WELCOME BACK TO DETROIT SPORTS PLUS ALONG WITH DEREK BENN AND KEN I AM HOBBY GUYS. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THAT PLAYOFF GAME EARLIER. THAT JUST HOW THAT WAS SUCH A RELIEF FOR NOT ONLY THIS TEAM BUT THIS FAN BASE LIKE 30 YEARS OF NOT BEING ABLE TO DO IT FINALLY HAPPENING. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THAT ATMOSPHERE TO BE LIKE ON SUNDAY? THIS TIME AROUND? NOT AS MUCH AT STAKE, BUT BUT STILL. I MEAN, THIS COULD BE THE START OF SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR PEOPLE. >> I EXPECT IT TO BE RIDICULOUS. I MEAN, SURE, IT'S NOT A PLAYOFF GAME, SO THERE'S NOT AS MUCH AT STAKE, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN EIGHT MONTHS OF LIKE PENT UP EXCITEMENT FOR LIONS FANS, TOO, SO THAT 30 YEARS OF FRUSTRATION. >> YEAH, WELL, THERE'S STILL HOW DOES THAT COUNTER I THINK SOME OF THAT IS STILL SPILLING OUT. >> I MEAN, ONE SEASON ISN'T ENOUGH TO GET IT ALL OUT RIGHT? SO YEAH, I EXPECT IT TO BE CLOSE TO AS AS INCREDIBLE. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EXACTLY LIKE IT WAS DURING THE PLAYOFF GAME. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE LIKE THE TAMPA BAY GAME, WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY LOUD. BUT YOU KNOW, THE TAMPA BAY GAME, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A FALL OFF THERE. AND I THINK COMPARED TO THE FIRST TIME THESE TWO TEAMS MET, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING TO KIND OF MATCH, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S STILL GOING TO BE INSANE. BUT I JUST THERE WAS JUST SO MUCH AT STAKE FOR THAT FOR THAT FIRST MEETING IN THE PLAYOFFS. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO QUITE GET TO THAT LEVEL. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE. >> YEAH, IT'S HARD TO IT'S HARD TO RECREATE THAT. THAT EXPERIENCE. IT'S JUST IT'S NOT REALISTIC. BUT FORD FIELD IS GOING TO BE A TOP TIER HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE THIS YEAR NO MATTER WHAT. IT'S GOING TO BE ROCKING. I MEAN, EVEN WHEN THE LIONS WEREN'T THAT GOOD, IT WAS STILL PRETTY LOUD IN THERE. NOW IT'S GOING TO BE SOLD OUT STANDING ROOM ONLY LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A PLACE WHERE OPPOSING TEAMS ARE NOT GOING TO WANT TO PLAY. YOU HEAR THAT? >> LIONS FANS KEN AND BEN DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN GET AS LOUD AS YOU WERE. SO. SO LET'S SHOW THEM. >> SO IF IT WAS AN 11 LAST YEAR IN THAT PLAYOFF GAME, WE'RE GOING TO BE AT LIKE 9.9 11 OH. WE'RE STAYING AT 11.6. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW TEN AND A HALF. >> YEAH. >> THERE'S JUST SOMETHING ABOUT THE OPENER. I THINK IT BRINGS SOMETHING OUT. JUST LIKE THAT, THAT EMOTION OF A PLAYOFF GAME. IT'S NOT THAT YOU JUST CAN'T YOU CAN'T FAKE THAT. IT'S TOO MUCH. >> WELL THE LIONS ARE FAVORITES GOING INTO THIS GAME AS THEY OPEN UP THE SEASON. BUT HERE ARE SOME OTHER PROP BETS THAT CAN RESEARCHED FOR US. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THEM. YOU'VE YOU HAD LIKE THE TEST AHEAD OF TIME. SO WE'LL START WITH YOU. JAHMYR GIBBS OVER UNDER 54.5 RUSHING YARDS OVER HOBBY. >> YEAH, I'M GOING OVER. I THINK HE BREAKS 100. >> I'M GOING UNDER. I'D RATHER TAKE TOTAL YARDS BECAUSE I THINK HE'LL HE'LL HAVE A LOT OF RECEIVING YARDS. >> I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE. AND ALSO LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT DAVID MONTGOMERY. DAVID MONTGOMERY WAS AN ABSOLUTE BEAST LAST SEASON FOR THIS TEAM. I THINK IF THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THE BALL, HE IS GOING TO BE THE PRIMARY GUY TO DO IT. YEAH, I AGREE, BARRING HIM COMING OUT FOR LIKE SOME AILMENT, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY JAHMYR GIBBS GETS OVER THAT OR GIBBS CAN. >> GIBBS IS YOU KNOW, LIABLE TO BREAK ONE. HE COULD GET IT. HE CAN. HE COULD GET IT IN 1 OR 2 RUNS. >> SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK GIBBS GETS A BIG CHUNK PLAYS. I THINK HE BREAKS A COUPLE. 25, 30 YARDS MULTIPLE TIMES. AND I THINK THAT'S HOW HE GETS TO 100. >> AND THAT'S WHY THEY PLAY THE GAMES JUST FOR THIS TYPE OF STUFF. HERE WE GO. NEXT ONE UP AMON-RA SAINT BROWN OVER UNDER 8G OVER I DON'T I DON'T BET AGAINST THE MONROE SAINT BROWN. >> NO. YEAH. NO. >> IS THAT A CLEAN SWEEP RIGHT. I DON'T CARE WHAT THE NUMBER IS. >> IT'S OVER. >> YOU GOT TO GO OVER. HE'S HE'S JUST ONE OF THOSE GUYS YOU ALWAYS HIT OVER. IT'S LIKE TYREEK WHATEVER WHATEVER TYREEK HILL PROP IS YOU JUST HIT IT. >> ALTHOUGH WE SHOULD ALL SAY UNDER SO THAT HE HEARS IT AND THEN GOES DOUBLES IT RIGHT. THAT'S TRUE. >> YEAH I FEEL LIKE HE SEES THAT NUMBER. AND HE'S LIKE OH I'M GONNA BEAT THAT. >> I THINK HE'S MOTIVATED ENOUGH I DON'T THINK HE NEEDS US TO DO IT. NEXT ONE UP. SPEAKING OF RECEIVERS, PUKA NACUA OVER UNDER 73.5 RECEIVING YARDS. >> WHAT A TESTAMENT TO THE TO THE LIONS DEFENSE. >> THAT'S LIKE WHAT IS THAT. THAT'S THAT'S LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT THEY GAVE. >> 100 YARDS FEWER THAN THE LAST GAME PLAYED. >> SO THIS IS A DISRESPECTFUL NUMBER. AND IT'S CLEARLY OVER OVER FOR SURE WITH TWO ROOKIE QUARTERBACKS. >> PUT THE MORTGAGE ON IT. IT'S AN OVER. >> YEAH. BUT BUT DOES THAT SPEAK TO THE CONFIDENCE THE EXTERNAL FACTORS HAVE IN TERRION ARNOLD IN CARLTON DAVIS AND WHAT THE LIONS WERE ABLE TO DO IN THE OFF SEASON? >> WELL, YES. BUT IT ALSO SPEAKS TO JUST YOU KNOW, THE RAMS. ARE THEY HAVE THEIR FULL ROSTER BACK. IT'S A REGULAR SEASON GAME. THINGS ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE SPREAD OUT IN THE PLAYOFFS. YOU'RE YOU'RE UTILIZING YOUR BEST PLAYERS DOUBLE THAN YOU ARE IN A REGULAR SEASON GAME. >> YEAH. ALSO COOPER KUPP COMING BACK TO THAT COULD BE ANOTHER FACTOR IN THAT ONE. SAM LAPORTA OVER UNDER FIVE AND A HALF CATCHES OVER. >> HE'S SUCH A IMPORTANT PART OF THAT OFFENSE. AND HE WAS HURT WHEN THEY PLAYED IN THE PLAYOFFS AND HE STILL HAD LIKE SIX CATCHES. HE HAD THAT BIG BRACE. >> IT WAS AMAZING. >> YEAH. SO HE'S SUCH A IMPORTANT PART OF THIS OFFENSE. AND, I DON'T SEE THEM NOT GOING TO HIM. I THINK HE'S GOING TO GET HIS TARGETS AND HE'LL HE'LL COME DOWN WITH THEM. >> I DON'T KNOW, BEN. I DON'T THINK SO, BUDDY. THERE'S LOT OF TARGETS TO GO AROUND. I'M GOING TO TAKE THE UNDER. I MEAN, HE MIGHT END UP WITH LIKE 3 OR 4, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF GUYS WHO NEED THE BALL, ESPECIALLY YOUR BOY JAMISON WILLIAMS. SO WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT I THINK I'LL ONLY NEED LIKE THREE CATCHES. >> AND THEN HE'LL HAVE HE'LL HAVE 300 YARDS. >> THAT'S HIS NORMAL. THAT'S HIS NORMAL PLAY CATCH WILL BE AT 99. >> I'M GOING OVER. I THINK A LOT OF THOSE JOSH REYNOLDS BALLS ON THIRD DOWN, THIRD AND SHORT ARE GOING TO GO TO LAPORTA NOW. SO I THINK I THINK HE GOES OVER AND I KNOW HE DIDN'T PRACTICE A LOT IN TRAINING CAMP, BUT A QUARTERBACK'S BEST FRIEND OFTENTIMES IS THE TIGHT END, ESPECIALLY IN WEEK ONE WHEN YOU'RE GETTING TO PLAY AGAINST A RAMS DEFENSE. >> THAT DOES LOOK VERY DIFFERENT ON THE BACK END. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR YOUR SAFETY VALVE AND IT'S GOING TO BE HIM. OR MAYBE JAMMER OUT OF THE BACKFIELD. SPEAKING OF QUARTERBACKS MATTHEW STAFFORD OVER ONE AND A HALF TOUCHDOWNS JARED GOFF OVER ONE AND A HALF TOUCHDOWNS. DO THEY BOTH HIT THE OVER I IF YOU MAKE IF YOU'RE MAKING ME PICK ONE I'M PICKING MATTHEW STAFFORD I THINK THE LIONS SHOWED WHAT THEIR IDENTITY WAS LAST YEAR. >> THEY'RE THEY'RE A RUNNING TEAM FIRST. AND SO I THINK A LOT OF TIMES JARED GOFF LOSES TOUCHDOWNS TO THAT MATT STAFFORD CAME IN AND WAS JUST A GUNSLINGER LAST YEAR I MEAN SO IF YOU IF YOU FORCE ME TO PICK ONE I'D PICK STAFFORD. >> I'M GOING OVER ON BOTH. THEY'RE BOTH PLAYING THEIR FORMER TEAMS. I THINK THEY'RE BOTH LOOKING TO CAPITALIZE AND THROW A COUPLE TOUCHDOWNS. >> YEAH I THINK THEY'RE BOTH LIKELY OVERS. BUT IF YOU HAD TO PICK ONE YOU GOT TO PICK THE THROWING QUARTERBACK. YEAH. >> THE ONE WHO DOES THE THROWING I THINK THEY BOTH GO OVER FINAL ONE OVER UNDER TOTAL POINTS OF 51.5 OVER. >> LIFE'S TOO SHORT TO BET THE UNDER. >> THEY HIT THE UNDER LAST TIME. YEAH. SO THEY'RE OFF GAME. >> YEAH I'M GOING TO GO OVER BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE STAKES AREN'T AS HIGH ON A AS A PLAYOFF ATMOSPHERE, BUT IT IS STILL THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON. SO, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY MIGHT NOT BE AS CRISP, AND I THINK THEY JUST HIT THAT OVER. >> NOTHING WORSE THAN PICKING AN UNDER IN ANY SPORT. GIVE ME THE OVER. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S 100 ROOT FOR PUNTS. >> WHAT ARE WE IOWA. >> YEAH. WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE? >> IOWA. I'M GONNA GO WITH THE OVER, TOO, BECAUSE I THINK LAST YEAR THAT ENTIRE GAME JUST FELT LIKE THEY WERE EACH FEELING EACH OTHER OUT THE ENTIRE TIME, ALL THE WAY UNTIL THE END. WHENEVER AMON-RA GOT THAT FIRST DOWN CATCH TO PUT IT ON ICE. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE EXPECTED THAT VERSION OF THIS GAME TO BE A HIGH SCORING OUTING. I THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO IT THIS. >> I ALSO THINK THERE IS SO MUCH AT STAKE IN THAT GAME WAS SO CLOSE THROUGHOUT THAT IT WAS LIKE, DON'T BE THE ONE TO MAKE THE CATASTROPHIC MISTAKE. SO IT WAS LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE STAYING WITHIN THEMSELVES, HAPPY TO PLAY FIELD POSITION THIS TIME. IT'S LIKE FIRST GAME OF THE SEASON, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE LET IT FLY. >> JUST LIKE IT'S DIFFERENT FOR THE FANS AT FORD FIELD, RIGHT. THE ENERGY IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME FOR THE PLAYERS. SO THAT THAT DEFENSIVE SORT OF YOU KNOW LIKE JUST REALLY HARDCORE PLAYOFF ENERGY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME FOR THEM EITHER. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ALL HUMAN. >> YES WE ARE. YES. I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING CONTRARY TO THAT FINAL ONE. ANOTHER NUMBERS QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS. THIS ONE IS KIND OF OFF THE BOARD RIGHT NOW. BUT I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT EACH ONE OF YOU SAY. WHAT IS YOUR PERCENTAGE CHANCE OF THE LIONS MAKING THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR? NOT WINNING IT, MAKING IT BEING THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE NFC. >> LET'S START WITH BEN 100%. >> BOOM 100% 100%. >> NO EXPLANATION. >> OUR AVERAGES, I'M GOING TO GO 15%. I THINK THE LIONS ARE ONE OF 4 OR 5 TEAMS IN THE NFC THAT ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE THE SUPER BOWL. I THINK THEY'RE UNLIKELY TO HAVE THE ONE SEED, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE SCHEDULE PLAYS OUT AND THE ONE SEED IS A HUMONGOUS VANTAGE, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO A SUPER BOWL, SO I THINK THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS IF THE LIONS ARE GOING TO MAKE THE SUPER BOWL, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH SAN FRANCISCO AGAIN. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THEY'RE GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL THIS SEASON. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE REALISTIC WITH THE NUMBER OF TEAMS AND THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN. SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH 15%. IS IT MORE THAN 15? >> I'LL TAKE THE OVER. I'LL DO 25. YEAH. SAME THING. TOO MANY VARIABLES. YEAH. YOU JUST IT'S THE NFL. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE A SUPER BOWL. >> I SAY THE UNIVERSE OWES US LIONS FANS. ALL RIGHT. IT'S TIM. >> BEN DOESN'T CARE 0%, NO MATTER WHAT. NEITHER ONE OF YOU IS SKEWING HIM. >> YEAH. >> BEN DOESN'T CARE IF GOFF GET HURT. HE DOESN'T CARE OF JOE. DOESN'T CATCH HIM LEADING US TO THE SUPER BOWL. >> YES. WE'RE GOING WE'RE JUST WE'RE DUE. >> LET JAMISON PLAY QUARTERBACK TO THE LIONS ARE ZERO AND NINE IN LIKE LATE OCTOBER. >> AND BEN'S LIKE YOU KNOW I STILL FEEL REALLY GOOD. >> YEAH I'LL GO PLACE A BET THEY CAN RUN THE TABLE I PROMISE YOU. >> STILL MUCH MORE TO COME HERE ON DETROIT SPORTS. PLUS WHEN WE COME BACK WE'RE TALKING SOME COLLEGE FOOTBALL A HUGE GAME AGAINST TEXAS COMING UP FOR THE WOLVERINES. YOU LOOK NERVOUS ALREADY, MY FRIEND. I'M SORRY. WE'LL DISCUSS IT CING UP AFTER THE BREAK