yeah so uh Minnesota's had a pretty crummy off season uh JJ McCarthy is out for the year I think with the Tor miniscus and dar was officially the starter uh Jordan Addison was carded off at practice yesterday uh Minnesota was already plus a thousand to win in the division before this what do you think their chances are at winning anything at this point and should the T should the should the Vikings just go full out tank and trade Justin Jefferson to maybe the Chiefs they no okay they're not going to trade Justin Jefferson uh and they listen they this is brutal for them because it so I couldn't believe this fact but then I thought about it I'm like oh I guess it kind of makes sense JJ McCarthy is going to be the first quarterback drafted in the first round in the common draft era which means since 1967 so we're talking about more than 55 years to miss his entire rookie season with injury without ever playing a single a single snap so you might say well that's crazy and then I thought about it I'm like well that would mean you would have to get injured before week one which is what happened to him so it is relative we've had guys sit their whole rookie season we've had guys like Anthony Richardson play briefly get hurt and then miss time he's the first guy first round quarterback ever to miss his entire rookie was that the first game no so but that was that was not his rookie year that was he got injured in the SEC in in year two and he got there and there have been plenty of guys to play Zero snaps their rookie year but not because of injury it was because of a momes Alex Smith situation but even in that situation Mahomes played the final game of that season so it is it is brutal for Minnesota for this season the bright side is twofold one is the torn meniscus is a tricky one because there's two procedures you can do and it's counterintuitive as far as the impact it has and how it works if you tear your meniscus you can do a procedure where they just trim the meniscus basically shorten it and you can be back in a month they the the the other option they have is to repair the meniscus fix the tear and you're out 4 to six months so why wouldn't they just trim it the reason you did you choose to repair it and not just trim it is because the trim can shorten your career and lead to longer term knee issues Dwayne Wade is a guy who early in his basketball career suffered a torn meniscus they trimmed it and he would tell you that's one of the reasons that 8 n years later he had all those knee issues and now he's calling the Olympics alongside Noah Eagle watching LeBron his draft mate play in the Olympics when d-wade's career ended years ago so the I was worried that the Vikings were going to and JJ was going to opt to do the trim because man I don't want to miss this full season you do a trim I could be back out there by week two or three they did the judicious smart thing but it's just so whack for them that he's now out for the year they're and go ahead go ahead sorry um no it was just go ahead they're over under is 2 and a half now uh do you think that's little is that a little crazy no whoever I listen I know the producers put that in there that's impossible that that's true that's not your mistake there's no chance that's accurate and if they if the producers show me that that is correct I will put $50,000 on it before the end of the podcast that just put that he just put it in the rundown okay but that's the that's their hold on that that's their division wins so they they were the producers wrong twice that there's 0% it's two and a half um division wins you only get six respect so yeah two no no no no the I I honestly I doubt it changed their over under uh much because a rookie JJ McCarthy versus Sam darnold who's just going to be bad but you know is a seven-year vet they they over under before the injury was 7 and2 my guess is it's still right around that still so I don't actually think it impacts their ability it lowers their ceiling this year because maybe JJ was going to light the world on fire and I did love his performance in that preseason game um but it it does not it doesn't really make them you know the worst team in football this season anything like that uh it just a bummer because you wanted him to take his lumps this season you wanted him you wanted him to learn from this season now one bright side is that I think JJ was JJ was going to be if he played week one the second youngest quarterback to ever start a game in the NFL the youngest was actually darnold he's 21 years old Okay so even with him missing this year he's going to start his career at 22 years old compare that to for example Michael pinck who is 24 B Knicks who turns 25 this season or at the very end of this season so he's still so young that I think he'll be okay it's just if you're a viking fan you've had such a sad off seon you hey thanks for watching hit the Subscribe button to get more from the show and make sure 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