tell you what folks I heard something today uh and I've got an opinion on it I do have on most things I'm going to upset the odd person or two because I do on most things but I'm not doing it too upset I'm not doing it on purpose but one of the talking points on one of the shows this morning they said you might have seen that there's been a lot in the Press over the last few weeks since old Stam has got in about this big black hole they found in the government this 20 billion or whatever is that's gone missing and he seems to be looking at the pensioners uh to try and close some money back with various schemes I think one of the things he's done is he stopped the winter fuel payments unless you're on pension credit and you know I sort of get it I mean I'm getting to that age myself now um but I sort to get it um how he he's trying to balance the books I get that I get that he's got to Target pensioners as well as everybody else for various things I get that I understand if you've got pensioners some that have retired maybe we know mortgages a matter of loads and loads of money in the bank loads of properties and get how they don't really need that one two 300 pound a year whatever it is you know I would much have preferred it rather than stop everybody if certain pensioners came forward and said we don't need it just don't do it but I know it doesn't happen that way so I get what he's doing I get what he's doing there um but part of me thinks again pension has been it again you know the the this folk that aren't on pension credit that haven't got great savings they've got a Wicked cost of living I mean food and fuel Lems is killing them you know they've no leeway they've nothing they've no they've no money they struggling they're struggling desperately they struggling on a nightly basis and they're wrapped up in blankets and so on and so forth and they can't get warm and that can't be right so I've got real sympathy for those folk but I heard something today I thought that can't be right they saying they talking of taking it away from xats and I'm thinking Sur xats are those that live or work abroad AR they I even looked it up cuz I knew I was right but I thought I don't want to make a fool of myself here I'm making a fool of myself telling you this cuz I knew it anyway but I've just looked it up earlier ex Pat is somebody that lives or Works abroad and I'm thinking wait a minute wait a minute they might have been over here for years they might have paid the taxes because I know what that's what they'll say but I thought you can't be living abroad and getting the winter fuel permits now I know that they did I I've forgotten it but I've read it before but now everyone's tightening the belts with the cost of living crisis and when he's taking it off your normal run-ofthe-mill pensioners I'm thinking how on Earth can they be paying it to folks that don't even live in now the thing is this folks yes they may have paid the taxes they might well have done you might be listening from abroad you might have paid them yourselves but 80% I would suggest the folks that living AB are living abroad and maybe even more than that are living probably in Europe in your Spains your Frances your portugals and all that palaba the turkeys and they're probably lovely and warm yeah they'll get winter times over there but nothing like we get here there'll be a lot warmer they won't need it and most of them that are living over there are living over there cuz there's a much much much much lower cost of living they're living a better life in a better place they're reaping the rewards from that the fact that we're giving him winter field payments as well when they're not even over here to to accept them and to get War over here I think he's morally wrong I don't think he's right so I think that should have come off the table straight away I think before you start looking at pensioners you should have looked at pensioners that are living abroad that don't even live here take it off them no problem at all but as I say those that aren't on pension credits that are close to the bread line I'm not sure it should come off them at all I'm really really not they're struggling at the moment K they're really struggling you know you've got to look after those of Britain that haven't got it you really have but xats getting it no it's not for me I take it off them as I say I'm going to upset some folk but it's what I do I'm all right folks I'm I wrong I think more of you say I'm probably wrong but I'm still going to stick my neck out and say it and even if more of you do I still believe what I think I I stick to me beliefs and and that's me rightly or wrongly