COMPARED TO A PRIMARY CAME AND
-- PRIMARY CAMPAIGN IN BETWEEN 19.
ON ISSUES LIKE THE BORDER AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
HOW SHOULD WE READ THE VALUES NOT BEING CHANGED?
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS RESPONDING BY SAYING SHE IS
STILL A RADICAL LEFT LEANING DEMOCRAT. >> THAT IS GOING TO BE THE
REPUBLICAN MESSAGE. SAN FRANCISCO LIBERAL.
THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT.
BUBBLY WHATEVER SHE SAYS, THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO SAY SHE
IS FLIP-FLOPPING OR THAT IS NOT WHAT SHE AT -- WHAT SHE
ACTUALLY BELIEVES. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT MOMENT.
SHE DID NOT GO THROUGH THE TYPICAL PRIMARY TO BECOME THE
NOMINEE. THIS HAS BEEN ON A MUCH MORE
EXPEDITED COURSE. JUST TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL
WEEKS REALLY SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME TO HAVE A REPORTER
SIT DOWN AND QUESTION ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGES FROM WHEN
SHE DID RUN IN THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IN 2019.
AND HER OTHER POSITIONS SHE HAD AS A SENATE CANDIDATE.
SHE IS MENTIONING IN THAT CLIP GANG ATTORNEY GENERAL OF --
CLIP BEING ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CALIFORNIA. KAILEY:
THIS IS THE FIRST INTERVIEW SHE IS DOING SINCE BECOMING THE
NOMINEE. TIM WALZ IS BESIDE HER FOR THE
ENTIRE CONVERSATION. REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN QUICK TO
CRITICIZE THAT DECISION. THERE IS HISTORIC PRECEDENT FOR
DOING AN INTERVIEW WITH THE TWO RUNNING MATES TOGETHER.
WE SAW THIS WITH CLINTON AND KAINE AND BIDEN AND OBAMA.
WHY DO THIS WHEN SHE HAS BEEN FACING SO MUCH CRITICISM FOR
NOT TALKING TO PRESS ENOUGH? KATE: IT IS COMMON TO HAVE THE
RUNNING MATE ESPECIALLY RIGHT AFTER THE CONVENTION OR RIGHT
BEFORE THE CONVENTION DEPENDING ON WHEN THE RUNNING MAN IS
NAMED. THIS IS UNUSUAL BECAUSE YOU DID
NOT HAVE THE GLARE OF THE MEDIA SPOTLIGHT THROUGH A LONG
PRIMARY WHERE YOU HAD SOMEBODY ERR ALL OF THEIR POSITIONS AND BE QUESTIONED NOT JUST BY
REPORTERS AND THE MEDIA IF YOU WILL BUT QUESTIONED BY THEIR
RIVALS. THERE HAS NOT BEEN THAT. THERE HAS NOT BEEN A DEBATE.
WE ARE ABOUT TO GET INTO THE FIRST DEBATE SOON.
THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY. THE FACT IT IS BOTH OF THEM IS
NOT PARTICULARLY UNUSUAL AT THIS TIME OF A CAMPAIGN BUT IT
IS UNUSUAL BECAUSE THE PRIMARY WAS AS IT WAS.
IT WAS A TRUNCATED PERIOD. KAILEY:
THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED IN MODERN AMERICAN POLITICS.
THIS INTERVIEW WAS CONDUCTED OR RECORDED WHILE HARRIS AND WALLS
ARE IN -- HARRIS-WALZ ARE IN GEORGIA. IT COMES AT A TIME AT WHICH FOX
NEWS RELEASES A POLL THAT SHOWS THEY ARE DOING BETTER IN
GEORGIA. THEY HAVE HARASSED UP BY TWO
POINTS IN GEORGIA AND NEVADA. ONE POINT AND ARIZONA.
TRUMP UP ONE POINT IN NORTH CAROLINA.
ALL THIS IS IN THE MARGIN OF ERROR BUT THIS DOES SUGGEST SHE
HAS A WHITER MAP THAN JOE BIDEN DID. KATE:
THAT IS TOTALLY CLEAR. SHE DOES HAVE A WHITER MAP.
SENATE MINORITY LEADER MITCH MCCONNELL WAS TALKING TODAY AND
SAID HE THOUGHT WHAT DEMOCRATS DID WAS PRETTY SMART.
HE THOUGHT JOE BIDEN WAS GOING TO LOSE.
IT DOES SEEM IF YOU BELIEVE THE POLLING, THAT SEEMS THE CASE.
HE WAS NOT DOING WELL IN NUMBER OF BATTLEGROUND STATES.
VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS HAS PICKED UP STEAM IN. THAT PROBABLY EXPLAINS WHY DO
THIS BUS TOUR THROUGH GEORGIA. WHY TRY TO REACH MAYBE NOT
NECESSARILY READ VOTERS BUT RED STATE VOTERS AND GOING INTO RED
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. KAILEY: IT IS NOTEWORTHY THEY HAVE BEEN
TARGETING RURAL AREAS WITH A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF BLACK
POPULATION. THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS
WHAT IT REVEALS ABOUT SENATE RACES IN SOME OF THE STATES
LIKE IN ARIZONA. THEY HAVE RUBEN GALLEGO UP
DOUBLE DIGITS AGAINST KARI LAKE. JACKY ROSEN WHO WAS SEEN AS A
MORE VULNERABLE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR LEADING HER OPPONENT BY
DOUBLE DIGITS. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THE
DUMBBELL IMPLICATIONS OF THE HARRIS CANDIDACY? KATE:
IT IS HARD TO KNOW IF THIS IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE HARRIS
CANDIDACY AND HAD A GOOD CONVENTION LAST WEEK.
IS THAT COMING OFF OF THAT? BUT THE SENATE MAP, WE WANT TO
SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN MONTANA WHERE SENATOR JON
TESTER IS PROBABLY IN THE FIGHT FOR HIS POLITICAL LIFE.
WHAT ABOUT OHIO? THIS IS LIKELY TO BE A CLOSE
SENATE NEXT CONGRESS AS WELL. BUT IT IS HARD TO DIRECTLY SAY
IS THIS BECAUSE OF MOMENTUM FROM HARRIS, IS THIS ENTHUSIASM
FROM HARRIS BEING ATOP THE TICKET? PERHAPS.
IT IS NOT HURTING IN THE SENATE BATTLEGROUNDS. KAILEY:
THIS IS A REMINDER THAT AS MUCH POLICY AS HARRIS MAY OUTLINE,
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH SHE HERSELF COULD ACHIEVE.
YOU NEED CONGRESS TO DO A LOT OF THESE THINGS. KATE ACKLEY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR JAKE
SULLIVAN WRAPPED UP A THREE-DAY VISIT TO CHINA THAT SAW HIM
TAKE PART IN TALKS AIMED AT STABILIZING THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE SUPERPOWERS AND SIT DOWN WITH XI JINPING.
HE SPOKE TO PRESS IN BEIJING. >> IT IS RARE TO HAVE THIS KIND
OF EXCHANGE. KAILEY:
JOINING ME NOW FOR MORE IS NICK WADHAMS WHO LEADS OUR NATIONAL
SECURITY COVERAGE. . IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE
EXCHANGES THAT TOOK PLACE OVER THE LAST THREE DAYS WHILE HE
WAS IN BEIJING BUT ABOUT EXCHANGES THAT COULD HAPPEN IN
THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF A PHONE CALL BETWEEN XI JINPING AND JOE
BIDEN. NICK: I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
SEE IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION RUNNING THROUGH THE TAPE WITH
CHINA BUT ALSO SAYING WE DON'T WANT ANY SURPRISES.
WE DON'T WANT ANY FUNNY BUSINESS.
WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP. CHINA IS GOING TO BE A SOMEWHAT
IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THIS CAMPAIGN GIVEN DONALD TRUMP HAS
MADE CHINA BASHING PART OF HIS CAMPAIGN ACCUSING DEMOCRATS OF
BEING WEAK ON CHINA. WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS A DESIRE
TO MAINTAIN STEADY ORDER. KEEP THINGS SMOOTH.
THERE WERE NO DELIVERABLES OUT OF THIS.
THE POINT WAS THE CONVERSATION AS HE MENTIONED.
THESE EXCHANGES ARE VERY RARE BUT VERY DELIBERATE.
THE FACT THAT HE WENT THERE. HE SAID THE POINT WAS THE TALKS.
USUALLY HE WOULD GO AND HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS THAT GOT
ACHIEVED FROM THIS THING. AT THIS POINT IT SEEMS TO BE
LIKE LET'S KEEP THINGS COOL AND COLLECTED. KAILEY:
SOMETHING ELSE WE HEARD FROM JAKE SULLIVAN WAS THE IDEA
KAMALA HARRIS HAS THE FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE AND IT COMES
TO THIS RELATIONSHIP HAVING INTERFACED WITH CHINESE LEADERS.
TO WHAT EXTENT IS THAT TRUE? HOW IS THE VICE PRESIDENT
INFLUENCING POLICY DECISIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE
CHINA AND EXPORT CONTROLS? NICK: I DON'T THINK THING -- THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID SHE HAS BEEN DEEPLY IN THESE COUNCILS. .
IT WAS INTERESTING AS PART OF THE EFFORT TO ESTABLISH HER
FOREIGN POLICY CREDENTIALS, HER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR SENT
A MEMO AT ONE POINT SAYING SHE HAD MET WITH XI JINPING DURING
A VISIT TO ASIA AND THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT INDICATOR OF HOW THE
U.S. IS TRYING TO SHAPE THE RELATIONSHIP.
THAT WAS MORE OF A HANDSHAKE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
IT IS A TELL WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION CITES THIS SHORT
MEETING KAMALA HARRIS HAD WITH SHOOTING PAIN AS AN INDICATION
OF HER FOREIGN POLICY CHOPS. ON THE OTHER HAND, A LOT OF
PRESIDENTS HAVE COME TO OFFICE OR BEEN ELECTED HAVING HAD ZERO
INTERACTION WITH CHINA. THE ONLY ONE PREVIOUSLY TO HAVE
BEEN THERE BEFORE THEY SERVED IN OFFICE WAS GORGE H W BUSH HE
HAD BEEN THE AMBASSADOR. THIS IS NOT A PARTICULARLY NEW
THING. SHE DID HAVE SOME OF THESE
INTERACTIONS AS VICE PRESIDENT. THERE IS THIS NOT QUITE
MYTHMAKING BUT AN EFFORT TO SAY SHE WAS DEEP IN THIS STUFF.
THIS WAS POLICY THAT WAS ON A RAILROAD TRACK FOR A LONG TIME
THAT SHE WOULD NOT HAVE INFLUENCED. KAILEY:
IT IS ABOUT THE U.S. CHINA RELATIONSHIP. THE U.S.
IS CONCERNED ABOUT CHINA'S RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHERS
INCLUDING RUSSIA GIVEN THE ONGOING WAR IN UKRAINE.
TO WHAT EXTENT CAN WE EXPECT THIS ADMINISTRATION TO PUT
PRESSURE ON CHINA IN THAT REGARD EVEN AS THEY SEEK
NORMALCY ELSEWHERE? NICK: THIS HAS BEEN THE GREAT TENSION
IN THIS ADMINISTRATION. ON THE ONE HAND, THEY SAY WE
SEE CHINA AS BEING AN ENABLER OF THE RUSSIAN WAR IN UKRAINE.
THEY HAVE NOT SAID THEY ARE PROVIDING LETHAL WEAPONRY BUT
THEY ARE COMING PRETTY DARN CLOSE TO THAT LINE.
THEY WANT CHINA TO CUT THAT OUT. AT THE SAME TIME, THEY DO NOT
WANT TO PROVOKE ANOTHER MAJOR ROUND OF TENSIONS ESPECIALLY
GIVEN THESE TWO COUNTRIES ECONOMIC INTERDEPENDENCE AND
CHINA'S OWN ECONOMY IS STRUGGLING.
THE FEAR AGAIN IS NO OCTOBER SURPRISES.
LET'S NOT GET INTO ANY SORT OF MAJOR TENSION BEFORE THE
ELECTION AND JUST KEEP THINGS CALM FOR THE TIME BEING. KAILEY:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.