as you mentioned when you were starting out or you were working people just thought that that's who you were with the accent but by the time you get to shun and the establish career that you've already had they're like well yeah we know what what Neer can do if we need him to do it he can he can do it and you show up in there and you do that but you mentioned Justin marks I had the I had the pleasure of actually meeting Justin marks and working with them for a brief second in when I was working at Warner Brothers and oh that's great yeah we had a we had a thing that we were kind of doing and he's he's a phenomenal person I really like Justin a lot and he's super ented and everything that he's done U from Top Gun Maverick to to this and everything so I was reading a lot of stuff of what he had said and this roller coaster of season 2 with Shogun this roller coaster of oh they're going to do uh they we can't do it there's nothing else that we'd be able to do the books it only goes to this one thing and then it's like well FX is kind of knocking on the door I guess or other people and it's like hey so have you you hear anything about this or you just kind of like us same thing what the hell's happened with season two I you know I'm I'm sort of out of the loop on that in that regard I haven't talked to ju you know I emailed with Justin a little bit after the nomination he was very sweety reached out to me and and we em met back and forth you I congratulated him obviously on his tremendous incredible work um um I'm hoping to see him at the emys you know and and catch up with him but I I can only imagine because I think they picked it up for two seasons is that right yeah two and three yep three so I I you know I can only imagine um what that writer room must be like because you're abolutely right I I don't know where they're going to go with the story and you know who knows but uh but uh I'm excited to see what he comes up with what he and Rachel did was you know and I'm sure you guys agree was extraordinary the way that they focused on sort of those power dynamics with within the regions so Japanese regions and really exploring the chess match of of what they did and where you see you know taga a hero playing this basically this grandm you know how Justin crafted and and Rachel how they crafted this incredible sort of it felt like the entire season felt like a chess match and in the most beautiful way um was extraordinary so I can only wait to appreciate that the following chess match because I'm sure a lot of it will be about manipulation I imagine it will be the next two seasons you guys shot in 2001 which is quite a bit of time ago is the conversation on set when you're shooting we know this is only one season is that how everybody felt you know I I just assumed it was I assumed it was because you know the original miniseries was you know was that was just a miniseries and I figured well it's a book and then there's no sequel to the book that really picks up where it left leaves off yeah all the other books are sort of their own entities so I just assumed I I truly just assumed it was a miniseries and then uh and I was hoping to do the last episode there had been talk about me coming back for episode 10 but I think they couldn't figure uh you know all the elements out at the time um so I just you know I I just love and enjoyed the ride when I was on it um I will tell you this though Roxy it was I I've never been a part of something certainly in TV as as as epic in scope you know so like on we we shot like at the tail end of Co it was still it was post you know shutdown is when things were starting to open up a bit but you know we're in Vancouver and their laws were pretty stringent still at the time so we were double Mass you know we're Mas or we had a shield even outdoors and it was a whole you know and we were tested every day naturally but Wednesdays and Fridays everyone was tested everyone and so I remember one Wednesday I walked in and I was like well what number am I today and they're like you're number 1534 wow and that's so yeah that's how massive you know I mean obviously they every subcontractor had to come in and get tested anyone remotely Affiliated had to get tested on those two days and I was like you've got to be kidding me this many people are working on this production yeah isn't that crazy how as you were talking before Neer with the change in the business overall how crazy that is to even imagine that that kind of scale would happen on television like if like 20 years ago you could even imagine that I mean I remember when Rome came out on HBO and it was like I remember I think it was like a hundred million do for that show everyone's like oh my God that's they're breaking the budget here and that's they were like ahead of their time in what they were doing so can I mean from your perspective how different is it and the opportunities maybe are there more opportunities obviously through doing something epic and cinematic like that how do you think it's changed you're absolutely right Christine I mean it it it is I mean dramatically changed I even remember uh with lost as a pilot you know that that pilot alone was massive and and and still I I just rewatched it long ago because I took part in the documentary uh the Lost documentary and so I wanted to rewatch The Pilot it's it holds up I mean that thing is it's it's I mean it's J.J Abrams you know but it's also even in terms of the special effects and how big it was it was like that that was a big deal certainly for Network massive for Network um yeah I mean I I I still Marvel at the amount of you know money that goes into executing these epics you know it is extra Game of Thrones obviously you know the other obvious one um I'm Amazed by it I mean you see it obviously on the bigger features on the you know the tent pole features and I certainly got a taste of that on Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises I mean those are you know they're massive uh budgets but you just I've never seen that certainly not when they started out in television you know 30 years ago it was unheard of um it's it's amazing and I love that the the streamers at the the studios are getting behind television in this way because we're also getting to explore characters in a more profound way we're getting 10 episodes as opposed to two hours you know so you're really you're really getting to explore all of these characters and in a deeper way so I'm I'm glad that that much uh that that many resources have been shifted to television