what exactly would happen in terms of this settlement and how would this for college football college sports fans how would this impact the sports that they love yeah thanks I feel like I deserve an honorary law degree after having covered college sports for the last three or four years the the upshot of it all is that there's been a a huge shift in momentum in the past you know year but really even in the past few weeks where college sports leaders have sort of come to the acceptance that they're going to have to or would be behoove them to share Revenue with at least at the top end of college football their athletes moving forward through some kind of collective bargaining agreement and right now the Catalyst or the vehicle that might help at least get the first framework of what that agreement might look like you know all this usually happens through a players union in Pro Sports colleges don't have a Players Association like that set up yet so the first framework for what a revenue share agreement might look like would likely happen as part of a settlement for this antitrust lawsuit that's been going on for a couple years and the two sides in that case are getting pretty into the Weeds on a discussion of of what that framework would look like moving forward so for college athletes right now College athletes in the future we know that nil has gone from being the wild west to basically still the wild west and they're trying to put guidelines in place but the guidelines aren't necessarily real stringent there's you know different schools that are competing very much financially especially in the transfer portal for college football players right now if this goes through how if it all does that potentially allow the NCAA or other governing bodies to rein in some of the craziness that's led to what we've seen over the past several years the kind of things we see in Collective bargain agreements for Pro Sports lay out the ability for them to sign contracts that you know have a player staying somewhere longer than a year right now college sports with the way they transfer portal and nil has set up at least once a year sometimes twice a year players have an O opportunity to basically be unrestricted free agents and I think a lot of coaches and athletic administrators have realized that's not a great idea but in order for them to get a little bit of control back over that part of the game and they there are lawsuits preventing them from from making rules that prohibit that right now um they're going to have to give up something else in order to get that control back and that something else is is almost certainly going to be a piece of all of the TV money that has been pouring into college sports over the past couple decades how much is this also about the NCAA just fighting for survival as an organization in terms of you know we know that there have been proposals on could you you know have the big schools all band together and basically break off and form a completely different league for the NCAA to even be relevant to exist in five years how important is it for them to resolve some of these things from a legal perspective and at least have a path forward that they Remain the governing body here so the house case if it goes to trial and it's scheduled to go to trial next January could cost the NCAA somewhere between 4 and five billion dollars in Damages if they lose and it's a pretty good bet they're going to lose they their track record in these cases in recent years has been uh pretty rough so I I think that's the Big Mo one of the big motivations behind negotiating so it is an existential threat for the NCAA and I think we still may see a model in the future where the top 20 30 40 schools whatever it may be split off and do their own thing but the NCAA for the past 30 years or so has been uh a after school extracurricular activity when it's convenient for them to think of themselves that way and a huge multi-billion dollar entertainment business when they want to think about themselves that way we've reached a point where they're going to have to pick one of those two lanes and we may see some schools decide they want to take a step back and operate more like a D2 or D3 school but we're definitely going to see a group of schools say jump with both feet in into the sort of this is is a billion dollar entertainment industry and we're going to start treating it like one the amazing part and I'm not intending to put words in your mouth here Dan we appreciate you being here Dan Murphy staff writer for espn.com basically what I hear is this is this is illegal what the NCA is doing it's always been illegal we've been complicit in this for decades of letting them do the illegal things because we like football because we like March Madness we like those types of things in your mind if this model moves forward here does the fabric of the sport change does even potentially change for the better in terms of some of the things with nil and unlimited transfers and those types of things is this an improvement for the average fan or is this going to work to the detriment we're going to go completely you know down a different path here moving forward so the law is not quite black and white and that's why I think it's rough to it's tough to say that it's been illegal for the past 30 years really the Supreme Court and judges have changed their mind about how they interpret this murky part of the law that for a while gave the NCAA basically a special exception to violate some of the rules that no other industry in the in the country can can violate that that special exception is now gone which is why we've had this turmoil over the last three to four years in terms of what this means for fans if you are a fan that really wants to make sure that he sees Alabama play Jacksonville State because they live in the same state or wants to make sure that Ohio state is going to play akan every once in a while and likes those stories that might not happen in the future but if you're a fan who wants to see Ohio State play Oregon every week or Alabama play Texas we're going to see more and more of those matchups coming coming because I think what this is leading to is is a bigger separ separation between the 30 or 40 schools that are just playing in a different Stratosphere than everybody else with money right now catch the rich eyes and show every single day on the Roku Channel 12 to 3 Eastern for free