Jason Kels shares the secret to the success of his and Travis podcast series Jason Kels has said that he loving relationship with his brother Travis Kels is responsible for the success of their podcast New Heights during an ESPN media day on Wednesday the former NFL player stated I believe on the podcast we get first and foremost a genuine loving bond between the two brothers uh we are honest with one another and it comes across and we have good personalities that I think generally audience members appreciate and like and like to want to watch and listen to which I do not know if I agree fully with that but they are there uh the 36 year-old athlete said when asked about Travis relationship with Taylor Swift Jason stated that they are both very open people I believe that we are naturally extremely open people uh that we share things and that we obviously lead interesting lives that others want to emulate uh and then um all of all of that helps because the more people wash the more money advertising pay uh he said uh for those who are unaware Jason and Travis just ined a million agreement with warre for for their forcast