Judge Judy [Episode 10020] Best Amazing Cases Season 2O24 Full Episodes HD

24-year-old Tanya bla is suing her ex- stepfather John Colligan III for the return of payment she made on a vehicle he repossessed from her order all now case number 30 on the count in the matter of Blair versus Kagan thank you you're welcome judge priz have been sworn in you may be seated ladies have SE Miss player the defendant was your stepfather according to you for 19 years and you think he should pay you the payments that you made on a car some sort of vehicle the down payment was put down by your stepfather with the understanding that you were going to make payments on the car which you did for some time two years ago you stopped making payments on the car and your stepfather repossessed the car your mother and stepfather have gone through what I perceive to be an acrimonious divorce that be a fair statement yes and you've waited two years and now the divorce is final so you decide to come to court and sue him for the payments that you made three and four years ago on the car M aond 2005 and the reason you're going to tell me that you waited two years to sue for payments that you made three and four years ago on the car is because I was waiting for my parents divorce to be final and um I actually didn't want to sue him because he is my stepfather and he's done a lot for me so then why are you suing him now I'm suing him because I made two years of payments yeah that was three and four years ago you drove the car three and four years ago right yes and he took my car away after the divorce and I felt like he did no he took the car away 2 years ago I understand when was the divorce finalized in 2010 he took the car back in 2009 yes were they separated then yes they were and the car was in his name yes it was so now if you didn't sue him then why are you suing him now I just felt bad to sue him he's my stepfather and he's done so much for me and well if he's done so much for you then why are you suing him now because I made over $7,000 payments on the car and it was a gift to me for gradu it wasn't a gift to you you were making payment you can't have it both ways you can't have listen to me you can't have a gift and making payments on it if he put the down payment on the car and you were making payments that was a gift of the down payment not a gift of the car because you said to me you were making payments for 2 years that's what your lawsuit is about yes do you understand you got to get your theory straight I understand all right you drove the car for two years yes and you paid $3,500 a year three and four years ago for the privilege of driving the car I don't know why you stopped making the payments well your honor I had lost my job in 2009 and I had called John because he said that if I ever needed help with anything I could ask him for anything and so I had called called him to let him know and he said he'd help me out for with $100 which I didn't take and um he came and he still took the car away from me in me how much later after you called and told him that you couldn't make any more payments I made the payment in January of 2009 and he came and took the car in May in May yes well so who do you think made the payments for February March and April nobody at the time not at the time who made the payments in February March and April February and March uh it was 2 months behind okay and who ultimately made those payments nobody I actually did your own of course of course the loan was in his name the car wasn't his name what I don't understand is if you had a nice relationship with him put the graduation card down you have to have a theory either it was a total gift which it clearly was not the down payment was a gift and the understanding was that you had with your stepfather was that you were going to make the payments on the car every month which you did for two years until you lost your job and couldn't make the payments anymore and he repossessed the car that's 2 years ago you can't wait until their divorce is final that's a long time I still don't understand why you're here if the reason you didn't take any action before was because he helped you and because you cared for him what's changed well your honor I feel like I made $7,000 of my I put into the car I feel like I deserve my well let me ask you this how old are you 24 all right you you got a car in 200 2005 the year of the car was 2005 yes so it was a brand new car yes what kind of car was it a Honda Civic do you think that Honda Civic appreciates and value or depreciates in value appreciate no it doesn't appreciate sh it depreciates in value as soon as you drive it out of the store it depreciates in value so if the loan was in your stepfather's name as soon as you drove that car out I don't know how much the initial loan was you want to tell me sir it was $133,000 the initial loan was $133,000 and that has nothing to do with whatever a down payment was put down on the car so I'm going to ask bird to look up the value of a 2005 Honda Civic how much did you put down on the car sir your honor my uh credit was outstanding at that time just tell me how much I didn't put anything down I just signed the so the car was $113,000 that was the gross price of the car is that correct the 13 975 correct $144,000 got a bunch of Honda Civics here what kind of was Itor just a standard Honda Civic uh twoo automatic was an Alex now your honor you want to hear why I picked the car up or not yet at all okay so far you're not losing okay I'm trying to exp 6825 so now it's worth $6,800 you know that's de appreciation that's what happens when it goes down if he took the car back because you weren't making payments he still had to make whatever payments you didn't make and the balance of the loan when you stopped making payments what was the balance of the loan I don't know I know that number go ahead that number was 5,000 and some change your honor and I got a call from Honda Finance don't listen to me all I want to know is how much it was $545 when I received a call from Honda Finance that's what was left on the car on the note when you repossessed the car did you sell it immediately or did you use it I did not use the car and I called Tanya and asked her or she called me I can't recall what we did have a conversation and um I said I believe it was $4,800 listen to me sorry did you sell the car or do you still have it I sold the car youron when uh August of 09 and what did you sell the car for what was owed what was owed yes ma'am so now I just want you to follow this you step father took back the car because you had missed 3 months worth of payments he sold the car for what was owed on the car now you want $5,000 from him yes I do R her M say something what do you want stand up when you talk to uh during the process of the divorce he did get paid for that car by me and it shows in the papers here he did get paid so he kind of got paid doubled and it was a gift cuz I was there just a second wasn't a gift if your daughter was making payments and happen it wasn't she wasn't making payments I'm sorry she just told me she was making payments I'm sorry you're on but she was that was not the deal L listen to me she just told me she made $7,000 listen to me carefully I've got exactly where you're coming from she just told me that she made $7,000 worth of payments your mother mother says you're lying no just a second your mother says you're lying did you make $7,000 worth of payments on the car yes I did your honor your daughter says she made $7,000 worth of payments on the car is she lying to me not then she was making payments on the car for some reason this divorce judgment didn't turn out the way 100% you wanted it to turn out right no yeah because a lawsuit that hadn't been brought for two years by your daughter because she said that this man was very good to her over the course of 19 years all now sit all of a sudden you're here you better explain you have no case I'm not interested in your mother's divorce if he was nice to you for a period of 19 years you should be a nice person to him now being a nice person to him doesn't necessarily have to mean that you're disrespectful to your mother who would probably like to gouge his eyes out that is not your problem Judge Judy continues in a moment if he gives you money you're ahead of the game and he's behind the eight ble any bank would have repossessed your car and later today you know I'm going to do you a favor Mr Blackburn I'm going to let you confer with your mother for a second go over there and confer with your mother before you sound any more ridiculous Tanya BL claims ex- stepfather John Colligan III illegally repossessed her vehicle now you should not let your mother interfere with what had been a pleasant relationship with him who is this this is my witness your honor uh Jerry a witness too well the reason why the car got picked up well I got to tell you the story so you'll I'm not interested in the story you're not losing I don't need to the story and I don't need to hear from Jer I feel like he took the car from me because of anger out of anger because of divorce well you may feel that way and I want to tell you something Miss bler listen to me carefully my dear if you had made the payments February March and April ail I would hear you but you didn't and you owed those payments and the loan wasn't in your name and your credit wasn't being affected only his he had an absolute right to take back the car absolute right to take back the car hon do you understand yes I do great that's all I wanted to know if you understood now you want to say a butt he doesn't owe you any money if he gives you money you're ahead of the game and he's behind the eightball and that's unreasonable when you you breached the agreement your agreement was according to you cuz she said you made $7,000 worth of payments that you would make your payments and you called him I read it in your complaint and said I lost my job and you didn't make payments for 3 months any bank would have repossessed your car yeah he also told me that if I needed any help with anything to call case is dismissed that's thank you our excuse me step out he came with two officers in the morning and he came to take the car yeah that's kind of tacky she didn't realize the car was is going to be repoed by Honda it was a gift to me it was I was there when he bought the car and I told him don't get her a brand new car but he said I want her to have something brand new it's all her own she's very bitter woman I really didn't want to pursue this but you know I put seven ground into it and I felt like I had to T was a good girl and it just sad to see that uh it had to end this way very hard life goes on and I think Tanya will be fine and now the next all parties in the matter of Worthington versus Johnson step forward 22-year-old Jennifer Worthington is suing her ex-boyfriend Justin Johnson for loans to buy a car and pay for his car registration and cell phone bills Miss worington how old are you 22 do you work yes who do you work for I work for the maritan YMCA what kind of work do you do uh for the first year I worked at the childn infant Center and now I work at the preschool and you work full-time just 38 hours who do you live with right now I live with me and my son do you support him yes by myself his father's not in the picture how old are you 28 ma'am who do you live with I live with my uh fiance's parents and what do you do for a living right now I'm work at Midstate tractor in midletown Connecticut uh I work at the parks department full-time Miss Worthington gave you some money yes you're when around 2009 um I met Mrs Worthington and actually Iraq I was on Facebook and I met her it was 3 months prior to get back from Iraq when I came back we started dating and I have a four-year-old daughter too so at the time it was hard to get back and forth from crownwell to uh Meridan and Miss Worthington offered to pay for a vehicle for me what was she doing at that time she was working at the the place that she was working at and she had a child B yes that she was supporting yes you get where I'm going yes but I was also financially a hurting too and she was who cares understandable who cares understandable I'm familiar with the area where you live you have family there yes ma'am you have a mother yes ma'am you have a father no ma'am you have siblings yes sir how many I have one brother and one sister why don't you go for them if you were strapped for money why don't you ask your mother for money what do you ask a single mother who's working to support her child for money I didn't ask for the money ma'am you took it it was a gift you took it yes ma'am give it back hold on to your money you put together a few hundred put it towards your son's college MH don't give it to a bum who's not going to return it to you yes ma'am how much did she give you Mr Johnson alog together probably around 2500 for what for purchasing the vehicle helping me with so I could get back and forth to see her and also to see my daughter just a second who still has the car I do ma'am give her the car car is in my name no give it to her you think that she gets any pleasure out of you taking the car that she bought for you to take your fiance out for dinner probably not ma'am probably not and how much did you pay for the car I paid a th000 for it how much did she give you for the car 1,500 to pay for it and register it what else did she give you money for to pay for my phone so I could contact her and also to pay for the phone bill and how much was that alog together probably about seven you spent $700 on calling her no ma'am it was Prior going to Iraq so so you couldn't get a phone turned on cuz you hadn't paid a phone bill you sound like a real charmer thank you $700 yes ma'am what else just miscellaneous stuff too I'm not interested in miscellaneous stuff you have anything else other than miscellaneous stuff the phone Miss judgment for the plane tip at the $2,200 that's all you may step out Jud Judy she was tough and she was Herm I let him the money it was never a gift it was a gift so that's how I took it my son's father is not in the picture and I think that it was honorable of him to step up and want to be in his daughter's life maybe I thought she was trying to buy him my affection I never tried to buy his affection I was just coming back from Iraq I wasn't trying to have like a relationship not to let scumbags borrow money not to be his comeback and now the next case all parties in the matter of Schmidt versus Blackburn step forward please 19-year-old Jessica Schmidt is suing her ex-boyfriend 20-year-old Jean Luke Blackburn for an paid loan to buy a motorcycle how old are you missmi 19 years old your honor and you sir 20 who's this my mother who's this my father does your mother work yes she does what does she do she is an engineer who else lives in your house other than you and your mother I live by myself now actually when did you move out of your mother's house February 14th for February 14th who's living in your house uh my mother my stepdad my older brother my younger sister and two younger siblings male and female your mother work hard yeah she is working all the time she works hard to support her family yes she does how do you think your mother would like it if some guy took money from her um probably didn't wouldn't like it at all right now how much money did you take from 19-year-old Miss Schmidt um almost not an answer I accepted $1,000 how much money did you take $1,400 yes and how much money did you give to Miss Schmidt uh over the course of a few months 400 total what did you give her the $400 for uh cuz she was having financial problems was that before or after she gave you $1,400 it was after so you took money from her $1,400 and that caused her to have financial problems so you gave her $400 back not exactly you see well explain it to me all right you see I took the money as a gift I didn't ask you to describe what you took it as I asked you why you gave $400 back your mother understands where I'm going don't you um more of a obligation uh as a gift like her gift was to me you know I'm going to do you a favor Mr Blackburn I'm going to let you confer with your mother for a second go over there and confer with your mother before you sound any more ridic ulous over this is what I knew was going to happen she's not giving me the opportunity to explain explain to her that you initially thought it wasn't sh and you didn't tell me about it I would be veryy and always comes with and you and your inexperience did not know that [Music] go all right um well I accepted the money as a gift because I well we were went on a date okay and the only way for us to see each other was with me having a transportation to come see her and her wanting me to come see her she offered the money when I explained my situation what was your situation uh well you see my mother has been laid off from her normal job and she got just got a new job and she gave me one week notice that she was going to need her car back which I had been borrowing so you had been using her car to go and visit your friend as well as go to my job and and she gave me one week's notice that she needed her car back again yeah your mother needed her car back so you needed a car to go to work to go to work and see her is which is why she gave me the money so what did you buy I got a motorcycle where is it now at my apartment right now well good you can give it back to her okay do you understand what I'm saying to you you have to do the right thing I do you you're not supposed to start out at age 20 trying to do a fast step around your obligations if you didn't have any money to get a motorcycle and you needed some mode of transportation to go to work and your mother couldn't Advance you the money to go to work you had already borrowed some money from your mother is that right um a is not an answer had you already borrowed money from your mother I owed her the money before I knew that I would have to get myself a vehicle how much it was a few hundred what did you take the money from your mother for I can't recall did she expect it back from you yes she did did you pay her back yes with whose money with her money whose money Jessica's money as an offer to help me out so you paid back your mother the engineer by taking money from somebody younger than you are to pay off your obligations and to buy yourself a motorcycle does that sound reasonable to you I never asked for the money does that sound reason I don't care whether you ask for it does it sound reasonable to you yes that is what happened well there's something wrong with you did he give you back $400 yes your honor your honor what uh plus an additional 250 that I had a money order for is that correct yes so he owes you now 750 that's correct you want his motorcycle or you want the 750 I'd rather have the 750 done judgment for the plaintiff that's all parties are excused you may step out I never asked for the money it was more of a gift although I do feel guilty about it I guess I felt for him she just offered the money I did offer him the money but there was a thing where he would pay me back I uh got a message on Facebook from her mother stating how could I let Jean Luke do such a thing as to take money from her daughter for a while I didn't tell her had no idea she wasn't too happy about it what were you thinking I know how my daughter is she's always caring about everybody else instead of taking care of her own stuff I knew without transportation he wouldn't get that school and for me school is a big big thing she felt for him and which I understand it does happen if you take money as a gift there are always strings attached her in trouble she just got on my case a lot if you're borrowing money you just don't do it it's a life lesson for her not let anybody sucker me into giving money don't do it don't ever ever ever do it it SS relationships just kind of hold back on the feelings and be like I'm sorry but there's really nothing I can do to help you regardless if I have the money or not I guess it's over and now the next case all parties in the matter of Barnes versus Espinosa step forward please 24-year-old Roxanne Barnes is suing her former roommate 24-year-old Sarah ES penosa for breaking their apartment lease Miss Barnes the defendant was a roommate of yours according to your complaint you signed a lease in August of 2010 how much was the rent $689 total and you were reach paying half of that rent your complaint alleges that she moved out and she owes you rent for the months that she wasn't there yes ma'am when did you move out Miss espanosa I moved out on the 23rd of March and you paid March's rent yes ma'am so you have April May June July in August 5 months that if you live there you would be responsible to pay 34450 is that correct yes now when you moved out in March what precipitated the move and when you gave notice to Miss Barnes that you were leaving I gave notice to Miss Barnes probably the day before I moved out and what did you tell her I gave her I tell me what you told her I'm sorry I told her I was going to be moving out and I'm going to be paying the next month's rent until she finds a roommate to move in and take my room I thought that would be a lot better than me finding someone to take the room I thought I'd pay the rent and give her the option to find someone that she wants to live with and and before the first of the month came for me to pay that rent she had already filed the lawsuit against [Music] me real cases real people Judge Judy 24-year-old roxan Barnes is suing her former roommate 24-year-old Sarah Espinosa for breaking their apartment lease yeah when did you file the lawsuit I filed the lawsuit on the 25th of March of March why the reason why is because she sent me a text message saying she had already found a place and she did mention that she would pay rent for April and I have the text message no no she said she would pay rent for April and she didn't pay it she didn't pay okay so that's $344.00 minimally for April now what efforts did you make to get a new roommate first off the reason why I filed so early was because I did not get a response from Sarah from the 20th until it's irrelevant she owes you minimally that and if you don't find a roommate are you staying in the apartment I've moved out when did you move out on the 15th of April where did you move to I'm staying with a friend what amounts of money did you pay to the landlord in April in April I paid my half of the rent which is 3.45 and and then because her half wasn't paid I ended up paying her 345 plus late fees I'd like to see that you paid her half and her half with the L fees were $455 correct yes ma'am and this is your rent now what are the fees do you claim you PID to the land Lord the fees that are due are a rent concession chargeback because we moved in with a rent concession of $689 do they have a judgment against you no have you been contacted by their attorney no so so far she owes you $455 where do you work um I work at a coffee house you work at what coffee house it's called spider house and how long have you worked there I've worked there for one year you worked there as um bartender Barista and you paid a salary plus tips mhm so the landlord can enter a judgment and take whatever you owe right from your salary correct spiderhouse you know where that is yes great now when the landlord comes against you for additional fees for moving out cuz she moved out she couldn't do the whole thing herself the landlord will probably take care from you and are you employed no I'm a full-time student it may just be that the landlord's going to come against you for that whole amount of money your honor I made a phone call to the apartment complex and I made arrangements with them to pay off what I owed them for my half of the rest of the lease that's great so you have no problems so all you owe her is $455 that she paid in April how easy this is wonderful charge for the plain to from the amount to $455 thank you very much are excused step out we went to high school together we became really good friends when I first moved to Austin and then our relationship kind of fell when we started living together we were friends but she's a flake relationship went really weird really bad attitude dudes back and forth left and right she has no sense of communication and that's why we're here I've been locked out of my apartment a few times probably 10 or 12 times that's a lie she wasn't locked out of the place 12 times and it wasn't malicious intent I worked late and I come home don't really live in the nicest neighborhood and I'm locked out it's a nice surprise things happen you stroll in at 5: in the morning things happen I thought you know maybe it was unintentional she didn't mean to do it but after like the fifth time I started to kind of understand it's just a simple matter of the lock getting stuck it is what it is and it's sad to see a friendship loss but that's what happened oh I don't think there's a friendship there anymore at all there was no friendship she used me for a place to stay and when she found another opportunity she skipped out I think it's called don't live with friends never move in with flakes ever again 21-year-old granison Doo is suing his former boss Christine Lynch for wrongfully terminating him after he was hurt on the job order all right [Music] guys this case number 79 on calendar in the matter of D do versus Lynch thank you you're welcome judge PES have been swor in you may be seated sir have seat please how old are you sir 21 who do you live with I just moved back in with my mother where had you been living I was living me and my girlfriend uh at the time stayed uh in Rancher Cordova mhm did she graduate from high school GD when did you leave high school well in the past I was um in not Hall and stuff so um I went to an adult school to get U my GED but where did you work 2 years ago uh I believe I was unemployed two years ago where did you work three years ago uh as a pizza delivery for whom um I cannot remember the the name how long did you work there I worked there for about um month or two now I want you to listen to my question very very carefully cuz I check on all my facts okay since you've been 18 years old now you're now 21 you've been living on your own yes uh yes 18 you weren't incarcerated when you were 18 uh I did uh do 30 days when you were 18 not when I was 18 but after after I turned 18 I did for what um for a DUI that wasn't your first DUI accident then if you did 30 days well I wasn't paying revenue recovery so it was for outstanding warrant that I did 30 days for the DU I want to know since you're 18 I want to know your work history I have a month as a pizza delivery boy that you can't remember the name of the place basically I basically I did a lot of work with my dad uh he has a landscaping company but that was under the table and I worked for him a lot when you say that was under the table you mean you were paid in cash and didn't pay any taxes yes I and so how long did you work for your father uh was off and on but I want to know where you worked to support yourself since you're 18 well basically I was looking for work at the time now how long did you work for Mrs Lynch for about two months two months so in your whole life time I have a work history of at best if I believe you with for the pizza business three months two months pay careful attention to me two two months for Mrs Lynch cuz actually I don't believe anything else yeah this is what your lawsuit is you went to work for Mrs Lynch she has apartment complex you were hired as a handyman according to your complaint during that two-month period you hurt your back so you applied for workman's compensation you following this sure you got it got it applied for workman's compensation and because Mrs Lynch didn't report the requisite number of hours you weren't given all you should have gotten from workman's compensation you were only given how much a month just tell me how much a month were you given from workman's comp uh a week 380 $380 a week you got from workman's compensation is that right yes and for how long did you get $380 a week for about 3 4 months is it 4 months that you got $380 Mr duu um I can find out the exact dates yeah good let's find out the exact date want to find out how much we have to pay you for somebody who worked two months in their entire life how long we paid you for workman's compensation for an alleged injury that you got within the first 8 weeks of your LIF time employment the injury was March 3rd of 2010 and uh I received them all the way up to 1029 2010 well the injury wasn't mared March the 3D well it was a week before that but that's when uh I reported it to it was a week before that according to you was in February yes right so you started to get just a second so you started to get workman's compensation $380 March April May June July August September and October sorry um every two weeks that I would receive 380 biweekly yes March April May June July August September and October for eight months yes so let me figure out how you did this this is really lots of smoke and mirrors and your entire life you worked two months and we paid you for 8 months well I worked a lot since uh well with my dad I don't want to hear about you as far as the US government is concerned you didn't work for your dad at all yes and so what you're suing Miss Lynch for is $5,000 for wrongful termination so far am I correct and because you want more money from her because because she only said you were a part-time employee you didn't get as much money as you should have from workman's compensation that's your lawsuit right no well do you tell me what your lawsuit is you want me to read what you wrote 1,000 for uh lost wages from workman comp that I said both I want the defendant to pay me the difference owed on my workman's comp claim 1762 and punitive damages for wrongful termination $3,238 yes you got three minutes of my time because you understand where I'm going with you yes basically basically uh after I was working for them uh we agreed on $10 an hour at $40 firm so that was a pretty good offer I took that up uh after working for her um I was hurt on their job lifting appliances refrigerators Furniture up and downstairs I was hurt so I didn't go to workman's comp I never been hurt on the job before you never worked before you know mean you never went to workman's comp before you never worked before you worked for your father under the table you worked for HFF for two months period yeah so I I went to my doctor cuz I have Kaiser medical insurance myself I went to who pay for your medical insurance who pays for it how did you get Kaiser insurance I've my mom works for the state so I've been under her insurance great what in America keep going keep going I want to tell you the sympathy is pouring out for you so I went to my doctor to um basically get treatment for the back injury that I had uh I had a bulge disc in my lower back a what a bulge disc is basically pushing on a nerve through my left and how did you fix that you can't just fix it sure you could fix it had one of those myself go in and you can suck it right out yeah snipping it and stuff like that well you can do a whole bunch of things to it you look pretty healthy to me yeah it's uh look like you work out regularly I only lost 20% you look like you work out regularly sir and I can tell you know when you're working out got a husband who works out so I can tell when you are gym oriented you know what I'm talking about yeah keep going the only part I can actually work out is my basically triceps oh I could tell what you're working out sir and all this happened in March of 2010 how much did you work out between March and October I only go probably maybe two times a week listen to me I'm going to help you out here I'm going to be helpful to you what's your first name pay attention get a job I want you to explore ways you are a nicelooking seemingly intelligent young man man who has had so far at age 21 watch me carefully don't look at bird he's doing a crossword puzzle look at me who has had at best a spotty history who has done nothing to secure a future so you have two Alternatives either you can figure out how to be a permanent freeloader which is what you've done now I've had a job for the last8 months oh that's wonderful so that's 8 months and two month months that you work for her that's 10 months all together that's fabulous where did you start to work uh doing sales in marketing windshield repair for whom uh I began with chipio windshield repair fulltime or part-time fulltime 60 hours a week do you get commission straight commission so you don't get a salary yeah great get a job where you can make a salary it may not give you gym time but you also won't spend a lot of your time trying to negotiate how to get something for nothing Judge Judy continues in a moment how am I supposed to know whether you hurt yourself shlepping a refrigerator or working out with 40 lb weights how am I supposed to tell that since you're a hustler you're clearly a hustler and later today told me he was fully licensed insured I mean even I and I used to date the Stone Age when Fred Flintstone was old but I don't ever remember asking the date do you have a driver's license and are you insured granison Doo claims he was hurt on the job while working as a maintenance man at Christine Lynch's apartment complex granison says he was subsequently terminated now you got your workman's compensation they paid you for 10 months for probably a non-existent injury I have proof of the injury show me your x-rays I have all the doctor reports from the CAT scans from the doctor yeah and let me ask you this question sir how am I supposed to know since you didn't go to the doctor for a week after you were allegedly injured schlepping a refrigerator up the stairs how am I supposed to know whether you hurt yourself SCH shlepping a refrigerator or working out with 40 lb weights how am I supposed to tell that since you're a hustler you're clearly a hustler you work for your father for cash under the table it's the only job that you tell me you ever had before you had hers I didn't work out at the time when I was working for her 40 hours a week I I did 40 hours a week so that was pretty tiring lifting things like that so I didn't work out at that time you only worked eight weeks eight weeks in your whole life and then you were on the cuff for 10 months you got paid for doing nothing I couldn't return to any type of regular work either get a job make a future you got everything that you're going to get from her do you understand yes Goodbye part you you may step out I think Judge Judy made the right decision no I just have to live with it he shouldn't have sued me he got paid by workers's comp and looked for getting a workman's comp lawyer at one point he called me and told me if I pretend that to workers comp that he worked more than he did so I can go through that room he get paid more and it wouldn't cost me anything just have to take other actions and I think the right decision was made today and now the next case all parties in the M of Hackman versus MC Brom step forward Randy Hackman is suing his former neighbor Cory McBroom for the unpaid balance of a custombuilt kitchen island Mr Hackman you sold Mr McBroom a custom Center Island for a kitchen yes ma'am you sold it because you were moving out of your apartment yes when was that September 2013 and Mr broom was moving into your apartment or an apartment in the building an apartment in the building ma'am had you known him before for September of 2013 for a bit yes we how well the apartment we lived in I was worked for the property manager for that building he was also putting his Salon into the commercial spaces that were in there so we had worked together building out his new salon space in that building is that what you are yes so you knew him from business a bit yes okay so I want to know if you're a contractor and you helped him build out his Salon how were you compensated I was under the employee of a different company the property management company at that time so was the property management who built his Salon yes ma'am okay great now you sold him this Center Island for how much $2,000 so far that is correct Mr M Brom no well you say it's correct you said it's correct that you purchased to send to Ryland for $2,000 that's what you said so what's incorrect about it it's incorrect because the amount was never solid we we we talked about an amount between $1,800 to his retail value once the product was finished around I believe $2500 around $2,500 upon it being finished I purchased the kitchen island for $2,000 that's the first line of your answer want to see it no I know I I believe that show it to him thank you mhm read the first line of your sworn answer I purchased a kitchen island for $2,000 that's what it said M so you want to tell me where you were mistaken you were mistaken in sworn answer or you mistaken in your sworn testimony there was there there needed to be a number put down and so there was never a number that was no I'm just asking you I asked you a question stop double talking me I know that you where do you come from Missouri yes ma'am you have you ever been to California before I have you have and you liked it here it's good and you thought it would be a nice thing to come back again and to do this little program suppose you supposed good okay so now there's a price that comes with that for your free trip in your hotel room right you know what that price is being honest yes because if you're come in here to play with me I'll put you back on the plane to Missouri absolutely do you understand yes ma'am Judge Judy continues in a moment so at that point there was not a barter agreement in place the barter agreement happened there was never a a set time when payments were necessarily do or made you're going to step all over your tie and going to get very dry in the mountain be man says his former neighbor Cory McBroom owes for the balance of a custombuilt kitchen island so my question is were you lying or not being honest when you testified a moment ago or when you signed the sworn answer $2,000 better now how much did you pay him in dollars how much did you pay him in the currency of the United States of America in currency cash deposits uh initially when he moved the island how much $300 and after that PayPal electronic transfer from credit and debit was uh $420 anything else haircut Services no no no in cash not P not B cash money that is all the cash so $720 is what you paid on the $2,000 item and what your defense is that Mr Hackman agreed to take the rest out in barter for haircuts because that's what you do for a living haircuts okay Mr sh just a second Mr Hackman doesn't look like he ever cuts his hair are you talking about Mr Hackman's haircuts I could cut Mr Hackman's hair whose haircut his his his and his multiple girlfriends okay great fine so and I assume you kept The Ledger on that I have a ledger of his haircuts just a second the answer is either yes or no so you kept The Ledger of his yes okay how many haircuts did you give Mr Hackman I have documented nine and how many do you have documented for his girlfriend friends I don't have his documented I did bring a witness that did the hair how many does the witness have documented from an appointment book from a ledger how many n documented then I'm not interested so we have nine haircuts mhm and what you're saying is that those nine haircuts equal $1,240 uh the haircuts I have uh nine haircuts uh documented from him equals $540 and then I have the PayPal 375 cash deposit just a second you just told $420 and 300 that's $720 for his haircuts no you said that you paid him in cash $720 from PayPal accounts and the cash deposit which was 720 he's not suing for 2,000 he's suing for 1240 MH what you're suggesting is the 9 haircuts that you did for him you did and the equivalent of that was the remainder of what you owed him was $1,240 yes okay now tell me when you had the discussion with Mr Hackman that transferred the issue of the money that was owed Cash Money US currency to barter tell me about that that happen you started paying him back and when was the last day you gave him a cash payment or a Paypal payment uh it would have been the end of last year less than six months what's the date you have it you must have it down I do 8:15 2015 okay was when you gave him just a second when you gave him money yes so at that point in a August of 2015 yes there was not a barter agreement in place the barter agreement happened uh ever once in a while whenever he needed a haircut and then what we would do is there was never a a set time when payments were necessarily due or made you're going to step all over your tie and going to get very dry in the mouth Yes judge continues in a moment well you only have five here I should have nine men's haircut in style yes 1 2 3 4 5 nothing Hackman says his former neighbor Corey McBroom owes for the balance of a custombuilt kitchen island now are you telling me that prior to August of 2015 you had an agreement with Mr Hackman that you were going to deduct what you owed him from haircuts that you gave him yes tell me when that conversation took place earlier that year and earlier in 201 2015 and initially when when when we first agreed that I was uh purchasing the island as well is that correct sir it was earlier than that but his numbers are way incorrect your onor you had however discussed with him bter yes and how much were you attributing to each of your nine haircuts well there was only six haircuts your honor and one additional for a girlfriend of at the time each haircut he charges a retail value of $35 forre and I took $60 the full full monthly payment off for each haircut so he was making Boon off of that as well okay so first thing I'd like to see is The Ledger register of nine haircuts is this the book that you use sir or is this something that you prepared for me today that that is the book that I did use at the time and so what I can do is pull up a specific client's list of appointments well you only have five here I should have nine 1 2 3 4 5 five men's haircutting style yes 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 uh-huh nothing H so if I were to call your cell on now is it open or closed uh it's by appointment so it is available upon request what does that mean by appointment only so there's no standing there's no receptionist necessarily all my clients uh directly contact me is there a physical space in your salon you have a physical space how many people work in your salon three your one your two who's the third uh his name is Grant he's another stylist that we work with and he doesn't come into the salon he does so he may be there now uh I don't believe he might he might okay so if I had somebody call and say I want a men's haircut and style how much would I be advis that that would be uh for just a men's haircut uh 45 that's for a short haircut though your honor Mr Hackman he likes his hair long so I charge him a women's price at 60 okay Judge Judy continues in a moment and follow us on Twitter he paid him 720 and according to both of you you agreed to B haircuts he says he had seven you have five he says it was $35 you say it was 45 from a man but I charge him for a woman's haircut I'm giving you credit for $45 for the five haircuts that you can prove which is $225 $225 that's five that's four that's 9 945 I never received 700 or whatever he's saying in cash from him well you're not suing him sir for 2,000 you're suing him for 1240 but if you're adding that up to get to the 1240 and he's got extraneous numbers in there that's going to change that amount you what I show Jud judgment for the FL for the amount of $1,055 we're done thank you Miss Step Up Judge Judy continues in a moment and on the next Judge Judy too long it was 2 years it was supposed to be a quick 6 8 months it was a very casual thing it was a bar Island I was doing it as a favor really and then online I saw that he and his boyfriend took a trip to French Polynesia and uh to help him out uh I have the bar he's got some extra dough good for him he was building out a new salon if he can afford those he can afford to pay me $1,200 and you know hopefully we can move past it I gave it the whole shebang so that's that everything's got to be written from now on and documented numerous times rain's a good guy I don't want to hold anything against him on it um there was a this case was always up in it was very casual and so this is what happens you may be seated gentleman have a seat huh you were parked in a parking lot and Miss Hansen pulled in her car into the parking lot and an altercation ensued between the two of you it is your claim that the defendant assaulted you during the course of that fortunately we have I see the screen up so that there must have been surveillance yes am I correct that you were sitting in your car when she pulled up yes and a reading of the complaint and answer suggests that she pulled up close to your car correct and when she got out of her car her car door hit your car yes how many times once initially when she first opened the door and then once she proceeded to get out of the car the car door is rubbing on my car now because she's squeezing to get out and once she got out that's when I proceeded to get out and I noticed that okay you got out of the car to assess whatever damage there was and when I noticed that the dent wasn't that bad it was just like a smudge so I asked her no what did you not asked her okay what did you say why didn't you back your car up reverse and move a little to the right cuz there was plenty of more room is that what you said to her and I I want you to tell me I mean you know I would have been very annoyed yeah if somebody banged into my car when they weren't paying attention to what they were doing and just being selfish by pulling up too close to your car and trying to get out of the car you understand yes ma'am good so I wouldn't have said you know you really could have moved a little over to the left it's a good thing it wasn't my husband it would have been a lot worse right but it might have started out with something like what are you an idiot why didn't you pull closer to the other side what are you trying to squeeze out of this 6 in space for so now I want you to tell me what you said to her when you walked out once I initially noticed that it was so bad it wasn't so bad it still was annoying that you still tried to squeeze out so I asked why didn't you just reverse the car and move a little to the right is that what you the that's exactly what I said good and what did she say to you instantly the response was you don't see the line indicating since she wasn't over the line that she wasn't over the line she was just close to it but this much no I got it I been there I live in Florida I got the whole drill so you know I told her you know you don't have to talk to me like that I asked you a simple question and she started to proceed to walk up to me and told me I don't don't talk to me her fingers were this close to my face I kindly pushed her hand down and told her you need to back up you know you don't know me like that you need to calm down we exchanged a few words I tried to walk past her she proceeded to put her hand CH on my throat to choke me and that's when I just had to let loose okay and that video is going to show me what happened yes and I have the video right here good now I'm going to start to with Miss hansome yes' so did you park too close to her car it was very tight space in did you park too close to her car no okay when you got out of your car did your car door hit her car it touched it then that was wrong that it was too close to her car now a small person may have been able to get out but you're not a small person correct so when you got out of the car and opened the door it hit her property yes that was the wrong thing to happen yes ma'am you did it anyway now you got out and she got out of her car mhm she I said to you don't you know how to park a car okay and you said to her I turned to her and I said listen and I started to walk away towards the back of the cars because it was clear that she was still getting out of her car and running towards me and I just wanted to get away so I walked behind my car and she was continuing to insult me because of my weight and at that point I made a motion with my hand like and walked away and then she got my attention and I did a 180 and turned back towards her and I didn't want to deal with her so I was trying to get away and then she reached out and just started putting her hands on my neck and she was strangling me and you'll see in the video If it hasn't been altered that I was doing this I'd like to see the video because I just froze bird you know I'm going to get down off the bench and I want you to start photos of my bruises and I also was knocked twice in the face to the ground on my flat on my back listen I have eyes yes ma'am you do we may have to play this a couple of times okay which car is the I'm the white car okay oh start that again go back I want to see that again well what I see is the the person in white that's you right yes ma'am hit her first no ma'am she actually was strangling me that's not what I see sorry sorry I don't see her strangling you on the side I don't see her strangling you on the side the video I mean that is the angle of the camera that doesn't show it but I can tell you that her fingers are long and slim and very soft and cold because they were around my neck not what I saw I understand that I I understand but I know what I experienced I know what you experienced and the police also viewed this is that correct I believe so yes yes and after the police viewed this they took you into custody yes ma'am not her yes ma'am listen do we have anything else I have a police report I'd like to see it I have the police report I have medical records I'm not interested in your medical records we're not there what's the difference if there a medical records if you had medical records if it was your fault she broke my phone she knocked it out of my hand just a second just a second we'll get to the phone in a second because that's maybe the only thing she knocked it out of my hands I don't care well I did listen to me you hit her first no ma'am I did not well that's what that shows and that's why the police arrested respectfully disagree you can respectfully disagree all you like that's why the police arrested you and that's what I saw Hansen was found to be the aggressor by several witnesses and Davenport and that now why did you take her phone uh she was walking up to me telling me I need to be still she wants pictures of me I didn't give anyone permission to take pictures of me I asked her to stop she kept running up on me after the altercation so you know feelings are already like all over the place she would not stop walking up to me in my space so I took the phone out of her hand okay you can't do that well I ended up giving it back while I was on the phone making well you didn't give it back no I why put it on the hood of the car on the hood of what car on the hood of her car cuz after she started chasing around the parking lot while I was on the phone with the police they told me give her her phone back you cannot do that so I put it on the hood of her car ma'am the battery and the back of the phone were in separate places all over the parking lot so I did have to hobble over and grab these different parts to put them back together I also should point out don't point at anything I'm reading the police report I use a cane she didn't need that cane when you weren't using a cane there you're correct there are times when I do not use it I'm not interested actually I can appreciate that I'm not interested and I told you once before I'm reading the police report okay here's my copy if you'd like it of what my copy of the police report I'd like to see your copy of the police report please thank you I also have the I want to know why the statements of the Witnesses are deleted on both actually because the police officer said based upon the statements of the two witnesses and the security tape they arrested you it's just unusual to me that they would delete the witness's statements when I had picked it up they said that if it's not my own statement they can't show okay anyone else's last thing the police officer said was other than the witness's statements Hansen stated she did not approach Davenport and that Davenport went to her when I clarified with her in the video it looks like she approached Davenport she changed her story and was already walking to that way and didn't want to walk around at placed Tansen under arrest and plac dur in the Reel of the car the case is dismissed we're done thank you thank you why excuse you they step out I was actually really embarrassed I was upset that I had to fight an elderly lady while I saw that there was a confrontation obviously I was upset that she attacked me for no reason I didn't see her throw the first punch I'm happy it's over they said there were several witnesses cuz I honestly don't understand why this lady is still pushing the issue that isn't what I saw when she calls all this made him and sir have a seat Miss Thompson you and Mr Mill were a couple and you have a three-year-old child together yes we do I gather from the complaint and answer that you filed that you've tried to maintain somewhat of a civilized relationship with each other or even going to certain functions together with your daughter this case is about an incident that occurred at one of those events yes ma'am where it is your claim that Mr mcal vandalized Jak car during an argument yes his story is quite different I'm sure he will relate the story to me as he sees it through his lens when did you two stop living together uh we were never living together we were just co-parent we were just sleep over each other's houses but we wouldn't live together when was the last time that happened a while ago it was months months ago give me um give don't look at him don't look at him give me a month that the last time either you stayed over at his house or he stayed over at your house in a co-parenting event you want to tell me Mr mcll she doesn't remember you want to tell me I think it was around April April how do you remember it was April my birthday so after April you did not have any co-parenting sleepovers no but you saw each other on your birthday that's very interesting to me Mr Mill that that's a very interesting thing that you would select to have a sleepover with Miss Thompson on your birthday if you're no longer together I'm not saying we slept together I'm just yeah that's around the time my birthday not the last time we slept with each other yet on your birthday yeah around my birthday not exactly my birthday see okay you have a little girl is that right Mr MCO yes ma'am I want you to tell me when the last time you saw her the day of the incident what was that date Memorial Day I believe why don't you tell me your version of what happened well we had the little picnic well party at the park for Memorial Day barbecue and who went me galani my daughter my mom her brother my family uh had a nice little barbecue when it was time to go she rode with her brother I drove her car and I had my daughter me and my daughter rode together her and her brother rode together okay so you were driving her car and your daughter was in the car that you were driving yes ma'am okay when you finished the barbecue where were you going uh we headed back to my house and was she going to follow you uh she didn't follow me but she knew where we were going cuz we had we did the picnic in St Louis I stay in Illinois what was the plan after the picnic if you were going back to your house with your daughter really wasn't no plan I was going to get we alternate weeks I keep my daughter for a week she had her for a week so you were going to keep her for the week yes ma'am well then why were you driving her car oh she was coming back her and her brother they because the barbecue yeah I just drove her car because she I guess she didn't want to around with me I drove her over there me her and my daughter rode together over there but her brother came later on during the party and she rode back with him so you all came together to the Memorial Day party mhm from whose house I believe it was my house so all three of you were in your house on Memorial Day yes ma'am and what time that had Miss Thompson gotten to your house on that date on Memorial Day or was she there the night before no uh she got there that I want to say don't look over there over here I'm sorry uh I want to say it was like an hour or two before we went out to the Memorial Day barbecue okay so she came to pick you up yes ma'am do you have a car no ma'am and was it the intention that you keep your daughter that week and her car no ma'am I don't keep her car no just her just your daughter daughter okay pick it up from there okay so we had to barbecue you had the barbecue you were going home now you're your house the daughter is in your car she's driving you're meeting up at your house with her brother yeah um when they pulled up I had my daughter was still sitting in had nobody else made it back to my house yet so me and my daughter were sitting in her car and I had my daughter watching a TV on my little tablet when they pulled up she said I had an attitude about something like she came me with attitude that's how the whole situation started we argued a little bit like I said it was my turn to get my daughter well she didn't bring my daughter like the diapers the clothes and stuff was none of that was there you know what I'm saying so I asked her could she go get it she didn't want to okay so she didn't bring it to your house at all no you mean clothes clothes diapers all that and that was my issue I was like well I don't have none of this here so I can't keep her tonight either you can go home and get it or you can just bring her tomorrow with the stuff that was a problem what was the problem either leaving her without for stuff are going I guess she didn't want to take my daughter back with her like cuz this my week I guess she was thought I was trying to push my daughter off on her for the week not not the case at all never have a problem I kept my daughter anyway that night you know anyway we argue I put my daughter back in the car cuz like I said didn't have the supplies for her just a minute so you had taken your daughter out of the car yeah I when when they pulled up I was taking my daugh I thought we were going to I didn't know we were going to argue I thought we going to go in the house you know what I'm saying everybody have a little good time so you took your daughter out of the car and you were holding her in your arms yeah and then you had this discussion about where her clothes yeah and she said I don't have the clothes so then you said you put your daughter back in her car yes well that was the suggestion then that she was going to be going home with her mother yes ma'am okay and then what happened uh that transferred into a whole little problem because like I said she thought I was trying to push her off on her or something we arguing while my daughter's in the car I noticed that I had left my tablet in the back seat that my daughter was watching that's when I tried to go back around to the door to get my tablet she locked the doors the back windows were down from where I was driving I started reaching through the back window to try to get my tablet she rolled up the window on me and started bagging back with me hanging out the window got up she stopped I got out uh never got my tablet and meanwhile this is all happening in front of the threey old yes did you ever get your tablet I winded up getting it either the next day or the day after that because I told her I called the police on her okay so she drove off with the tablet yes ma'am go okay so he his family invited us to a barbecue we're bar before we even left to the barbecue the reason why he drove our daughter home cuz he had an attitude I don't know why he had an attitude but you can just since he did so that's why I rode with my brother back to his house to his mother's house to continue the barbecue cuz the the food wasn't done yet cuz we got kicked out the park cuz the Park closed at 10:00 so we got get to his house me and my brother pulled up first so they pulled up and we all got out the car he came back up front and I asked my daughter asking for juice and I said do you she was asking do they have any juice in the house and he ignored me I asked him again and he said no we don't so I'm like okay well I'll leave the baby with you I'll go up to the grocery store real quick get her some juice so she can have some for her food he was sitting there on the porch smoking a cigarette and out of Lily out of nowhere I'm not doing this anymore I'm like okay like he just start going off start calling me out my name not doing what anymore I don't I don't know he just he literally out the blue he was sitting there smoking his cigarette you can tell on his face he was thinking about something so like I said he just out of nowhere said I can't do this anymore it started going off like okay whatever so I went to my car me and my car I'm trying to pull off he put his arm in my car and try to take the keys out the ignition so in event doing that did he say my iPad is in the car or my tablet no he didn't say just a second okay was it it was it it was so yeah I did find it cuz it was dark it was it was late it was about 10 11:00 when this happened so I didn't see the tablet so I guess he left the tablet in my car when he was driving I didn't take it from him but he was trying to take the keys on my ignition and he's sitting there just yelling at me saying just call me out of my name so when he was doing all that he locked the steering wheel so my brother was trying to tell him to move so he can fix the steering wheel so I can leave so in the event of him trying to like I'm trying to get out he keeps closing the thing like this to keep trying like keeps closing the door so I can't get out the car and my brother's telling him to move he wouldn't move so finally he went in the house my brother fixed the steering wheel and it was just in this in uh neutral so he fixed the steering wheel so I'm leaving the baby she's crying to stay with her dad so I'm like okay you can stay with your dad so I gave him the diaper bag no I didn't have clothes in there but I don't feel like I should take care of my house and his house is your daughter get your clothes for her house so I gave him the diaper bag with a couple diapers and some wipes in there I gave him that and I send the baby to her uncle to give to him so I can leave he came outside he pulled my gas tank back and tried to put a lit cigarette in there and so I luckily I backed up fast enough for him to like he jumped off and I drove away and so he called me a couple times I didn't answer the phone and he called my brother well my brother was still there my brother called me and all you hear him in the background screaming and yelling and going off stuff like that and my brother asked me you want me to do with the baby I'm like it's his week just leave her there he's with his her dad she's safe and just come home so can you tell me why we're here he damaged my car and I want him to fix it what did he damage on your car the gas tank he he scratched the paint on it and at one point time I wasn't even able to bend the T like put the gas cab back on my car but now you can't so show me a picture of the scratched gas tank do you work Mr MCO yes ma'am kind of work do you do uh I build Freez well the freezes to be outside of gas stations you Miss Thompson I uh work in retail do you have other than having this co-parenting arrangement do you have an arrangement for child support no we do not I'm currently working on that and trying to get a custody agreement for the two of us well there are a lot of chips on this car I suggest Mr mcco this is what you're going to do you're going to go into an auto body shop and you buy a little thing of white touchup paint when you finish touching up these little scratch on the gas tank is not you touch up the other scratch that's below it the other scratch that's below it in in this what I don't understand is don't look like really nice people that had a bad day and you've been doing this co-parenting for a while so there must be something nice about the way you still feel about each other otherwise you wouldn't have gone to the barbecue you wouldn't have taken the baby you clearly Miss Thompson is smart enough to know that if he has custody every other week you can have a life yeah yeah I listen I used to say that all the time why are you fighting him he's a nice enough guy you know you made a child with him he's interested he wants to be part of you know part of the baby that he made and it gives you an opportunity to have a life no he does like the only reason why we came up with that because he wasn't taking her at all so what how that started was I literally I dropped her off one day and left that's how that started well that's not so smart you see Judge Judy continues in a moment and later today how much were the sneakers that you bought 190 did you pay for his sneakers with a credit card yes are those the sneakers yes they are can I see them don't get any closer that's fine delone Thompson says her daughter's father Carl Mill vandalized her car during an argument now that's not so smart you don't want to leave a baby with someone with someone who doesn't want to keep her that's what I'm suggesting to you you can't force somebody to be a parent if they don't want to be a parent I would rethink that you absolutely entitled to a life of your own but if Mr mccat skill is immature enough so that he feels as if this is somehow some kind of a burden for him as he said you would trying to push her off on me for the week then I would make certain that a court gets involved in seeing how much and when your daughter spends time with each of her parents anyway I don't see any major damage to the caring I'm awarding you 50 bucks go buy some white paint we're done why excuse and me step out that's my daughter's mom you know what I'm saying especially with my daughter in the car don't want to talk I didn't try to blow her I I wouldn't hurt her at all don't want to talk man I hope we can get back to the agreement like I said I haven't seen my daughter in like a month now you don't want to talk I love my daughter she try to make it seem like I don't want her I love my baby and you sit that you are only here because you own the car yes you weren't there during the course of the incident no but this is what you say in your complaint what you say your complaint is that this young man is responsible for your car being crashed yes good now you can have a seat this is your son he had your car that day correct correct tell me your first name Andre Johnson Andre Johnson your first name Mario how old are you Mario 18 how old are you 19 you both go to the same school yes how long have you been going to the same school I believe 4 years Mario have you ever been to Andre's house only once when I don't remember the date recently no a while ago yeah you could say that were you there as an invited guest did go to a party it was an invited guest do you remember that no you don't remember no did you ever have a party at your house no ma'am was he ever at your house no were you ever at his house yes when was the last time you were at Mario's house it' be a while ago ma'am how long ago a month two months like maybe like a few months like 5 months what were you doing at his house just hanging out and when you say hanging out you were hanging out with who else just him you're honor just Mario yes you play video games did you uh just watch sports and TV how many times have you been to his house all together in the last two years more than five or less than five around like 5 just a moment five and those times hanging around just tag you around watching TV yes no how come Mario never came to your house he was uninvited why because of the car you mean because of this accident yes I want to know before that I mean you telling me that you were at Mario's house after the accident no is he at your house after the accident I believe he was I wasn't there present but my father told me he was there after this accident was the plain there at your house uh he just um he just show up with the mom to complain about the accident oh that's the time he came so I'm going to ask you again you used to hang out in Mario's house why was he never a guest in your house cuz my mom she just had she didn't trust him that's why your mom didn't like him yes okay did your mom know that you were going to his house yes cuz just a second did you tell your mom that you were at his house hanging out yes cuz even though she didn't trust him I did I felt like Andre yes ma'am I know you think you're going to try to get the story straight in your head yes but you're not going to be able to cuz I've been doing this questioning too long do you understand yes yeah the reason that Mario didn't come out and hang out in your house is because your mother didn't like him but you liked him yes so you would go to his house yes did you tell your mother that you were going to his house is my question if your mother didn't like him as a friend for you that were my judgment I would say well I'd rather have him in my house so I could sort of know what was going on rather than my son going to his house so I'm going to ask you again don't try to figure out where I'm going did you tell your mother that you were hanging out in Mario's house yes you did yes at the time you were doing it yes and what did your mother say be careful be careful okay but you had nothing to be careful about because you kept going yeah cuz we have violence on our streets we what we have like violence like not a lot but around where we live so that's not what I'm asking you are you weren't at his house because of violence you were at his house cuz you liked him yes did you also like him in school yes got it I'm looking at you because the first line in your complaint is Mario went to high school with my son Andre he has been bullying my son for the past year and my son is completely intimidated by him that's the way we start out but that's really not true your son liked him he was his friend and he used to go and hang out at his house and whether he told you or not I don't know but it's not true because he wouldn't go he wouldn't go to his house to hang out if he was intimidating him will you understand each other Andre yes now you were driving your mother's car on the day of the accident I want you to tell me what happened and be careful okay it was on Thursday at 8:30 Thursday at 8:30 ma'am in the morning yes and I was hanging with my friends which friends um Aaron Sergio Julie jaier and Mario came up to me that's cuz when I got my car Mario came up to you and he asked me for my car threateningly no he didn't no he didn't he was why would he threaten you he was your friend cuz that's why I didn't have my car ma'am that's why when I got my car that's when things changed when did you get your car I got it January last year January yes that's a long time ago you've been to his house after you got your car according to you according to what you said to me before last you've been to his house since you got your car sorry ma'am I misspoke not last year this year You' still been to his house since you got the car according to what you told me before you said a few months ago January's a long time ago I misspoke I meant this year um I know this year okay okay so you with your friends and and Mario came up to me and like said give me your car keys like threateningly and and I gave them to him and he took your car alone no there are two other people where was Javier was he in the car no what about Sergio was Sergio in the car no they have their own cars no did they get in the car so who got in the car with Mario a girl named Julie and I don't know the other girls name your two girls yes not you no go and they took off and it was around 8:39 that Sergio ran up to me and said they got in an accident and my friend Rodrigo drove me to the to the scene of the accident and I saw the damage and Daren and go your honor he's lying it was Thursday March 30th or 24th I'm sorry and ulisa wanted to go get donuts who wanted to go get donuts yulisa and I never asked them for the keys because he was the one that was driving to the donut shop I was the passenger she was the one in the back seat we drove over there we got the donuts we're coming back to school Andre is driving his brakes don't work he hits another car he's panicking he tells me me that um to switch seats with him he wanted me to switch seats with him because he didn't want to get his car insurance he he didn't want to get anything with his mother he didn't want to um I want to see a police report I have a ticket right here stating that I didn't have a license cuz I took the fault for him and it was a $400 ticket unless I got my license which I did and Le in less than a month and I paid $25 that's very nice you told the police you were driving you're responsible for the accident then you're responsible for the accident Mario I actually don't believe a whole bunch of what he's saying to me and I actually don't know who was driving but if you told the police if you swore to the police that you were driving you're responsible you understand that you lie you got to tell it all the way through and you paid a ticket and you paid a fine and you got your license and your son is a fiber don't believe everything he tells you now I want to see the police report Judge Judy continues in a moment and later today what a rodent disposal fees is the rat that we finally caught she was claiming that it wasn't hers but it was hers just a not in it not in it can I see yes photographs 19-year-old Andre Johnson says his former classmate Mario Ramirez drove his car without permission and wreck it yeah I want to see the police report there was no police report there's a collision report that clearly states that Mario was the driver I also have pictures of the car if you want to see it and a letter from my insurance company saying that they denied it because Mario was not an insured driver on my Cario gave my insurance Mario didn't have a license right okay now what kind of car was this the 2001 Toyota Camry where is the car now it's stalled in my garage it's what it's in my driveway I'm sorry it's stalled it doesn't work I'd like to see a photo of [Applause] it I'd like to see the estimate for the damage compare it's right here just for my own information would you take a look and see the value of a 2001 Toyota Camry an Le your honor on May the 9th I called Mario and I spoke to Mario and he admitted to me that he did it and that he told me he would pay for it as soon as he got money 1525 H 1525 for the plti for the amount of $1,525 thank you I excuse me step out I don't know how she did that but I was not driving at all Mario did admit to me that he took the car Andre was the one that was driving his brakes didn't work and and that you know he wrecked it his brakes didn't work and he hit the other car um he's lying didn't lie telling the truth choose your friends wisely yes cuz I took the fault for him cuz you could say someone's your friend next thing know they total your car just tell the truth have a seat please M Story the defendant was your boyfriend for a period of time you lived with him in his house yes from when to when from uh June 8th of 2015 to the first week in December when I moved out so about 6 months prior to moving in with him where did you live um in my own home which I still own my husband and I were separated um living on the same roof and it was just a lot of stress okay and where did you go after you left him I got my own apartment who do you work for I did work for Isis but right now I'm about to go back to Emy what kind of work do you do a nurse you get paid by check yes ma'am you put it in a checking account yes ma'am and is that how you pay your bills yes ma'am could you explain to me why when you claim at some point while you were living with Mr Crutcher he lost his income for a period of time and you claim you gave him $5,000 as a loan could you explain to me why you used cashiers checks rather than checks from your own bank well I just thought it would be a better record of keeping account you thought it would be a better record show me the better record well for the cashier's account I just thought it would be a better record show me the well in a bank account you get a statement yes ma'am you get a statement not only do you get no not only do you get a statement but you can get a copy of the check that's endorsed yes ma'am and so you have proof that not only did you pay the check but that the defendant cash the check yes ma'am so that's a lot of paperwork all I want to see you said you gave him three cashier checks for $5,000 no they added up that there was two for500 and one for 2,000 and then a personal check just a second so I have a personal check yes ma'am for $500 yes ma'am and then I have which is smart because then he endorsed it then I believe it $500 then I see a Wells Fargo and this is Wells Fargo so your account yes ma'am then you transferred at a totally different time once in June and once in October you wired $1,500 into his account yes ma'am and then now this isn't a wire no they're cashier checks that I got out of my bank account so I could keep record of the loan because he was supposed to be getting retirement money and he said as soon as he got the retirement money he would pay me back the money that I let him borrow these are all different times yes ma'am because the first month and I lived with him in June he said he needed a certain amount to pay his mortgage cuz he was going to lose his home well you left your house and you were working at the time and you were earning money and now you're in your own apartment so I assume you're paying rent were you paying him any rent did you have discussions about rent no he begged me to come live with him he said he would take care of me because I was trying to get out of a messy divorce that's okay but didn't you have any conversation about contribution to the house well yeah I paid for all the groceries I paid for oil changes on this car and truck uh bought a new AC cuz he didn't have AC in his house bought Furniture you left the air conditioning yes he still has the air conditioner a second how much did you pay for the air conditioner like $395 you still have the air conditioner yes your honor she didn't want to take it just a and Furniture what kind of furniture uh bought him a recliner because he said his back hurt okay and you still have the recliner she can have it you're just sick you have it yes ma'am you have it yes your honor great what kind of work do you do truck dver okay was there a time when you were out of work yes your honor when's that from when to when around June July August of last year until what Daye did you go back to work uh sometime in September and were you getting any disability at that time no your honor how did you expect to pay your mortgage I at the time I couldn't hardly think about how to get to the restroom much l all the other things that was going on in my life tell me about how she put this money into your account sir so that you were able to pay your mortgage she moved in in April prior to her going into rehab and uh I helped her through that and then well helped her that doesn't tell me anything uh supported her um financially financially I gave her a place to live no just second financially you gave her a place to live in April yes honor and then um in May uh eth I believe it was she went into rehab okay so that for a short period of time right and she was there for a month and then so in June now we're talking about June yes so now in June you're no longer working yeah he just quit when you're no longer working I believe that's around the time I got at work yes ma'am and it was health problems fine even if I say to you look she has contribution that she should make and I'm sure that during that time when she got out of rehab and she she was in fact working and she had I assume accumulated some money because you accumulate this kind of money in either a savings account or a checking account that would account for more than her share she lived with me from April until December 1st no she lived with you sir from June June she was in rehab in May she lived with you in June June she started to give you thousands of dollars my question to you is did there come a time when you finally got a check from disability no your honor from any sort of compensation going back to work just going back to work did you ever get a large check oh yes honor I come on come on come on from home um my retirement and when did you get the large check the first week of November and that's when I asked my okay and how much was the check $20,000 or so right in there 20 24 I believe you he was supposed to pay you back from this check that he got yes ma'am and I see where you provided the the funds and why you provided the funds cuz he wasn't working okay let's move on to these rings I don't have the engagement ring I sent it back to him like he asked where did you send it to the address he gave me of his friend Scott he told me to put his keys in his ring and an envelope and send them back to him and I did $495 cents postage well the keys I believe the ring would be stupid well I just put it in a yellow yellow you know bubble wrap envelope and with the keys and mailed it to him just like he asked do you have a a text of that where he asks you to mail the Rings back yes I'd like to see it I'm sorry I'm I I did ask her to do that you asked her to mail the Rings back is that what you said yes you're honor well either you got them or you lost them and I did not get them and she did not send them where you have to sign for it you know and insured just a sec just a second did you tell her to send it certified mail and insure it yes your honor you did can I see that sorry trying to get it on a little nervous Tina come help me help me find it last night oh there it is L crer and then it's in July it's in July of this year yes ma'am there's the tax am I um what I'm going to see what he rope that's fine I will put your keys in the mail since you're not answer me great my keys in my engagement ring send them to Scott and I even asked him oh no there's your problem what see I read a little further oh where I put I just a second I read a little further you said to him I will put your keys in the mail since you're not answering me great my keys and my engage engagement rings send them to Scott and with the address and you say at the same time you can send me the money you borrowed to my address you promised to pay me back when you got back on your feet right I do not want to go to court over this like the last woman you borrowed money from and never paid back so you were angry with him please I wanted us to be friends but I see you cannot handle this since we moved too fast before okay okay no answer then I will see you in small claims court for all the money you borrowed I'm putting your keys in the mail to the address you sent me well I know I put them you should have them by now when are you going to should have them by now the keys when are you going to send me the money you owe me okay I will assume you have all of your belongings by now since I have not heard from you when are you sending me the money this is also in July and then that's when I filed so do you have the keys and the ring okay now you're coming back to you Judge Judy continues in a moment and later today he was coming to pick me up for a party and I was going to sneak out cuz I didn't tell my mom so then when he came I guess the car crashed into the house and then yeah that's what happened let me hear your story after your ex fiance Vernon Wayne Crutcher goes for a loan to pay his mortgage Vernon is counters suing for the return of an engagement ring so do you have the keys in the ring can you text me Scott's number so I can ask him if he got it I believe you thank you your honor I don't believe you he took advantage of me just a second I don't believe you you want your rings back go to your friend Scott you want the your engagement ring that's your counter claim judging for the plaintiff in the amount of $5,000 your counter claims dismissed we're done thank you your honor I Des excuse and they step up she lived with me she didn't have a house to go to she she lived with me and because he kept assuring me he was going to pay me back as soon as he got the big check she was helping pay the bills that's I guess if she leaves the where she's leaving now or living now that when he got his check and still wouldn't pay me back the money he owed she'll be able to go to that landlord and sue them he just wanted us to have an instant family and it was just too much it was too consuming telling me that she wanted to get married have a life together and she didn't she was married somebody else so um it's just stressful divorce I'm going through how does a lady uh be married and get engaged I feel like an idiot but I won't let it happen again to somebody else how do they do that I'm glad she believed me this man took advantage of me and I just wanted my money back I might might have to do a u investigation on the next girl on date and now the next case may be seated ma'am have a seat please miss Boer how long have you lived in your home we moved in July 4th 1999 and how long have you been in your home um end of October last year 2015 and you are neighbors your properties are adjacent to each other is that correct her property sits behind mine it sits behind yours but it touches yes ma your property you have a common property line yes ma'am is that correct and there's been some difficulty I gather your complaint is that the defendant built part of a fence on your property to enclose her property yes you did a survey yes ma'am that survey indicated that the fence that she built was on your property yes ma'am and you forced her to take it down yes ma'am who took it down by the way I don't know ma'am you don't know who took it down somebody took it down either you took it down or you had a fence company take it down and in taking it down the Pooles of your property were damaged and had to be repaired in addition you think that Miss Allen should pay for the survey that you were forced to do yes ma'am you have a problem because you you say that you also had to do a survey yes ma to counter the plaintiff survey so you want her to pay for your survey and something about the removal of some trees that both the plaintiff and other neighbors objected to that you were planning to remove that were on your property and tree companies came to remove the trees the plaintiff and some other neighbors became Tree Huggers wouldn't let them remove the trees you want them to pay for that okay so let's deal with it relatively quickly I'm not awarding either of you any anything for conducting a survey of your property I happen to think that that's always a very good idea you are a new neighbor and if there are any issues with regard to the property and the property lines you should conduct a survey similarly if you have an issue with a neighbor to protect your property and the fence that she built is in the rear of your property yes ma she contested the first survey that we did have done that's okay she is permitted to do that how large a parcel of property do you have Miss Boyer point 225 acres and how large a piece of property I'm not exactly sure the exact is it an acre is it two acres is it no I would say it's probably like it's less than half an acre this fence that's at the back of your property is that fence visible from your house yes how much of an enros was there may I show you yes the first fence that she attempted to build was from the point of her lot over to our fence on this side the survey then showed that she was encroaching over here so she in turn went and built the fence here that's what this line is right here and just attached to our fence on this side encroaching it starts probably I would say maybe less than a foot here and increases up to a little bit more than a foot at this it's a p okay so it's minimal yes step back so that the only thing that I'm actually now interested on your side is evidence of the damag posts that you say existed as a result of her removing the fence well when she had the fence removed um we were home my husband and I at the time so you knew Who removed the fence I don't know who I mean I mean they were other people it wasn't the defendant no ma'am okay so it was a company I I I don't know I it was it was just Who removed the fence my fence company and it wasn't actually a fence it was one board that was moved the fence is still there it's been built but she stated that it was across her property line it's right on the property line the piece of board it's one board that was removed it's not actually a fence do you have a picture of that um no I do not okay so that your fence people removed it yes okay now I want to see proof that that post was damaged as a result of the removal of that board let me I have the first picture is is the uh her fence post that's right next to my fence post this one shows where it was bent and this the third picture shows a little bit better where the post has broke off at the bottom when they um installed the fence post on her lot it damaged mine and at the same time they cut the cable line the main cable line was in that area and they cut that too cuz none of the utilities had been previously marked when she put the fence up so am I correct that it's the second Post in ma'am yes ma'am this one yes ma'am the second Post in is the one that was busted and it's in direct line with the post that I guess her fence people put up can I see a picture I haven't even seen a picture I don't even know about a post are you talking about this split in the no ma'am the post itself oh I see the post itself talking down yeah the post itself was was broke when they've erected her fence on her property would you show these to the defendant please anything else anything else thank the the survey I just feel that survey I don't care what you feel you have a survey for your own proper she contested my survey that's why I had to have a second survey cuz she contested it but she knew the property lines because survey was done don't tell me what you knew well okay now Miss Allen I mean I don't actually see such a big deal when you're talking about less than a foot of property that should create bad feeling and animus between two neighbors that are going to have to live together so I actually don't understand it but you're certainly entitled to bring a lawsuit if you feel as if your property has been encroached upon and clearly had it been encroached upon she knew she had to move it she moved it you want to do a survey second survey she asked for it somebody evidently said do it did you go to the town no ma'am were you involved with the town at all were you involved with any Authority no it's just when she contested that survey the original Sur you she contested that usually is a legal term she said that my survey was wrong she didn't agree with it and so she went ahead and built a fence on it after that then I obtained a survey to show that she was wrong okay and you fixed it because she I actually never knew she had a survey in the beginning I had got my own survey you want to tell me about the trees now yeah and I don't you want to tell me about the trees yes um I have trees on the other side of my property and when I was trying to build my fence that's when the issue became of where my property line I already have um evidence here I spoke with the HOA and got approval for this fence um before I even purchased my house I'm not concerned about the fence anymore now we're talking about your trees okay well where the trees are at is where I tried to originally build my fence the the plain if was with my neighbor and telling my neighbors that those trees per her survey were not on my actual property line that they were the neighbor's property that they were on Whose property my neighbor's property somebody else's property not hers correct so she was informing them that they weren't so um that they were not your trees to take down correct they they belong to some other neighbor based upon her survey yes ma'am and and as I was trying to remove the trees the plaintiff and the neighbors got in the middle of where the tree company was there trying to remove the trees and and they could not remove all the trees they stood in the way of their work okay because according to to her survey those trees were on a neighbor's property line yeah but it was incorrect they were not for the survey just yes yes ma'am okay anything else I do have a video showing where they were trying to get in the way of the fence and everything being built I don't care okay my sense is that these people are not erratic nuts that there was a legitimate belief that those are not your trees to cut down and I assume that you eventually cut down the trees most of them they're still half there I couldn't finish the work I paid a tree company so that you did not cut down the trees that are contested is that correct yes you did not cut down the trees that are contested is that correct yes ma'am okay great all right I don't see any major damage there actually as a result of any fence I can't tell whether that was done before after whether it was cut I don't see any major damage and certainly the fence is certainly upright and you have no case on a counter claim we're done if you can't live together in these terrible times if this is what is occupying your time a foot a tree a half a foot a foot post then I think that you probably both need to be on some serious medication bye are excused and they step out if she would have just came to us and spoke to us first without doing it vindictively behind our back they harassed me for a really long time I finally built my fence between us it probably would have been salved outside of court I don't have to see them like she said I have neighbors on the other side oh the neighbors are were all on our side they're welcome me there so I kind of feel bad because they all kind of took our side and know you're rights when you deal with crazy people just don't stop she's kind of out in the cold there but wrong is wrong yeah stick up for your right and EMT Moss is suing his former friend naen Drury for unpaid loans cour come to order all rise he seated everybody hello judge how about you face number 2015 Moss versus jury thank you welcome Mr Moss prior to leasing an apartment with the defendant had you known each other sort of uh tell me a sort of so we met one time uh about a year prior we have mutual friends one of which had asked me to get ordained to marry her and her husband so I flew in town to do that and naen was there at their house when I flew in we saw each other for a few minutes and that's actually the only time we've ever met person and there came a time when you were looking for an apartment where I was looking for an apartment in the Salt Lake area and where had you been living in Seattle and where were you living Miss jury in Salt Lake City you were looking to move yes so other than that onetime meeting when you were officiating at a mutual friends wedding you hadn't met before but somebody suggested that you were looking for an apartment you were looking for a new apartment and perhaps you could rent an apartment together yes that that's fair statement in fact yes and in what month and year did that happen it would have been in uh October of 2020 that this Arrangement sort of came to be like hey maybe you should see if n but you did in fact sign a lease together who found the apartment n did you did prior to signing the lease Mr Moss had you seen the apartment no um no was the answer did you ever see the apartment other than videos or photographs of it no I never prior to signing the lease correct also correct correct on what date was the lease signed on the 7th of uh November of 2020 the rent on the apartment was how much it was 585 a month each $1,170 your honor so 585 per month each you both signed it on the same day did you move in I did on what date November 8th and you were still in Seattle correct did you ever move into the apartment never and that is also correct correct because for whatever reason you decided to stay in Seattle correct is that work related or socially social and then you contacted her and told her that you weren't intending to move in correct but that you would continue to pay your half of the rent that also correct correct your honor and you were making a direct deposit to the account to pay the rent yeah it was an automatic payment from my account to the rental to the rental office to the rental office then you came to find that Miss jury had stopped paying her portion of the rent when did you stop making payments on your portion of the rent in January so you paid either full or partial for November because you moved in on the 8th and you PID December's rent correct and you stopped paying rent in January why I lost my job in December of 2020 so I'm going to outline now what this case is about yes Mr Moss continued paying his half of the rent until you found a roommate correct and you found a roommate when I believe I found him in February and he he moved in in the month of March and started paying his half of the rent so you didn't pay rent January or February correct two months correct and you had no work correct when you found out that the rent wasn't being paid according to you in order to not impact your credit you spoke to her she said I don't have a job you said I can help you out I'll send you money m is that generally what happened then I'll get that's generally what happened um but there is a little more detail to I'm going to let you get to the details all right and you want that money back the money that you Advanced her in her time of need which was how much in total the total is $3,360 she did at some point pay me $300 back so the amount I am seeking is 3,60 okay are those figures accurate yes and he gave you that money not because you were good friends cuz you were a relative he had met you one time right and he had in fact said to you I will continue to pay my rent even though I know you from hold in I will continue CU I signed this lease until you find someone to get me off the lease that's correct your honor and your defense it seems to me to this action m is that he was really trying to scam the government by depleting his bank account so we could collect food stamps or whatever no and as a result of that because he wasn't being honest with the government you shouldn't have to pay him back I just want to know if that's what I'm reading correctly there was never an agreement payback that that's a different story I'm going to read this over cuz you know I'm getting elderly and I may not have recalled exactly what you said in your answer it doesn't say that here it says several months later it's after you found a new roommate EMT randomly reached out to me saying that I owed him money and demanded that I take out a personal loan to pay it I refused EMT has some nerve not only did he break the lease well what difference does that make to you he still was paying his half of the rent so now you had a whole apartment by yourself and he was paying the rent right so why does he have some nerve but he took advantage of me and used me to scam the system MH so that's what I understand your defense is it is I have video evidence your honor video of what of EMT of EMT what of EMT explaining why he was trying to get on assistance and how he was like it's fine for you to pay rent with this money cuz I'm trying to empty my bank account so that I can get it is true okay just a second just a second let's say that's true he's going I'm just trying to sh I furnished the down payment for the car okay so you bought two cars no just one I I uh didn't have a vehicle at the time oh you know I'm not believing you sir I'm really not buying this whole story [Music] EMT Moss claims his former friend naen jury owes for unpaid loans naen says EMT broke the lease they were both on I'm just trying to get your mindset I'm you know I hate people who scam the system but you got this money from him mhm and your defense is that he was trying to scam somebody else so you shouldn't really have to pay him back even though it was his money it was his Mone it was his money that he took out of his bank and gave to you right for no reason that I never agreed to pay back for a lease that he was legally on he's responsible for that rent money no matter what you mean so you get to live there free no I well just a second so you get to live there free if he paid for it for the months that you didn't you got to live there free he wasn't even living there it's not as if he was living there and you didn't get to live there free you lived there alone mhm and he was paying the rent yes well why do you think you're not responsible for that once you get back on your feet we never talked about a repayment no that's not okay now we definitely talked about repay now I want you to explain to me and be very careful because you know I've been in this system a very long time so I know about social services and I know about the system and I know about welfare and I know about food stamps I know all about that so you contact her yes and she tells you she lost her job yes let's pick it up up from there okay so I found out through the payment portal that she hadn't paid rent yeah I got we passed that okay I contacted her about that well the there was don't look up apologies um I I sent her money that night no no no no no no no you contacted the portal and then you had to have had a conversation with her right right if you tell the truth you don't have to have a good memory let's start with you contacted the portal and you found out she hadn't been paying her rent that was in January correct January the 2 and January she hadn't paid rent and you called her and she said to you she said to me that she didn't have money to pay which I was aware of because she had previously told me that she uh had well okay I was aware that she had lost her job I was just a second how did you become aware that she had lost her job because we were friendly with each other we were talking several times a week via Facebook Messenger fine you knew that she lost her job yes and I assume you knew if she lost her job and you was speaking several times a week let's be very careful this isn't just calling the pay portal and finding out that this stranger who you met once wasn't paying her rent you were speaking and you knew that she had fallen on difficult times and I did um I didn't don't go up here right here I didn't know that she wasn't going to pay rent on time no there a second on you didn't know what on the second was when I found out that the rent hadn't been paid I on the second of January the second of January just look at me m on the 2nd of January you found out the rent hadn't been paid what did you do so I called naen to ask about it and she told me that she didn't have the money and so I said okay I have these extra funds because I at the time was also unemployed um I had been taking payments apologies um unemployment payments and then the co payment and what the extra payments for Co on top of unemployment because this was 2020 welcome to inflation 101 right so all of my payments had been late and had come in a lump sum so that is why I had so your unemployment and your covid funds yes came in in one lump sum correct and I want you to think very very carefully mm and you're living where sir Seattle with whom um at the time uh I was is Seeking a roommate no where were you living so I was living in Seattle in Seattle with whom No One by yourself yes uh technically someone was paying rent because they had moved out no don't you're looking up at the sky sorry don't look up at the sky so somebody had moved out of their apartment yeah which had been prepaid in rent yes so you were living there rentree no no no this was my apartment that I lived in for 3 years and someone else had moved in and then moved out and they broke the lease not me they broke the lease but they paid the rent correct they they paid their half I was still paying my half of rent I never defaulted on my rental payments in Seattle ever and they were still paying theirs yes so we were both each paying our respective parts of the rent and I was paying rent in Utah and you were paying rent where the defendant was living MH okay so I want you to think very carefully when you got your unemployment mhm and your extra covid money in a lump sum how much did you get what no no don't look over there you know exactly how much you got yeah you don't have to think about it just give me a number $10,000 well that should last you for a little bit and you got $10,000 on what date I don't remember month it would have been in November okay so now she's run out of funds and you say to her I can go ahead by the time we get to January I do not have $10,000 I have much less because of other circumstances like what like needing to purchase a car for the girlfriend that I stayed in town a car yes what else rental payments that's it nothing you bought your girlfriend a car I did her car that she had was a beater um and it was unsafe care I don't care what about your car I did like use a down I I I furnished the down payment for the car okay so you bought two cars no just one I I uh didn't have a vehicle at the time oh you know I'm not believing you sir I'm really not buying this whole story you're living by yourself with a roommate the roommate moves out your girlfriend had a terrible car you don't live with a girlfriend but you bought her car you didn't have a car but you bought her a car I had if we need to back it back it up I had given up my car in a a um bankruptcy earlier in the year because of in whose bankruptcy my your bankruptcy that is why I didn't have getting better all the time Okie do it was an interesting year that doesn't mean you don't owe money it just means I have to know the characters that I'm dealing with I understand your honor okay while you were going to the program which you said it was in person were you getting any government assistance that was connected to this trade school I that's either a yes or a [Music] no EMT Moss has accused his former friend naen Drury of refusing to pay back loans naen claims she was used by EMT to scam the government so now you've got much less money from the the $10,000 you bought your girlfriend a car you had to pay her rent you paid your own rent had other things from bankruptcies that you had before so you have a little bit of money left in the bank yes go ahead so I so don't look over there right here on that evening of the 2 I paid naen a total of $710 um enough to cover the rent of $585 any fees it would cost her to go and withdraw that money from the bank and she also asked for extra money for groceries just a second you acknowledge a $3,000 amount of money that he gave you am I right yes you say that that's cor correct includes the money that he's saying that he spent on rent that he gave me for rent and he's also asking for his deposit the deposit for the Department back okay well he's entitled to that you have a new roommate who I'm sure you got a deposit from she chose to not and if you didn't collect a deposit from the roommate well that's her problem because she's going to get the deposit back yeah okay well that's reasonable she's going to get the deposit back when she leaves when you leave if you leave the place in good condition he was never living there so if you don't leave it in good condition then it's on you I want to know about this video that she wants me to look at where you tell her some sort of a scheme you have to get more money from the government it wasn't a scheme why don't you tell me about it so far we got $110,000 that was supposed to last you for six months and you blew it on a cof of a girlfriend and so you may not call it a scheme I want you to tell me why you had to have a zero bank account I didn't have zero bank account a more limited access to money what were you applying for sir so not so up here so here okay I was applying for a program to um go into the trades so it was like a work study program uh like electrician plumber that sort of thing and again I didn't have a job and um unemployment had completely stopped and as far as how many years did you collect unemployment it was less than one year how many years had you worked how many years have I worked yeah uh I've been working since I was 16 so well surprised the unemployment totally ran out because they kept extending unemployment people were unemployment for years during covid when they cut me off December of 2020 they did not reestablish my claim I I kept applying and it was denied so I don't know why but it was what kind of work do you do now I work for customer service okay and the trade school that you wanted to go to was to prepare you for what to be an electrician was what I wanted to do an electrician yes and was this an online program no this was in person where um it was in Seattle and how much did they give you to go to that program they didn't give me money to go to the program uh but the program was free of charge okay so the government pay the tuition uh I believe that well somebody pays the tuition sir yeah yeah so the government pays the tuition m and while you were going to the program which you said it was in person MH how were you supporting yourself so were you getting any government assistance that was connected to this trade school I that's either a yes or a no yes I applied for food stamps and got food stamps that is what I got so you applied for some sort of a assistance while you were going to this trade school which you're not practicing now then you're not an electrician that is correct and in order to apply for food stamps you have to have a certain amount of money is the maximum you can have in your bank that is correct okay so that's the fraud you're talking about that's why you gave you the money yes ma'am okay I mean it's just a second I also gave her the money because she was going to need the the money for rent like it was one of those situations where it was mutually beneficial for me to give her the money but it wasn't you're looking up at the sky I understand what happened so I I wasn't going to have any way to support myself I needed something to the the $2,000 was going to cover the rent for my place and my place in Seattle and my place in Utah and then I wasn't going to have anything I understand that it became mutually beneficial for you to advance her the money so that your bank account would have lessen it so that you could receive assistance and also get free tuition at a trade school that you didn't use my intention was to use it and I changed my decision ision later that's do you think the trade school charged the government once you enrolled in it yes yes of course they did and you know how much the tuition was in the trade school yes you have to know no it was free to you but it wasn't free to the government the government pays $1,500 was what I was made to understand baloney you people really somehow deserve each other but you owe him $3,000 Madam judgment for the plaintiff we had done this court is a journ I'm a little bit uh shocked to be made out as a a government scammer I mean I lost my job and I wasn't able and he bailed on the the lease that he signed because that wasn't uh ever my intentions I mean I was alone I had lost my job I just didn't have any support definitely careful about getting uh money from the government just glad it's done glad I don't ever have to see him again haven't had to uh do that since this whole situation and I intend to keep it that way you know it's so unfortunate because that plaintiff looked like an intelligent enough man able-bodied seemingly and he spent a lot of time effort brain power into bankruptcy proceedings trade schools that would be paid for by the government applying for food stamps knowing what the threshold for food stamps is so that he had to get rid of a certain amount of money that seems like a lot of time and effort that could have been better spent gaining legitimate employment or skills at a trade school legitimately and it's just unfortunate that some people decide to take the path that I view as more difficult in searching for ways to get free money really unsatisfying yeah if you think about it unsatisfying maybe going forward he'll take a different path maybe case 2073 Joseph versus Williams all parties please go forward Donell Joseph is suing his niece Tina Williams and his sister Martha Williams for personal property Mr Joseph these two ladies are your half sisters my half sister and herter my niece so what's your first name Martha Williams Martha is your half sister yes and your first name Tina Tina is your niece yes and you and Martha had the same mother yes your mother had a house the house was in her name your mother passed away in the early 70s yes at that time she was married to your father not your father correct and your father lived in the house until he died yes and he died in what year 2018 somehow the house which had been in your mother's name never went through a probate process so as far as the law was concerned the house remained in her name it never went to her surviving spouse or her children when she passed away in the early 70s what I'm reading is when your father passed away in 2018 the house sort of remained vacant for a while for how long since he passed away so nobody's lived there correct and you knew your father passed away I assume yes and you knew your mother passed away yes and after your mother passed away she passed away in 1971 or 1972 did you ever visit with your father in that house I visit with my father I lived in the house from when to when well I lived in the house 1963 until like 72 and I start moving out but I will still go back to the house because it's my family home I want to know the last time Mr Joseph you lived in the house 1993 so almost 30 years ago and where have you been the last 30 years I've been in New York I've been incarcerated you've been incarcerated from when to when 93 to 2012 so 1993 is when you last lived in the house correct but you were released from prison in 2012 yes so for the last 10 years you have not been back to the house I've been back to the house but not living there as a residence so for 10 years right as an adult how old are you I'm 64 as an adult from age 54 to 64 you had access to the house visited your father in the house right not before then right okay and you haven't lived there full-time in decades correct this is what your lawsuit wants you had 10 years after you were released from prison to go and get these treasures and you didn't do it because my father's house was like The Treasure of all his children's property as long as he had as long as he had a bicycle or a Boy Scout book let's start being real [Music] okay Donell Joseph claims his niece Tina Williams and his sister Martha Williams away his personal belongings Tina and Martha are countersuing for the cost of a cleaning crew lawsuit is seeking $10,000 yes because according to you the defendants disposed of your property that was invaluable and I'm going to describe the property that you say was invaluable a 1911 Boy Scout Handbook yes that you treasure yes you should have taken it out of the house house in 30 years if you treasured it a mountain bike purchased in what year was a 71 to 72 around there I know it was a three Spirit 10 speed I got that was in 1970 and the UN Vega you wanted it this 50e old mountain bike you should have taken it over the last 10 years a vintage real tooreal tape player yes you know how many of those I threw in the trash do you have any idea how many of those I threw in the trash you got those a half a century ago oh my God I remember them big reels and how excited we were you could talk into a microphone and and then you could hear your voice come back and then all of a sudden you got a phone you could do that the same thing so everybody took these things and they couldn't find enough places to dispose of them it's not vintage anything it's a piece of trash can I speak your honor about what okay the real real tapes right some of the tapes had speakings of my brother and Martha's daughter then you should have taken them with you in 40 years if they were Treasures of yours sir and you're 64 years old I would want those Treasures around me and you had 10 years after you were released from prison to go and get these treasures and you didn't do it you just left them in your father's house because my father's house was like The Treasure of all his children's property this is how we connected to our father because every body has left everybody has died so long as he has as long as he had a bicycle as long as he had a bicycle or a Boy Scout book The Boy Scout book was handed down to me to my fathers let's start being real okay okay let's start being real okay and the first draft of my published manuscript yes why didn't you take that with you for safee keepings I let my father hold it because well that's not a good idea sir how old was your father when he passed away oh he was 88 but my father's mind was was Shar as as a attack he kept everything if you wanted it your father passed in 2018 is that what you're telling me I couldn't get nothing out of the house so I don't know whether you could or whether you couldn't when did you make an just a second when did you make an effort to remove your man forget about the bike forget about real toore tape recorder forget about the nonsense your manuscript when did you write this manuscript I write it a couple of years it's the the first draft of this book it's the first draft of that book this book well now you have the book but I needed to draft there because the other draft I'm working on on the second book that goes along with this book I don't have certain notes and things that I had it doesn't exist anymore yes it doesn't it doesn't exist anymore and if you wanted it you should have gotten it in 2018 when your father died you were out of prison where were you living I was living in New York and where did your father live he lived in Los Angeles between 2012 and 2018 how many trips did you make to visit with your father about three and when did you publish that book 2015 so you published that book during your father's lifetime yes and if you needed the manuscript you came to visit your father a manuscript it's this big that's how big a manuscript is yes where were you living in New York in Albany you have your own apartment or your own home house do you own or rent own when did you purchase it my wife we bought it together it was in 2009 so you're married yes have children no so you and your wife purchased a house in 2009 how much did you pay for the house 109,000 are you still living there yes so you had plenty of room in the house you had plenty of room for a manuscript tapes a manuscript that you were working on you weren't working on the manuscript long distance what I'm telling you Mr Joseph is the things that you're suing for are nonsense okay if things that you wanted that a grown-up man 64 years old gets if he wants them it's not that you're a homeless you have a home a home that you purchased you went to visit your father three times anything of value we're not talking about furniture and antiques and a grandfather clock we're talking about things that can fit in a tissue box you put them in your suitcase and take them with you if they're valuable I couldn't visit California before that because of the conditions of My Parole so the times that I could go I I can go out there and I have to have you told me you went out there three times when your father was alive when I had when I had permission to go so I couldn't after my father passed away I couldn't go in the house because that would violate the probe thing so I had permission to go into the house you're not understanding me Mr J you not understand you went there three times after you were out of prison after you had a home after you were married when you went there with a suitcase don't tell me violating your parole unless you told me there and in the suitcase should have been when you returned from California to to New York small things of value that you say were invaluable to you including a manuscript forget the bicycle forget the tapeo tape real recorder the tapes that you say were precious to you if they belong to you put them in a suitcase so there's a lot more about this that I don't quite understand there's a lot about this that I don't quite understand when your father passed away who got the house that's the house your father passed away what happened to the house the house is still in Probate oh so doing the probate thing I had to have permission to take anything out of the house yeah I'm telling you the I'm I've I've answered your lawsuit sir okay I've answered your lawsuit thank that you're a 64 year old man and if something that could fit in a tissue box was that precious to you when you visit your father and you had a home you would have taken it with you when you left certain things I couldn't take this is not a tea dance the property has lost this but I lost a sister in this process he said he and and it make it makes no difference of how this go I lost the system this isn't the probate court so I would suggest that you all take a deep breath and say whatever it is let it be finished [Music] Donell Joseph claims his niece Tina Williams and his sister Martha Williams threw away his personal belongings Tina and Martha are countering for the cost of a cleaning crew I asked you if the house is still in Probate which is unfortunate cuz people didn't take care of the business who are the beneficiaries of the sale of the house me my sister leanda my half brother Justin Joseph my sister Sherry's two sons okay let's try to clarify this are you the executive of the will there's no will I'm my mom's the administrator of the probate and I just got to be administrator we had to go back and forth to court we had no way of getting in and out of the house because we had no keys okay and your father I assume had no will yeah had no will what's the value of the house well we don't know because since Martha become the administrator just a second what's the address of the house my mom had the house of Praise at 250 she's going to tell me so the off Market says it's approximating 464,000 it's a three bed one bath 858 ft and the estimate the range is between 400 and 515 ooh well the family has a valuable asset that has yet to be divided after all this time it's a good lesson for everybody out there make a will now you can tell me thank you my grandma which is their mother she bought the house house on her own uh with my mom's last name which is her dad's statement is her maid name who she was married to we don't know if they were married that's what we're going through in Probate it's a process but the beneficiaries would be DaNell my mom and two Heirs of a deceased sibling DaNell has also been in jail for most of my life he hasn't been to California at all so I wanted to back that up as well well he's not entitled to anything if he wanted these items that were valuable to him he should have taken them during his 64 years the most safest place that I had in the world for my Vue be was if you want a home in New York with your wife and you had an opportunity to take these valuable things cuz you said you visited with your father after 2009 then you should have taken them and don't tell me it was the safest place because not only the safest thing but my father he lost two sons the only thing that he had in the in his house is the things that was left over from his children and to take anything that was value away from his children would have hurt my father so the safest place Mr Joseph you don't think you're going to prison hurt your father Yes okay let's get why let's get real okay you're not getting any money here okay you're going to wait for probate and in the probate procedure which hopefully won't take forever but it clearly can because people are irresponsible and don't create a will it is likely that you will have part of the proceeds of this house likely only because if your mother passed away and and if she was in fact married to your father or lived with him at that time in California if there was a common law relationship and they did have children together then you as a offspring would be entitled if there was no will to part of the proceeds of this house yes when she bought the house she bought it as a married woman so when she didn't buy Len that's something Mr Joseph you don't have to convince me of you have to convince the Probate Judge okay you also have a counter claim that's ridiculous and I'm not entertaining it it's really just stupid stay with probate when is the probate proceeding supposed to be finished well we're going through a mandatory um settlement one thing I want to say y honor however this probate is I wanted to you know the property has lost this but I lost a sister in this process he said he was and it make it makes no difference how this go I lost a sister my niece see my sister this isn't the Probate Court Mr Joseph this is not the Probate Court Mr Joseph and I suggest that if you love your sister she know I love her just a second if you love your sister and you're 64 years and you're you know I love you Mr Joseph Mr Joseph I know you can get emotional in situations where family is involved and your sister clearly is sick because she's using oxygen I just had liver surgery Mr Joseph what I'm telling you is if you have an opportunity in the probate court I'm actually telling this to both you and Miss Williams if you have an opportunity at your age and your stage to settle something that gives each of you something maybe less than you would get if somebody was disinherited but at this stage in life at 64 years old somebody who just had liver surgery and someone who must rely on oxygen in order to breathe my Common Sense tells me that what you do is not to give the whole thing away to lawyers who are there sucking up whatever profits there are going to be in this house because if the house is worth $200,000 you're going to get a bill for $140,000 for the probate administrator for the lawyers and you're going to wind up with Zippity dudah so I would suggest that you all take a deep breath and say whatever it is let it be finished you have no case Mr Joseph rely on the probate system I wish you good luck I said um your counter suit's ridiculous I'm missing I want to tell you something your countersuit for having to rehire somebody to move is ridiculous I'm telling you rely on the Probate Court we are done here would you please let me uh present my counter no I read it I read it I'm dismissing it on its face we're done this court is a journey all I can say is it's I love my sister this the same thing that's happening nothing whether it's a probate thing or not that ain't going to never change I don't want to hear anything else I'm always loving cuz that's my sister let the pro bakes Court decide you know at 25 after doing season one of this show I created and executed a will because this is a situation we've seen far too many times and it's so unfortunate to see the breakdown of a family over something that could have been prevented had the mother father grandfather grandmother created a will when they were alive to tell the rest of us how they' prefer their property to be disposed of it's fascinating to me that their mother is gone for 50 years and for 50 years that title to that house which is a never got flagged never was nobody ever thought about it and the father lived there for 40 years must have at least paid the taxes ta absolutely and then he's gone and everybody is in this awful state of limbo and you know what it is with all those siblings and half siblings and grandchildren and whatever even if the house she says she had it appraise for 250 you looked it up and you 400,000 but even if it is and it's has to be divided with six people that's a substantial chunk of money but it doesn't look like for either one of them it's life altering money he lives in a home he has a wife he looks as if he's okay since he's been released from prison but he has health issues his sister has health issues and they're going to spend the last years of the stressed worried about this probate angry I mean I saw how emotional Mr Joseph got I love my sister well if you love your sister then if you love your sister then you don't sue her yeah I don't understand it anyway your advice is solid and sound and I support it please step forward Ryan Hastings is suing his former roommate pton Cammer for a security deposit personal belongings and filing a false restraining order Mr Hastings you and the defendant were roommates I'm not quite understanding yes correct clearly whether you were roommates or in a relationship what was it it was just roommates when did you start to be roommates in September of 2020 did you know each other before yes how we were just uh friends that met at a party and hung out often starting when um that was in December of 2019 and what made you decide to room together we were both looking for a place to live so um since we both needed that we found this apartment together two bedrooms correct and you moved in with animals I correct I understand from the complaint correct cats yes how many I had two I had two I didn't ask you anything yet you had two and Miss camer had two any other animals no so you lived started to live together during Co correct were you working yes was Miss CA working yes what was the rental on the apartment it was 1365 and you each played half correct so far correct was everything okay in 2020 September October November December as far as rent no as far as the living Arrangement oh um in 2020 yeah we just had many squabbles but overall we were just fine I'm going to ask you the same question in 2020 everything okay no what happened in 2020 it was emotional Warfare since I moved in with him it was there was arguments with everything even simple things like cleaning the dishes just non-stop I was terrified of him living with him I couldn't bring anything up without it being an argument okay so prior to moving in with Mr Hastings where did you live with my parents how old are you I'm 21 is this the first time you had an apartment yes and how far away were your parents from this apartment probably like 10 minutes if you were terrified you should have moved home I wasn't allowed to you weren't allowed to because because my um I just I wasn't allowed to live with my dad and stepmom because they moved into a 55 and over neighborhood when um they if you tell the truth you don't have to have a good memory they moved in a little after I moved into my apartment I moved into my apartment to prepare for them moving out I just don't want to hear drama if you had fights over who's going to clean the dishes and who I don't want to hear terrified unless you're terrified and if you're terrified and you're 21 years old you go back to where you came from to your parents house if you're terrified may not have liked it but that's just kid drama so squabbles in 2020 your lawsuit says that she disposed of your belongings she filed a restraining order yes as a result of the restraining order you were evicted from the apartment yes it was a false restraining order you hired a lawyer to appeal the finding of the judge yes that you had harassed her because this restraining order was based B on harassment yes may I see a copy of it please I have a copy of the restraining order of the order or what was based on it said what it it has the whole thing it says what it was based on yeah I see what she has it doesn't look like it was tell was it was based on you do a write up of what it was based on on the front page in a little box it has a little description of what happened okay so the judge who heard this case and I'm assuming everything in this write up is true on the above date which was the 7th of September 2021 on the above date and time defendant of the plaintiff engaged in a verbal argument of the household chores the defendant then made comments to the plaintiff that he would go crazy on her and raised his fist the defendant stated this multiple times and started shaking in Anger causing the plaintiff to be in fear for her life and you had a hearing on this yes you had a hearing on this you told this to a judge yes yes I want you to tell me what you told the judge or did you tell the judge anything I told the judge that I uh was raising my voice but I was standing a good amount of distance away from her at the time and that I was shaking because I wasn't being listened to and that was it there was no uh physical uh interaction there only verbal interaction did the judge say to you how would you describe shaking in Anger CU you weren't being listened to I was shaking just because I was angry I was just trying to keep my composure well that would frighten [Music] me Ryan Hastings claims his former roommate pyton Cammer for a security deposit and personal belongings Peyton is counter suing for rent and emotional distress now tell me did the judge say to you how would you describe shaking in anger because you weren't being listened to can you repeat that question I don't know how you were shaking you mean you I was shaking as in like um I was shaking just because I was angry I was I wasn't being listened to I was trying to keep my composure so I was just shaking well that would frighten me actually I don't know whether I put you out of your house but that would frighten me Mr Hastings where are you living now I just moved into a new apartment with whom myself better yes and my cats perfect yourself and your cats great now I'm going to tell you Mr Hastings if that happened to me with a man who was larger than I was that might frighten me if he appeared out of control so I'm dismissing that part of your complaint which seeks damages for a false restraining order okay what you actually just testified to me and I took everything that she said in her complaint against you I didn't even have to ask her I wanted to know what you told the judge of course then it was a a reasonable issuing of a protective order just to make sure that it appeared to me what you were testifying to is that she couldn't tell the difference whether you were composing yourself or whether you were out of control okay so it was May I interject and just say that the restraining order was uh repealed and remanded saying that the court did not find sufficient evidence to impose the order and whether it was or not I just I don't care what I'm not sitting as an appell at court okay I'm sitting as a Trier of fact for the first time in your civil action and what you told me in my judgment was sufficient for a judge to say you know I don't want to preside over an assault case or a homicide case this guy says he was shaking she says he was shaking in Anger you say I was shaking to try to maintain my composure well I'm not going to worry about them let him go find someplace else to live which is what he did so I think that that's reasonable money owed for the return of security deposit now he was put out of the apartment he put in security deposit correct and he was put out of the apartment how much security deposit did he put in $682 are you still living in the apartment I am okay when he moved out of the apartment as a result of this restraining order was there any damage in the apartment that he caused no then you have to give him back his $682 because any damage that would have resulted since he moved out would be your damage okay that's fair enough $682 that's your security deposit sir return of belongings okay so when you were told that you had to vacate the apartment tell me what belongings you left in the apartment which you you think she still has which belong to you I do not believe she has anything anything of mine left in that apartment well what do you think she owes you for I am seeking the uh money for that for those items because they were thrown away what items um so I had a bed uh just a second you had a bed and there was a major flea problem in the apartment as a result of your cats correct okay she threw away the bed what else okay um there was a Nintendo switch do you know what that is Nintendo switch I never found that I believe he took that the night with him okay she didn't have it she didn't throw it away what else I also had a hookah that was in there oh what a hookah yeah do you have his hookah no go what's next um okay if you have to think about it that hard sir we're finished she owes you back your security deposit that's $682 you have a counter claim most of it is nonsense you counter claim for emotional distress get that only one emotionally distressed usually in this room is me money owed for the month's rent for a final month's rent what is that he didn't pay the month of September he was late on it the month of September but that would have been the $682 was he there in September um September 1st would have been the day that the money was due no when did he vacate the apartment as a result of your restraining order September 7th when the the night of the the mistake but he was laid on rent often 682 that's what he gets yes as he gets a security deposit back your cter claims dismissed we're finished thank you very much thank you this court is adjourned I don't really disagree with anything everything went perfectly the way I would have hoped it went I'm glad I got my security deposit back but I could have definitely been compensated for the items that I lost I mean he got a little money out of it but way less than he thought he would it's a good day sometimes I can get anxious but I would not hurt anybody physically I hope he gets some help me and my cats are the best Trio you know I remember from a very early period in my life when I started college that I wasn't really good at having a roommate I think you must have passed that on to me I did especially one that you don't love you know it's hard enough to live with somebody that you love you know they get irritated you know she said they fought over dishes and not doing the dishes well you know you've lived with us so you know I have that argument all the time but I love him yeah very hard to deal with somebody Schmutz that you don't love got to be careful and pick someone you really think and cross your fingers and toes actually Sarah I don't think you should pick anybody I think that what you should do if you can is live in a shoe box by yourself if that's all you can afford you know how many roommate cases we've done just in the last couple of years all with stress and aggravation intertwined immensely immensely and that's without romance involved I mean this young man who looks like a perfectly reasonable young man and very honest said he told the judge that he was shaking I said well describe to me what you were doing and he shook and crazy she was getting under his skin there's no question she was getting under middle of Co everyone's you could tell she was getting under her skin she was terrified you know she's 21 years old yeah a little dramatic for speech speech spee spee speech for foreign spee for for speech for for speech for for foreign spe