Navigating the Shady World: Tales of Roy Cohn, Trump, and Mafia

I would love that huh I would love I would rub it in I would love to see I first thing I Ry know the I'm the only guy to beat you you know right I started off like that put him right on the defens um so let's some characters you know a couple characters that I'm curious about if you ever had a running with did you ever have any business with Roy Cohen I did how who how was his personality cuz you hear Roy Cohen the influence with Trump and you know he was working with the five families and everybody Trust him because he wasn't leaking any information to anybody you know the story that he had in the court many years ago that you read about all the time so who how was Roy Cohen he was respected but I'll tell you my my major Roy Cohen incident I get indicted in uh uh the Giuliani case Roy reaches out to me go to his office I go see him he said I heard about the case he says I can get your indictment squashed now Patrick nobody gets an indictment squashed not in the Federal level not when you're a Target like me I said okay I said what do you want he said I want 250 Grand he says and I'll make it go away I said I'll tell you what I said I'm calculating I got to go to trial this and that I lose you know I'm going to go I said I'll put a million dollars in escrow okay when the indictment is squashed take the whole million cuz I knew it wasn't going to happen he said well you know it doesn't work that way I said that's how I work it I said I'm giving giv you four three times the money four times the money I said I'm put it in escrow take it squash the indictment you got it that was the end of that he's trying to beat me yeah you know because then they come up with another excuse tell we never trusted our lawyers never trust even the Liv even the ones we loved we hated well you know jagani apparently had a great lawyer but Bruce Cutler you know who I'm talking yeah Bruce Cutler I knew Bruce well was he so he also people didn't trust him either you trust him to a point right cuz it's money it's my fees per hour and the whole you never you never ever ever admitted to your lawyer no matter how much you trust him that you were guilty was Roy trusted no really no seriously he was uh let me tell you something about their life and I don't mean this to be offensive anybody that wasn't a maid guy it could have been the president of the United States or the pope if you're not a maid guy you're a sucker everybody was on the same level and Roy Cohen if you could use him you used him but did we trust him hell no Bruce Cutler we use them everything else but you don't trust them 100% I mean that's just the way we dealt with them that makes sense