but don't you think that like there there's a reason that a lot of the black community isn't doesn't have a father and it's because of systemic racism it's because like black men are more likely to be in prison oh yeah so why do people go to prison for like a lot of the time it's because they're in poverty and they have no other way to get okay so they commit crimes because there is they yeah but so like wait so wait they be why do they why do they so wa if you're in poverty we should give excuses for committing crime yes because if they have no murder not Mur I did not say murder I said like I I'm saying like if someone is stealing something because they have no money and there's no jobs that's so interesting so you think most crimes are crimes of necessity in the black community um I wouldn't I'm not saying most so like gang banging is like a crime of necessity that I've literally never said that I'm saying you're making an argument of crime is of necessity like they're so hungry they can't handle it I'm talking about like crime that has to do with like getting food getting stuff that you need to live right but we have food stamps for anyone that needs it so that doesn't exist we have we have subsidized housing for anyone that needs it so that doesn't exist we have free health care for any poor person that wants to call Medicaid that doesn't exist we also have welfare cash for any that wants this that doesn't exist so what is it they're missing that they need to go sorry about that um well the food like a a lot of food St like food stamps might not cover all of what they need and also housing is like there's not there's not not unlimited housing a lot of people who are unhoused have to like go to shelters and then they get kicked out of shelters because there's a mandatory stay limit so it's not like you just get house it's not a stuff thing though right it's like if you need stuff there's also tons of Charities out there that can provide assistance churches you will not go hungry in this country you will not starve in this country yes you will there's we have an obesity problem we have an obesity problem not a starvation problem in this country what are you talking about in State Street if anyone those people went to the local Episcopalian Church or Methodist Church they will get fed I guarantee it if they go to a local local food shelter they will get F okay but I'm talking okay housing okay for housing if if we have section8 subsidized housing in this country right if you want to have a roof over your head you can have a roof over your head with like a thousands of rules and you can't do of course yes I mean it's not ideal but the point is this so let's just go back to the crime and necessity right so why do people commit crimes I'm not saying why all people commit crimes I'm saying there are people who commit crimes because they have no other choice got it so why is it that other people that are as poor as they are in separate racial groups don't commit crimes at the same rates for example blacks are 133% of the population and they commit over 50% of the crimes why is that um black black black people I would say not blacks okay it's not I could say wh so you wouldn't care so anyway hold on hold on I I right I can say anics you wouldn't care so don't don't police my language whatever I'm I'm I'm not policing your language I'm just saying I would say black fa but the insinuation is that I'm being racist but that's fine okay that's your opinion um but so so black Americans are 133% of the population and commit anywhere between 50 to 56% of murders crimes carjackings why why is that well what percentage of the white population is living in the same level of poverty got it so you know there's twice as many white Americans in poverty as black Americans not same percentage but still if you look at white Americans in poverty they far they commit far less crimes than black Americans in poverty why is that maybe it's because when you're in a store like they follow black people and they don't follow white people what about murder rural rural no but why is it that like just saying murder why is it that black people commit so many more murders like that's not you're being followed in a store and you commit more murders yeah you're making the rle or I'll get to you in a sec but it's not it's not a good argument but let me just go back to one thing you said systemic racism right so the idea of systemic is that it's within our laws there are some black Americans here listening what can you as a white American do that the Black American cannot do um let's see I could go into a store and not get followed the police like the police could not track me down on like when I'm driving I'm not pro I'm less likely to get um shot and killed um while I'm driving I um there's a l L of things that I can do okay so just be clear so if you walk into a local CVS here how would you guys be treated differently well I would Pro they would probably say hello and they would probably like just walk like let me in and like not follow me and then so these are a lot of probabilities I don't believe you but I'm talking about laws right so what in the legal code of America can you as a white individual do that the black individual can't because systemic means it's in our code right it's like it's for example like Jim Crow totally get it that's systemic racism what is systemically your advantage um maybe like housing codes cuz I know redlining isn't a thing anymore but there is um like isn't there people who um are white are more likely to be given loans because of like they have less um like I know that's just the like it's um back from redlining like it it's a lot of the same stuff I I I don't I don't buy into any of that so I just kind of go you don't buy into red lining or you don't buy I don't buy any of that stuff that have to say in fact it's the opposite loans are now given favorably to Black Americans in certain cities over white Americans okay but so we because of I I believe I I know red lining existed I don't debate that of course I but because of Dei and because affirmative action there's actually a preference given but so let's go back to fathers right okay let's go back to fathers so something happened to Black America since 1965 so in 1965 so you mean the War on Drugs right well so if that's your contention that's fine so in order to again in order to go to jail for the War on Drugs you have to be dealing drugs right or you have to be caught with drugs so which is one of like the main jobs that you can have in a like poverty stricken like if there's no jobs like you're you're going to do drugs I mean you're going to trade drugs because that's the only option such a difference in worldview you're making excuses for criminals and what no what an insult to poor immigrants that came to this country that didn't commit crimes and work two or three jobs and worked themselves out of poverty and didn't decide to go deal Coke well my father is a white immigrant from Poland and he committed crimes and he's fine now did he go to jail yeah he did I thought there was systemic racism I thought it doesn't happen very much I I never said white people don't go to jail I said they go more and you're saying that white immigrants are fine and they don't far less actually I'm glad he went to jail he committed a crime I think that's think it's terrible so but the at the core of it we have a difference in worldview right my worldview is I'm not sympathetic to people that steal that loot and murder cuz that's a values problem and I don't like making excuses for people that do things that are obviously destructive secondly we have a problem in Black America the biggest problem is not racism it's the lack of dads if dads are around kids flourish and you know who agreed with me Barack Obama Barack Obama used to make this a central piece of his campaign he came to this campus back in 2012 Drew like 100,000 person crowd and talked about how we need to rebuild the black family and put dads back why doesn't the Democrat Party talk about that I'm I'm fine with having fathers there's I'm I'm not against having black dad for sure I'm saying but don't we agree has anyone heard that mentioned on the national scale in the last 10 years um yeah I mean we we we've heard about yeah and because there's bigger issues no there isn't see that's the issue is that in this is what makes us different as a conservative I focus on if you have family breakdown don't worry about climate change don't worry about systemic racism all that stuff is like these crazy abstractions create family problems systemic racism creates family problems if you take away black people from their families then they're going to have broken families so but that's interesting how are you taking them away aren't they leaving they're not staying with the women they're impregnating not so for example there there are there 13% of the population is black not every single person ends up in jail obviously and yet there's huge child abandonment because there's a cultural expectation that is different in Black America than in White America which is it's okay to impregnate a woman and abandoned her in Black America it's not based on what what is what is that based on that's a good question where does it come from it's just based on no I'm saying what is that like your view of Black America it's not a view it's true I mean don't take my word for it look at Thomas soul and Shelby steel that have done amazing analysis on this it's that in Black Culture that is not considered to be a stigma in white upper middle class culture for those of you that grew up in wakashaw or Libertyville or grew up in Hinsdale or grew up in naville you guys all know those neighborhoods if you impregnate a girl a woman and you just like abandon her that's frowned upon that is a social stigma in upper middle- class white culture and it's not in Black Culture No in fact it's glorified by the rap culture