and it's unprecedented and that's part of the reason why Donald Trump is scared to get on that debate stage with KLA Harris chairman Harrison as as uh we look at the fact that uh Donald Trump is now teasing that he may not uh show up for the debate one question I have is do you think the vice president ought to show up anyway and and expose that he is afraid to vote her uh I mean to de ha her and that uh she's willing to show up and stand up and in in in many ways I think he cannot find a way to deal with this prosecutor he's probably humiliated that the convention did much better in the ratings than his convention did and he's one of these that is is very much in the looking at ratings