76th Primetime Emmy Awards Predictions

hello everyone this is Jeffrey care The Prime Time EMES are upon us they'll be taking place on Sunday September 15th at 800 pm on ABC Jack mahines is here to join me in discussing current predictions for the winners in the drama comedy and limited series categories at the time of this recording the creative arts Awards haven't taken place yet in fact night one's actually going to be taking place tonight as today is Saturday September 7th so whatever we talk about on this Podcast May already be dated by the time you're listening in fact I actually haven't made my predictions yet but I will soon so are you ready to begin ja let's do this thank you so much for having me back all right for outstanding comedy series the bearer is expected to win this for the second tier in row or I guess technically not second year in a row depending on how you categorize last year ceremony taking place well earlier this year since it was Oly delayed because of the Hollywood strikes from last year but even though I haven't made my predictions yet I do think this might be NE second consecutive win for the bear how about you I think it's going to win I think it's it's continued to be a very popular show um the third season which premiered the summer was the least well-received of the three seasons but I still think that momentum from the awards Juggernaut it became last year and then you know that proved to continue to be true not just for the emmies but for the Golden Globes which actually happened a little bit before the EMS but then you know C's choice and then sag it did very well and I think that it's still going to pull it out I do think if the creative arts um um shows to be big on Hacks I wouldn't entirely rule it out but I think that this is a pretty um I think the bear is likely gonna win this again even like when it looked as though Abid Elementary couple years ago was GNA challenge Ted lasso Ted lasso still pulled off a second consecutive Emy win for comedy series I think that that's going to be true for the bear well yeah it definitely looks likely the Bears also expected to repeat again in lead actor a comedy series for Jeremy Allen wh and supporting actor in a comedy series forun Moss back right do you agree definitely um and I think that you know in the worst case scenario let's just say the bear completely crashes on the main telecast and loses everything you can guarantee that Jeremy Allen is going to win comedy lead actor easily again like there's there's no way he's not winning and when he actually I think in my opinion had an even better season in season two than he did in season one and he swept all the winter precursors I don't see any of these other five um being a potential spoiler because you know the Martins are always going to split Larry David you know they don't really like you know giving it to people for playing themselves um and then you know for the others I think that yeah Matt bar Matt Barry and D Wai I think that the nomination is their prize uh but yeah there's no stopping Jeremy Jeremy Allen White it's this is one of the easiest calls of the night and then for every Mon's backrack same thing um I think that you know he benefits from the fact that there's just not like a huge viable alternative I mean maybe you could say Paul W Downs who I think had his best season yet on hacks and so you know that's a sliver of a chance but I think it's highly unlikely I think Evan Moss backrack kind of has this one okay and I guess that kind of Segways to another potential easy category outstanding lead actress in the comedy series and Jean Smart won this award for the first two seasons and obviously the show took kind ha this last year because of all the Hollywood strikes coupled with Jean Smart surgery luckily came back this season and she's expected to go three for three on this show and I know ad Dey may have won supporting for the first season of the bear last year and she's in lead for the second season this time but no I have a hard time seeing smarts lose this the smart money's on her that's a good one uh yes I agree with everything you said um I feel really good about this one because something I should I I should point out she wouldn't just be going three for three for hacks she'd be going six for six in comedy because um she's actually every time she won it was when she was up for a comedic role and so you know cu she has two Em's for fre her guest spot on Frasier and then she won commi supporting actress for Samantha Who a while back um and now that this is I think definitely the most acclaimed role of her career she's won twice already um I think for Io I think she would have an easier time if she had stayed in supporting and to be fair you know she did sweep the winter precursors um but the she's not I think what hurts her is that she's not in every episode of season two so it's interesting that they upgraded her to lead but she's not but she has less screen time compared to season one almost and I think that that and the fact that Jean Smart's role is just juicier in general um and you could also say it it is more of a comedic role you could make that case but I think that you know I also think that the bear sweep last year hurts it this year I think it would be very very unprecedented if it did a clean sweep two years in a row and I think that you know hacks did come back in a very strong way you know um previous season got 17 nominations this season got 16 and and that's probably it got one less probably just because there were less guest actors eligible to be nominated this year so I think that given that the show is still proven to be a hit with the TV Academy this is an easy place I think where the actor branch is going to want to award hacks yes and of course we should add last year's winner in this category quo bson for ad elementary is third place in the odds but I don't see her winning for for the second year in row I think her win last year was just been benefit from the absence of smart yes and just the competition just wasn't that strong in her category and so not saying this be disrespectful of Brunson but I think if you kind of look at that lineup she kind of won by default and you know maybe without Smart there she was seen as you know wanting to be given an IOU for probably being the runner-up actually I would say almost certainly being the runner up to Jean Smart uh for when Jean Smart won the second time so I think IO is the only one with a small chance and then I think the others um have no chance at all including the ironically the reigning champion in this category now onto outstanding supporting actress in the comedy series okay it has three Legends in contention Merill Street for only murders in the building Carol Bernett for pal Royale and I guess you can even add Charlie Lee Ralph in that category for Abid Elementry but Hannah IR binders currently expected to win this for it's her third nomination for hex and it'd be her first win do you think third time will be the Trump for her I think so I think when you uh look at the field um I would say that you know the Buzz for Abid Elementary um seems to be dying a little bit at least in terms of you know winds like it's still probably G to keep showing up for a little while with the nominations but I don't see um Shirley Ralph or Janelle James pulling it off um Carol Bernett she's Carol Carol Bernette she's she sorry that that was a tongue tie she's Carol you what you can say about Carol brunette she's she's Carol brunette and so she's a legend they see your name on a ballot and you know I mean obviously I hav't watch pal Royale yet I don't know how good her performance is but I think she's an easy name check but I don't really given that Palm Royale didn't explode with acting nominations for its first season just got you know the couple for her and Kristen wig I don't see her being a threat I know some people were talking about lizen Cole and Z as like what if the bear gets on a sweep her role is not that significant um in season two I mean she has some you know good moments you know and the nomination is okay but I I kind of find surprising that she got in and Abby Elliott did not who had much more to do so really like what I would compare even though um I'm predicting the be to win comedy series if I was to make a comparison I would say Li Liza coen's eyes is kind of like the J Smith Cameron of this category because Jay Smith Cameron just never really had like even though she was good on on succession she never really had that winning material and so it just was it just was she she never um in season 4 in particular did enough to like you know get caught up in a succession sweep and I think that the same is gonna be true now I think if anyone can take down a had I'm binder it's probably going to be Merl Streep uh Merl stre did win the critic's choice now now I don't put too much stock in critic's Choice uh but still you know it's something and you know she's Merill stre and she has multiple enemies and so I think if anyone can take down Hannah Ein binder it's Merill but I think that things lined up very very well for Ein binder this year to third time will be the charm for her yeah plus unlike Co and Zas Ein binder's role is actually funny and and yeah and and you know her you know a lot of people have a complaint that she's a co-lead on the show um but often that helps you if you're like you're like the secondary lead being uh thrown into supporting that often has helped people certainly at the Oscars oh yeah yeah I think that the fact that um yeah because I binder was never beating Hannah winingham for season one I know people were talking about that but that was never happening hna wadham had that all all season long and then Abdel was just the hot new show at the time and so that was a key reason why it was Shirley Ralph who who um prevailed but I think that this time I just don't think that the competition is strong there's not like an obvious like there's not like a oh this person's like a serious serious threat to iron binder it's like she has a buzz like oh but have you seen this person's performance but I would just say that you know I would I'm predicting I'm binder but I think that Streep has some chance of winning but I feel pretty good about sticking with Ein binder and then some of the people who are talking about um Coen Zia um getting on a sweep I don't buy that for one minute yeah those are all great points so now on toing directing and a comedy series where there are two episodes of the baring contention fishes and honeydew and Fishes is our front to win do you think it'll overcome a vote split oh easily I think that this one fishes is just an incredible achievement of directing like the way that that episode was shot the way that you know it was all put together it's a phenomenal phenomenal EP TV episode like in Modern Times And honeydew was a good episode I just don't think that there's anything about the direction that really stands out about it but I think that this is um this is I think going to be an easy pickup for the bear but for fish okay yeah although if they do split I guess we should look out for the hack episode bulletproof to pull a surprise but yeah I do you do make great points as to why fishes will probably stand out from honeydew right because because oftentimes you know directing I think if it's two you the chances are you can overcome a vote split um with the exception of succession this past year it was almost a death nail to have three episodes you know that's why you know Watchmen lost that's why succession lost for season three that's the reason why um people versus OJ Simpson versus OJ Simpson yes that's who I was drawing a blank on uh who else had three episodes and then lost directing because of oh Game of Thrones Game of Thrones for 2019 I should know because I wrote the article recently for gold Derby about Jason Batman's shocking win and that was that was a key part was because there were three Game of Thrones episodes in there uh two of them were going to get a lot of votes um and that made the way for bit to squeak in but yeah no I I don't think that this is a category where like vote splitting is going to be an issue now on to outstanding ring and comedy series where the bear episode fishes is out front to win and in second place according to Gold der odds is the hex episode bulletproof season one episode did pull a surprise here but you know I was a sure about comedy writers but do you agree with the odds that the bar will win this I'm actually going to go on on a small limb not a huge one but a small one I think Hax is going to win this one it had its most Acclaim season yet according to Metacritic as I mentioned earlier came back very strong uh with nominations and I think that the bear episode fishes is seem more as a fantastic directorial achievement more than a fantastic writing achievement I mean obviously like the writing is very good and it's it's a you know a great episode but I just think that um I think that hack is stronger in a lot of categories that than people are giving it credit for and I think that this is a category where we could see it um it pop up and so I want to take a risk or two and I kind of see this one being one where it could pull off a win well it's certainly possible because as I mentioned earlier it did pull off a surprise win this category for the first season and again it's a show about comedy writers yeah I don't think it was that much of a surprise to win comedy writers I think it was just on the bubble I think it was just a question of you know like do the the two Ted Ted lasso episodes cancel each other out and um and but some other people are saying it might not have been that it may have been that you know hack as you said was a show about comedy writing or is a show about comedy writing and I think that you know when even though Ted was um inevitably going to win that comedy series award you know Hax was the show that the TV Academy was the second most passionate about that year and so could very well be wrong on this but I it just kind of makes sense to you know if I'm going to try to call an upset or two that this is a place to um or maybe anticipate a surprise well if hack and the bear split between these past six categories there should be interesting to see if x could pull surprising comedy series yeah and some people have floated that um I don't entirely rule it out I want to see how the creative arts are going to do this weekend you know I I I would say like I think if hack wins casting over the weekend then you got to watch out for it to win comedy series cuz for several years with the exception of Abid Elementary uh what one comedy casting one comedy series when it's gone hand inand for a very long time and especially since the new voting system according to the combined odds and gold Derby baby reindeer is offering to win limited series against True Detective night country Fargo Ripley and lessons in chemistry do you agree yes I do I I'm a little bit skeptical about baby reindeer pulling off a sweep but I do think that it is going to win uh this category it is the most talked about show of these five nominees I think that you know the word that I was uh listening to a lot of people say about uh baby reindeer is that it's become a cultural phenomenon uh since it premiered and it's just you know the buzz has been so huge since the spring it hasn't really died down yet I think that this is pretty easy even though True Detective um is the most nominated uh show of these five I think that you know True Detective might have a chance of some other categories but I think that this is pretty safe for baby reindeer all right and I guess we should get to one category where maybe True Detective could win and that's outstanding directing in an TV movie or limited series where the fourth episode of baby reindeers out front to win and while I can see that happening well something worth keeping in mind is that whenever a limited series is nominated in this category for every single episode is because it had one director the whole time whereas baby reindeer didn't have the same director on every episode and so narrowing it down two of its competitors here True Detective n Country and Ripley they're both nominated for the whole show because they had the same director the whole time so what do you make of this category it's a really good question I think that this is I think between directing and writing this is probably the one that's a little bit more competitive um I was listening to some compelling cases for True Detective to potentially win this maybe it was possible for Ripley to pull off a win here I think it's the safe bet is to um pick baby reindeer for directing but I think it's safer in another category that we're going to talk about a little bit but yeah I I think I'm gonna go with baby reindeer to be safe maybe this is another category well go I'll go on a Lim for something but I should point out that I went out on a Lim for two categories last year at the Emmys and I got them both wrong so but yeah I think it's like last year I was I was thinking you know you got to win try to call some long shots to win this but you know unfortunately the two that I went out onm for uh the front runner won actually pretty much everyone who was the front runner on gold Derby won at the ammies it was it was that uneventful but yeah I'm gonna stick with baby reindeer for now I may think this through over the weekend and all next week and maybe I'll maybe I'll try to call an upset but I doubt it you know it wouldn't surprise me if I end up predicting True Detective night country given that well number of people are thinking well again from prediction standpoint thinking it's number two to a baby reinder limited series but yeah again if that stat still stands like never be against that stat again yeah definitely now onto a category where it's arguably easier for True Detective night country to win and that's outstanding lead actress no limited series or movie where Jody Foster is out front to win having seen that whole season myself I do think is among some of the very best work she's ever done and well she'd once again be winning major awards for playing a police detective or or or investigator I should add so do you agree I think she's gonna win you know I think that what's helping her is that there's not a obvious alternative in this category I think for you know for people who are not going to vote for Jody Foster I think that you know a lot of the other nominees are you know probably going to get some votes and you know it's it's not like you know we can't talk about the possibility of any of these other four I mean you could make a case for any of them uh but just kind of going through this list um Brie Larson um I think the Buzz for leses and chemistry has kind of died off um since it premiered a while back and that and that kind of showed with the nominations because it's argued that it kind of underperformed a little bit um and same I think you could say for Juno Temple uh because um you Fargo was expected to get a lot more supporting nominations than it did and when it didn't um I think that that was a ass signed that like maybe they're not as hot they're not as hot on Fargo as you know maybe we thought they would be um Sophia varara um some people have talked about that possibility I I can't predict it um I've heard she's really good on that show she you know you could say that you know given that she never won for Modern Family maybe it might be her time especially for what's supposed to be a very transformative role um but the person I actually have in second place and I actually wrote an article for gold derby um about this cuz I just saw a lot in her favor and I just thought you know what that'd be fun to write about and post on gold Derby to kind of you know stir the pot you know make things not boring for readers and I actually have Nai watts in second and the reason why I have her in second was because Feud um capot versus swans got the most acting nominations of all the shows in this category um yes because Fargo True Detective and lons of chemistry got three few versus swans got four and Naomi Watts like jod Foster is a movie star and they love movie stars in this category you know Kate Winslet um Amanda cyred Michelle Williams um just just to name a couple examples Oh Nicole Kidman of course yeah no movie stars do very well in this category um but yeah I just think that um I was talking with um Chris sang who I've appeared on um two gold Derby segments with I was asking about this C is like do you think Foster has this and he said yeah who who else would win it so I think that because she's jod Foster um you know she has a lot of Awards in her cabinet but anemy is one that she has not won yet and so I kind of think that you know that's going to play a role a role in like pushing over the Finish Line yes now on to outstanding lead actor in a limited series or movie where baby reindeers expected to take this one for its star and Creator Richard gz I mean again not to give too much white out C we'll talk about a little later but yeah it looks like he might just pull Phoebe Waller bridge and win pretty much every category he'll be nominated in for a show he started and created yes um I I I am predicting him I have thought about this I don't think he's as safe here as he is in the other category that we're going to talk about in a little bit you know because but yeah the question is like could it be a Phoebe Waller Bridge or could he be a Mya Cole or Michaela colea Cole my bad I pronounced it like Patrick Stewart pronounced it for some reason when he when he presented the Emy um right but anyway um yeah I I do think that some others have a you know some chance um I actually would say not Matt Bower because I think fellow Travelers is actually stronger in another category um and given that Miss series I don't see it win I'm not going to predict it for you know more than one acting award um Fargo underperformed I think that you know that kind of takes John Ham out of it and then um Tom Hollander um I wish capot you know few capot versus swans have gotten that series domination because I would have been very tempted to predict him I know Marcus James Dixon is uh predicting Tom Hollander to win um you know he wrote an article about it he also um reiterated it on the gold Derby segment that he did um recently with um Ray Richmond Denton Davidson Daniel Montgomery um but yeah Andrew Scott Maybe a bigger Contender uh than some of us realized and he had some Buzz very very early on in the season uh Ripley did well enough to where I think that you know it's plausible he could win but I think that Richard Gad is the safe bet and so I think that you know I'm gonna predict him in the end well yeah I great I think that sounds like a safe bet now onto standing supporting actress in The Limited series or movie where get coer just gunning his out front to win for baby reindeer even though I haven't made my predictions yet I do think it's Poss well she can win do you agree from everything I know and from everything I've seen this is I think one of the safest bets of the night I think if she was in lead she would be winning um but yeah a lot of people think she should have been in that category but she's in supporting I don't think any of these others pose a threat to her I think that this is an easy call for just Jessica gunning now on to outstanding supporting actor in a limited series or movie now as you alluded to earlier you think there's another category that fellow Travelers could win that isn't lead actor and that would be Jonathan Bailey who is our out front to win according to Gold Derby's odds he did win the critic's choice earlier this year well you know before nominations were announced people were were wondering if Robert Downey Jr could win for the sympathizer especially coming off his Oscar win this past year for Oppenheimer but I don't believe his show has really any other nominations where a Bailey even though fellow Travelers ding into limited series The Show still got you know plenty enough nominations and plus it'd be similar to you know Paul Walter Hower last year where even though blackbird dingan to limited series you know he still managed to have strong enough Buzz to get him over the Finish Line yes so I have Jonathan Bailey but I think that out of um all the gold Derby odd listings of the Front Runners I think that Jonathan bitley is one of the more vulnerable people to lose um but he won critic's Choice um and so he does he has won something um I think that the show getting in for both him and Matt bmer I think is a good sign um and um Robert Dyan Jr I don't think it's impossible that he can win it um because Mark Ruffalo um was the only nominee for I know this much is true and he's still won and Robert Dyan Jr is an icon and he's you know he's a respected not just a respected movie star but he's a respected actor as well um and and all that was a big reason why he wanton his osar and in a sympathizer he's playing multiple characters just like Mark Ruffalo did and I know this much is true so I don't think he's entirely out of the question it's just very hard to bet when he was the only nominee for the sympathizer and so it's just it's just it's too it is like you know the fact that he was the favorite and then the show basically tanked aside from him um I think that um that's going to um I think that um Jonathan Bailey is um probably going to win it in the end but it's interesting you know a lot of these people's other shows have done better but they just haven't really made that much noise in terms of like people like oh my God like this person could win um it really has just been those two that people are talking about and so I just I think at the end of the day it's gonna be either Jonathan Bailey or Robert Daran Jr yeah although I guess now watch Tom Goodman Hill pull off a surpris as part of a potential sweep her baby reindeer that's actually yeah that's maybe the only other possibility that I think of is that baby Raider gets on a clean sweep uh and you know sweeps have often happened in limited like um the White Lotus a few years ago so yeah no if baby reindeer is going to be the show to do a clean sweep um then yeah then watch out for him although well I guess one more point to add about ruffalo's win I think he arguably benefited from I guess not having a clear alternative who could have potentially overthrown him right but there was a lot of Buzz for um Paul mcow and there was um you know some talk about Hugh Jackman doing it I it was interesting you know even though Watchman was like the Far and Away front runner you know Jeremy iron just never really got that talk of like he could win Jeremy Pope he was just lucky to be in that category but um but yeah I still contend that Russell Crow deserved a nomination if not a win for the LA's voice the fact that he wasn't nominated altogether I think was absolutely absurd anyway I guess now on to outstanding writing in the limited series or movie where Richard get is once again friend to win for baby reindeer he wrote every single episode and yeah again to my point earlier about him possibly pulling a phoeb bridge I think this might be an easy category for him to Prevail in I think he's much much safer here than he is in limited series lead actor yeah I think that he's easily taking this the fact that baby rer is the overwhelming front runner to win limited series I think that it is absolutely going to take writing now onto the drama series categories where interestingly enough one of the nominees here show gone was well many early un expected to compete in the limited series categories but it's getting a second season so it's competing as a drama series where good thing there because it is currently off friend to win a number of categories including Outstanding Drama Series do you think it'll win no I actually think the morning Show's winning kidding no it's Shogun it's Shogun I was about to say yeah I I I had some I just thought that'd be funny Shogun um I think is very easily going to take this it also benefits from the fact that like you know there's not a clear alternative I would have said that the crown would have had a chance even if people liked the final season of the crown which which I did I enjoyed the final season people are not as enthusiastic about it as they were for say season 4 when it completely swept I kind of feel like that's when it peaked and then you know season five and season six kind of looked just good when compared to season 4 I don't think that it's going to contend against Shogun this is I think this is probably actually the easiest of the three series categories even though they're all fairly easy I think this is the easiest to call of the three uh series categories now outstanding lead actress in the drama series now what's interesting is that first season of the crown claro was nominated for playing Queen Elizabeth II Lost to Elizabeth Moss for the h taale the following year Elizabeth Moss was expected to repeat yet Clair voy won for her final season as a regular season 3 well Olivia Coleman was nominated for her first year as Queen but seconds Bost is in day for Euphoria the following year Emma corn was expected to win for playing Princess Diana yet lost an upset to Olivia Coleman for her final year as a regular on the show and so last year amilda ston was expected to at least get nominated for her first Year's Queen Elizabeth II but what was snubbed she did make the cut this year but Anna saai is expected to Prevail for Shogun as part of a potential sweep for that show so do you think Anna will win yes and I think that this is the safest of the main acting categories for Shogun um I for those reasons that you listed about Mill stun I'm not going to entirely count her out but the reason why I can't predict that is because she was never singled out at sack you know Clare Foy Olivia Coleman always got individual nominations for the crown she never did and she didn't get in um you know at the Emmys last year U now obviously like there people from the crown that have overcome that like Conor and Tobias men but this is I think a different situation given that ail Danton is like the lead of the crown and so I have her in second but I think soai is safe I did see Pete Hammond um or I did listen to Pete Hammond's podcast and he actually thinks Jennifer Anderson's gonna win but I don't buy that to be honest and he was he was citing the fact that the morning show got 10 acting nominations uh but then again so did the hmates taale for season 4 and that and that season went completely empty-handed I think that this is going to be a pretty easy win for anosa yeah plus I feel like if Aniston were to win I feel like we should have seen signs of that in recent months or so yeah I I I just I don't think that Jennifer Anon is going to pose a threat I think that this is um I would say Anna Hawai I'm gonna give her an 85% chance of winning this now on to outstanding lead actor in a drama series a category that a lot of the time lately has gone to the start of either a first year sh a final year show and this year it's expected to go to someone in a firste show hire Yuki Sonata for Shogun do you think that will happen I think so but I don't think he's as safe as or or he he's not as strong in this category as annaa is in hers I think that you know I've been listening to obviously gold Derby listening to Joy s and Chris rosen's um segments and Chris Rosen has kind of made the case for Gary Oldman to where I'm like yeah no that that does kind of makes sense and I could see Gary winning it you know keep in mind like you know Gary om man is like absolutely revered by other actors and they're the ones doing the voting so horses did have a good showing in terms of acting nominations and maybe if they don't want to give Shogun everything that this is a place where they could um vote for someone else and I think that um I don't really buy the others um I don't see uh Donald Glover winning um Dominic West you know if the crowns last season were more acclaimed like I'm not saying that the last season the crown wasn't liked but if it if people were like more enthusiastic about it I would say watch out for him but I think that the nomination is as far as it's going to go for him then Walter goggin and erra SBA you know they're the nominations their prize they're not threats at all but yeah at the at the end of the day I I am G to stick with h Yuki Sonata yeah I think that it's just I think that if you know maybe it's possible that Shogun performs similar to beef where you know the the leads win but maybe supporting a different story I think that that could be true for this now on to outstanding supporting actress in The Drama Series where Elizabeth the Bei is expected to win following her prizes at Golden Globes in Critics Choice for the crown and you know even those who didn't love the final season still loved her performance as Princess Diana do you think she'll Prevail I think that the is one of the biggest locks of the night to be honest and I think that um I think what officially made her a lock was that surprise saguin because Sarah snook I mean I mean Elizabeth biki had to go up against Sarah snook and and succession was just steamrolling all the award shows and you know the Emmys the Golden Globes Critics Choice and then you know Elizabeth bigy was winning and supporting but then you know at sag they combin um lead and supporting um performances into one category so the fact that Elizabeth toiki beat Sarah snook that was huge and the fact that she's only in four episodes well like a small little appearance and in a later episode but given that she's really only in really only in four episodes that's really huge to win sag and you know she won the globe she won critic's Choice um and yeah like looking at the rest of this lineup um as I said I actually wrote the article recently for gold Derby where I um wrote five reasons why Elizabeth to bigy was going to win and my final point I me was I really don't just there's really no one who can challenge her I mean Christin Christine baransky continues to get nominated she's well-liked but that show and her performance hasn't really generated the buzz that would kind of signal that like she's in an upset position um the morning show has four people nominated but given that one isn't tout as the obvious standout I don't think that one can emerge from the pack and win then as for Leslie Manville even though she's fantastic in um her final episode on the show um aside from that episode she's really not as front and center whenever she's on screen the way Elizabeth tocki is yeah and like the RO is just not as juicy as Elizabeth dicki so I just think that even if you you were concerned about you know the potential of tocki and Leslie Manville splitting if Jillian Anderson didn't lose for being in the exact same situation as Elizabeth to bicki winning the globe CS St and sag having you know a co-star or in Jillian Anderson's case two co-stars and then a lot of nominees from one show and then one nominee from being the only nominee from the show in the category if that didn't hurt Jillian Anderson it's not going to hurt Elizabeth Bicky yeah no this is the one this is I think one of the Best Bets of the night yeah great I mean bransky may be the only nominee here who's not up against the co-star but I mean I think it's more likely that the four Morning Show Ladies splits yeah and so it really just looks like when it was uh three from the the crown Po from the handmade's tail and Anu Ellis three years ago and we saw that you know votes playing did not happen and and it was almost certainly not going to happen I think that the same Rings true for uh this one I think I think toiki has this in the back now on to probably a bit of a tougher category outstanding supporting actor in The Drama Series where Billy crudup is currently up front to win for the morning show he previously won for the first season a few years ago do you have Billy winning or someone else I have him winning but this is one of the categories where I'm the least confident um just like with um Jonathan Bailey and Lona series supporting actor I really excuse me I really I don't feel confident about this because I mean you know he did win for season two and really the only person in the popular vote system who's won an Emy lost an Emy for The Following Season then won again for the season after that was Peter Dinklage um because he won for season five he lost for season six and then he came back and won for season seven and eight so maybe Billy win still wins this um um but I think that the person who might be in a position to potentially win aside from him is tadanobu asano and you know and if he wins then Shogun could be the show that just pulls off a clean sweep Maya strong supporting actress of course given that it's you know there's no one for Shogun in the category uh the other the other person that some people have talked about as a potential upset that I mean maybe I don't know um maybe maybe don't entirely count out was Jack Lowden some people some people discuss that I think I forget if he still has him but I know um Rob luua was predicting that at one point um but I have to double check to see if he's still predicting him that' be interesting because lowden's currently only above Mark D Plus in the odds that seems unlikely so I'm going to stick with Billy crudup for now I think that you know the fact that the Bing show came back and you know got 10 Emmy nominations in the acting categories um and it's finally up for drama series maybe this is the place you know if voters really like to show that they can vote for it it's kind of a placeholder for now but I gotta I gotta really think this through before the 15th well I will say that well I can see myself predicting aanu be given like as you said it could be possible you know Shan gets on a huge sweep and even though he's up against teiro Hera in this category well again I think more have been labeling asano as the standouts of the supporting men in the show yeah definitely for outstanding directing in a drama series the season finale of Shogun Crimson sky is our front to win do you agree with that yes and I think that um given that you know season finales tend to do very well in this category in terms of winning the directing prize I think that um this is I think gonna be a pretty easy pickup for Shogun and and it was yeah and it was the most talked about episode of the season and so yeah I think that it's um I think it's gonna win now for outstanding writing in the drama series there are two Shogun episodes in contention yet Crimson Sky also out front to win this one do you think it'll overcome vote splitting I think so for pretty much the same thing I said about um Shogun for directing I think that Rings true in writing as well yeah Shogun is going to win and it's going to win for the the standout episode between the two so great being on the podcast as always and um yeah last year was very very predictable in terms of um the outcomes so hopefully we'll get a couple surprises here and there um but yeah I think that um it should make for an interesting night thanks again for joining me today Jack you're you're so welcome yes and would you mind telling those listening where they can find you on the internet absolutely so I have my Instagram and my Facebook handle it's just under my name Jack mahines um I have my gold Derby page uh that's um now currently have 11 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