what an absolute waste it's true it's true Michael sup Ryan sup Dylan up Matt thank you guys so much so let's do the uh the usual thing Mariners lose three to two they fall to 69 and 70 on the season they have a losing record the Seattle Mariners have a losing record they were 44 and 31 and they have a losing record and they've lost the first two of the series against the Oakland A's scoring Place big dumper hits a double to Center to score my son and Julio two nothing they don't do a dang thing offensively afterwards Lawrence Butler homers to Center in the first Seth Brown homers to Center in the fourth and Seth Brown It's a walk-off single off Trent thoron to make it 3 to2 the positive is Luis Castillo was solid very solid outing and Troy Taylor looks really good Troy Taylor looks really good offensively congrats to Big dumper on uh breaking the Mariner RBI total yippy whoopy flipping do I I love you big dumper I just have a hard time celebrating a stat like that on a day like tonight and I guarantee you big dumper doesn't give a you know what about it either I it is funny it's really funny and it's also heartbreaking absolutely heartbreaking to watch this offense just suck out loud the everybody after big dumper today was hot garbage offensively hot garbage and the decision to bring in Tren Thorton for the ninth inning is baffling absolutely baffling I just don't get it I just don't get Trent Thorton in that situation at all and it makes me wonder if Andre MOS is healthy because yeah I get that you're saving him for a save situation but now this is back-to-back games where he hasn't worked in the ninth inning also very quickly could someone okay I was working today actually made a huge mistake at work today I wrote that Wyatt Langford hit a walk-off three run Homer and it was actually a walk-off Grand slam divish said Mooney wasn't available okay real and we'll talk about that in a sec but real quick can someone quickly tell me what the hell happened on the Justin Turner Randy Rose Arena thing because I had the game on mute and I'm super confused did they call that a called strike did they say he swung I what what the heck happened there they called it a check swing and Randy thought it was Ball Four okay gotcha so it was a called strike okay so but the some of you guys are saying they called it a swing some of you and then clearly Randy thought it was ball four but I'm just curious if he called that a swing or if he I I guess we're all answer in the same way but yeah it was a ball one looking at it not called strike swing yeah gotcha well either way that was not great you got to just keep running bud you gotta just keep running sure it looks like the Umpire screwed up there but we still got to go hard he's still got to go hard all right is there anything else I really wanted to talk about with this game no no golly man it's so over like it's it's just dunzo just dunzo and I mean it was dunzo before this but if this doesn't cement it Troy Taylor looks great a few of you have brought that up and I for those of you who are myaw enthusiasts and I see a few of you Matthew Brian have I not been saying Troy Taylor is really good every once in a while I get one right Troy Taylor's awesome Troy Taylor and Colin Snyder are two of the only well I mean Troy Taylor sample size is so much smaller but like where are the Mariners not in the playoffs is the answer and I joked about this on Twitter without guys like Troy Taylor Colin Snider and Victor Ras oh yeah Jacob that's the thing man they just had to be in I said this on mollywop Monday they just had to be an average baseball team they just had to be an average baseball team from when they were 44 and 31 and they're steamrolling but to say they aren't an average team since then let's just do the math real quick since 43 and 31 they are 26 and 39 that's dog turds that's what that Florida State guy is supposed to be eating by the way that story is disgusting but I mean o my goof I know I'm sorry aent Michael scen I'm sorry I'm bummed especially for people in my age range 25 to 30 who never got to experience the glory years and have already had 2022 Goodwill race just sucks yeah that's really well said Eli I feel terrible there's every age group has something to uh complain about but like I feel terrible for like my buddy Anders you know he's never seen the Mariners be great and great is subjective but I saw the Mariners win 116 games at least I saw the Mariners make the ALCS in what was it three out of six years if you were born after 1997 and sure 2001 is technically after and then and so is 2000 but you can't appreciate it as a three or foury old if you're born after that you have seen nothing but but crap with a few exceptions oh uh if you guys don't mind please hit like if you're new to the Channel please hit subscribe yeah all right let me let me scroll through here and see if there's some questions I would love to travel back Jacob to the 10 game lead so they've lost 16 and a half games since that 10 game lead by the way that's just pathetically Julio was average at best did we jump on the Superstar train too quick I would disagree with that he's certainly having a average season but he's had two well above average Seasons now he's probably not a superstar yet really good player because of what he provides defensively has to get more consistently offensively cannot just be hot and cold has to if he wants to be a star if he wants to be a superstar great defense is great and having these hot runs is fantastic got to show it more consistently luckily the age of 23 I think he can unfortunately the Seattle Mariners are an organization that has not proven that they can develop hitting so needed to keep auo for the good times Vibes yeah I mean I think they I've talked about it a lot I think they really miss aoo Suarez every single loss is the same offense does nothing Bullpen blows a late game lead or late game tide game because the offense could barely score all game yeah it it just becomes a a high leverage thing and the Mariners have been bad in high leverage situations this year offensively pitching some defensive gaffs in those situations just not a good enough pitching staff so if Munoz wasn't available you still got to go with somebody other than Trent Thorton in that situation Trent Thorton's not good Trent thoron is not a good relief pitcher he is a guy that's nice to have because of the ability to go multi- Innings and there is the occasional spurt where he shows that Wipeout slider just doesn't have nearly the command to be a high leverage guy can't be that can't be him let's see here all right so we talked about the Randy thing that that was just a bad look bad look he's gotten on base at a nice little clip but he's got to be better and now it doesn't matter but he's got to be better in 2025 for sure I would love to have those Robo refs Andrew who do we keep for next year's team well that's a good question let's look at that got your Sketcher you're GNA have JP Crawford be the short St stop that's he just has such a team-friendly contract and he's so beloved that he's your short stop so it's pointless to not think about it so catcher taken care of Short Stops taken care of left Field's taken care of even though Randy rosarin has been a mixed bag at best center field obviously taken care of I think right Field's taken care of I think roblas is probably your starting right fielder next year and then your rotation but we'll see if they make moves with that rotation long story short they need to upgrade in a lot of places first base second base at this point I don't think they pick up Pano's option uh third base for sure and then you could make another move for an outfielder and designated hitter but Mitch Garver is making 12 million next year so he's gonna get a shot yeah Dan Wilson has not looked competent to me and I'm not rooting against him obviously and I was critical of the hiring I have not been impressed with Dan Wilson cannot wait to trade toy Taylor for a second Bas when Le turns into Dylan have you seen this script oh Justin so Justin says your team is checked out mentally I think think I agree with that it's tough to prove but it sure looks like it Dan Wilson is not the Savior manager and everyone not named Hollander needs to be let go let Hollander have the Reigns for the offseason and next trade deadline 100% agree 100% agree that Justin Hollander should have the control of the offseason and I will say this too I think Justin Hollander should have control but a short leash short leash you have got to win in 202 five but all due respect to Jerry depoto I think that his time running the organization should come to an end I don't think it will but I do believe that it's time for another voice he talked about a new voice yeah now that it's over do they bring up Ford yeah I don't think so I think that they will want to keep Ford as one of those PPI guys for those unfamiliar with that that's the thing that got Julio Rodriguez the uh or the Mariners a draft pick for Julio Rodriguez winning rookie of the year I imagine that they probably don't want to give Ford a look right now same with Cole Young yeah Ty France is hitting 299 in the last 30 days 311 the last 15 and 393 in the last seven good for Ty France man I I I I really hope Ty France has a great career I also don't have any problem with Ty France not playing for the Seattle Mariners but it does it does show yeah don't build a team on a burial ground it sure feels like it anyway um let's see here 37 and 44 since June 1st wow that's half a season half a season of being aggressively mediocre at this point though more of the onus needs to be on the players they have been absolutely pathetic man I don't disagree with that I mean I will say maybe not most of the owners should go to the players because for those of you new to Mya I've talked a lot about what frustration means to me I don't really get frustrated when guys who can't get the job done don't get the job done I get frustrated when I see guys like Julio have bat at bats because I know what he's capable of I get frustrated when guys like JP Crawford and Mitch Garver you know who has been a terrific offensive player in the past you know those are the guys to get frustrated with there's just some guys here who can't get it done like like Josh Roos is just is not a starting player Dylan Moore is not a starting player Luke Ry really should be a bench bat even though he was terrific in August so yes more blame needs to go to the players than has been given I don't know if most of the owners should go to him Matt I totally get it totally get it I was nine in 1992 and I don't want to watch most of these games either yep it's it's the track record thing man how do they how how do you justify this how do you justify this how much are we regretting not trading for Adamas in the off season oh man I'm not really sure how truly available adamus was because if adamus was truly available like and I again I've talked about this a lot too everyone's available right the way the Brewers were operating if adamus was like really out there I think he would have already been gone but how great would he have looked and the Mariners should absolutely explore signing him in the off season for sure Kirby and JP to the Yankees for vulpe Wells Deming because the Yankees would never do it never do it they they wouldn't trade Anthony vulpe for a lot of things George kiry's just been too aggressively average JP Crawford should be leading off I mean you can't justify it you cannot justify it whole new infield I I wouldn't hate it I wouldn't hate it Soto fourth outfielder yeah why not why not five years 120 million for S Tander does he say no h it's good one I don't I I think that's probably right around yeah I think that's right around it it's probably closer to four years I would guess four years 100 496 something like that 480 if like the market plays slow but somewhere along that lines and he'd be a great addition everyone talks about the offense which is bad no doubt but if they had Brash and Santos all year they are probably still in it uh um huh maybe maybe they're certainly better I'll give them another three or four wins I'll give them another three or four wins why is Dan trusting Garver so much is just them seeing if they have anything or if they're going to eat money or did I miss something I think they want to get the most out of their 12 million JP at second base I totally agree with that he should be the second baseman next year and yeah uh let's see what has Justin Hollander done to earn that trust I just believe in him as a talent evaluator more than I do Jerry depoto I think that he is a better front office play guy than Jerry Depot Pho now again I'm giving him a short leash he has got to win but I think he has a better eye for talent than Jerry depoto how's next year's draft looking pretty good pretty good not great but pretty good yeah and see the thing is a robin I I I get what you're saying the Palanka one is like I think that's as big of indictment as their Player Development system than it is anything depoto and Hollander did I think it's an absolute indictment on what they did with him development wise and I will almost guarantee you Jorge palano go signs with another team next year and puts up strong numbers I will also pretty much guarantee he'll miss 30 games with a hamstring injury but I think he among all of these I is the biggest example of this team doesn't know how to get the best out of players that's just my humble estimation and hectic I I respect you but I don't think he sounds anything like Jerry depoto he actually takes accountability for when he talks and yeah Robert Harry Fort hasn't been great um maybe you just want to give him a look though because get that test looking to see but I don't think we're getting him up um let's see here sorry guys there's so many questions and again if you guys don't mind hitting the like button it would really appreciate it can't believe there's 70 of you ning poops in here right now there's so many questions to go through this is crazy all right where was I last I thought Jerry would be safe too but after this epic collapse in all of the Optics in the last month I think he's toast could be could be I think a lot of what could and look I'm not going to tell anyone to boycott stuff if you get crappy crowds for these last few weekends maybe maybe yeah I Nelson I think about it all the time think about it all the time that short stop market I don't think there's a chance to poto get show the door the guy with the power to fire him is thrilled with his performance competitive enough for attendants to rise and papay roll didn't go up that's my thing that that's 100% where I'm at to he satiates he's he keeps ownership happy enough without having to spend the big bucks um let's see Garber sucks I wish I could disagree uh is it coming from the pobo this dominate The Zone approach is that officially still our thing it doesn't feel like it's working it's not working you drew three walks against 10 strikeouts against pretty mediocre pitching today and a few of you bringing up the point that they could easily finish third heck they could finish fourth now I'm not betting on it but the way they're playing right now the way that they're playing right now I'll be honest Oakland looked like just as good of team as the Seattle Mariners today just as good outside of Castillo they looked just as good and you know what they've got a little bit of a long-term plan here I have some questions about the Mariners long-term plan really good system some really good players some unbelievable starting pitching but I have some real questions about that long-term plan I question someone's Phantom if their favorite player is JP there's a lot of them there's a lot of them St Stanton will still sit Stanton will sit boy boy that's tough Stanton will sit in the Diamond Club when we come home and see 15,000 fans maybe then I'll question Jerry didn't keep them in it until the end yeah totally possible and sander could get more than 120 I the question mark is going to be the defense um I would guess that the aav though is somewhere around that 24 to 26 can't have thoron pitch in high leverage totally agree if only we could have a GM for the Brewers away we did I'm sorry the Brewers of the West just not ran as well Brewers are the ceiling as our comp now yeah it's well said Andrew jock Peterson was one 19.5 we paid Garver 224 Jerry just can't eye the right Talent if they offer jock that I believe he says yes mean jock Peterson's been so much better than Mitch Garver I will say I would have much rather have had Mitch Garver than jock Peterson coming into the year but I'm not the GM I'm not the one who makes those decisions and there's no question that the mcar Garver era has been a disaster U let's see bruss and Santos aren't fixing the offense sure we may not have lost as many one-run games but you're still busy barely over above 500 with them yeah I think that's fair they're I think they're more in it with those guys if they're at their best and you have those guys I think they're better but it doesn't fix the offense you're right do you think players don't want to play here because of depoto I do he has always has to make trades but blames it on money uh I can't comment on that maybe someday I will there are things I know and they are things that I have to keep to myself do you trade Castile gerby Hancock rebuild around woo Gilbert Miller Julio CS DH try again him four years with the Ford and Etc and the miners plus trades might need the Dome back unfortunately so basically you're asking do you rebuild and no no I think there's just too much talent there's too much talent and I just can't let ownership get away with the rebuild reload reload use that talent that you have in the our farm system to make this team better you have some building blocks make the team better oh Brady this is a good comment right here no matter what you think of Depot's performance he's the Roger Goodell of the Seattle Mariners as he long as he continues to be the perfect human shield for ownership I think he keeps his job wow that's a good comp holy crap that's a good comp that's it and it's the Rob Manford situation too that's really well said I'm G to steal that Bradley really don't understand why veteran players over 30 need coaching it's a losing culture here I don't think they are held accountable I think that's part of it though part of coach is holding them accountable part of coaching is like I'm not talking about like changes they've made to Jorge palano swing or his stance or anything like that I'm talking about the fact that they just don't know how to get through to players to make those adjustments and there probably needs to be a little more tough love there probably needs to be a little more tough love when these guys falter let's see here who do you change to get the best out of players is it the GM where does it start I yeah I mean ownership has to get better that's not going to happen so Jordan Westberg for any of your starters I mean that would be something you have to explore have to be something you have to explore yeah and they're not signing Alex bregman Sunday can't get here soon enough yeah Seahawks please win uh any noise about muracami getting posted see noise about Roki maybe not but not as much as morami I don't think mami's getting posted this year and it kind of looks like ri's not either and he is furious about it Furious he was ticked off that he didn't get posted last year he's very upset but they want to keep him for as long as possible and I get it he's as talented as any pitcher in baseball Thorton made no sense to the last three nights you can't get to extra you need to give him the ball yeah they you can't rely on trit thoron in those situations we were 15 and six in one run games at one point if I'm mathing right holy crap how many of these losses in a row are one run by the way seems like a lot seems like a lot they have to nontender Roos and thoron no way they can bring him back next year yeah I would guess that they're both probably gone what was with the article about them letting Suarez go because the conditioning did anyone else see this a couple of people have brought that up to me I I didn't see it and it's certainly possible certainly possible but he got off to a horrible start but he's been awesome and good for him good for him I'll be rooting for the demon the demon backs I'll be rooting for them demon backs uh because I love Good Vibes let's see do just stop the Mariners aren't worth wasting time on them you're probably right but I appreciate you watching what are the chances we blow it up this off season I'd put it at like 20% 20 or so percent uh let's see here I'm curious how much of Misses on offensive Acquisitions just poor Talent evaluation versus refusing to pay a few extra bucks to get the guy they acally wanted we'll never know sadly I really can't get over Oakland turning Puck into JJ BL while depoto turned gravan and sea Wald into nothing I like Ryan Bliss I think Ryan Bliss has a chance to be a better player than JJ blay but I get what you're saying for sure I don't care who Jerry or Justin signs unless they fix the development stuff it won't matter somehow SoDo would be a 600 Ops guy man if Juan stto came here and and stunk I would give up I would absolutely give it up I thought that when depoto said Dan Wilson would be the permanent not interim manager that meant depoto was coming back could I mean I will say this just because Dan Wilson wasn't named interim manager doesn't guarantee that Dan Wilson manages the team next year there are lots of where guys get named fulltime and they don't come back the next year or if they come back they have a very short short leash I still think tooto is coming back for all the reasons I've talked about earlier that he's doing exactly what ownership wants couldn't help but laugh at the end of the game I felt no pain at all oh I giggled like hell Evan I absolutely giggle absolutely giggle it's really inexcusable the Mariners weren't in on SE Suzuki for 575 or Yoshida for 590 not extremely long-term deals not massive money just inexcusable I will say one of those players had absolutely no interest in joining the Mariners one of them did ownership wasn't okay with it ownership wouldn't go an extra year for Simeon three off seasons ago when he wanted to come to Seattle need to fire ownership for missing that badly and forcing us to go the wongo Stella Marcus Simeon the amount of crap I got for loving that signing for Texas divish Shang Muno says Elber sis well I'm gonna need a better Source I'm gonna need a better Source than Ry D I'm just kidding I'm just kidding but uh yeah that's bad and I would imagine they probably just shut him down pretty since percent chance they hire Pete Carol is the next year manager 54% sorry I had to do it I had to do it um I could see it uh thank you for these videos you're help me cope with the disappointment of the mess of the Season thank you Jacob that's the goal that's the goal that we all have somewhere to uh yeah did I see long legs yet no want to gonna need somebody to watch it with me that looks scary as heck uh no son I I think he might like it more than you think CU if you listen to him as a broadcaster you get the idea he doesn't mind too much being a mouthpiece Simeon was never offered money that's a lie he wouldn't speak to us I don't I don't know on the Simeon situation I just know that they should have tried but I had no information on that one uh philosoph ically I wish there was a better bigger organizational shift towards small ball manufacturing runs and putting pressure on teams in the base pass especially when budget is such a limitation I mean I want to see more contact I don't want to see them giving up outs like the whole productive outs thing I think to me in the year of 2024 with how good pitchers are and how hard it is to lay down bunts how hard it is with these shifts that still exist but yeah I want to see more contact for sure and you also have to acknowledge that the mar are being run like a mid-tier organization so you got to make some mid-tier decisions uh yeah thank you Michael Scar and again you jump to the left and you shake that hand you jump to the right you shake that hand I can't wait for the postmodern press conference when the season mercifully comes to an end o m goof man man oh man new alien movie was than logas I heard the new alien movie is terrific as well go Huskies indeed Brian hopefully we can I can don't have to stream an illegal stream to watch it uh I just want hits me too and yeah I think there has been some of that where guys have gone up there with the idea of walking where what you should be doing is looking for hitable pitches Jeff Assan letting Suk have it today blaming Jerry over the players was beautiful good Justin I'm gonna talk about the Tigers I promise you I'm gonna talk about him oh does a swing by the A's lock in in an emergency Molly wob on football Friday I doubt it Ian's probably got better things to do guy doesn't even let me host his show anymore by the way thank you to everybody who listened for that week that was just so much fun I can't believe that was almost two months ago but a lot of you who are in here right now listened and I really appreciate that it I honestly really enjoy watching the Tigers Carrie Carpenter yeah the tigers are fun Riley Green's gonna be a star thank you Matt I appreciate that Nick it frustrates the heck out of me you're thinking 10 and seven for the Seahawks and a wild card birth if they if they get off to a good start agreed because I think the schedule gets pretty tough but if they can beat especially with these crappy quarterbacks they're going to be facing like inexperienced quarterbacks is what I should say but I'm thinking nine and eight again and I don't mind nine and eight as much this year because I think they're building something but I think nine and eight this year and I think Gino's gonna have a really good year before Nelson yells at me There You Go Justin I like that yeah yeah three and0 turns into three and six quick very well could very well could hey Rola looked great I'm excited to see that Chicago or Nebraska Colorado game for sure oh yeah Nelson it just went like that just went like that now that Seahawks schedule gets tough real quick real quick um thank you guys I really appreciate this I might record another video just because we didn't talk about this game all that much but what is there to talk about AJ I have thought about it I might next year do Seahawk Recaps I might do Recaps for the Seahawk and I might do Recaps for the huskys and a weekly Kraken thing as well I'm thinking about turning this into a bigger thing because yeah if before you guys leave if you don't mind hitting like if you haven't subscribed yet I'd really appreciate it $499 to join the Maya y Enthusiast we'll have a live chat on Thursday I love you guys thank you so much the Mariners suck

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