your new boss Trump is a little upset at Mike Pence because Mike Pence refused to uh overturn in the election results and um if you were in that same position what would you do would you have overturned the election results well I think it's let me take issue with the premise a little bit Jason because I don't think the argument was Mike Pence could overturn the election results I think the argument was that Mike Pence could have done more whether you agree or disagree Mike Pence could have done more to sort of surf some of problems certif election would you have not certified the El well I I think that what I would have done I mean look I I I happen to think that there were issues back in 2020 particularly in Pennsylvania even you know some of the courts that refused to throw out certified ballots did say that there were ballots that were cast in an illegal way they just refused to actually decertify the election results in Pennsylvania do I think that we could have had a much more rational conversation about how to ensure that only legal ballots are cast yes and do I think that Mike Pence could have played a better role yes but I again the the the two premises that I take issue one is one pence was not asked to overturn the election he couldn't have but two the reason was asked to not certify it sure um so would you have certified it last year for the third again I I would have asked the states to submit alternative slates of electors and let the country have the debate about what actually matters and what kind of an election that we had would have cerates to be clear I would have asked the states to submit alternative slate to that's that's what I would