my dad was a high school Co coach when I was born my dad and mother uh both grew up in Ballinger Texas out kind of in the midd middle of nowhere out in West Texas kind we High School sweethearts got married my dad uh got a scholarship to Rice went to rice for a year um ended up transferring to uh St Angelo which was Angelo State which at that time was a junior college and then ended up at Stephen F Austin and got his degree from there and got into coaching and was a head coach at Big Spring High School when I was born then went to Alice high school and then from Alice high school went to the University of Texas so you know I was kind of Born to to a coaching family and a family that moved around a lot um you know my dad was old school in a lot of ways I mean he was you know big believer in a work ethic and just a a kind of a a black and white way of doing things he's one of those guys who went to the office pretty much every day at 5 o'clock in the morning and came home pretty much every day at 10:00 at night just kind of grinded all the time and that was his mentality and I spent a lot of time with my mother my mother and I were really close she's kind of the one that that um I spent the most time with my mom was uh really an interesting person love to read very artistic I kind of picked up a passion for reading when I was really young from her one of the things that we used to do quite a bit growing up was you know go to every single garage sale wherever it was we lived and and buy books and she would read half the books I'd read half the books and we would kind of switch and talk about them and and that's you know that's the kind of relationship we had and my dad took a lot of pride in being a good father but you know just wasn't around a whole lot we all played all the sports growing up uh from a very young age and you know everything we could play and and kind kind of what got me into it