i don't know what is protocol but you spent probably five minutes with philip rivers on sunday like you actually had a conversation with him what what are you supposed to do post game you know what is protocol with two quarterbacks after a game i think it just depends uh depends on how well you know the guy or uh how you feel about him or how you feel about seeing anybody after the game um you know we lost obviously a difficult one there in overtime uh coming back tying it getting the ball back and turning over and then and losing i just i mean i really like phil i've known him for a while uh here and there and known him from afar you know watching him play and have a ton of respect for for him and i just you know if the conversation's easy you stick around and that's it was it was good to you know just pay my respects and we can't ask him about his kids because then you'll be there for a half hour he's got like nine or ten of them well it's funny because i said i said hey you guys working on number nine yet he said you already had me [Laughter] looked amazing where have you been come on oh yeah behind i thought i thought eight was the last one and maybe