joined Now by Zach curn a sports writer at the Wataga Democrat in Boon North Carolina where appalachin state is located now Zach I noticed a concerning trend is that appstate has been a giant killer over the years they've taken down these huge ranked teams now they're coming at number 25 Clemson is there a chance we see another big appstate away win and a big upset again I feel like with the momentum that both teams have coming into this game there's a big Poss that could happen and if you're Clemson you don't want to go to 0 and2 especially that almost almost signifying that your chances at playing for in the college playoffs could be over before a conference play even gets started appalachin State went from being you know the small school that ually you know could knock off the big guy to almost feel like if they don't do it now it's almost a disappointment do they rally the community to also believe that they're underdogs I feel like they do they have that Underdog that chip on their shoulder but they also I mean over the years have become very accustomed to going you know very having great Seasons winning conference championships going the bowl games and when they were FCS you know winning FCS championships and like I said the community really gets behind this team if the Tigers fans are in the crowd at Memorial Stadium what do you think will Intrigue them about this appstate team I think it's a lot a lot of their guts and their Moxy I mean you see a team that you know isn't going to beat themselves up with turnovers you guys are huge abs State fans you rally for your team in Boon North Carolina but if you're Clemson what does Clemson have to do to stop the chances of that upset possibly taking place I think the key is they've got to take app out of the game very quickly they got to find a way have a couple big plays that go for touchdowns and find a way to silence the the fans that are going to be there and you know put App State on their heels and see and see how they respond