Speaker 1: There was a very interesting moment
on CNN when Lara, Laura and Lara Trump went on to be interviewed. And what was so interesting
about this moment and the reason I want to show it to you is that Lara Trump was confronted
with Donald Trump's claims of voter fraud, not so much generically, but specifically when
it comes to mail in ballots. And Lara Trump sort of tries to explain why Trump's statements
are coherent, but they're not. And it is really a reminder that when these claims are subjected
to any serious scrutiny, they fall apart, particularly in the context of what happened
during the debate between Trump and Harris on Tuesday night when it was so egregious and
outrageous for Trump to say I did win 2020 or whatever. However he phrased it, I got more
votes than ever and all this stuff. It's a reminder that just because there are thousands of
hours of this stuff on Rumble and on right wing YouTube channels and it all seems like, wow,
it sounds like they're saying it so much. And I'm not hearing any counterpoint. Maybe it's
true. As soon as you subjected to scrutiny, it all falls apart. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 3: Laura, I also want to ask you about something he posted recently on Truth
Sociale, where he actually called on the RNC, the organization you're a co-chair of To Activate now.
And this was around mail in voting. He said he was quoting Tucker Carlson here with an election
expert that 20% of mail in ballots in Pennsylvania are fraudulent fraud. Here we go again. Where is
the attorney general? The FBI, to investigate. Where is the Republican Party in Pennsylvania? The
RNC must activate now. Now, in August, the RNC, your RNC and the Trump campaign launched a get
out the vote tool where Pennsylvania voters can request to mail in ballot directly. Is the former
president saying that Republicans in Pennsylvania should not ask for these ballots? And now quite
the opposite. Donald Trump wants every voter, no matter if you're voting Republican, Democrat
or third party candidate, to go after all that, you can vote. Any percent of them are fraudulent.
He's specifically referencing information from the 2020 election. What we're talking about right
now is making sure that every vote matters and every vote counts. And I've worked very hard on
information to see what evidence is there that 20% of the mail in ballots in Pennsylvania in
2020? I didn't see that report, so I'd have to go back and look at it. So I can't directly
speak to that. But what I can tell you is. Speaker 1: What a surprise.
Speaker 3: Worked very hard on the ground at the RNC to make sure every voter in
this country feels like when you cast a ballot, whether it's via mail, whether it's early voting
in person or whether it's on Election Day, in an election office around the country, your
vote matters and your vote counts. And Donald Trump very much wants every Republican voter to
vote. However, they feel most comfortable and every voter in this country to vote, however they
feel most comfortable. So I would have to go back and look at that. I have not studied that.
Speaker 1: Now, there I'm going to I'm not going to pick on CNN, but I want to point out a
couple of different things that are important to mention here. First of all, she allows Lara
Trump to get away with Trump was referencing information from 2020. I don't think so. I don't
think so. If you actually look at the Post, Trump didn't seem to be saying this was a problem
back in 2020. Trump seems to be saying that this is a problem now when it's about why now we have
to do this, that the other thing and invoke all of these different major actions in order to stop the
illegal votes and all of this different stuff. I think Lara Trump was let off a little too easy on
that. But more importantly, this whole concept of Donald just wants everybody to vote. However
they're most comfortable. And that's why now he's talking sometimes about mail in early this
that the other thing even though at times past he would say it's all completely fraudulent you
have to apply a filter. You know sometimes we say looking at the world through rose colored glasses,
you have to apply a filter of what's actually best for me. In 2020, Trump calculated anything other
than same day in-person voting is bad for me. Why Covid? He correctly assessed probably that his
voters aren't going to have any hesitation to go stand allow around large groups of people on
Election Day, but that Biden voters might because they are more conscious of the pandemic. And so
Trump calculated, if I try to shut down every other way to vote that doesn't expose people to
pathogens and say, you must go in and stand around the big crowds, it probably helps me. That's the
filter, the prism through which Trump saw it. In the intervening four years as the midterms
didn't go too well as these other forms of voting. They're not really other forms of voting. Other
schedules of voting, either earlier by mail, etc., have become more normalized and mainstream and
just kind of part of how we vote as they should be, because many, most developed countries
have versions of these. Trump now realized, wait a second, telling people not to do that
stuff probably hurts me at this point in time. So now I have to say that it's good, except
anecdotally I'm being convinced that it's not good. So Trump is in this impossible pretzel as he
always is, voting early and bye bye mail is bad, except he did it in 2020 and he did it in 2024.
In the primary. You know all the above as we saw. Florida. But that's different because it's
Pennsylvania is where the problem, Florida's no problem. So he's in this ridiculous position and
the absurdity of it trickles down where you end up with Lara Trump on CNN having to just lie and
go, no. When he said the thing about the mail in ballots and fraud, he was referring to 2020, even
though he was clearly referring to now this is what you end up with. And to a normal person with
average critical thinking ability. You see this and you just say to yourself, these are just lies.
There's there's there's no basis in fact here. These are lies. We've heard from the people paid
to go and find the fraud. People like my guest can block And he has explained beyond satisfactorily
that this is not happening. The people claiming it is happening seem mentally ill, like Mike Perillo,
for example. It just doesn't make any sense. And yet they continue to go on TV and claim it because
they are still kissing the ring. And of course, I mean, her last name is Trump. Of course, she
has to go and say that there is more that could be done here as far as pushing back. But it is
increasingly clear that this is just nonsense and it doesn't seem voters are actually falling for it
in any significant capacity at this point in time