Happy Labor Day! - All-Day Stream

oh [ __ ] all righty here we are hey moose I was about to send it to you um Labor Day holiday open Panel I'll go as long as I can I expected to be here much earlier I I am getting an immense amount of frustration building up in me because I can't figure out how to organize my life so I can [ __ ] stream prioritize streaming when I need to um so I need to work that out and I was looking at YouTube gives you this little this little like graph that shows you when most of your audience is on like when you have your Peak audience hours and it looks like mine is about 9 in the morning my time to about 9: at night my time particularly on Saturdays and Sundays so if I do like 9 to5 um like make it a make it a just show up every day and put in like 8 hours in that window that seems to be where most of my audience is anyway and then on the days when I want to or I'm able to I can let it continue into the evening so that like 9:00 a.m. 900 p.m. window I think is um if I can consistently carve out time just like I would if if I got a 9o5 job right now I would have to do that I'd have to everything else going on my life I would have to plan around the 9 to-5 job so if I start doing with the stream and I tried to do it today and a bunch of Life stuff got in the way and it's harder than it seems like it should be especially if you're ADHD brained like me um it's just juggling a lot of chaos so I let me check see if anything's happening the news on oh wait outrage of at Netanyahu grows Israel protest demand Gaza deal uh Mass protest general strike wow the US snatched um the Venezuela president the one that they say is illegitimate they they took his plane They seized his plane s citing sanction violations I guess all kind of stuff is happening oh good morning sir happy Labor Day hey happy labor day dude uh do you know how to dump uh your audience into another Channel I I do but when I tried when I tried to do it it told me I needed a thousand Subs I subcribers if you could tell me do what if you could tell me I already have the Thousand subscribers oh you I'm trying to dump the audience over here oh okay um [ __ ] let me let me look it up son of a biscuit I'll be back I think it's an option somewhere on the video it's s like maybe one of the three dots at the top or maybe somewhere by the by the chat box there might be an option I think it's somewhere there live redirect that's what it's called all right how to use YouTube live redirect um YouTube Studio let's um you go to customization of the individual video like through YouTube studio um and there's a redirect option there all right I'm I hear you that that channel needs to give you permission I think I have permission because people's rated me before hey Liliana if you can't do it if you need permission just let me know but it should be turned on good morning happy labor day I hope to those of you that are laboring I respect you I appreciate you I admire the I admire are workingclass people like people that I think I like them better than the Leisure Class there's something admirable about people willing to put in effort into something greater than themselves or but um if you are working class if you are laboring I hope it goes well today and your day is a little lighter and if you if this is a day off for for you you're the ones that we celebrate so hats off this is your day so that's the news it looks like a lot of stuff happened exactly yeah I I I grew up working CL like working was normal it was weird if you met someone that just didn't work especially like people like me that struggle to stay employed in the first place working is almost a a a privilege like it's hard it like it's hard for me even when I want to work it's hard for me to have the continued opportunity to do so and so when I get that it's like wow I actually get to work for a change I'm I'm not being kicked out or marginalized or all that kind of stuff oh really uh really yeah I love to work like when I was more busy during in lockdown than probably when I had a real job when we when we had to not work I found more things to do with my time then than when I had a job I don't think I cannot not I don't think I cannot not work but it doesn't labor has such a negative connotation now it doesn't always have to be labor in fact if it if it's actual labor like if it feels like labor you might not be in the right job yeah there's people that demonize us they want us to feel bad like we're participating in something evil just because we're okay with having a job and a decent wage oh I hope that's a joke I'm sure it is hey that oh I thought I had my little Banner on um I don't know what else to talk about I think I might have an AI conversation pulled up or two this this is one of those all day panels so it's going to be kind of that go with the flow whoever shows up thing and then tomorrow I've been looking at some of the Washington State Dei stuff and people were wanting to know more about the those individual trainings like those four training modules and so I have an interview that I found with the guy who developed them and it might give a little more insight and then I found some other stuff from the State website that uh goes a little deeper into the Dei stuff so I'm going to go over all that tomorrow um and actually in fact uh one County I think it was King County which is the the big County that Seattle's in um they had to suspend the Dei training program because it was painting firefighters as racist like white firefighters as racist and everybody uh objected and they had to suspend the program so to I guess the point is it's not this is not my wild imaginings or paranoia that this stuff is going to have a negative impact or has the potential to have a negative impact it it already is they had to suspend the program because when they tried to train the white firefighters they did it so poorly that the firefighters came out thinking that they were telling them that they were all racist which is what it is like the firefighters a right that is what it is so anyway we'll go over all that tomorrow um but today I just wanted it to be more or less light as possible and conversational and fun and holiday like even though it's Labor Day it's a holiday oh yeah AI let me see kangaroo hunting why do I have three entries on kangaroo hunting um I don't really talk to the AI a lot so oh yeah that loneliness in the digital age thing from yesterday oh I don't want to talk about um well it in the US it is I think maybe out Europe um it's Labor Day though hey Daniel brry so like things might be closed today like businesses or Banks or something I don't know but if if that does if you encounter that today it's because it's Labor Day yeah I was thinking about why like what draws me to the panel verse and what keep keeps me here because a lot of these people If This Were Real Life these are not probably people I would spend a lot of time talking to if I even talk to at all like this is not the crowd real life crowd I would gravitate to and if I did they certainly would not it would not be enough to like keep me hanging out with them but the panel verse I'm I'm I'm driven to constantly constantly hang out with people that I would not normally hang out with in real life and I can't seem to stop doing it or break away from it so I was like trying to figure out why is it the Pano verse itself is there something about these people in particular that like I I'm just trying to figure out why like the discrepancy between what my normal life would look like versus what I'm drawn to in the panel verse hey is that what's up man how you doing Happy Labor Day yeah happy Labor Day what the hell is Labor day anyway what is that me I don't know I have think I'm going to find out by the end of today there we go I'm here I'm here welcome welcome sir I tried to uh to redirect but apparently I guess I don't have the feature because I have a strike or something oh that might be cuz I didn't have it either cuz I didn't have enough subscribers it's definitely something that they can lock or unlock I dropped the link and uh told everybody we'd be over here and uh I did my best to promote and and sell it how did the stream go oh beautiful I was uh lot of uh real talk a lot of fake talk a lot of character are you able to tell the difference or you just grow with all of it all of it I can grow through all of it as long as keep I can keep the conversation alive and then I learn learned a lot because uh tck was asking all the right questions you know he kept the conversation going by asking questions and Diving deeper and deeper and trying to get different aspects of my mind and stuff I thought it was amazing wow I mean I I that's probably just about the part that I left but um I Heard part of Paul's conversation and I actually agreed with him I'm like he's everything this guy say right now he's absolutely right oh yeah it's not a it's not something to to make anyone feel B he just he he calls it out like uh if you saw like he was reviewing the stream uh that me and him did like a couple days ago and he was like oh no I didn't see that part he was ripping on me hard like ripping on me oh and I was like yep yep he was right like in every well it's I mean it's it's not very different than the stuff I was telling you but to hear to hear it to hear it phrased in the way Paul was phrasing it um I I think he did a nice job very interesting right very interesting aspect of it and uh the way the way he says it is uh we're noticing the same thing like it's oh yeah definitely hey Dom Gary Baxter good to see you sir it's been a while the horniest YouTuber here I need to I need to put that in my tagline today Jeff where did you get those antl by the way I got these at the Satan store no when I lived in Seattle a couple of blocks from my house I'm not kidding they had this goth store they s like gothic clothing and stuff and they had all the satanic merchandise they had pinag grabs um horns so is that made to fit on the on headphones or is it something you have on your head and in addition to the headphones two separate things that I have on my head at the same time okay that's cool what's the significance of the antlers in h Satanism I mean is it just the paganistic aspect of it or I think they're cool um I don't know if there is a significance because I don't know how many satanists actually use hordes this is kind of my my perspective I think it's because uh the Satanist they like to you know they're like uh elk they like to Buck Up on each other and like rut you know yeah they get that rutting season well Jeff right now is what he's a eight point buck I think is that a eight Star right there or eight I don't know what they they call those things uh but I've actually woken up in the morning when I was in Yellowstone and uh the elk were outside bugling and then you go outside and they got their they got their heads locked together and they got their big old horns and they're bucking up at each other and it's like man it is such a a display of like masculinity like they're they're just like fighting because they're trying to like get a mate you know and it's like I'm the man I'm the man you know what I mean like sometimes they lock horns and they can't get loose and then they both oh and then they both die then they both di it's oh man that's like that's the saddest thing ever that happens a lot on here what locking horns yeah I can think of several pairs that have their horns locked right now yeah people on the pane they get their horns locked and then they they just die out I yeah it is technically I do have some Satan horns some actual um Satan horns but they broke so this is the only pair that survived really I have some ram horns too really like princess Leah's haircut kind of they they yeah they hang off the side and they have a little curl to them well you remember my guy right does it look like this morock no this oh oh right yeah I forgot about hims and he moves around yeah here I'll play it once because it's really annoying but he could be my Amar the tail I don't know if you can see it but I just I love that somebody's brain took the time to even invent that and then design it well how did no what I'm amazed about is who the [ __ ] did you convince to make it you know like like I want to make this skeleton of a of a ram that screams and has lights on it you know yeah if that was me in the office I'd be like what not putting money into that but someone did and then they made money off it because I bought one you know so do you have anything planned today is that or mve I'm gonna make quad Diaz later damn it's easy man all you do is uh well the hard part is getting shredded chicken like I don't know how to shred chicken really and uh so I bought it tear it with your fingers or is there like a chicken Shredder apply there is a chicken Shredder that I've seen but I don't uh I'm not going to buy one you know it's like a something I don't need really but so I just bought it pre-shredded it's like this Jack Daniels barbecue [ __ ] and a box and uh I'm going to put that between two tortillas put some black beans corn um Monterey Jack cheese tomatoes uh bell pepper PE sliced thin onions and then just heat them up in some butter and that's it you got Cas that sounds ambitious it's not it's it's like so simple shows you where my skills are you what what about property crimes what about traffic violations who me no he's victimless crimes that would be a weird Dr what about what about white collar crime like there's there's there are there are laws that I don't want broken that I think is Criminal to break even if there's no particular victim this is like to me they talk about prison politics this is jail house reasoning this is how criminals think this is how people on the other side of the law reason and rationalize things the rest of us want crime prosecuted and and we're not so fussy oh oh it's not a crime unless there's an actual victim so we're going to let this slide it's a big gray area of things that really shouldn't be crime no no get with Society or live live in the wilderness as an outlaw but at least like own what you are and own what you're doing that goes back to Red Dead Redemption that we were talking about the video game you can live outside of society as an outlaw that game is one of the it's a masterpiece it's like a book mixed with a video game mixed with like a painting movie yeah catic mode there's a cinematic mode where you can make it look like you're watching a movie and it's you running around on your horse and doing [ __ ] it's pretty wild amazing and I'm pissed because uh I I couldn't use mine because I left the the disc in the PlayStation and it got cloudy so then I looked up on uh you know the internet what can I do about it and they said clean it with rubbing alcohol I said okay I'll try it and it worked perfectly right right and then the next day now it won't read the disc again so I don't know what the hell's going on but I paid like well they have playthroughs of it on YouTube I might take a look oh yeah you should watch it dude it's so much fun to do it looks really cool I love West it's more fun to play it than it is to watch it but I mean it's just it's it's like you have this freedom to go anywhere you want and it's it's like a miniature version of America you have the South you have the West you have the Northeast uh you have a city that's like New Orleans it's called sand it's called what so sandon yeah instead of New Orleans you know it's but it's basically New Orleans in the in the early days but no it's not just that though if like if you play it uh on the computer there's so much detail like if you shoot a milk carton uh the milk will come out the bottom of the thing if you shoot like you could shoot a uh you could do all kinds of stuff like you could you could I don't know I don't know how to explain look up the uh just Google it Google yeah I was watching looking at the YouTube said this before and this is absolutely a fact you can look it up the hores balls actually shrink in the winter when it's colder and the horses will just be standing in the middle of the town you know like in front you you tie them up to The Saloon or whatever and it'll just take a [ __ ] right in front of you like the horses will randomly just take shits and it's crazy like the detail is unbelievable how 23 minutes in already um BTS BS whatever um we're not hurting a random individual we're not picking like some random individual and hurting them in order for society to be safe we're hurting the people that are hurting society that they're bringing the hurt onto themselves but if it's a victimless crime then then how could it be like like a crime you know you're not hurting anybody how could it be a crime a crime is when you break a law it doesn't necessarily have to be you hurt crime is not hurting someone it's breaking a law like publication hurt anyone right let's just say I'm skateboarding right I used to skateboard at the uh high school and and I was skateboarding on the black top or whatever you know the uh where they play basketball and and the police came and trespassed me because you're not supposed to be there on the weekend you know skateboarding and and they take me to jail or they give me a ticket you think that's right you think that's fair because I'm just skateboarding I'm not harming yeah because because you're not supposed to be there just like at the park where they like closes at 10 p.m. nobody after 10 p.m. and all that stuff yes depends on like you can't just say I'm just going to be here anyway I don't care what the law says what if you get hurt on that property and it's privately owned and now that you suee the owner because you were there after hours and you know and they didn't get rid of you that it's that kind of mentality yeah actually I I would say like be there go after hours but be man enough to own it to take the consequences yep I I knew I wasn't supposed to be here I took the risk it was fun to skate at night you caught me I would respect that more than I think I should be able to do this it's not fair I'm going to do it anyway no I'm just playing Devil's Advocate and saying because there's nobody that was harmed why should there be a punishment for it that's monetary or or why should the punishment like harm the person that uh you know didn't harm anybody because then you won't learn otherwise you it harms the the orderliness that we need for society Jeff is eating again first he had in my breakfast Alo where's the chicken alfredo you had that was yesterday yesterday yesterday all right CU I'm asking him about what he's eat and he says he doesn't know now he's Ching down so today I uh I asked the cook if he could hook me up with a a jalapeno burger oh and uh he was like yeah what time you want it and I was like so he comes up to me and he goes all right it's on top of the pizza uh oven and I'm leaving work and I go and I grab it and I'm like oh [ __ ] this is this is $2 more than a regular burger and I and then I'm like oh man he's tricking me right I open it up and it's got two big old patties it's got bacon on it it's got cheese all over it I was like oh man like he hooked me up fat yeah so that's what I have for lunch there wasn't no chicken alfredo today but maybe tomorrow I can't do those two Burger things though like uh like Burger King you know the Double Whopper and all that I it just it seems like it's too much uh too much beef yeah it's just off it's like I don't know it's hard to eat they had a guy on Survivor that won a reward and he ate a bunch of beef on the reward and they had to medically evacuate it because it messed up his system so bad he had to leave the game well I mean I'm trying to gain weight and so I need to eat extra protein so yeah I I'm purposely forcing myself you're active too yeah I'm trying sounds like you are at least I mean you get out way more than most of us I think I noticed lately when I go vampire hunting at the ice wall at the edge of the Flat Earth the uh they're getting a little quicker than me and I'm starting to lose it you know so I gotta gotta lose some weight man I'm just [ __ ] with you I don't believe in the Flat Earth for the record so you you believe in the uh Turtle Earth no no no no no I think that um it it the scop theory makes sense that people are suspicious that it's a scop but they probably think everything's a scop but how do you get to that level of mistrust where you think basic reality is a scop a production well if you get into simulation Theory and all that you could believe it is that part of it you think is is it is are the same people that are into this part of the simulation crowd I don't know I'm not really sure what you mean by S I mean everything's like a I mean that's what they're saying fckery and illusion you know like existence itself is an illusion like it's not so much the shape of the planet itself it's it's the fact that how do we know how do you know you can trust anything because it could be scop like the moon landing you don't know [ __ ] man unless you were there and did it you don't know I mean I've heard so many stories about Buzz Aldren seeing a UFO how do we know that he even said that it's all Word of Mouth like uh waron Brun on his deathbed he outlined allegedly you know how the the next uh progression of the world was going to go for world wars and things and uh and you know how do we know he said that all we have is the the word of the woman who says she was there how do we know this panel is happening how do we know this panel is not St Ed well I'm completely AI it's just a government AI YouTube could be like we could all be actors hired by YouTube to make people think there's a platform called YouTube that people create content video this could all be a production how have you ever wondered if Cerone is like an FBI plant just to get people to commit crimes or something uh no not until just now I don't know what crimes like what like commit crimes Live on YouTube like threat it looks like they got him to commit more crimes than he got you heard how Andrew has challenged him to a fist fight and he refuses to do it right but they have like a website where people can set up fist fights like with each other tck and monograph were going to do that so I don't think that's illegal like I don't think I think you have to sign an agreement you'd have to sign an agreement or just something yeah it's something like that but it's like they starts saying oh I'd have my gun with me and [ __ ] like that you know he's just a [ __ ] talker I don't take any of the like what this is we're [ __ ] behind a screen like hundreds of miles away from each other like how who even takes that stuff seriously well that's the thing you know because Mike's always threatening to beat women up and beat beat people up on YouTube so that's why I've never he's never done on my stream not on your stream but I've seen him do it you know on others so if you need proof go to YouTube criers and Liars they have a lot of your videos on there they have a lot of yeah I know they made one of me and moose yeah and um you're all over YouTube now man oh God I can only imagine where like PE it's like you see the girls name in high school and all the bathroom stalls yeah yeah for good Gen X Jeff for a good time check out Gen X Jeff yeah sure I'm sure I am everywhere oh you are man I've seen you everywhere and and I'm on a lot of it too because I'm on here a lot so it's like oh yeah and you show up cuz you come you come out early usually and you show up in the little thumbnails that so like all the thumbnails for the videos you a lot of them I don't know man it's not on purpose I go on panels a lot on purpose but you know I'm trying to grow my channel and I'm [ __ ] bored to yeah let me drop it for you oh thank you yeah I almost got 200 subscribers so I'm halfway there maybe are you trying to get monetized sure eventually here help zad out he's halfway there not even tell your friends I just realized it's 250 to be halfway there I'm less than halfway there if you like my Channel or this audience you might like these guys thank you uh je is that your real name Jeff I mean you don't have to answer that but yeah yeah what is going on down in here we're getting the holiday started come up and join us if you want the holiday yeah I'm making holiday case of deers if I knew it was a holiday I would have gotten like hot dogs or something put hey figg happy labor day what's going on down there today so these are all people that are not barbecuing yeah have real life people to hang out with it is 3:00 East Coast so maybe they already did it you know oh right true I got a late start oh I don't know I forgot about those rules I never I never followed them I wear like all black or all dark colors all the time you know it's like a bass player thing cuz Roger Waters used to do it from Pink Floyd but like uh but like I was considering just getting like you know white T-shirt and white jeans and wearing it one day and see what happens just to [ __ ] do the opposite of what I would normally do you know man Jack talcott's live again early oh let's all go over there and just [ __ ] destroy him yo want to y'all y'all want to go and I could stream it from here like we did yesterday do it all right I'll take one for the team I'll be back we see how long he'll be like The Gong Show we'll see how long he lasts who's on it oh he he just started so it'll be a while before he put takes the panel up but he's happy he's like beaming right now so this is a he's too happy and I don't understand that didn't he say he used to be an alcoholic yeah I think so he's awfully happy for someone who used to be a drunk oh was there a correlation yeah usually people are miserable after they stop drinking well he has his miserable side for sure yeah I've seen it I guess like all of us I've seen him get mad at some people he got mad at me because I questioned him I said what are you guys doing besides talking about it you know if you want to end Wars like you just get up here and I remember that was the first time you were on I remember yeah and the last time because he goes you don't belong here it did not go well yeah I I called what I I called him a a condescending prick and then I left oh that's right you cursed yeah I remember you cursed him out because I think I was in the Discord and I'm like and I remember telling him like oh my God zat o tala right now and he's getting cursed out or he's cursing Jack out no you know I don't I don't take the guy too seriously because he's he's obviously like some kind of [ __ ] philosophy major or Professor or something I don't know what he said he used to work for the union but he he knows a lot about philosophy and that's cool but like you know you can't bring philosophy to the real world when you involve actual human beings in the sense of you're not going to change people just by telling them how to stop Wars they know how to stop Wars but Christians believe that there's a certain spiritual power that can change so part of it it like it it makes sense within the Christian framework and people leave that part out good luck without the Christian framework yeah it's crazy cooky stuff but in the Christian framework it all makes sense there's an internal consistency to it and he's a Christian I take it like hardcore Christian um I I I believe he's Christ I mean you'd have to ask him but I believe he's Christian I I I think he's Jesus Chuck says he gets high before he screams I could believe that I don't know he's taking but to get that happy well I mean you don't really know what he's doing no before I'm just speculating it's all speculation maybe it takes a lot of like uh good pain pills that would make that expression on a person's face like or maybe he's legitimately filled with joy yeah whatever like people get from Jesus I tried to get it it it didn't come but I no such thing in my opinion but uhoh uh oh I left my do in the car you what I left my dope in the car oh no speaking of getting high yeah I only get high when I'm awake so it's not a big deal do you have any pets Jeff I picture you having a cat no my my room in Seattle we had two cats my roommate did yeah but um on my own no I want a dog but I can't have a dog oh did is your are you really waiting are you really waiting to be an uncle no I said ear it was a joke right yeah yeah yeah that's what I thought he knows it's a joke cuz he said about I don't have any siblings so it's like you know it has to be a joke yeah thank you Shameless that was yes it's to prevent victims in the first place right so so their argument is it it shouldn't be a law like until there's an actual victim it shouldn't be a law well I don't understand how seat belts can be a law that should be a personal choice I remember when that changed when that pass because it at first it was voluntary there are certain states where it's not a law by the way I always um as a kid we never used it like we were never our parent never cared if we us they never told us to put our seat belts on anything but as it when I started driving I purposely trained myself to get in the habit of reaching for the seat belt just as a safety precaution and now every time I'm in a car I I have I can't even function if my hand doesn't grab that seat belt first like I have my brain trained to grab the seat belt every time and doesn't that piss you off a little bit in the back of your mind because you realize how you've been trained by the no I trained myself I I trained myself once started driving and the seat started passing I'm like I I want to make sure I have my seat Bel on every time I'm going to need to make an extra effort every time I get in the car to to grab it and when I get in friend's cars find the seat belt and so I I did that until it like built into my but if it wasn't a law would you have done it or did you do that on your own probably because of the safety and I I took a defensive driving course and they taught you like all these extra driving tips and information that you didn't learn regulars drivers at and I was fascinated by it this is one of the most eye openening courses I'd ever taken and so I became aware of all this stuff about driving that I didn't even know from basic drivers head and so it got me into like wanting to be all safety conscious and defensive driving is that's kind of when you drive for yourself and other people on the road you compensate for their yeah potential poor driving skills their [ __ ] stupidity man I I have to drive to other states like quite often and uh when I do the people on the highway are just insane I mean I'm already doing like 85 89 or something and someone come come flying up on my ass almost hit me and then cut across three lanes and you know and zip keep zipping and then you catch up with them five minutes later because they get caught in traffic it's like what are you [ __ ] doing just slow down [ __ ] you know why do you have to be that God it's not a movie you're not or whatever his name is Vin Diesel I prepare for that I prepare when I before I get in the car I prepare that there's going to be bad drivers on the road not driving at my skill level and so I I prepare to shoulder the responsibility for that because I know that they're not yeah I mean I'm tempted sometimes to just [ __ ] cut the Lane right in front of them at the last second and just make them go into the woods you know I I don't you know I restrain myself but it's like [ __ ] you man you know just stop it I'm a pretty patient driver in general unless unless I'm like at a deadline like I have to really be somewhere and I'm late which is very rare so usually I can be the one that let somebody go or slows down or yeah yeah well I always let people uh tolerate somebody else's Mischief I always let people in and I can I can tell what they're going to do ahead of time because they always you look for the cars with the fish the Christian card they're always waving you in yeah turn the other cheek and turn the other signal what's breake check is that when you yeah you slam on your brakes cuz someone's uh following you too close oh yeah that's an [ __ ] thing to do in general even growing up I thought it was a [ __ ] thing it is why you gotta be so close huh why you got to be up my ass that's kind of what happened with the drinking loss too until it hit Louisiana and we said oh yeah just say so what are you eating by the way what is this breakfast of yours some TV dinner TV dinner for breakfast yeah frozen dinner make a case of De it's easy you made it sound like labor like truly labor well I have this thing I forget what they call it but it it has like different sized um it's like a a little metal grate inside some plastic and you put like an onion on it and you oh yeah we like a chopper thing yeah Chopper we we had those you chop the onions up with that that's easy right you cut an onion in half and chop the halves of it up and and then you uh then you take um you have the shredded chicken already and then you just take the the peppers I have like what's like called a mandolin you know what that is it's very sharp and you like slide things over it it's almost like for pling wood you know principle and and uh you just slice some bell peppers with that thing and throw them all on top of a tortilla fry them in butter and you're done you know cheese put whatever cheeses you want on it put olives on it whatever you know it's it's not hard and you could put everything or nothing on it you know you can make them just cheese [ __ ] it just a tortilla some butter and some cheese I say it's easy but it's easy compared to like cooking something that's you know complicated like really complicated um I know how to push buttons on a microwave I know how to set an oven to cook a frozen pizza I know how to cook Ram particularly time the kind where you peel the little paper off the top of the Styrofoam cup and you pour the hot water in and y'all going to love this I can cook pasta to Perfection I have mastered the art of pasta cooking I can work a pasta pot and a strainer and I could pull off excellent pasta do you uh do you taste them like when they're cooking to see if they're done I get it per like and I stand there the whole time and I I I stir it when I need to and I get it and I stand there every like every few seconds I'm tested and I know when it gets right at that point I'm I'm pretty good at hitting that window of perfect Pasta yeah yeah just Al Dente yeah that's right that's what you want bro you have you ever heard of um carbonara what Nora no carbonara oh yeah with the bacon well you don't use bacon if you do it right you use the you use Guan chali or Panetta oh I must have the Americanized version no no no because bacon is you can use bacon if that's all you got but I wouldn't you know because it's greasy but like uh all you do is you throw the meat in the pan like bacon and then you get uh this peino Romano cheese you mix it up with some egg and and uh and then you basically that's the sauce kind of I mean it's pretty simple you want to talk about like something that's not a project this is easy to make you know and it's actually delicious it's like an authentic Italian Dish you know but cuz I made it a couple times I made it a couple times in like two days is and loved it are you Italian half oh oh but I never had that kind of [ __ ] growing up none of my relatives made that I I had to look on YouTube to figure out how to make it and I couldn't believe it was as easy as it was to make you know that reminds me um I have a friend that just started a YouTube cooking channel so I want to share put that link in the so I figure out what the channel is UM [ __ ] I'll just and we have speaking of welcome Mike happy labor day happy labor day how's it going hey man I just talking about food Italian food specifically I heard carbonara do you put peas in it you're not supposed to says who just some little Italian lady come to your house no there's a guy on YouTube and he says you know don't if I want peas in my food I would put peas I might like to taste of peas yeah p with or without peas yeah you're not supposed to use bacon like you say supposed to use penchetta you know the [ __ ] little cubes of ham yeah y'all are fancy way fancier than I love cooking pasta I love it and it lasts the bacon side of the tracks if you make a large pot if you have food for two or three days not every single meal every day you might want to have it for lunch one day maybe dinner the next day after you know it lasts it it holds up as long as it's in the fridge yeah good stuff what do you have going on today are you barbecuing [ __ ] I froze up no you didn't freeze up I you did I don't know what happened I got I guess I froze or something I don't know what happened oh yeah I think you did yeah it's been crazy weather it's been raining since like seven o'clock this morning it's winding down now so I might just throw a I don't usually eat burgers too much but if I eat a burger I'll make it myself because I got some ground beef um I just didn't want I hate standing out in the rain and Grilling just I hate that oh is it raining there it's winding down now it's pretty much almost gone but it was it was raining pretty good earlier because I wanted to make one probably like around two or something like that but it was just pouring rain out there yeah yeah so you already ate already sorry I'm eating right now my little frozen dinner Hey hits the spot right yeah that's pretty much they do what they're designed to do yeah give me one second right back all right um okay here is my friend's Cooking Channel she she does it with her sister and they live remotely so they like eat stream from their kitchens and they swap off teaching dish little dishes it's like 10 or 15 minute quick dishes so you can give her a like And subscribe if it interests you Mediterranean weather what um what do you know what climate in the US it's comparable to is it like California climate all right let's see Jack is still going so we'll see if moose ends up on there oh yeah mash the button if you don't mind I'm so used to just like with the seat belts I train myself every time I'm at a YouTube video of somebody that I know or I think I might like I'm trained to hit the Subscribe and then the share thing copy the share link because they say that helps so like every time I pull up a new video of somebody I want to support I just automatically do those things before I even play the video I have my brain trained now so I'm constantly liking it's like the first thing I do and so uh I just assume everybody's like liking but you're right cuz sometimes if if I do forget it takes somebody reminding me to make me realize I forgot welcome back hey sorry um yeah any topics you anything in the news you saw that you wanted to talk about or bun of [ __ ] happened um hang let me pull it up there's a bunch of protests in Israel Over the hostages and the the US government just took that Venezuelan president's plane like they took they they snatched his plane for sanction violations um there was one other thing let me see the president's plane yeah you know that Venezuelan guy that just got elected and they said it was corrupt and illegitimate yeah his plane they just took it our government just took his plane Brazil banned Twitter and um yeah in Brazil Elon I went to high school with that guy which guy the president pres of Venezuela the current one Nicholas Maduro did he touch your butt and Venezuela is not a small country they're a large country you know and they have a predominant military I can't imagine just a country coming and just taking the president's this is ours now you know without a fight we're just gonna take this real quick a guy with clipboard comes out you know WR it down that's funny internet I don't I don't want you on cat like hopefully you're not going to have yourself on cat food over this Obsession so so I don't I don't want you to go that for if you if you're at that point I'm not going to take your money this is this is luxury goods It's Entertainment it's fun but nobody should be dipping into their survival fund no they're talking about mine because I have a 41k and they hate the fact that I have a 41k they hate that it's okay oh it's like a dig at you yeah no they said their own 401K yeah they're talking about me dude talking about me no they're talking about you because I'm I'm not going there I'm not going there so what else Jeff um not much this is Labor day so I'm hoping for a a pretty light yeah fun holiday which means I'm probably to get the complete opposite going to get hell on Earth because everybody body's off and sitting there what am I gon to do today what am I gonna do today all the drama people are going to be out at once yeah they're Unleashed and plus the kids are off school now speaking of it looks like talot you ever say happy Memorial Day he live is it wrong to say happy Memorial Day for Labor Day no for Memorial Day is it wrong to say that oh like on Memorial Day I do I actually now that you think about it I I think I read an article last year saying like why not to say that and I might have even done a little short thing on the stream about it well it's basically you're saying you know like I'm happy to be out of work because all these soldiers died for me that's the the short of it you know but at the same time I've never um wished somebody happy Memorial Day or had had it wished on myself which caused any kind of negative reaction nobody ever said how dare you I'm grieving this is not a happy time they've all said oh thank you you too yeah I know because no one cares anymore no one really did care I don't think ever maybe during World War II or something but I mean it's like I think the one I think the one benefit of Memorial Day is that since you're off you can actually reflect on it and think that you know basically have time to think about it when you're every day hustle and bustle even at work you're not thinking about anything you're just thinking about work yeah so I think when you have a a day off like like today you think about all the hard workers you know it Memorial Day you think about you know all the soldiers had passed away I ain't thinking about no hard workers today or any other day hey Pat hey Sam sounds good I used to be a hard worker but then my [ __ ] hip bones started dying and that's the end of that I'm sorry to hear that man thank you I don't know if I'll block people for the day because it is Labor Day and the idea is to kind of just drop in and out all day long as you will kind of like a um open house yeah if you can make money I might like it really depends cuz I I got convinced to mute somebody for five minutes yesterday which I never I didn't really think I'd do but then the person started get it on my nerves and I'm like sure I $5 that's sounds reasonable so what you can do is you can like set the person up to be kicked you can incentivize and then the minute he gets on my nerves it's going to be magnified that much more because there's other people put money behind and that's probably going to get them kicked off try so I don't know if you can if it's like direct pay for play but it certainly has the potential to have an effect say that's good oh that's moose that's what I was trying to figure out if that guy was moose all right let's see what moose is up to on Jack no clue who is this guy that moose is imitating sorry I distracted from what you were saying for you though um back to what you're were saying isn't it kind of funny how there's you know okay so I I'm in a tourist area right and uh everybody I know still work today except for the Post Office isn't it kind of funny how it was supposed to be a day to celebrate all the laborers and then I just happen to be a slave that's uh an Echelon below you ain't no slave slave that could get a day off a't that cute a slave that owns a house own a hotel I'm not just saying for me though I'm saying for all the people out there you know there are there's a lot of people who are still working their employers don't recognize it or they volunteer because the money is worth more than a day off I guess I used to have that mindset um here the universe brought forth hey actually moose let me let me acknowledge with you I acknowledged it in myself myself yesterday um you you described what happened yesterday with you and me and Stephen accurately I'm gonna go over there but I placed an expectation on you that you weren't aware of and that wasn't fair not to you that's for sure and I didn't mean any rudeness with you how is stepen reason bring this up still trying to figure out how to communicate with some of these characters and Mr Steven has returned the one with the olive branch that disrupted your whole stream to the point where you had to end the show you uh if he says that he's not here to pull the ball out from under you like Lucy that's what he said uh after I had a chat with him after somewhere and then uh he insists he's not here to yeah that's that's Luc if you want to give him a free slate if you want to treat that's her role to always try again I'm cool with it but I mean that's just it I'm not see he's been so bitter I'm gonna make a prediction right now disrespectful to me we should start little many many others Steven is going to be on this [ __ ] boy to learn some manners so there's no clean late Stephen until you come correct and that means with an acknowledgment of what you might have done wrong and so in in Jack's fantasy mind this is going to happen Steven's G to come undo yeah does that sound unreasonable moose yes it sounds unrealistic use the [ __ ] boy it's Reason Not based beyond that you think that's reasonable no I do think that's reasonable ask you how do you think others in the crowd perceive you when you're someone who does spread love and and living without fear just think I just want you to that's the same thing I say to you oh my God I can't watch this much longer people are gonna see whatever they want now okay I'm I'm just taking a little break maybe zad will show up um yeah wow the oh God that it's when you can see like the projection that the other person do but they can't see it but then somebody does it to the that happens all the time on here it it's like the Spider-Man meme because this person will be pointing at one person for doing something that this other person is pointing at them for doing the same thing and nobody's aware like the person themselves is not aware but the Outsiders can all see it I think it's the outside that can see it you're right I might add it could be the exact center that could see it as well that's just some high [ __ ] that's not like to like turn from what you're saying well I guess the exact center in this case would be each individual person people okay outside people on the inside so that be like the people involved themselves so the center of that would be each person on the inside I guess their individual Consciousness unless there's like a strong central leader I came thought you talking did you get kicked already no you never let me up not me because of uh oh look look oh hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on one second Donald Trump himself look look I prophesy look that's I said we didn't even have time to open the bedding pool look men fences you might say maybe not a clean this is Jack said I'm done this is final no more two seconds later that that boundary was that thin so I just wanted y'all to see wow Jack looks perturbed but I will say jack is not the only one that has challenge his drawing and keeping boundaries with Bad actors so the guy King quite common here actually that guy King Steven is was that like him and Jack had Jack had a fight is that what happened yeah apparently something like that if you could call it that I call it bit but um no it it's Lucy and the football Steph goes up hi Jack I'm here for Noble purposes I want to do peace and love I'm not here to hurt your channel and Jack lets him on and Stephen starts destroying his channel and Jack has to kick him off and says never again that's the last time you're coming on my channel and two seconds later he's back on the channel doing the same Loop and if y'all don't believe me y'all can go watch the streams and see does anybody here own two cats two cats two two cats yeah I don't own even one no all right does anyone really own an animal no nobody no no of course not Jeff but take care of provide but like look there is a packing order okay in nature and I think we're seeing through these guys I think you know the you just showed I think we're seeing like like a packing order or a packing disorder I should say you know what I mean like I mean like a pecking disorder and I'm the one who eats bird food so you should maybe take it from me you know oh wait you're the one about that freeze DED Bird fruit the fruit at the pet store if it's freeze dried yeah the freeze dried pet bird okay see now you know I'm not crazy and I'm not just making [ __ ] up you're not crazy just like I don't know did they just have it out in the open I'm like yeah you're just supposed to scoop it in the bag but I go you just put in your mouth I can hold it in here I don't need a bag whoa whoa I was talking about you might have crossed the there son I was talking about bird no seriously um lza back to this uh what' you call it the pecking order thing so what's going on in this Dynamic there there is an Al you know like uh it's okay so here's how it was described to me okay I have two cats okay and I I witness them and and they stay outside but like I witness them like one goes I eat first you know and you eat second oh okay so like uh but then I have a customer who I'm actually about to go out to their beautiful property and um on Labor Day like yeah yeah I yeah make them happy you know give them my word make them happy you know no big deal so uh and they what the [ __ ] do this have to do with packing order the cats like how one eats oh so yeah she had so this lady um basically because you know like you know how like Bob Barker says like after every episode spay your cats and animals and [ __ ] like he wasn't lying like it's a for real thing like and so like this lady has and I uh and I mean this in the best of way she takes care of about like from what I can tell anywhere from between like nine and like 12 cats or nine and 11 if you like those two numbers either way but either way um yeah she was telling me something about oh yeah and he uh her husband was telling me my favorite customer he was telling me he goes they have an actual packing order like I eat first you eat second and like that doesn't sound like if you just like aren't an idiot you can you can think that sounds like the military in a way well that's all that's what hierarchies are natural they're not they are that yeah they're unavoidable like and this ideology of getting rid of hierarchies is just not it's counter to Nature and reality with Wolves always eats first and then you get somebody always eating first definitely y but you tired though is what I'm saying is like if there's a high Ry I'm just like yo who's the manager I like to speak to that I like to I like to be hired well first you go to a you go to a fancy ass restaurant and you start hobnobbing with some of the people that go there and then they'll [ __ ] hook you up you can't just go because you have to know like all the etiquette and the precise like like you they won't hobnob with you if you don't meet certain markers yeah I know I've been there they put us behind the plant yo did I tell you I've been hanging out with a b a lot of birds lately mainly like ravens and crows because um like uh I was told my 401k you know about those 401ks first of all I heard that's a long way to run but second of all uh that yeah like if I just hang out with these like crows like that my like um like bank account will grow and grow and grow and grow and grow bigger and bigger good story man they will BR money if you was like that was like me trying to rise Lazarus Lazarus it is it is a long way to run that that part was good what um getting back to to tcot like so who do you think the pecking order is oh yo as far as all that [ __ ] I didn't even see any of that [ __ ] at all just so you know like I just uh I just hopped oh because I was talking about the little Loop like the little King Steven said it's like the two cats no disorder pecking disorder what what did you mean by that who were you talking about well because when I came up there was those people on the stream and you guys were like haha look at them like basically going back and I go I was trying to make an adjacent joke about how animals and like specifically cats and specifically people I actually know have told me about pecking orders it was just a joke that's all I know okay wow the sky is gorgeous there did you say this guy or the sky the the sky he married say Angels do work in the sky but sometimes they do it in this guy you know it is the Sodom Gamora I remember that story wow so tell me you're not laboring today what are you laboring uh kind of I'm waiting for tide to go down so I can bleach the boat you're not going out to no we already went we we we hauled 60 traps and said [ __ ] that and come home we didn't have the bait we didn't have the bait we wanted so are you at least barbecuing later or doing something fun aand what is that drill oh you're I think your signals freezing yeah his his uh his Signal's in labor today it's laboring moose what's up we watched you a little bit but it looked like it was mostly him talking well stepen came up and [ __ ] took over the whole thing all correct Steen came over I was like all right I'm out Steven came over after Jack said no more I'm done with Stephen this is the final straw never again and two seconds later yeah the demon it was like and then he was like oh well help me out I'm like nope I'm out uh but yeah Mike I owe you an apology came over on uh before my birthday you got thrown out and uh then people you know we all ganged up on you I guess and that was kind of messed up and uh I I think it was Ill character ill moral uh Behavior I want to apologize just [ __ ] and for sure nobody came I I have a question Mike uh I saw something about this dude Andrew he was challenging you to a a you know like a consensual uh either martial arts or fist fight are you gonna do that or no this is YouTube bro this is YouTube I'm not gonna go to prison be you could go oneon-one though like I'm like you know what I mean like it have to be a fight it can't be a fight right if you think I'm scared you got something else coming I just I'm not interested in that no one said you're scared no one said that it's just that uh you know he was like saying that youat he said that you you threat don't you threaten people over words you say you wouldn't say that in front of me you know right here front of me that's all I said what's that supposed to mean is that supposed to mean if you'd like me to finish because people like to run D gets knocked out every third Wednesday at a bar BR I'm not okay I'll stop I'll stop I I swear well number one I apprciate if you feel that way I'll put my address backstage if you want to come and talk to me in person I'm not going to come to you no come onely not you you old enough to dress yourself you can dress really are want to go fight behind the school no I'm not I don't want to dress would say anything I say I don't want to add any dressing to this man he he is a word salad type dressing wouldn't hurt but like fight in fight with dresses show dresses why don't you keep dragging this out if you know what I'm saying you know what I mean I know I keep talking about I got to stop man I gotta stop talking about it when I did when I did the EM You like dragons no I don't I'm not I'm dragging these balls across your face right now that's good that's great I'm happy for you I'm not here for a negative conversation you're not appreciate it Mike you're not gonna get it so it's okay prove it I think I pretty I'm just telling you Mike is stacking up the points for when it's time to kick someone off the panel for it not to be him so uh what's going on in the worldbody started sucking dick no I'm just kidding you know the funny thing is is I come up I make peace with Mike I thought we were already at peace but then then I saw that video and I was like man I really should apologize for my past transgressions Mike's like whatever and uh all because I know you're not sincere I know you're not sincere so it's okay oh you don't believe his apology oh you don't actually believe that not at all let me tell you what what I know about moose because he's done it to me too moose plays to the crowd moose I'm talking about lza I'm not talking about oh okay cause moose moose did imaginatory thing my friend it's all about it's not all about talking about Bel but no me and moose kind of actually sound alike and actually moose was the one talking so it made sense that we all thought you were talking about moose except for you hey like well moose was the one that um wow already already passed what is that colored stuff oh W you front of me that's the floor yeah they look like spoons bro they look like big ass SPO like rainbow like a pride boat float no looks like spoons does it oh oh that oh those those are balloons that's what you know what we tie on the end of the Rope how do you sit on them when they're upside down like that hopefully sitting on one if you're sitting on one that's bad so Ley is that to Mark where the Trap is yeah no it's to warn the lob not to go like this one here would be like the pickup this would be the pickup balloon and this would be the actual balloon that keeps all the weight up oh what kind of trap was Mike actually talking about though was he talking about those Japanese traps or the um those hold on I don't know we have any I don't know if there's any traps up here on the warf or not hold on the Italian lobster trap can G I don't rule anything out oh my I don't know but they scream like little girls when they get boiled oh boil oops uh oh right here there's traps over here so these are what traps are these are small traps these are just three Footers here hey have you guys ever heard of the guy who invented the globe Theory his name Isa Nicholas trap ericus um I'm kidding but he might have been capping us though you know like with all that cap heras he had and [ __ ] I don't know dude it's kind of I'm literally gonna shut up for 10 minutes just to see what you guys talk about I think we're mes or at least I mesmerized by this boat footage yeah yeah it's the water dude just being on the water itself is just it's like something else you know that wall looks so old it's like something at ancient Rome by the way I'm organizing a uh a uh how do I put it um a subtle whaling trip um it's not exactly legal so it's got to be subtle but anyone who wants to go we're going to go in real life or online in real life we're going to go talking about 3D printed going to the Pharaoh Islands talk to talk to Barney we're gonna Slaughter those whales at you got you got to bring your own Harpoon though there's no harpoons you got to bring your own oh I can tell you what I I wish make sure you get a good T first I'll [ __ ] stab that thing with my dick and kill it I don't know if if fight between yours thing that's the thing that's that's the thing like a whale has not been um adaptated to that type of um attack yet so it's totally probable wh get into a dick measuring contest with a whale not measuring scut contest it's like how okay okay okay never mind dude measuring me death Jeff can come how you how you measure death how do you measure death yeah how dead something is right well they don't don't don't they have like for medical science they have like certain metrics they use for when they can legally consider somebody dead yeah but like doesn't doesn't like like death or whatever like Okay so let's say like an animal eat something that's alive and and then it shits it out but that becomes fertilizer so it becomes life again so like is it [ __ ] actually dead and I know Jeff Jeff has Insight on this kind kind of [ __ ] too because he like you guys all probably know more than me I'm just bringing up General [ __ ] question General [ __ ] question like uh that's hilarious no serious did we talk about last week did we talk about the last week say does something ever really die because you said it turns into gas or it turns into manure it turns no that wasn't me bro I'm not saying that might have been on the one of the other 200 panels you've been on since then bro what you [ __ ] stupid who who do you think you are and who do you think I am [ __ ] think I know who is plus I'm white and I can beat you at basketball what now what now what else is that your life achievement you canow yeah I got I got 10 Xbox points for it last week remember awesome man so happy for it did your did your Daddy Pat you on the head and say good job son uh no your mommy patted me on the head appreciate that my mom's my mom well I appreciate you continuing the [ __ ] that could have stopped whenever you decided to end it appreciate that appreciate that don't even get him sted on his mom she's in she's okay Mom Alive Now dud she so crazy she in 5251 5251 that's just an addition of both numbers of 5150 bro wait what Jeff 5150 is like AAL joke code the code so what is it 5152 if Mike wants to go just let me know like what caliber he's rocking no not can do that on on the channel we'll start at 762 is that what it's called we'll start there what do you and then where do you want to go from there are you threatening to shoot me what what you talking about gun Cali no I'm supposed to kill you with kindness you stupid [ __ ] are you stupid I'm talking bullets of Love okay don't talk bullets at all bullets of love what about bullet points bullets unless a good rock band bullets not how about this how about Cupid what I seriously doubt that be I got I got Cupid arrows what size you got we got a real life arrow on our hands fellas I'm telling you no dude you you Cupid you know what you know else RS with Cupid stupid because you're missing fluid serious question from your cerebral spinal I I don't think violence is the answer and I think if somebody's provoking violence in you that's something to look at seriously serious question Mike how old are you and you know what it's like did Shakespeare ever promote violence you think Jeff yeah he did I don't know what think you think was ever discussed in a way that wasn't actually violent it's possible right you can discuss violence in a way that is not violent right yeah but it didn't sound like we were discussing violence it sound like we were expressing violence different okay I agree with you Mike are you gonna answer my question how old you are I L that keeps talking I can't answer your question but how old am I yeah I'm 49 how about you9 I'd like to hear other people make fun of M personally now I'm so I can't hear you I'm 54 okay you're doing good man you're still rocking around until Chuck gets here dude he's doing so good he needed your validation bro Lanza look I'm I'm gonna give you aak dude even he thought even the guy who he was talking to thought it was funny man that's funny I know but it there's like hostility behind it today you're you're over you are correct I correct I want to try to keep as harmonious of a panel as I can so sometimes I just have to be mindful of the different combinations but if this was kill Tony you know that you're robot in you're robot yeah yeah you're roboting anyway so I'm going to um do this just for a while sure all right well hey God damn you Jeff now Mike thinks he won a battle though because he's grinning well he can think what he wants he I'm managing my panel I'm not going to leave someone on the panel attack everybody just to prove just to have Mike not think that he want something that's not how I run my panel thing is you know what's funny is that when everybody complains about Mike and and start you know they try to get him into an argument when he gets thrown out the conversation just stops seen kill the stream you shoot the stream in the foot and then you just don't care about what happens afterward people are paying to Brak it back off now just what I've learned is if you don't engage somebody being a fool like he was acting a fool if you don't engage him they get even more pissed you just don't even engage him you know who who was that what you haven't heard of kill Tony Jeff no I haven't really where the f what have you beening we We R red different crowds I don't no no kill Tony it's he's like famous like he's live podcast taped in Austin Texas and all over the world featuring Tony henchcliffe and Brian redband and the band with huge celebrity guests dude like Joe Rogan's on it's like a standup stav Ros hus was on it and um let's see why does he put his oh but yeah kill Tony Whitney Cummings was on it she's good she's funny Sam talent I think Nikki GLA Glacier was on it yeah yeah yeah she's like the number Florentine dud that roast to Tom Brady she did her [ __ ] set was by far one of the best standup sets I've I've heard in a long time and she takes it in the ass self- admittedly so hey whatever nothing wrong with a girl admitting she's a freak I guess yeah let's see um God damn you Jeff I forgot the olives the olives what are you having a mat supposed to buy [ __ ] black olives for for the quad yeah I didn't buy them and it's all your fault man I don't know H um okay I'm sorry that you your olives were at the mercy of me yes stop it please yeah um Mr B is talking about physics what happens to information when you die I mean nothing is truly lost as far as information goes so they say even in a black hole a black hole still emits something back out you know like and is that information I don't know but hey Kiki I'm only concerned with what I'm going to be aware of and my atom my body atoms and and all that other stuff the energy the information I'm not going to be aware of any of that so that I'm just concerned about what my Consciousness is going to your personality yeah your your before up I learned wizard you're a robot buddy yeah he's still robotic bad you should it so close and come back completely okay okay um it's louder but it's still roboty fix it's pretty bad I'm gonna drop down Jeff because I got to uh make Cas well that too but okay well we'll be here all day so have a good one see you later thanks for having me up okay you too yeah fun times man fun times I gotta read some more news yeah the world's going crazy man if you look at everything going on with you can pick a topic you know but like you said Jeff earlier when you first opened up there's so much stuff going on popping off yeah since it seems like since from what's one of my favorite one of my f can you guys hear me okay yeah now we can what happened he dropped off his connection [ __ ] anyways Mike yes this world's going to [ __ ] H in a hand basket but I'm just not even try to talk the [ __ ] close button bro like I'm done bro that's cuz you pissed off Mike and Mike's a CIA operative so he he's got you in his sights he's boom snipe your ass I'm watching you of course he has a shot like the sniper on Trump so you don't have but if he's seeing me he's only seeing in three did you see that they did you see um couple days ago someone else someone else uh charg the stage at him and but they got him within like five seconds no what at a trump rally yeah no I didn't that if you want to put put up like Trump's recent attack like this guy on a guard rail he's on a guard rail right and he jumps to guard rail and runs and gets up on get up on stage within like five seconds wof they were on top of him and just ripped it's funny because do they did they find out like what his deal was they he just was trying they're they're Hush Hush about it so I don't know yeah it sounds like some psycho idiot just lost his kind of mind where I where was this do you know the location of the state I could try to look it up but it was literally yeah because I'm not I'm not F anything but I don't I'm gonna guess it's Illinois I don't know why illo charging the media oh Effigy said they were charging the media not Trump I don't the guy was up on the rails why would Trump get charged for some idiot rushing the stage um you have to flash your camera and I have to know who you are so who are you name is Donald Trump you think he's really gonna get charged with anything for real well he's already been charged with plenty he's charged as as he's at his rally yo yo when I'm charged that [ __ ] is different than when I'm at rallies I could tell you that the [ __ ] dud walking around walking around like you there's two people in the back technically show up well you have to yeah you can't come up without I have to at least see that you are not other people okay there's a whole bunch of people trying to get on right now none of them are flashing their cameras hey Jeff yeah what up you you there I'm here some listen man um I want to tell you something okay my grand mother had like three marriages okay first one was like super abusive right like it was in the probably she's born in 44 I think she's young so like it would have been like in the [ __ ] 60s right second marriage I don't know I don't know [ __ ] didn't work out or actually second marriage was cool so this guy was his uh he was like a 303r degree Mason right I swear to God I'm not making the [ __ ] up they had a bag pipe death thing for him and everything he was high up in Motorola and um and then he died right so she remarried and the new guy she married actually um nationalized an ambulance company okay and uh essentially what I'm trying to tell you is he's personal friends with Rudy giulian how much and I'm going to extort you now how much money do you want to pay me to try to [ __ ] get Rudy Giuliani on this [ __ ] pod it was all for this [ __ ] I I did take us along this journey for like for real I mean it's a real opportunity but I mean I I I think I've let people far worse than Rudy jul on here before so I probably would turn him away if he want don't you think Rudy Giuliani like guarantees like 100,000 views though maybe maybe I don't know like I said I would turn him away but I'm not going to go out of my way to have a conversation with him he could bring more numbers than Mike and that's just Maybe not maybe it'll turn out that Mike Cerrone is more popular than rud J hey I love imagination yeah yeah H imagination is an amazing thing so is there going to be any I mean is it gonna stop is working going to stop what do you mean I've been done I said what I said are you going to stop are you going to stop telling us to stop L hang no hang on no you said you told me you were going to behave when I let you back on so here's liliana's Channel by the way no Mike it's probably not gonna stop just he's a child he's a he child oh you meant with him specifically I thought you meant in general with you D chill you know and he's got to be the worst Comina I've ever heard those jokes it's like cringe but anyway let's stay positive I've been good I'm not doing yeah you you really have you've been helping me keep this channel on a good track today yeah um I want follow I miss you know I miss getting the newspaper I like reading stuff I know I I watch the news but it's like it's subjective um not saying the paper isn't but um I believe when you read something you remember it better does that make sense if you read something do you do they still have newspapers yeah yeah yeah I read the paper this morning uh we get like six at work so I just like thumb through them all and like I don't know there's something about that paper too that old school paper and it's an experience you know you grab your coffee I don't know it's it's like the American dream Ley are you trying to come on there's somebody in the back under your name okay I'll just oh that is you wait now the real Ley the one that's on the panel can tell me if it's him or not there's all these people in the back trying to come on like these random generic names with no pictures channels tell me a few I might know some of them no they're just like generic names like John yeah um Alex no pictures Noel spam we're trying to spam your uh your streamyard No No cameras I don't have a camera please let me up there just a lot of them all snap snaps I bet or somebody like him let's KCK them all out the best the best is when we had trivia night and on another Channel and um I was killing this guy right and all of a sudden his camera stopped working and he started getting everything right and you can hear him typing the ansers they should not have let him play until he get back you lost you're an idiot I'm like okay that's that's fine whatever but you both have to admit moose and Jeff you have both admit they people take this way too serious way too serious bro they're making videos out of it like videos out of us just talking like yeah yeah we're other PE they have no content we are other people's content now Jeff every live that me you and moose are on or like that they they are just basically showing it and they're like just critiquing it like like they're like I don't know what the heck they're doing you know make your own stuff you know there's contate creators and then there's basically just leeches leech off of your content and they're like tucking off of us basically marketing they're just helping me market I'm getting free marketing so hey F hey how's it going this it's an interesting conversation because this was on my mind earlier because I see a lot of people I'm I'm new to this I only jump on streaming just for debates and stuff like that and much more recent than a lot of you guys but every time I see someone jump on and they Orient the conversation completely around what will get views what will get subs it just I don't know why just tickles the back of my brain and I'm like is this sociopathic Behavior like because it just like if if you bend everything in your life around that because sometimes it seems there are certain channels that just kind of want to exist and be a person and have conversations and they're not like obviously um you know putting on a show um as someone who's dealt with like performance for you know at least 20 years of my life like it's really easy for me to tell when someone's putting on a show and is it really because that's the big struggle here is how do you know what's real and what's not like what's produced I I think it's What organic I can never tell yeah like like in a in a in a in real life I I can't like a theater production or something stage but on on the P like some of the fights that happen here are not even real they there are people in the background like on Discord coordinating like AB what do you say okay now I'm going to say this to you et and then but to the pan overs it looks like two people having conflict or drama yeah they use everything as content if someone else is streaming you can almost be assured if they popped into your stream that they're using you as content in a way either either uh maliciously or not maybe maybe it's benevolently you know we're just here to to help each other but some people are like I am coming over there to start [ __ ] and starting [ __ ] will mean views will mean blah blah blah you know yeah there is that to watch out for um I'm still figuring it all out too yeah it's Jeff it's very confusing I've been on it for about two over over two years it's very I know you've no longer than me but I've been in channels that are like chaos you know I've been in cha I've been on channels at 70,000 subscribers you like I'm saying I'm not saying I'm better than any I'm just saying but I've been on those platforms where it's just like you I'm fighting seven people at once you ever seen me argue with seven people at once it's the craziest you've ever seen I can't imagine I've seen seven people at once try to argue with you yeah but I'm I'm banging them back is not here I'm banging them back um on these other channels and then I said I I said to myself this is not good for me it it makes me pissed off I log off I'm angry and I'm like you know what I don't want to deal with that stuff I don't mind light-hearted drama light-hearted trolling but I'm not talking about your kids I'm not talking about you know your wife's a ho they go so disgustingly talk about you know digging up my dead relatives I'm like what like what are you talk they go lower and lower and lower until and it just shows me that that's not evil that's not evil that's a narcissist sociopath that's what that is well some of them do look like more of the aggressor than not a lot of the old streams when I first came on um are been deleted I'm not scared no no no but you had to see me go after people and I'm like but like I said what I'm trying to say is that later on I'm like this is not good I want to see your icon is that AI oh anyway it's cool yeah know if he's coming up or not what's I'm about to put don't name mic on a block block list I I accidentally deleted someone's comment just now by mistake um it wasn't yours that I meant to delete and I didn't see what it was all right I'm about to kick all the mic Sone trolls I don't want I don't want that clogged up my chat room if you have a problem with mic take it offline take it to Discord don't come and take up my stream that makes you seem more disrespectful of this channel than Mike is being hey Jeff I don't care about Mike's drama history go talk y'all have discords to talk about it in I know you do because I see you in them why are you using my channel as your Discord because Jeff because you're right okay Jeff you're 100% right the thing is is they are technically promoting your chat algorithm so let them sit there and like you want to let them be [ __ ] and understand that they are hours and hours and hours you're going to disrespect him by letting people will sit there and talk smack to him and having him uh you know if he's looking at the chat he has to see that he can't just block that cuz he's up here on streamyard and you know you're gonna allow that to happen for views that's what it says to your other uh people that come up on panel and that's what your the message that you're going to spread from now on well I almost don't mind having it here for archive purposes but if it gets too personal I'm deleting I've been deleting the ones that are just nasty and the funny thing is they'll keep coming back as different accounts so like they'll just keep adding to the algorithm different these are as Disturbed as they're trying to convince me Mike is this is not normal sane adult human behavior what you're doing right now going following someone All Over YouTube and constantly attacking them like this that makes you the aggressor you're not the victim in this situation if Mike did something to you personally then handle it like adults if you don't like the way the things he said to other people in other Street well grow up this is not the way to handle it no this is not a free speed zone I've been very clear about that YouTube's not even really a free speed zone yeah Pat they're they're free to do that by the way you still have your $10 drama credit this might be a good day to use it if somebody if somebody wants to come up and have a conversation with Mike for 10 minutes if he agrees no problem there is that credit well that's an opinion what you're what you're typing there mer Andrew is just an opinion so you've registered your opinion and you know that reflects on you too having that opinion so now you're on record with your opinion but it I don't know why like like that consumes the amount of hours of every day of your life that it does that's Obsession that looks like mental health to me I have seen you initiate aggression toward Mike over and over and over you are an aggressor you are not an innocent victim here and when I can point I can point it out next time it happens it's not a strong don't gasl and make out like you are not also instigating where nothing's going on you're the one that throws the first stone many many times I've watched it happen and in fact there were several times we were going to have a conversation of what was behind it so you acknowledge that yes there is something that's driving you to be aggressive toward Mike we just haven't explored it yet so knowing that and having acknowledged it don't play the victim and you're you're the noble Hero trying to save the world for Mike Cerrone and warn us about him will you debate juet it's gonna be the same nonsense over and over again that's not a debate going to be his talking point well I I guess debate it doesn't have to be debate that was the wrong word 10 10 minutes it could be anything and Jeff could pretend to play a debate for 10 minutes for 10 bucks too it ain't that hard go for it right you know what I'm say no what I'm saying though is like the you don't okay you don't even under or you're pretending to not understand the concept of what that's opening up but never mind you got just keep doing your thing so if if Mike and womad agree I can give him 10 minutes to go at it sure okay bet I can't believe W has well first of all dis disrespectful is subjective so you can't tell me what I find disrespectful you can only talk about what you find disrespectful and that's not what the conversation was about I'm talking about your blatant acts of aggression toward Mike to instigate conflict when he's not doing anything well he wanted to okay if I remember correctly this guy paid money for Mike to go oneon-one with anybody for 10 minutes right right okay so what if it was like Elon Musk he can do it if if Elon agrees to do 10 minutes with Mike I'm notna I'm gonna let it happen what if it was like Rudy Giuliani they could do it if Elon and Rudy want to come out here and blood sports for 10 minutes some reason it's not intriguing to hear mikee and other people argue for 10 minutes well to somebody out there it's worth 10 bucks so exactly that that is point yeah no that's a point I honor it too I'm actually honoring it further by looking into it wondering why well juad do you want to come up and he probably doesn't do the 10 minutes he said he well M Mike agreed so and juat wanted to do it the other days timing might be right at this point pH many times Effy I said even I'm curious at this point having seen this phenomenon happen so many times I mean Mike's right I could probably predict the loop but I do feel obligated to deliver what was paid for if you think there won't be any pay back either that'll be hilarious oh there probably will people get I I I always try to figure out people get fix it on other people good or bad but they just it it is it is unhealthy like I said we're not worried about what you think we're worried about if this guy's going to come up or not right okay everybody else is is we're doing the 10 minutes ridiculous as I thought prior okay we're gonna be spectors H hang on real quick no if it gets really personal or ugly I'm I'm gonna end it so no so just to address your earlier comments Jeff I think oh you okay yes I totally agree it's you don't want people trolling you you don't want a bunch of trolls in the chat and people doing that including myself is disrespectful but I don't know why you don't call out Mike for also being disrespectful by lying I don't see Mike attack and when he does go after other people I do backstage it or call him out or put a stop to it but I don't see Mike doing it with the frequency that I see it being done to him and the people that are being that that are doing it to him are trying to portray themselves I think as more innocent than they actually are yeah so it's it's this it's this like virtue signaling along with it and I don't think anything that these people are doing are virtuous at all on any side so I agree I I think it's all around unhealth and dysfunction in general sure that's what trolling is about right and I'm trying to support something different than that here so I I want a limited amount of that here I'm trying to not do dysfunction and unhealth here but I will I will let y'all get whatever out for the next 10 minutes or so okay all right um do you want to go first Mike no I really have nothing was it Biz that you went to that had all the Dutch speaking people or did you misspeak when you said that you didn't say that I didn't say Dutch you didn't say that in you went to bise you didn't say you went to B and there were Dutch people Dutch speaking people no oh you never said that okay um did you tell um a panel of women who were discussing um Sebastian Rogers um and two of the women on that panel had lost their sons you know they've been kidnapped or they died did you tell them that you've been a licensed therapist since you stopped being a policeman in your 20s you didn't say I didn't say that that's a blatant lie I said that I counsel at my church that's what I said okay I believe you told them you were a therapist and a therapist said I'm not liced I counsel at my church I counsel at my church so you're not gonna Corner me in your [ __ ] see the problem with you is this you fixated on jojo probably someone before him now you fixing it on me and you know I I honestly think in my real hearts of hearts that you're a sick old person that has to obsess over somebody I'm sorry you didn't have the life I have I have a fun life I have a good I have kids you can't have kids you never experienced family you don't know what you're talking about I tell you what I don't talk about you I don't bring you up I don't make memes about you I don't I don't need to have I don't need to have kids to know what languages they speak let me tell let me tell you something if I wanted to I could blow you out of the water with memes with with videos I don't do that because when I log off I'm done I don't take this home I don't take it offline it's done it's clearly entertainment and that's it that's all it is it's entertainment to go on you take it to a different level you take it to a different level you have no argument you have no dog in the fight you say the same same looping [ __ ] over and over and over again that's that's what you do it's the same talking points over and over and over come up with some new stuff and all the gay stuff Jeff's gay I have no problem with that he knows that I'm not gay and you're putting dildo is in my mouth what is wrong with you man that's disrespectful the gay people you're a gay man right why you putting dildos in front of a straight man's face because of the reaction you're showing right now it's disgusting you're not showing any respect to my heterosexuality but I show respect to Jeff's homosexuality but you can't why do I you respect because you hate all straight my respect you hate all straight that's what you do so you did to Joe now you're do it to me okay you have to have one person in your let me know when you finish guarante guar want to do a monologue I guarantee do a monologue when when you when you log off you sit there and you go okay soneone you probably bre a cold sweat what is wrong with you man can I speak sure please are you done are you done no I'm not I'm far from done okay okay um okay okay could you tell what we have this written down is a questionnaire no no okay are you done did you tell people in Vegas Valley that people could never find your address because you have a top seat secret clearance no you never said that okay did I have a secret clearance yes for work that you didn't say that people could never find your address because of that top secret clearance what are you talking about what don't you understand about the question I remember saying that I said I see you take different statements and you put them together as one someone had asked me if I had a secret clearance I said I had one at one time for for work just for my job do last year that you're a federal agent no you never said that you were a federal agent never I I think I've said that about a thousand times where the FBI thing came from I don't know why where the level that listen you're this I believe so I believe where the level 27 thing came from is someone asked you is your clearance level above 27 or is your clearance level 26 and you said it's no I didn't no I didn't you didn't say someone asked hold on level 20 is a civilian they said is yours higher than that I said a little bit higher because I have to go inside the building not outside there's no such thing as a level 20 security clearance yes there is yes there that's not cences work they don't have numbers okay they don't have numbers there's pay scales right you've got gs1 GS2 what's the next question I'm not talking about my job go ahead well cuz you don't have one I don't no I don't work I don't think so how do you know because you're on panels I say you're on panels for 12 hours at a time 12 hours I'm on panels probably no longer than two to three hours now I've seen you on like three panels in a day on like two hours three hours each yeah yeah so if I'm off the next day I can stay on late from off I work seven days a week okay and there'll be two days where I'm not on do you keep a bottle of liquor down by your left foot when you're on penals I don't drink anymore you don't drink at all wow you don't drink out of a with a liquor bottle in a brown paper bag I don't drink at all never done that I don't drink it all when did you quit how long's that pain probably about two months ago month and a half month and a half so before that last year were you drinking on panel out of a brown paper bag on the weekends yeah okay wasn't on a Tuesday that you were drinking paper bag no I don't think so it was on the weekend let me ask a question why is that your concern because people who have uh Who hide their drinking um typically have a problem with alcohol have you ever heard believe you do you why don't you R though so we're at a mute point I don't drink okay so when did you become an alcohol counselor I'm not an alcohol counselor I've never made that claim I've never claimed I'm a therapist I've never claimed I'm a tell tell you something about I've never claimed people from a burning building I love I love how fake claimed I've been around the world multiple times I around the world I've been to Dr twice and I've been to bise once that's it oh you haven't been to Haiti we went into Haiti for a short time we were like yo we got the [ __ ] out okay so you have been to Haiti you write down so you remember the right answer so you've told Jeff less than a week ago that you've been around the world more than once no I didn't never said that never said around the world you're a [ __ ] liar Dr twice beli once and we stuck into he ran the [ __ ] back out this is why I think you drink because you can't remember what you said Dr week ago I don't drink you little snotty [ __ ] you're a snotty little all right gotcha time's it all right you want to get off okay I just can't take much a look at your ugly ass face you look like Dracula okay yeah anything else did is time up Jeff hey I said personal attacks Mike that's it Dracula thing and all that yeah basically I Joe je Jeff I never said I traveled around the world multiple times I don't remember you saying that he's just he's making [ __ ] up no no I didn't whatever he said it's on stream like somebody could just show that that's not even anything to argue about he makes stuff up he just makes [ __ ] up but it's all this is so easy to resolve all of it's on stream so you said this no I didn't yes you did look here it is it's the same stream where you said you went to Haiti okay is that the most exciting or Sensational or controversial thing that's happened in your life in the last few weeks because I remember the conversation it lasted about three seconds ni I don't remember it being around the world nope not at all well that was pointless but hey you got your credit full so okay well actually technically there's like a couple more minutes and I'm willing to let it go um like I want some kind of closure so I'll let it go there's not going to be I have no problem not talking about him doesn't talk about me but he can't he can't stop his obsession he can't stop his OBS I will so I owe Jeff an explanation of the origin of the animosity between us um and it goes back to you know I have been trolling Mike for a while but Mike was on a panel with Joe Amo one day and Joe and another person was saying that I've been convicted of you know sexual assault on children and Mike said I am a groomer that I groom children and since then I I want to let him get this out I want to let him get this and Mike has always denied this um the other reason is there was a stream a serious stream non-drama channel a true crime Channel about the missing autistic child Sebastian Rogers I think I remember was that like in North Carolina or somewhere yeah exactly like a few months ago it was all in the news and the host had two grieving women two women on the panel who had lost their children they' been kidnapped or something terrible happened to them I can't remember and Mike in the chat said I'm a therapist and form a law enforcement can I come up and he came up and he told them that he was a policeman in his 20s and they asked him how long have you been a therapist and he said since I left the police force in the 20s people say he said licensed therapist I don't I'd have to go back and watch whether he said licensed therapist um Mike has reframed that as saying no I said I was a I do counseling at my church but he didn't tell that to these women he's told the counseling story um to do that to grieving women that did tell him anything what did he tell him that was horrible he gave him some advice on you know how to manage their grief to Gaslight them into thinking he's a therapist I think that's pretty sick so so those two things calling you a groomer and allegedly pretending to be a therapist for this these widows those are the two things that put him on this target list and now there's like this vigilante justice mob out to what do what um have people know that he's a li chronic liar and he manipulates people so he doesn't get away with it garbage but the the but it sounds like it's personal because of the grooming like personal because of that that's yep that makes it personal too yep so it's like that because I remember when I originally asked you I said is this like a revenge on the bully thing or or like yeah g is it Rel to Gay and being pers and I wanted to have the clips before I came up and you know told you this but I don't have him um you know prepared cuz cuz if he said that or even if you perceived him to have said that like I understand that the exper like I understand the feelings behind it the reaction but this doesn't seem like the the healthiest way to cope with or handle that that reaction what whatever air com brought up in you it's not produ yeah yeah it's just fun for me at this point it's entertainment yeah it seem but it kind of like a sadistic fun it seems like it's shading FR yep yep all right so I guess it's so bad to tell some ladies and try to help them through grief that's that's a terrible thing to do well I think it's like they feel like you deceive them by passing thems yourself off as more professional or expert than you were in the situation in their hour of grief but I don't see that as that big of a deal like what I didn't see the actual stream just the experience I've had with you it doesn't seem like you would deliberately oh here's a chance to pretend to be a therapist it it Whatever Happened on the stream I'm sure it's being interpreted in a certain way but usually this the stuff against you when I actually look at it myself is much less than it's narrated to me or presented to me so I suspected something along those lines it's probably not this huge egregious crime against humanity yeah so let me let me catch let me catch w bet in a lie so his he's basing all of his sick stuff he's doing on me calling him an essay Central say and a groomer Joe Amo said that and you admitted a couple weeks ago well Mike didn't say it but he co-signed it you said that those are your words in other words co-signing is not disagree but co-signing is not that I said it I didn't say that someone else on panel said it and I didn't I didn't answer so he said the word you said was great no no no I didn't say those words didn't come out of my mouth is it on a stream is it something that he could go check and confirm for himself but whatever you said like whatever the details were it set off an inner subjective experience within wombat so whether you actually said it or he P It Whatever something happened that caused the change in wombat toward you but Jeff he said himself I on on everything he said himself well yeah Mike didn't say it but he did coign it it's just like the story just the way I just told it yeah I didn't say it bro I never said those words about you I don't know talking never those words about okay you can go back and watch five minutes ago what I said did you say a couple weeks ago I never said it but I co-signed it but I never said it which po there's two said that okay well we can clear this up right now it doesn't matter what happened then Mike what is what is your position about wbat his sexuality or whatever you think he I don't care I don't care anything about him I don't consider him a friend or an enemy just stay away from me I don't care what you do in your life good luck good luck but you got to cut that Obsession man it's not good for you but the the obsession what you're calling the obsession is based on this this feeling that he was attacked or insulted by you over this grooming thing thinking about thinking about somebody 24 hours a day is not healthy unless it's not just you it's what you what you said or did that day it's a specific right now M that keeps it going so I I think you said something like that s you might not have used the exact word but you cuz you're not like going out of your way to like correct it in any kind of way like oh that's absolutely oh I'm so sorry you had that impression I didn't mean that at all here's what I meant instead you're not doing that so you're like yeah I know that something was said and I know what he's talking about I can't say sorry for something I didn't say but you said something no there was something something happened between the two of you that day some exchange yeah listen listen from you to him it's all right listen the bottom line is this and it is true and I hate to be cheesy but the more more you harass somebody over the Internet it can become cyber bullying it can this conversation is consensual this conversation is consensual and and I I I now believe that you're harassing me over the internet you can block me in chat if you don't want to see what I type in chat don't block you I'll take it somewhere else because what you're doing is you're monetary gaining bullying online you're you're making money offing that is me he's monetized is he streaming right now aren't you monetized what me youed yeah well we we've already gone over the in fact we've gone over 15 minutes so like that part that part we can in like that's cleared and so I'm gonna bring I'm gonna bring the panelist back I'm you people done talking hey thank you Jeff thanks for moderating that take care Mike well he guys what's up he hey record what's going on you're right do you have Labor Day in Britain sorry I didn't mean sir I've been having an okay day thanks I I've only been um listening about 10 15 minutes maybe but I saw Mike and W arguing and I I didn't like it so I didn't like where it went and be you know just stop with the ad hominum attacks please guys it's not it's not nice it's not going to stop it's not going to stop these are grown adults and it's not going to stop there's too much hurt anger the stop you're willing to host it Jeff and try and that was paid that was paid previously on another stream and they didn't get to do it so that was me clearing out that debt okay are you um can I ask you a question Jeff are you a therapist I'm a peer counselor counselor peer counselor oh wow that's cool I I did a counseling course once well three week three weeks of a four-week course but I learned enough and I've read enough books yeah so I I like cancelling people it's good fun Jeff would you go to a therapist that wasn't licensed that wasn't what licensed they don't have therapists that aren't licensed here in the U like you could they couldn't advertise themselves as a therapist they could advertise advertise as a life coach or something but it I don't know how they would even promote their business as an unlicensed therapist right uh well this is something Mike said before and that's that he has a degree it's like hold on I just I personally don't care about no no no no this is my panel dude we're moving on from the mic drama I'm wrapping it up so we can get another one or two sentences in but this stream is not going to be the mic I don't care what he said that day I don't care I don't care if he gave the impression that he was a therapist that he's techically on the list of things for me to worry about in my life it rises nowhere near the top or the middle or even the high bottom my priorities are completely different the things that interest me are completely different that does not stay on my radar at all I don't care y'all are way more obsessed about it than I am how do y'all hey hey Jeff can I just say one thing regarding what you guys are just doing I won't I mean I'm not going to ATT of course I just got here I just I just walked in the door and yall I I'm really upset that I missed the last half hour whatever was going on but Mike and Wombat what I noticed I'm probably wrong and I'll watch it back that was about as healing as I've ever seen y'all Jeff great job that was actually oh my god wow and I was like there's no these two are not there's no hope for this this is not going to ever go anywhere so maybe that is maybe that's as healed as it gets like acknowledging that that was the most civil discussion I I missed whatever it happened and I'm sure other things happen really the last five minutes I was very um typical Spiker here but I was very proud of y'all you guys yeah Pat Mike Mike can lie but they're not allowed to point it out on my stream because I get to control and decide the content I won't own My Stream I'm not forbidding anybody from calling out Mike sles God knows you could find a thousand examples of them doing it right here on this stream so that's way disingenuous but they are not allowed to do it on my panel when I decide that I don't want it on my panel I don't know why it's so hard to understand basic respect for a panel host God damn anyway I was very shocked so I'll watch the rest but good job for the last three minutes also can can I as an outside spectator who does next to nothing about any of this can I just make a comment sure um and I'll I'll make no judgments on who's right I'll just say for the for the for the side that is against Mike if your goal is to stop this person's influence or the spread of whatever you want to call it what you're doing is the exact opposite sure of what you should be doing you are you are creating a attention points that people will want to see because of the drama therefore giving him more attention so if that is your goal you're you're doing the opposite of it so the goal is mostly about having fun oh well then and entertainment if that's the case yeah that's entertainment at Mike's expense that makes you the sadest that makes you the aggressor and that's not what I'm into on this channel I'm not I'm not into making it that kind of Channel where people can act out those kind of primitive impulses it's just not I'm going to take you off if there's any more mic drama y'all are gone it's over I'm done with it for the day for a while I'm glad it was healing and productive I think we've taken it as far as we could take it today got it might right okay I'm gonna go grab some coffee I'll be back cool man so E I was talking last time I talk to you last time a little bit um did you say that you mainly do like you do you teach acting is that what you do um I've been a director for 13 years at this point so just most mostly in practice I I don't do too many classes yeah was it like um plays and stuff like that yeah theatrical yeah that's cool man these um a lot of art stuff in Virginia a lot of art schools BCU is it it's half art half medical school um lot of art stuff around here Art Museum I'm really into art yeah hi M um I didn't I know animed Effigy I've I've never met you Mike before soce meet hi nice to meet you man I'm in um just to introduce myself a bit I'm in uh England on the south coast uh near the beach um so I'm I'm living here at the moment so you you've lived your England your whole life like you've never lived anywhere else yeah pretty much yeah yeah I've I've traveled like I've I've I've been to many places around the world but yeah never uh not M I've not migrated yet but I certainly have plans too and dreams of dreams of doing that yeah what's it like living over there I mean what what's the deal routine is just like because America's crazy yeah it's crazy sometimes I mean I live in a small City so it's uh it's quite busy there's there's you know all kinds of things going on there's there's nightclubs there's 24hour um shops where you can buy alcohol quite close um there's strip clubs there's prostitutes there's you know hard drugs there's there's beggars there's a lot to there's a lot to watch out for so but it's fun there's a lot to do never boring never board is it really true it Reigns all the time uh most of the time yeah yeah maybe two thirds twoth thirds of the time it it probably rains in Britain but it's worse up nor it's much worse up North so the F North Britain Oh you mean North SC north of England and and Scotland gets really cold and rainy and even snowy up there but we haven't seen the snow down in the South for probably about five maybe four or five years we only had a tiny little bit in I think it was February January February one one year it wasn't even much but we get nice Summers um so it's not a bad place to live it's pretty cool when you know when you know what's what yeah Daddy's ho what does daddy have for us oh now that we got this [ __ ] back in order you know Daddy that's the one honestly I mean say did you say panel daddy is that what you said the other day um yeah I say a lot pan p d panel Daddy are like the parent panel that a YouTuber comes from but it could also be like somebody that could organize your channel and bring yeah like order to the chaos like like a super mod like a super mod get it all together yeah or producer something yeah see but I'm like Napoleon I'll take all the [ __ ] troops into Russia in the winter just just because I'm all fired up like I don't give a [ __ ] that we're losing uh it's it's just you know it's the right thing to do like I I saw the troops coming at Mike I was like I was like come on Jeff come on Jeff put up the barrier got to protect your your Golden Goat over here your Golden Goose but I got to do what's fair and and sometimes it's not always protect Mike sometimes it's protect other people from Mike and so I have to be prepared to make make either decision in the moment according to what happen that's not what I saw though what I saw was the man came up here to add some content and uh next thing you know he got bombarded cuz well you saw from a producer Point like what's going to make good and then I saw Lanza like he doubled down on dumb like he wasn't even funny about it and it was like I love Lan maybe I have a blind spot toward Lanza but I love Lan I mean no there's nothing wrong with Lanza but in the moment it was just shitty production it was terrible and then and then wombat like I mean his excuse for chasing Mike down this whole time sadistic pleasure I get pleasure same thing as snafu yeah I get pleasure out of persecuting punching down and persecuting this LC so and I think he's funny as [ __ ] but at the same time it's like you know come on man like we're we're if we're all going to keep getting together like this and you guys all want to have conversations together it's time to grow the [ __ ] up that's all I got to say yeah well that that's nice to say but we have to demonstrate it too and so I try to identify the elements that are most contributing to the decline of the convers and right now it looks like it's wombat and his sadistic aggression like this this Kink he gets from persecuting Mike and it's entertainment and if if that's going to continue that's going to be a problem for the community and it's not coming from Mike so if you have a community and you have one person in the community who gets sadistic pleasure from attacking and persecuting another member well that's the person that's most putting the community at risk right so check this out guys so we're all we're all sleeping right we're in a village right and uh Jeff is like the Baker and Mike is the priest and cap gun is uh the warrior and Effigy whatever we all have our own parts right we all go home for the night right well wombat's the dude in the cemetery digging up bodies so he can do like Voodoo and [ __ ] on him you know like that's the kind of crazy [ __ ] like like he's the guy in the basement like you know he he's fu he's the guy torturing someone in the basement we're like where's Freddy at you know I haven't seen Freddy for a week man um you know and then all of a sudden like you see womach cleaning up his hands outside in the back he's washing his hands he's got a big old smile on his face goes about town you know buys his bread and stuff talks to everybody in town and and just friendly with everybody right but at the same time it's like this [ __ ] is doing some crazy [ __ ] in the basement right Scot is like that I think I think we got to peek into the basement today and that's what happened yeah a good analogy oh have a good Labor Day Jesus sorry I'm I'm not um American what what is Labor Day that's a good question what exactly is Labor Day we celebrate workers definition the definition if you look it up I saw is it celebrates um L collar workers and unions yeah the labor movement technically it's the labor movement that I think I think I'm for that definitely you don't wear white on Labor Day I thought it was after Labor Day like this is the last day you canar I'm wearing gray is that okay oh that's why everybody's jumping on Mike today cuz he's wearing a white shirt so he's doing a fa and oh my God it's like it's like not wearing green on St Patrick's Day yeah um okay my my brother-in-law um he's he's in the um he it was hard him to get in but he got into um you know the teamsters and um man they they protect you they really do and those unions man those unions we look out for people even [ __ ] for me well he's an elevator got fired yeah you have to have tenure you have you have to have tenure if you're in a then it's one thing but if you're like if you have tenure in there it kind of I guess if if I can get 10e if the union doesn't really help me till I get 10 year I'm not going to need him at that point I need him when I'm new and I'm I'm struggling to get established but you got to pay your dues anyway it sucks yeah I know I know but yeah suck this Labor Day is it do do they am I guessing they celebrate by taking by taking a day of work and you know and it's like a federal too like all the banks closed and the let me explain to you guys what most of the corporate beta mails inauthentic corporate beta mails do on Labor Day you know what they do they go to the store they buy their 24 pack they buy their burgers and their dogs and their ribs and they go home and they wave their [ __ ] flag that was made in China all they're cooking their hot dogs and their burgers and their their you know putting on their wife beaters and uh their children are running around in the back you know and they're they're just act you know drinking Mountain Dew and acting all [ __ ] crazy and [ __ ] cuz they got all this sugar and high fructose corn syrup and yellow five in their diet H that's what they're doing okay and we celebrate that right we celebrate drunkenness uh debauchery we celebrate junky food and and all kinds of stuff like that praise God I hate drunk food personally I can't stand it oh that's uh well give me all of yours then because that's my whole diet basically well some occasionally that that's a bit of a lie I guess occasionally I'll eat it with you know usually if somebody somebody else is ordering it or having it but uh or paying for it indeed but um no I I I try and eat healthy I really do and I've become i' I've found I've actually become healthier as I've got older generally like for healthy habits oh moose you're breaking up a bit that wasn't me oh got I've got a beautiful woman here that beautiful lady that cooks Cooks great food for me did you get her from the strip club no no it's been a while since I've I've been there so no we met on on the street in you know in real life we strip that's what I heard right before I right before I hopped on panel you were talking about uh strip clubs and and uh stuff like that one we got lady crab face down there she's trying to get me all in my feelers I am now I'm now on the mic Sone level I have gotten myself some trolls bet little boys growing up you know what's funny folks I made not be the biggest toughest strongest person around but I got a beautiful family I got a house I got I got what everything I need right and I and I'm willing to help other people get everything they need that's the kind of guy I am praise God wow that sounds like a horribly oppressive slave existence look at Jeff stomping on the balloon come on man it's a good thing help yeah cap I've gotta say cap gun really is I like cap gun hi guys hello ince you to my uh my friend oh hey we have a Tatiana Tatiana welcome Happy Happy Labor Day nice to meet you nice to meet you guys seriously really really good life really great but what I was going to say so U before I actually start so I'm British Ukrainian so I'm Ukrainian really but yeah so basically what I was going to say about St B you made me laugh actually um because um well um we used to go to this trip club right we have this trick Club in now um in town center and uh we used to go there literally as students and stuff so we could get free sandwiches we used to eat for free the girls yeah that that's what we used to go and do yeah so yeah so oh would there be women stripping in the background while you're eating your sandwi abs absolutely yeah most interesting accent English and the Ukrainian accent I love I love your accent with dance with like dance club music playing like at 160 DBS when you're trying to have a nice meal and they do play the music really light in though anybody in there when I went dag more that's the life do do it us no I'm I'm in my 40s now I don't really I don't really go out much these days not much hle you know it's so much more comfortable to be home you know just stay home you know it's Comfort I mean look at what you have fingeres most nights yeah but it's also changed after co co basically when it um UK was hit with Co basically everything has changed completely it changed a lot didn't totally a lot of things have got back to normal like people are just going partying again now and you know just it's not quite the energy is not quite the same though people it's obviously more fear more fear generated to people you go to you go for lunch or you know to buy stuff you know and mind you you know people here they're not you know particular Rich at the moment there are crisis cost living crisis in UK cost living crisis it's awful it's terrible but anyway so you go to pop right or bar and you have to pay about I would say in in um US Dollars about 12 bucks for a beer seriously one small beer come on are you kidding me you know so people people stop doing this you know it's like know they're having outside barbecues and they're having picnics and they're trying to enjoy themselves just as much you know as they used to but it's not the same anymore people have for gotten how to um present themselves uh how to get out and dress up or it just it's it's not the same it's just it's completely literally not the same as it used to be and I've lived in UK now for 27 and a half years and I have never seen UK been so I would say poor you know really not nice D trodden yeah yeah oh wow but it's the like I said it's the fear it's the Fear Factor and people afraid of you know diseases they're they're afraid of getting you know infected whatever they're afraid of uh War you know getting a bomb drops on their head or getting shot whatever and they're afraid of you know people are afraid of each other for [ __ ] sake yeah there's all these different groups you know religious groups there's a lot of stories going around about different people our groups you know our group our group our little group we got here and you know I'm certainly I'm proud to proud to be a part of it because I think I I just really I I appreciate and respect the way you run your channel Jeff different to anybody else out there thank you that's good to hear sometimes it's true anyway guys can ask you actually you know how is it Go in um in the US because but obviously well I do watch the news and stuff you know how not sometimes all the time without you but anyway how how is it how is their atmosphere what are you guys feeling about all this obviously I'm a Ukrainian but how are you feeling what is what is going to happen are we going to end up with third world war god hope not I'm optimistic I I don't have the I'm not catching the Doom Trend that's going around um I think we're going to be fine and my life is fine I don't have all this anxiety that people have and I think some of it is cu they see things on social media their brain puts together all these little nightmare scenarios yes and they have stories themselves about the like the Threat Level and threat potential of people in groups that I think is not very correspondent to their actual threat yeah yeah they exaggerate exaggerate I think yes I think we're in the age of exaggeration and hyperbolic hyperbolical like inflammation inflammation can I also ask you about this because we're obviously you know because of the propaganda and media and all obviously you know fake news and everything so what has happened to Biden was he really of his face or something not right in himself or is it true what is he I mean he's just old like and and one one side basically like had a conversation with him all sides of the democratic party came to him were're like look the polling is going bad in the old guy versus old guy fight we think you're gonna lose and it was basically a sense of the entire Democratic establishment convincing him to step down it was his choice so he ultimately agreed they persuaded him yeah they persed him I don't think people made him I think they persuaded him I don't I don't think they can make it did did Ricardo transition into a woman while I walked outside Ukrainian okay who hangs out at strip clubs I was like holy [ __ ] I didn't know there was I was very non-binary quick question for you Jeff uh and for the chat all the all the haters out there what what is the problem with setting the bar of respect setting a standard of respect uh on this stream for for one another when you come here you have it you know what's wrong with that is there is there anything wrong with it do you think it's uh you think it's censoring too much you think you think it should be allowed everybody treat each other like [ __ ] or um I I'll give you I'll give you my thoughts on it how how exactly do you go about setting that bar is the first question because I do try to but secondly for me it's it's also intrinsic motivation and respecting the right like the autonomy of each panelist to do that for themselves and have me not have to enforce it and if they can't I can take them off the panel but I don't want to have to raise adults I don't want to have to Baby grown adults I don't want to have to teach grown adult like so if they can't show up just intrinsically motivated and many people on the panel do Effigy is a great example and if they can't show up like that if they don't have that intrinsic motivation because they see the value of the community and they come here to try make it better I my I'm not drawn to the role of helping groom people to become that like I want the people that are already at that level and so part of it is just if if I don't want to have to refor enforce respect because I want to attract the people that already bring it that don't need it enforced you have you have who you have right now sorry right that's why I I do make compromises they show up at very varing levels of that so I have the ideal and then I have a certain range that I'm willing to work in but if it gets too far below that range I remove them but my point is is at what point do you sit in your panelist shoes and and try to empathize with their situation before before thinking about yourself is like what's an example before kicking them off well I mean think about how it would feel to be Mike right I'm not saying to do anything I'm just saying he comes over here to have a conversation with you Jeff and I'm not put I'm not trying to put you on the spot but you're the host right now so that's why I'm using you as an example comes over to or me I'm gonna use me comes over to hang out with me and talk with me have a conversation with me and the people I have around me and when he comes here he's you know there's all of a sudden there's a bunch of people that are making comments about his wife his mom him uh you know repeatedly throughout the whole chat there's not a conversation uh there's not actually a conversation going on in the chat anymore it's basically just thrashing him how do you think he would feel like sitting here going through that every day how do you think that's really good for his mental health but I'm not the keeper of his mental health like I know but I look back at the stream he's a grown adult he could he could bring it up he could he does a lot of times who comment and I I noticed where I fell short and I I am going to hold the measure that I have and I'm not going to I'm not going to sit on panels that are going to allow that [ __ ] because you're not going to bring the people you want here are attacking other people no it's not going to happen you're not going to bring a higher level when you've got a lower level sitting in the chat that are willing to take it to the to the nuts and lower it's not going to work like that you're not going to get the people you want and you're not going to keep the people that are that are here like am Mike's going to keep coming back how many times is he going to get kicked in the nuts before he goes you know what I'm gonna find somebody else that wants to have a conversation and and doesn't disrespect me by letting these people continue acting like animals in the chat and and it's neither here nor there but that's how I feel about this situation I put myself in his shoes for a moment I felt like an [ __ ] I came up I apologized to him I was genuine in my apology and I'm going to correct my behavior and I'm going to try to hold a higher standard you know I'm not going to allow this [ __ ] at my place I I I yield okay that was a lot that was almost too much to try to address no no I think that was very constructive and I think to answer his question you know it would really affect a lot of people oh you went on mute you muted Mike you muted I'm sorry I think it it would affect people badly but it really honestly doesn't get to me I I just feel sorry for these people the obsession just this is only my opinion the obsession that they have and the hatred that they have doesn't warrant the actions of the past it doesn't it's like if I was Ted Bundy or something you know it just doesn't make any sense so the hatred is two comments that you're claim you keep muting for some reason even Mike's mic doesn't like him right I'm I'm I'm gonna step off I'll be right back I see rest be back all right all right it wasn't to get all hot and heavy I just was like trying to set his no I mean I I delete comments all the time that I feel like are are going after after mic too hard so it's not like I don't moderate the mic comments but if people are I manage the panel like I manage it I'm I've never claimed I'm going to be it 100% And the solution to people that are dissatisfied with how I manage the panel is to just not participate in the panel I I feel like people are trying to micromanage me through their criticism and feedback where they could just start their own channel and then just model how they want it done but Moose on your channel I I hear what you're saying and it's the same thing I've been saying but it's not like you're any better at it on your channel than here because people get attacked on your channel too that's true so the standard you're trying to say that you won't set on a panel you're not setting yourself I'm I just said today I said I noticed it I I reviewed my old video I saw what you know where I fell short and that's that's where I want to go forward I want to move forward and I want to do better because like we're not going to get the panelists that are going to stay around the people that are going to really want to network with us if they start getting attacked uh I think the people so far it's not stopping Mike but I feel like I am I'm happy want to have conversations with them like in the chat we want to have people that have conversations with us Jeff and people that have conversations with the topic we don't want to have like ad homonyms flying around all the time that's all I'm saying yeah no I but I would prefer not to have the at homonyms but as long as they don't fall outside of a certain range I'm not going to take up my chat time constantly moderating those comments like I the chat bothers me less than what's on the panel so if the panel wants to have one conversation and the chat wants to go go after each other with all this drama that doesn't really bother me all that much I'm going to I'm going to run my like molini and you run your [ __ ] like Jeff yeah and it's all good there's no there's you know okay well I it sounded like there was a different message in there than that it was all good no it it's all good different venue it's a different bar it's a different bar but I'm I'm happy with the bar I've set and I'm happy with the panelist that's attracting so like you're saying I'm not going to get to what I'm trying to get if I do this but I am getting to where I'm trying to get you're going to be upset when you see the fall of of losing like if Mike steps away You're Gonna Lose 30 viewers like right off the bat you're gonna lose 30 viewers because I think I'll be okay I understand that but but it's gonna hurt the bigger it gets the bigger it gets and the more the bigger people you attract and and the more people just walk away from you and your channel goes back to to 400 people so far that hasn't like if it happens nothing like that's happened coming back the numbers have consistently gone up I'm getting more viewers I'm like like what you're what you're describing is going to happen if this could is not happening the opposite just like Mike people saying Mike's bad for the channel every time he shows up the number Skyrocket didn't I just say that not drama though Jeff huh is it how much of that is drama related it's all Dr related when he I don't think it is I think we have a good balance of drama drama light and good conversations like like I said it's my panel and I'm satisfied with what it's producing like so if people are not they can help it produce something better by contributing to the conversations or they can find panels that fit better with what they're looking for I don't know what people are trying to do get me to do by telling me all this stuff yes je us you're T cotting Us by saying you don't want feedback no I'm not saying I don't want feedback I'm saying the feedback is registered I'm matching I'm matching the feedback up to how I run the panels and I'm not seeing anything that to worry about well then you you've registered it and the main feedback I think was the drama in the chat like set a certain standard of etiquette for the chat so that that there's less drama in the chat it's more in line with the conversations we're having on the stream and I would love that that's an idea it's fine you don't mind [ __ ] so like I'm cool with it no I'm half [ __ ] myself this this channel is set up for a certain amount of retardedness that's so ni just by virtue of being a neurod Divergent space it's set up for that that is so cool Jeff thank you that is so cool you're autistic Jeff is that is that right yeah somewhere on the do you believe in the spectrum is there a spectrum of autism from one side to another spectrum is like a clumsy way of phrasing it but it's very individual we're talking about like multiple traits that could cluster in very particular ways from Individual to individual so I I'm more trait based I look at the specific traits how are they impacting the person what effects are they causing the person's for the impacting the functionality Etc and then come up with solutions for whatever the problem each the problems each trait is causing I don't necessarily need to think of it as something called autism or something called ADHD or something called neuro Divergence I could focus it on the specific manifestations of it so neurod Divergence or Spectrum captures the broad category yeah but but that's about it it's really just a dis uish it from neurotypical cool I've had a few just I've had a few Au uh autistic friends mainly Asbergers if that if that means anything but uh it it means something to me I I kind of know the you're talking about but it doesn't have any clinical meaning anymore oh right is that old at least at least with the DSM I don't know if other countries do it differently but in the DSM okay Jeff oh it's such a great thing actually you you can talk about it um I'm going to ask you a question say I have um really good friend who is a little bit younger than me and uh he's British well English and uh he's the loveliest guy in the whole world just like yourself but basically he's autistic and he keeps telling people that he is but the fact is I can't spot it I can't see the difference at all you know whether he's or he isn't um I don't I did not understand where does it come from you know how does it show you know because the only um thing I actually show um well what I saw the difference in him was um he was losing his temper a bit more than oh like the regulation yeah and sometimes it's there's different types of losing the Tipper it could be a tantrum it could be a meltdown it could be spur rage so to the outside Observer it just looks like somebody losing their temper but there's actually different types of losing of the temper that can all look the same way but they're actually different things under the hood spur rage sounds familiar cuz my friend uh in the town I used to live in about 100 miles from here he uh uh he he he was he had Aspergers and he he basically he had ragers he he he got banned from every single public house he went into after a while CU he' just end up getting drunk and then just sping out and arguing with people for no you know no good reason yeah but that's nothing to do with anything it's a shame because he was a really he's a really good guy but I'm just saying I'm just pointing out one of his you know one one of the the negative um aspect of or of his condition it made trouble for him you know he didn't mean to he didn't mean any harm he's a really nice guy like do you know what I mean he's a lovely guy but like part of most if it's just fighting the people that could tolerate you uhhuh that's true he could only tolerate me for you know maybe a few hours at a time yeah I'll if if I get a few hours at of people I'll take it yeah but you know what this friend of mine basically he is the guy so he is the loveliest guy in the whole world really really nice guy but basically um the only thing that he does I he smokes weed and he grows it as well oh yeah so yeah so that helps him does it help I don't know does it it's I believe it does it certainly helps me with my depression mostly helps me LIF lift me out of my depression and uh you know help me see the lighter funnier side of life that's basically relaxes me and [ __ ] Steve welcome Happy Happy Labor Day hey what's up I just thought I'd the fun Big Steve in the house what's going on Welcome Back smoke weed every day what are you barbecuing [ __ ] no I labor every day I'm not going to labor on Labor Day oh you barbecue every day oh you labor no I work every day well so what are you doing for Labor Day are you not a goddamn thing you're looking at it what are you's doing with a la you're looking at he's just sitting doing what we're all doing are you going to have something delivered or is your wife going to cook something for you I'm sure we'll figure something out later all right so I'm guessing there is no fire fireworks in then no hell no no never mind we had fireworks for for um last week for for the a yeah comes on every year loads of planes flying around tanks on the beach spilling oil all over the place uh Army Army Recruitment centers um massive rides that just look dangerous to me children know you have heard about people red arrows red arrow they didn't come in Canada in can in Canada yes I think thing Americans do on Labor Day is a barbecue and watching baseball I think that's oh great that's the like traditional thing to do I've never watched baseball I'm so sorry U baseball what is in in English rers we we have an equivalent England it's called rinders we used to play at school and when we were kids and stuff but the the bats a lot smaller or a bit smaller and the um the balls smaller as well and we don't wear pads or protection or anything yeah we got four bases so first base second base third base and home like so so the first in home or not the same base yeah full circle basically in in instead of a square like diamond pagon pentagram no diamond shape it's only for only for for um move when in the US there's 4 to oh cool so it's it's Loosely based like a diamond it's yeah home first second third and then fourth is also home like the F the starting plate is also the end plate yes yes yeah you're right probably why we call it R rers because it it comes round full full circle Ricardo do you like Cricket no I don't I don't like I do I do I'm ricard's girlfriend I do and I watch um um I actually migrated 80% of effects in India so I had to go to India and everything and yeah that even children kids and stuff everyone SP Cricket in IND yeah I love it yeah I do you've watched Cricket in India I do yes I did why that was fun it is amazing seriously they children seriously they're tiny little babies and they're playing Cricket outside the house IND going nuts for Cricket don't they is they like definitely yeah I do yeah cool do do you like yeah it's confusing it's a weird Sports us yeah it's [ __ ] up like having to bounce the ball before they can hit like it's yeah it's interesting and the ball and the ball is solid wood so if that thing hits you goodbye to your elbow goodbye to your knee you know it's pretty heavy it's like a it's like a grenade that isn't that isn't explosive it's about as heavy as a grenade I expect um and you know the point of it is to bat the other guy hit the other guy out by hitting his wickets which the batter is trying to protect he's standing in front of the wickets but he's got to hit the ball but if it hits his leg before it hits the wickets then he's out and he's you know he's basically he's got be exchanged for another player gets he misses his turn and but if if the batter bats the ball like way like high they call it six sixer that's a really good you get six points MH Jeff are you if it hits someone in the audience then it's just absolutely hilarious or terrible is this going to be a long stream or just like a shorter one oh it's all day okay I'm gonna I'm gonna eat and I'll be back okay cool stuff I'll be back guys I'll probably be here through through the night I'm hungry I'm hungry I'll see you guys in a few yeah go get you something enjoy see you later um one more question um obviously in England here we support football well Richard doesn't but well I do I am a supporter so I support Tottenham team Spurs so I know that in America so so many people actually watch like Liverpool Manchester United blah blah blah who do you guys support do you support any of English teams for the American audience she means soccer soccer soccer is it socer she's talking about yeah it's football yeah we we Aman football team do y'all tailgate I don't know if they know what a tail I barely know American Sports as it is I know football is like our rugby oh I see oh no no it's different no but then there's two different kinds of rugby but that's another story rugby shares well to be honest it's like rugby come on you know it's like I did not support that sport you know because all the players have califlower ear and stuff you know like I don't get it I don't get it soccer is really popular in the US not not quite as popular as the upper echelon Sports basketball baseball football you have a team you have an international team don't you David Beckham actually was in one of them teams when he retired please well that's cool I mean we have a professional soccer league as well like an internal to the US professional soccer league I believe but you've never you I don't think I don't think you've achieved much much success over the years and double really nois me because America is huge you know and we all we see Italy we have England Alles they got their own games that every other people don't have so I also think that Americans should be included in EUR I mean if everyone else had games and we couldn't call our championships the World Championships because now we can just call it the world championship and it's because no one else plays it yeah so it's about your world rather than the the world it's like your world come American people serious they dictate seriously all Olympics they are wonderful brilliant seriously guys they're proud of you definitely yeah just football's not their game oh never mind but no it's like America always wins you know so many you know golden medals like ump amazing Michael Phelps one day one day was he American Michael Phelps yeah is that a good example American swimmer yeah that's it that's it Michael Jordan is another guy I respect a lot and I I don't know if anybody's everever seen that film Jordan it came out a few years ago I saw we saw it in the cinema and it's all about you know the rise how Jordan Rose Michael Jordan Rose to fame everything it's really really good mostly about Nike and just all the different things that he did with Nike and all the other people that wanted him but couldn't afford him or whatever couldn't treat him right Jordan pretty much started The Branding run where Brands would go after college players sold a hell of a lot of uh basketball shoes yeah I also like boxing I watch boxing boxing yeah that's when they punch each other in the head yeah but they're wearing they're wearing cushions around their hands so they don't really hurt each other that much takes a while takes a few hundred punches usually before someone's battered and bruised enough to be like for the ref referee to step in and be like no no no leave them you can't You've Won just but people like you know most people want they they want a knockout they want a big knockout Chuck what is what is this a panel of I don't know what this this I'll go check it out though I'm going to read the chat for the first time in ages why 12 the same old trolls that are always on you know what I find interesting about the Olympics though so in the US you know we would uh we would take these kids that obviously had a proficiency for it and we would we would bring them up and we would train them and we would dedicate a lot of training to them but the the the the the Soviets had a very different unique take on it is they wanted people that had the physical prowess to do it but not the natural talent and this is why I think you saw a lot of the battle between the US and and Russia because the crazy thing is is the Soviets that's all those kids would do would just practice practice practice practice practice practice that was their only job and the state took care of them while they were doing that and you still saw these marked differently results between the US and the Soviet Union where the US just dominated gymnastics in the 80s just dominated it and no matter how hard communism tried they just couldn't they just couldn't match the like the whole concept of Communism falls apart when you realize is like you actually have to have some natural talent to do the things that you want absolutely it was like one of the most curious Arguments for like anti-communism that you could actually get but one of the most poignant that's just one of the things about thep I know you I know you're saying these things but I just want to make something clear I I I am Ukrainian I'm not Russian I know you're sta in Soviet Union obviously I was brought up um in communism times and stuff but I I just want to to make it clear but that I'm not Russian I'm Ukrainian okay so just in case just in case because I know there are so many controversial things going on at the moment you know against Russia again well Ukraine obviously in the war and stuff you know but it's um I don't know I maybe I shouldn't have said it well or mentioned it or I but I am really really um conscious about this at the moment so yeah no good that you said yeah don't even worry about it I I feel bad for the Ukrainian people because I think a lot of Americans specifically don't understand the history of of Ukraine and the role that it played in Soviet Union and like you the holid deore and all of that kind of [ __ ] like people just don't understand why Putin wants Ukraine so much and it's like I I think people should read the history of Ukraine especially in relationship to the Soviet Union they need to read on the holid deore the the the the kolx the decool isation all of that stuff and you would have a much better idea of why the ukrainians are fighting so hard against Russia absolutely thank you so much for saying this I thank you so so much thank you and and for those people over here who are on the more like selfish isolationist side just just just the understanding of how much worse it would be for for everyone else if that were to happen if if you Ukraine were to fall to Russia or even uh uh you know hopefully not you know part large chunks of it given uh as soon as that happens like Europe lights up they start amassing toward a a toward a war footing you know you're already seeing like defense budgets go to places they haven't gone in 50 or 60 years in some places yeah so it's not like it's a good thing just because things would would stop in a in in a favorable way toward Putin yeah absolutely you know what there is there is one thing I'm actually gonna say um if if I may I'm sorry I don't want to interrup oh go ahead absolutely yeah so um so yes so basically um about this Ukraine thing um yes it's my country I am a nationalist I love my country just like you guys Americans you know you're Pro your country and everything you know Ukraine has been trying to become independent for many many years but the problem is it's like Russia would never let them to do so you know and Ukrainian just had enough they just said look you know we want to look well live like like people live in Europe we want to have um street lights on the streets in the streets and stuff you know we want to have McDonald's we want to drink Coca colola and stuff you know why is you know Russia dictating this to us you know why do we have to go through this so Bas they had enough they had enough and Ukrainian people they're quite you know they're great you know I mean come have a look you know Ukraine wins you know it's like football they're great you know they're good you know and and basic and the reason why the war has started really the real reason is because if Ukraine was to to become a part of Europe that meant that NATO was go going to um move into Ukraine which means that all the nuclear and everything all the dring bits and all the weapons would be faced against Russia so Ukraine and Russia were border each other and this is why Russia was so so scared and they still are you know because if NATO moves into um Ukraine they're done they're absolutely done you know and this is yeah it's always been the red line like he always wanted that buffer zone yeah well so the interesting thing is is is there's there's a certain amount of fallacious thinking if if we're going to agree with that and I I don't mean to be dismissive um or disrespectful it's just if you look at it and you say okay let's say that Putin is like he's sincere he doesn't want NATO on his front doorstep right no NATO's already on his front doorstep like the entire European Union is is NATO Allied so every country in Europe is a member of NATO NATO's already on his doorstep so I don't buy his excuse for that I'm I'm of the mind that he wants to he wants to reabsorb Ukraine like in the Soviet era because so the problem is if you don't know your your your Ukrainian history during the are you thinking more like the land Corridor kind of thing kind of but what happened was was during the decol isation Stalin took 250,000 um uh Soviet National um citizens and displaced them into Ukraine and so half of Ukraine was was was um was Russian and half of it was Ukrainian that's it that's right yes yeah so they he's using this this this very deeply flawed concept of nationalism to try and promote and endorse this idea of taking over Ukraine again and it's just like I think I think people need to understand a lot of the history and why it's interacting the way that it is because I is Tiana hugone yeah I'm I'm a huge fan of Russian literature and and Russian history like this entire bottom row of books is pretty much a lot of Soviet [ __ ] so I've read the gulag archipelago four times um train to pra is actually a friend of mine um I've got the economics of forced labor and the Soviet Union I've got Alexander pansen off um Alexander sanon 1914 you shanos FAL half measures Stalin by Alex dang Gulag by an apple bam like I love reading specifically Soviet history but Russian history for some reason I've just been infatuated with my whole life but um I think something that people need to understand about Ukraine is Ukraine is a very very sensitive issue when it comes to Soviet or to Russian politics because they see it as like the prodal child like they want to return the prodical child back to the back to the fold and ukrainians are like [ __ ] that [ __ ] we're a Sovereign Nation we want to be left alone get the [ __ ] out and that's why I love I love you I see I love you but that's why they're fighting so voraciously so first of all they're like the the colonist well that's what they're doing is they're trying to recolonize Ukraine but the the interesting thing is is that as the the the Soviet migrants and the Ukrainian um National um uh the what are what's the word I'm looking for the Ukrainian um the indigenous Ukrainian people started to blend and so you have like Russians have this incredibly rigorous like fighting Spirit like they are Fighters I mean you can't live in Russia and not be a fighter because the the the the weather is just brutal the the environment is just brutal you have to be a fighter and so now you've Blended these two these these two peoples together and now you've got extremely tough fighting spirits and I think it I think you could only match that to the American fighting spirit because the they're just they they absolutely love the fact that they are not Russian anymore I know I know yes so yeah and and I think when so I'm a Libertarian and the problem with being a Libertarian is is that we are we generally believe that we should not the America should not be a police state that's what we're not supposed to be policing the the entire like the entire Globe that's not our business we should be staying on a people's business in other words isolationist the problem with that is and I'm not even going to touch on the economics of it the problem of that is that it is in my personal opinion morly an ethically bankrupt to allow the things that are happening such as what's happening to Ukraine to continue to happen and not do anything it's just morally bankrupt to do that and ethically I mean it's such a a direct linkage to the antithetical nature of Ethics that you have to do something and that's just my do you know what this is new fa libertar in a long long time seriously and that's the truth honest truth yes I totally totally agree yes and um making it simple to understand absolutely yes F yes yes brilliant brilliant all of you absolutely yeah but you you guys you see you don't realize but I actually come from Donas you know the area oh yeah wow yeah this is where I come from was just there yesterday but I come I come from a family right my father um is a retired public prosecutor so can you imagine what he had to go through I said oh you have no idea it was it was horrendous it was awful the war actually started not it like couple of years ago it started back and so I hold on 2012 2013 2014 sometime then that's when the war started and it was you remember that Maan and K and stuff oh my God it was horrendous it was awful and at the time I mean yes um no no no Rich sh um so north of Ukraine sorry yeah it's okay I'm I'm going to tell you this well it's just because I'm trying to put my point the cross but basically when it started it was so so bad so basically the whole Ukraine has divided complet completely divided you know there were um there were so many America oh meel M Megan Marco whatever yeah so everyone there was so many American people from um your guys from your White House you know in Ukraine it was horrendous it was awful the whole Ukraine has divided completely you know and we're like okay so where is it going to end so our president flew he run away he flew and went to Russia and who opened his Open Arms sorry uh Putin yeah come on take all the you know this guy corrupted guy who has stolen millions and billions from the whole country the whole country was corrupted businesses were taken away from people people were opening businesses and they were taken away from them because of the corrupted pieces of [ __ ] just like them you know yeah this was embedded in America ameran politics for a while like this gets brought up a lot the the fact that uh American politics were trying to push out a lot of uh uh Russian uh loyal uh people out of the governments and stuff like that like that's kind of how it all started in a way as far as right before the actual actions no it's liter literally my friends what's going on fellas everybody uh hello is everybody having a good Monday hey amazing well there's there's there's some other interesting things too is like Ms I don't have movs though so Ukraine if I remember correctly was um what's the word for it settled by Slavic people and if anybody knows anything about the slavics they were they were like one of the most um tortured people in Europe because the word slave comes from the Slavic language so you just you have this intensely rich like uh history in Ukraine of of you know just just tough people that are just not going to deal with [ __ ] other interesting things too about Ukraine for what for example Ukraine is the largest country in Europe yeah huge that like that's interesting as [ __ ] to me so Putin wants the largest country in Europe interesting yeah and you know if you ever visit Ukraine and all all of you guys seriously you're going to find it so amazing because people are so so hospitable it's like you will just walk into the house and literally anyone everyone they'll feed you you'll be well you know looked after and everything because this is what we're like you know because we're we are just nice people you know um people compare you know Russians and ukrainians and we do have mixed but it's not like that no you go to Moscow and then you go to Kev and you will see a huge massive difference in the way we respond to you number one for saving money don't blow it on hookers oh wait moose I think I don't know if you know that you're still on this channel here I'll mute him yeah just mute him okay but yeah it's so interesting it's so nice oh do you know what you were just like literally Steve and other guys uh like a breath of fresh air Jeff you know Jeff yes Jeff Jeff like a breath of fresh air it's nice it's nice to you know to talk to people actually know what they're talking about and they're talking sense say yes I'm happy thank you so much oh I feel that way about you yeah Ian there's so many interesting things about this and I hope it's not like in a weird way talking about it because it's still going on but but like in the pages of History like Ukraine is writing the first page in like 21st century Warfare like what is going on there will be studied for decades and decades BR yeah absolutely I 100% agree with that because what they're doing they're they're using drones the first time in history a naval fleet has had to pull away from a not other naval fleet right like there an entire Navy had to pull back because of jet skis rigged with bombs like it's crazy it's it's it's changing the entire world's game and they're demolishing these tanks with these drones too and they're just producing just this insane amount of drones yeah just for the war effort I mean how can that not resonate with Americans I I don't know I don't you know I I don't know where Americans sit I know some people are for it some people are against it some people are for Putin invading it and it just you know that is so unamerican to me cuz I it's a Sovereign Nation is not our friend like either way than you know here we all remember the the old Republican party whose like entire identity was based around being against Russia right and at some point that just flipped and I can't tell you theact flipped well the Red Scare was a real thing you know and and I can see you know the problem is is that it brought Americans have this m oh my God I'm sorry I'm getting tongue because I'm so passionate about this like about Russia and Soviet Union and stuff like that and um so the the the problem is is that I think the more knowledge we have access to the Dumber we get because we just choose to selectively confirm our own biases about our own beliefs because that's what the algorithm is designed to do so we are artificially creating Echo chambers that we live in and so the only thing that you're seeing is is all these reasons why this is happening and this is happening and you it it is so like I don't know how many of you do this but I do this a lot because I read studies for fun and just I'm a weird person like that and I read a lot but try refuting something that a politician said and it's it it gets more and more complicated because you can't trust new sources so you've got to find the actual sources that they're pulling it from yeah you could interpret that data and the problem is is that I think it was uh Mark Twain said uh this about statistics he says there's lies damned lies and statistics and this is one of the reasons why people like Peter beian in his book how to have impossible conversations is he said leave facts out of your conversation because facts can be taken any number of different ways and it's not productive to a conversation right it is facts are very productive to convers I don't know how you have the conversation you need to have in a liberal Democratic Society without facts being important well I'm not I'm not talking about like facts facts like um I'm talking about statistics sta oh like those kind of like the nerdy typ things that can be misinterpreted or interpreted in different ways like that's the problem with today is like that's what happened last night have facts we have alternate facts statistics aren't facts are they last night that was that was a conversation does that happened last night in our Dei conversation where they kept showing me like these these large data Trends and I needed to see the individual concrete instances of what they were talk you can't see that from this abstract data level it doesn't communicate what I need communicated to understand what the issue is yes I need the facts I need the hard on the ground concrete examples is not need to see the problem facts over truth over lies facts over opinions yeah you get lies all the time watch TV seriously watch the news it's all lies all of it majority I would say you know it's like yes so unless no it's like you know I if I want to know the truth you know I speak to my family on a daily basis you know I Al have friends Ukrainian friends who live in Spain all over the world we talk so we know because we have families there and we know exactly what's going on exactly because I I know when I speak to my dad you know my mom had a stroke you know major strike say we're going through a lot of crap at the moment but the fact is like you know when I call my parents you know and all I hear is this siren you this this war siren so basically the city is going to get whether it's Air Force you know or drones or whatever we don't know you know but this is what I have to go through on a daily basis and yeah so it it is horrendous guys so I never ever ever in my life would wish anything like this to happen to any of you or no one in the whole world you know but it happened you know so how we're going to deal with this I have no idea and how long it's going to take for this war to end when yeah well you know something else interesting and I had to read I had to look it back up again because I had forgotten it but I knew there was a connection between it does anybody know what cic means like the cacs no I've heard of it I thought it was a d free men those are the people that dance funny and wear the hats no no it cic is translates into free men it's also um a story by uh what's his face tolto so they didn't work for the uh powers that that be then yeah yeah I mean my favorite Russian literature by far is doeski but there's tons of good ones out there tolto is kind of like the Russian equivalent of Jr toling he's very dry and very specific and detail oriented yeah I'm not saying he's not one of the best I'm just saying if it was if it came down to choosing a Russian author that I would read for for the rest of my life it would probably be it would probably be DKI he's probably he could too yeah but there's uh oh I almost forgot there's there's one famous author that I know that came out of of of Ukraine and that was Nicolai gogul hugely influential in literature like the world round like he was he wrote short stories he was one of the first the like the over Pioneer the the Russian short story well it it was it was more about how we he he retaught human beings how to teach stories or how how to tell stories that's why gole was so famous was he like legitimately changed the way that we tell stories to each other like he was insanely influential and people don't even know him and turf too they were some of the early Pioneers modern dance but who it's it's it's tolto doeski checkov is there it seems like there's a fourth one I'm missing but there's like three or four big ones do you know what guys I seriously I I have fallen in love with you tonight talking music to my ears absolutely Jeff what it is Jeff is we we were on a bit of a shitty panel earlier a shitty British panel where we where we just got abused trolled and interrogated they pay for that yeah yeah this is the this is amazing Jeff Jeff is Cate curated a a kind of an environment where and I'm I'm glad to see him like removing the drama from everything but when the drama's not there it's actually a really great platform to to talk I mean the reason why I'm on this one more than almost any other podcast that I'm inv that motivates me to um curb the drama even more absolutely Jeff Jeff I'm a fan I'm I am going to subscribe definitely yay yeah absolutely yeah you've turned around yes you have because yeah well Ricardo hangs out here so we we seriously I was I I was Lo because I did go on you know with people on YouTube and stuff you know I do do oh um quite a few I'm not going to mention yeah had a good time and stuff and all of a sudden it's like I have never ever thought that I would experience anything like this in my life when people seriously just awful just awful oh yeah it's they yeah it's well a lot of them like half of them have like criminal records and you're seeing the you're not seeing the the the representatives of you're not seeing our best they call it prison politics drug is it's like the state of nature it's their feral part feral yeah yeah absolutely so yeah tonight seriously Jeff thank you so much thank you for having me on your panel oh T we'll come back we're here every day and we're going to be here all day oh well you're gonna have enough of me at some point not going yet are we no not at all no this isn't goodbye no definely no for me personally it's been educational so I love that I love learning new things about the world world and history and you know just philosophy politic what whatever and just that's what you get when you actually listen to people and you you but for me you see I have been working guys I used to work for JP Morgan um I retired for JP so I used to work for JP Morgan I used to have so so many well I still do so many American friends I TR traveled to us many times of course I have yes and basic I I I fell in love with the country and the only thing I thought you um iing is history you know America is great you know but it just doesn't have that history does it just a little bit well the history we do have as as brief as it is relatively is pretty remarkable though it's short and Rich short and thick yeah hell of a lot of [ __ ] going down still do I mean when you figure the the oldest brick building or stone building that we have here is like 300 400 years old I mean it's like we're a very young country talking about my house ridiculously young country talking about what I'm talking about my house Labor Day yeah I think because of the separation between England and the Americas I think it brought forth an opportunity for an extremely rich history that I mean we don't have the history that Europeans do but the the history that we do have is incredibly rich and and I think the interesting thing about it is is the they were early Americans uh that settled here and you know created the country that we live in were incredibly principled people and they you know a lot of our forefather okay so here's the thing this this bugs the [ __ ] out me sorry I'm going to rant for a second so something that bugs the absolute [ __ ] out of me is is and I'm not [ __ ] on conservatives I'm I'm [ __ ] on the on the argument that they're making is they say that this is a conservative country or this is a Christian country or what n what number of arguments they make but the thing that I don't think they realize even when they're touting the Constitution and the creation of our great nation is the fact that the creation of the United States of America was one of the most liberal acts the world has ever ever [ __ ] seen ever because a constitutional republic had never existed before that moment and so when they're talking about you know this is a Christian Nation or it's a conservative no it's not it was never ever from that even from its Inception like the the F the the founding fathers read books like Utopia by Thomas Moore um you know all of these different people all of these different uh philosophical ideas these these men were they were intellectuals and when you're in when an intellectual you tend to be more liberal that's just the way that it is right but the creation of the country to give every human being in the country the right to vote and and that wasn't the way that it initially was you had to own property but eventually we got to the point where we we considered all men were created equal that was not the case anywhere in the world and it has not been the case everywhere in the world so like the creation and I'm I'm missing a whole bunch of [ __ ] here because I'm not even covering slavery but the the concept that the the Constitution was created under was an incredibly liberal act and they never ever understood that absolutely drives me [ __ ] up the wall exactly I've never heard conservative Nation but I've heard Christian Nation and yeah push back he gets that too but I think what you're saying is this remarkable liberal like unique thing that was created the conservativism comes in when now we want to conserve this we want to make sure that it stays intact and say so the conservative to me came after the founding of the nation it was a tip to conserve what was found conserve the classical liberal principles of the founding so I I I rarely hear that it was founded as a conservative Nation because the founding of it was pretty L like it's hard to argue that that the the creation of America was a conservative act but it's more the Christian Nation I have heard like well it it that's that's the connection between the two is because a healthy majority of the the heavily right leaning uh conservatives are are claiming that this country was was basically fundamentally created by God was well yeah well that's nuts it wasn't it was created by humans like multiple diverse set of humans from all backgrounds ethnicities seties three times something like something like that three times in our in our in our founding documents and that's it and it's never in reference to like a specific God like the way that they intended it to be interpreted was was a creator that was it like it wasn't a specific one it could have been yeah it could have been what give me a East Indian name yeah like it could have been Krishna it could have been any number of pagan gods it could have been Zeus like that was not their point their whole point was to remove organized religion out of government most are freeing religious persecution right so why are we saying that this is a Christian Nation no it's not a Christian Nation it's a nation of people who can be Christian but it was never intended to be a Christian Nation and it's considered a liberal democracy and that's another gripe I have is that the the word liberal has been co-opted by the right to mean something derogatory or perjorative it it's like what does anybody understand what the root of the word liberal is yes yes yes we're old Freedom Latin word liberty liberty like if you're a liberal you believe in the liberty of the people to live free from the ter of government speak freely to speak freely life liberty in the pursuit of happiness that's an incredibly country liberal the Latin word live no I'm serious in Freemasons the the prerequisite to be a Freemason is you have to believe in a higher being but not necessarily a Christian God right so all you know all I'm saying is it's not necessarily a Christian Nation but the you know many of the founders did believe in God and some were also uh deists right yeah so yeah well even Jefferson in in the Jefferson letters was like that's where we get the separation of church and state it's actually not in are founding documents anywhere the this separation between church and state except in the First Amendment which it kind of slightly touches on but the the the concept of the the the bifurcation of church and state actually came from Jefferson during one of his letters to a friend of his and you can actually read them and they're called The Jefferson letters okay a lot of the founding fathers were absolutely abhorent to the idea that religion would take would would take a role in politics they they absolutely despised the idea of it Steve didn't know what I I don't think you know people actually care you they actually care about religion anymore but there was someone actually um who mentioned um and that is a really good point so um slavery so what what is the first thing that comes to your mind when it comes to slavery it comes basically black people then it comes racism and blah blah blah know what never in my life I care actually you know who who has black skin or yellow or whatever it doesn't matter it doesn't matter but for some reason um actually in UK the they say that white heterosexual people um are the most um discriminated men on Earth so how how is that how is that how is that working out seriously yeah I don't know but it's like when people mention to me you know racist racist word I think well I'm not so why why do you say that word you know it's like obviously maybe you are you know well they they think you are the fact that you think you're not doesn't mean that you're not and they they believe that they know better than you how racist you are or not Jeff why because I'm white I I'm trying to figure out myself I don't know why they believe this but they believe that they have these ways that are scientific enough in their mind to convince them that they can that there ex that there exists in you this racism that you're not aware that you have but that you do have and it's somehow connected to White because there's this thing called White Privilege and it came up last night but I'm still not sure of the connection but I do remember that white privilege was Downstream from these these unconscious biases that we have so it's it's more about this unconscious racism that you're not aware of but that they is there and to me if you're going to call me a racist you better be able to back it up cuz those are F that is definitely not a word to call someone that you want to form a cohesive Society with right Jeff I'll never forget it's like you know look you know we all have our types you know we date people blah blah blah get married and have children everything but the fact is it's nothing to do with that about you know like their color or anything as but this guy he was literally chasing me and chasing me chasing me it was on the inside isn't it yes and basically and and and I was like I'm not interested I'm not interested and do you know what he said to me he said is it because I'm black I'm like no because I don't fany you that's the whole reason you know but they have taken it you know well he has taken it you know people take it the wrong way completely you know so what what do I do seriously can I win no no that's what I don't fight like I leave those people alone I don't even engage stick with me if he says why it's because I'm black I would just walk away I would even get involved but I would probably tell him yeah yeah you're I'm not black guys yeah if you can find was true I'd probably tell that if you can find it I would highly recommend reading it I actually do believe this and many people actually I'm sure they think it they're not going to say it because we're not allowed we're not allowed to say things like that you know in order to offend them something you know but seriously yeah is if you want a good laugh if you want a good laugh read the very first article um that I I was ever published it's called um what is it called it's called stop cultural stop culturally appropriating my white racist culture please and it's one of funniest [ __ ] articles I think you'll ever read um it's basically it's it's it's basically written from the perspective of a true racist like a KKK member or an AR Nation me member and they're looking outside and they're seeing everything that's going on and they're like what the [ __ ] like the very first line that I write is I am a white supremacist because I'm poking fun at the whole ideology right I'm not actually a white supremacist I think I think everybody knows that but um that one was published in I think 2021 2022 with wrong speak and then I had my my uh article that I would also suggest reading which is called race lining and that one was published with the the the the Journal of free black thought it's a black academic journal and so one of the things that I explain in there is like most people don't understand what racism is because the definition changed in the 1500s so pre 1500s the of race was basically um location kinship religion language and um um skin tone but none of those denoted a value system it wasn't until the 1500s with Gomez Des zerar a Portuguese uh dude that um was tasked with basically coming up with a way to excuse the Atlantic slave trade and they changed it and then with that um two indiv uals named um Johan oh my God now I'm forgetting their names um it was um holy [ __ ] I just forgot their names anyway it's in the article I believe but anyway so these two based uh based a value system on on Race using phenology like the study of skulls and so one has to ask a very important question which is if if you're if you're actively fighting against white supremacy and this ideal of racism that you you are touting is such an issue why are you continuing to use the same the same philosophies that were created by the very people that you say that you want to fight against which were white supremacists so you're using a white supremacist argument to try and get rid of white supremacy it doesn't make any sense and so I just kind of tear down that whole kind of concept of a part and just blow it out of the water but um like the the concept of racism is just absolutely [ __ ] stupid it is it is it is it is do you know what it is so so stupid and I can't believe there is 21st century and we're still talking about it you know why you know what's the reason yeah oh my God someone called you Nigo blah blah blah you know [ __ ] sake you know just grow up I think it's more about culture than than anything else you know no um have different backgrounds no no no I think um their skin color is not their choice they have yeah do you know think that people literally it's like you know when they get stop the police you know if they're black and stuff you know oh you stop me because I'm black and no no because you haven't done anything wrong you know you have just broken the window you know or assaulted you know a girl or you know raped some no no it's not like that well I don't know I don't know I'm sorry I'm sorry I don't try to push my opinion but I'm so sick and tired of it I've actually heard the police um are here in the UK are um institutionally racist and sexist and homophobic and all sorts of other things but I can't prove it but I've heard it on good authority I've seen it few times the shitty thing is is that racism does happen it continues to happen like that's the shitty thing about it but when you really get down to the nuts and bolts of it why is it happening nobody asking that question ignorance ignorance of the well I suppose you know so quick you know just stick a label on your for forehead you know and just label you as anything you know I mean come on what do we come to seriously you know something I really want Jeff do you mind if I talk about it I really have to read this what's what's all this about you know all this arguments about trans gender and stuff and you know what you have to call yourself and blah blah blah who is woman who is the woman yeah pronouns and stuff what is going on seriously do you believe there's three Sexes or just two I think there's there might be three I think there's space for three you know like male female and something in between is that not fair I'm GNA I'm going to tap out on that one because that was my entirety of last night that's all we talked about steeve is gonna tell us no Steve is gonna tell us St please tell me please I I don't think you're gonna like my response to that I think there's a difference between I think there's a difference between what we see socially and what we see personally because I actually have a video on my YouTube channel of three of my trans friends and we're having a discussion because what I did was I went into conservative Discord servers and I said if if you could ask a trans person anything what would you ask them and so I had a list of questions that I was going to ask my friends yeah and the over the overwhelming um basic kind of idea that I I got from the responses of that of that video was I had no idea that there was such diversity within the trans Community which which makes us question whether we actually know what we're talking about when we're talking about trans issues right I don't give a [ __ ] what you do as an adult I really don't care it's no SK my teeth I'm a Libertarian I don't care as long as you're not violating the rights of someone else I don't really give a [ __ ] what you do you want to hump a tree that's fine just don't make me PID to have the slivers removed yeah you know so it really doesn't bother me but what I do know that's what insurance is for right it's a fundamental a fundamental American right to be who you are like that's literally the selling point of the United States is come here do anything you want be anything that you want to be but then we chastise people for doing it and I'm not talking about the the the social activists like I'm talking about the everyday day-to-day trans people who are cool as [ __ ] that don't bring up these issues that don't force you to use their pronouns that understand the complexity of human social behavior and they're they're perfectly understanding and patient with people like I know a whole [ __ ] ton of those people I know very few trans activists I know yes I do my best friend is actually my best friend Ukrainian Alexi bless him he's gorgeous he's stunning he's Ukrainian he's gay knew no it doesn't matter because you know he is my family he is absolutely my family it doesn't matter to me you know who he sleeps with what he does and stuff you know come on guys you know you'd love them anyway of course I would but the fact is no but I'm just interested well about this transgender thing you know it's just I don't understand please explain to me because they coming out and saying oh I'm a woman yes okay great you know maybe I'm maybe I'm Jeff maybe I'm lucky but I I'm actually 100% well 99% happy with being a man you know it's always it sounds like it so so just to simplify a little bit the beginning of that conversation always and you can't if you can't get past this part we can't have that conversation the beginning of that conversation always has to come to some kind of a agreement on whether or not there is a difference between gender and sex and that's really what I think the entire Schism comes down the average ordinary American is not going to appreciate those subtle dis it's going to have to be be simpler you have to be able to shoot it out of the McDonald's drive-thru but Jeff do you know what it's nice it's actually nice to talk about this things you know you know it's open I just think of the ordinary American at the same time and how how it's I think of people like my family and my mom and how it's going to be presented to them because they're not going to understand any of this even saying first we have to agree that there's a distinction between sex and you're going to lose them right there they're not even going to know what you're talking about no I tell you what I've been thinking but but that encapsulates the entire conversation going forward then it's GNA have to either be simplified or people like every American's going to have to have some kind of advanced degree to be able to even conceptualize the issue and I'm still wondering why it's so damn important that that we have to even do this like most of us for 98% of the population it's pretty well defined and for those that it's not we seem to be able to accommodate the edge cases I don't even know why G like why we even have this gender Obsession and why we need to do this level of gender awareness exactly what what well yeah exactly it's like are the differen are the differences between men and women really that great or yes they are yes they are well the sexual ones because you know what I'm a woman and I'm going to kick your us it comes down to those people existing right like and and we could say we could have said the same thing about gay rights and gay existence but those people existed and they came together as a group and they fought for recognition and for legal rights and things like that and this they were part of our group we were all fighting for marriage there there were no other rights and then after we got marriage all of a sudden there were there were these purported rights that they all of a sudden feel like they didn't have then they were getting married in the church they're their own group they have their own interests right right but that that is very recent like for for most of absolutely like they were just part of the gay community along with the gay marriage fight like everybody else it's it's a big change in in like historical sense right but but I'm still like even after like so after we got marriage and they became the dominant um group of activists or Advocates I'm still not clear on what the rights are like for for gay people it was very clear what the right was we were being excluded from the institution of marriage but then the new wave of of trans or queer whatever comes along supposedly they're also being denied certain rights but I I still don't understand what those rights are because it seems like they can do the same thing that all of us can they can marry now well it seem well it seems to me right now what's happening is is there're being denied access to certain uh medical procedures a small portion like a very small number so it's not an ISS like gay rights affected Americans all over I mean legislation is happening in states to Target that small group of people which is why it's such a big issue because I think everyone takes notes when you they take note when you target legislation at at extreme minorities I think everyone raises an eyebrow to that I can understand pushing back on that specific legislation but I don't understand why all the rest of us need to become aware of sex and gender and decide if there's a distinction just for just for these few medical cases that are being addressed through the medical system that's my point though right I don't care if if someone should be able to go to the doctor I think they should have access to it though I only care once you try to stop their access to it other other than that it's not my business what they go to the doctor for but if they go to a doctor and get a legal procedure what what business is it is mine I'm not the one trying to get in their business I think the people trying to stop that from existing are the one that are getting in their business yes and but do you know what what really really hurts me okay so I'm talking about my friend my best friend so he's Ukrainian and um he's not allowed to tell anyone that he's actually gay because obviously you know because of the war and stuff you know if he ever ever went back you know he'll be um going to war and stuff like that it's actually illegal to be uh home no it's not no it's not illegal but you will be it's like in Russia is in Russia Ukraine is not the same not not the same but you know they're proper bastards you know that will yeah yeah absolutely and basically you know it's like what I'm trying to say it's like you know the poor guy you know it's like seriously he doesn't know what to do with himself you know he he wants to go home he can't even see his mom uh purely because he will be sent to um to war you know that's why he'll become a soldier and stuff another thing about Rec and also and also I have no issues with gay people at all not at all they're my friends they're my friends and stuff and but in Russia you go to Moscow guys seriously um there is a documentary and you maybe have seen it or I don't know watched it but basically there groups of people who are actually targeting you know gay people they they literally killing them gay bashes yes yes yeah homosexuality is really frowned upon in in Russia it's not it is awful is it mostly male homosexuality yeah like like the a feminine thing or we masculinity everyone loves a good lesbian don't yeah I mean tattoo was a huge Russian band I mean about you know girls in school and stuff oh yeah yes yes good point hey what's up Zach good to see you you too man yeah I had a Korean friend I could never remember his first name so I just used to call him Charlie could remember or could pronounce I couldn't well it was both I just like gave up after a while there's like 17 syllables and there's a whole culture here in the US that was started by a gay men coming back from World War II like what the motor the leather culture the motorcycle yeah yeah yeah that's a really rich history too if you get into it yeah that's that's part of my head that's part of my roots what sorry what's it rich you said it's rich in history what's it rich in I mean well they came back from World War II and they really loved the camaraderie of their fellow male compatriots and so they started the very first biker clubs here in the US because the US was giving motorcycles away to to uh veterans of World War II and they started the very first motor clubs can even so some of the very first motorcycle clubs yeah they were they were gay clubs okay gay motorcycle clubs but you can even see evidence of some of those traditions still alive so one of the things that you do like some clubs do this um I'm not going to name them but I know which ones they are but one of the rituals that you have when you buy a new when one of the members buys a new bike because y'all get pissed drunk and [ __ ] pee all over the bike like that that that's the the the Hell's Angels are like something gay people it is you know but um if I'd have to explain more to to make sure that everybody gets the point but I'm not going to but so another thing that the the Hell's Angels are well known for is open-mouth kissing each other in front of other people to shock them you know it's like if you look hard enough like this shit's ingrained into the motorcycle culture well it's like when they blow blow on the tailpipe you know they put their lips around the seen that exactly but the the culture is really rich because you know for for for one for one reason is that homosexuality was a sin and it was a a um punishable sin um or a punishable crime in the US for a long time and so a lot of these a lot of these gay men had to be very very underground like they were married they had kids but they would go off to these parties and then come home so privacy was a really really big deal for them they couldn't allow themselves be outed and that that brought about an entire culture of um gay maale LIF styles that still exists to this very day like gay men don't talk about what they do behind closed doors especially at like leather bars and stuff like that it just that you don't you don't see it there's very few books that are actually written directed towards gay male culture it it was also homosexuality centered on masculinity they were looking for masculine role models and they identified with masculine figures it wasn't centered on pop divas and drag queens and like what gay is associated with now yeah drag really didn't enter into it until about I think it was like the 70s late 60s or well you had like Andy Warhol in the factory Crow maybe where it started before that you probably had burlesque and Cabaret how does the gay community feel about uh David Bowie I don't know you'll have to ask him uh I I like Bowie as a um they love Bo as a musician I like him as an innovator I guess like he wasn't the greatest musician he I I don't like all the glammy stuff but he definitely probably did more to create the modern form of pop music that I grew up with in pop culture than than many other artists so he's like a significant cultural figure and he's an excellent actor oh my God his acting skills I think exceed any of his other talents there you go did you hear that uh his one of his last albums it was like a like a really weird like out there kind of music yeah I guess that's what it is did you like that one or not it was okay it gave me the willies dude like the hair on the back of my neck would stick up and the hair on my arms like when I listen to it I worked at the Hard Rock and so like uh when when you walk into the high limit room David Bowie's face was right there bam like huge and uh so we played a lot of Bowie and yeah when when some of those songs from that last album went on dude it was just like what year what year was this I'll try to find the album uh I'll find it right now I'll put it in the private let the children lose it let it I hate Ziggy I think Ziggy store is the dumbest that's some of his worst crap I can't believe that's his big claim to fame that's the hit they what a cartoonish actually gonna have a say as a girl all right so I yeah yeah yeah yeah please please please let me you gotta fight for the mic like a guy but the the fact is it's like um so I'm not talking about transgender or you know anyone else I'm talking about guys gay guys you know they're yeah they're brilliant and you know what they're brilliant friends to girls seriously we get on say so well I can't talk about transgender because I do find them funny because it doesn't matter how much makeup they put on or woman's clothes they didn't look right but gig guys are honest they say do you know what I'm gay you know yes I have a you know I have a husband I have a boyfriend and stuff you know cool stuff and we do share great stuff uh when we go shopping together and stuff and say being being gay being gay in in Britain is in the UK it's more it's quite a bit more socially acceptable than it was 10 20 years ago I think it like most places it is yeah but there's still a lot of people that are stuck in the Dark Ages I don't what's a lot to you because even the polling shows like a huge increase in support especially among the younger Generations yeah has anybody here seen John live divers whatever you call it you know what don't you think that there's been at least a little bit of regression in the last few years because of the kid issue yes I think if they stop [ __ ] with the kids they they had allowed like a gay Republican groups into like CPAC and stuff like that for a few years and then they just got kicked out again so things things aren't like moving forward as they kind of were on the conserv Trump's like one of the the most gay friendly Republican leaders probably in my lifetime like I think it'll keep moving forward I don't feel alienated from the right at all they just got to make sure they don't they you know the left has to make sure they don't keep pushing the line too far as long as they leave the children alone uh everything else is pretty much going to go you know most most Republicans I know they're not interested in uh holding you back from anything they're interested in individual rights and freedoms yeah that's what I find which used to be on the like that's used to that used to be why I was on the left because they were the ones for individual rights and freedoms and suddenly it's the right defending it Steve you have G please talk to us please i t to stay out of these conversations because I'm pretty left meing and I'm I'm a huge supporter of LBGTQ rights and I'm bisexual myself so oh um most of the time I stay out of those particular conversations but you know the the the the cool thing is is that homosexual is is is way more accepted today than it was even 15 years ago which makes me extremely extremely happy yeah um and I think everybody is concerned about the kid issue um and and rightfully so I think there there needs to be a lot more social investigation into that but I also think there needs to be a lot more um I think more effective and intelligent discourse on the sit on the conversation rather than just is that with what you say is correct but what I want to say is that you know children lose it let the children let the children you know so that's that's kind of where I stand on it I'm just um yeah I don't I I I the thing that has me most concerned is what I read from the queer theorist the the the ideology coming out of the discipline of queer Theory particular around childhood innocence and that that type when you couple that with the drag queen kids stuff it starts to paint a disturbing possibility yeah but when you actually take a look at like day-to-day life like remember when I uh I was walking through town I was taking my daughter to the museum and it was just happened to be a gay pride parade even I I admitted I said hey I didn't really want to be there it was kind of a weird thing um but there was nothing distasteful there was nothing freakishly uh you know like something that I wouldn't want my daughter to see except there was one thing that stood out to me that really bothered me and it was a young uh child uh dressed up as a dog on a leash and how old was the child serious 37 it looked like it was between like you know like four and 10 oh my God that is a little was it are you sure was it like one of those parent leashes that they parents could have some of their kids on a leash these days well it was the whole like outfit like thing it was just to me I don't know I just to me it wasn't right I wouldn't do it and I'm not into the whole like CU that the puppy thing is like a a sexual it's like a kink a f i don't know why a four-year-old needs to be into puppy gear they had a an Italian Festival and there was a uh what do you call it a porter partty and I bought a smoke bomb a green smoke bomb and I dropped it in the pipe of the Porta poot not knowing who was in it and uh like about two and a half minutes later this little kid opens the door and this [ __ ] Green Smoke comes swirling out of the porta potty and the mother goes what happened you're evil and you're going to hell with yes well you're the Satanist don't tell me about yeah I'm just let letting you know who's gonna be that was not the most evil of my that was that was the least of my evil Deeds wow did you feel like [ __ ] because it was a kid no i' laugh like hell because I was a kid not even the first Circle I was 12 and this kid was like six or something and the mother sees all this green smoke coming out of the [ __ ] thinking that he [ __ ] had a ball movement that created smoke that must have been fun that's [ __ ] riot okay can uh T wants to say you know what yeah definitely do you know what it's so so unfair you know all this judgment all this all this days seriously you know what when so 90 going back to 1997 when I left my country so I I came to England learning English and stay well not just stay here but yeah so we're trying to make my future and stuff and you know what this is where Generations completely differ you know to now when it was I don't know 50 60s and 70s say you know what my father said to me he said you know what if you ever you go to England and if if you ever come back um or you know with a black child or if you ever yes if you ever go with um a black guy he said um you I would be disowned basically damn yeah husbands sorry you came back with three black husbands correct no of course I didn't of course I didn't no but the prce but do you see the difference in Generations so basically H here's a bit different now he is definitely different because he was he was on a plane with my mom on the holiday or yeah on a plane I'm going to take it and apparently my mom said before she had stri before she she could speak but she she was like oh yeah your dad was literally you know chessing up this black girl next to him and blah blah blah but it's okay for him isn't it but I was not allowed I was literally I would be disowned by my family if I everever W with blood guy can you believe that yeah cuz they have people in the South like that they were rare but they were out there yeah and even then it was archaic but also Germans as well my God I could never speak I had ger German friends and stuff like that you know but because of the you know Second World War I was not allow to even speak about them can you believe that mention Germans oh yeah German peopers so yeah talking about Russia Ukraine yeah all do you know what international weed day is it's April 20th 420 corre that's right yeah do you know do you know whose birthday that is yours Hitler oh a lot of he smoker though not see that a crap to people's birthday did he smoke cannabis though I know he was a painter and a poet or something he did meth the dream or whatever the [ __ ] they gave him I don't know they gave him all kinds of hypo uh hyper you know drugs like uh metham andaine sure he was a tweaker Hitler was a tweaker he didn't do we you saw him when he was giving his speeches it you know his hair was flapping around like he was like you know yeah he was [ __ ] jacked up he he feeling it you know up on the it's like watching the musican play a guitar solo that they're really into you know I mean he was into it not a good role model though I think generally wait hold second oh yeah oh space house so bad you're just sitting there not even talking but literally left you out I'm so sorry Jeff hello huh do what what what we left you L come on oh no I'm fine and I'm uh I'm doing comments at the same time so when there's a lot of people on the panel I tend to take a back seat unless I have a really strong opinion said move to England where did you come from originally I'm sorry what you said you moved to England where did you come from originally Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine oh yes when did you make that move 1997 believe it yeah oh wow is it true that there is a high percentage of Nazi population where they they bit of a meth apparently I um I have heard people say that before you know and obviously you know Russian side um well Russians are trying to betray Ukraine as Nazis up nor way maybe maybe that was like a stupid group you know some I don't know obsessive group or something you know which made it I I have no idea no no you go to Ukraine there are no Nazis no not one they're not in America either absolutely no it's rubbish of course it's rubbish it's well the far right party just got some election in Germany they said for the first time since were War I so it's freaking everybody out oh do you know what um the only thing I'm going to say did you see what Putin did to Ukraine do you remember in 1942 well you wouldn't probably I I don't know whether you know the history and not all that stuff so you um Russia was attack attacked by Hitler at 4:00 in the morning okay by bombs and stuff and everything and Putin did exactly the same thing to Ukraine at 4:00 in the morning Ukraine my country was attacked by Russian people with all the you know Sparkles and everything and yeah they killed Lads of people oh [ __ ] seriously I'm sorry but don't worry about it forget about it don't worry about it yeah the Nazi thing is known Russian propaganda so what do you call Nazi you know Ukrainian Nazi when have it's also propaganda the I don't know what's Nazi and what isn't anymore all I know is that a lot of dead soldiers decaying in the battlefield from various reasons Jeff would you not classify groups like Patriot front as neo-nazis I wouldn't class them as a representative of anybody significant in America like I don't think there's a Nazi danger or a Nazi threat no and I don't think most Americans are Nazis and and and the left likes to use that word to paint a lot of people say any of that I'm just saying there there are groups no matter how small they exist right are basically NE I don't care about small Fringe groups at all I don't take the i i they're they don't rise to my Threat Level where I have to take him seriously sure so I'm not like freaking out or hyper ventilating about this potential Nazi threat that could put that could take over America any second I'm more worried about like a Dei threat because I see actual evidence of that just the fact that there exists a group called Patriot front that has a few people that cosplay as Nazis in it does not concern me as much as the scale of what I see this other stuff so you're not concerned about the Jews controlling the media no sorry I no not at all you don't have to watch it it was a joke come on because I partly because I'm in control of what media I consume or not they can't they can't control my consumption of it they can control get produced they can control yeah the limit of your scope I'll have to watch it there's plenty of other things I can watch that they did that they don't don't Creator control yeah but somewhere somehow there's a limmit to the scope of your reality you know like that you can perceive through media yeah yeah well you have you have to prove to me that if they do own it that they have some nefarious intent and I don't I don't see that yeah well someone somewhere has intent when they're producing news because they want they have an objective they have an an what do you call it a uh an agenda that they want to get across yeah sure is that is that a democratic agenda or is it a Jewish agenda it doesn't matter lot of questions that have to be asked now I did hear that journalism has changed like it's less investigative now and more yeah like narrative bait like we need to put forth a partic like a narrative well you know when that happened right no that happened during the Reagan Administration when um the FCC removed a fair reporting policy oh yeah I do remember that the it the fair where they had to to show equal right they had to they had to show both sides of the both sides of the story well the argument was is that um there's so many news agencies that you can get your news from you don't need to have two different opinions you just click on the other channel which kind of makes sense that kind of makes sense there's there's there's two there's two events in in recent American history that that if the if if America fails you can trace it back to these two things One Was the removal of the fair reporting uh policy of the FCC and the second one was FC vers or Citizens United versus the FEC which allowed uh corporations to act as individuals when donating money to campaigns those two things you can you could you you'll be able to trace it right back to that is that when the super packs the rise of the super packs yep yep yep because now a bunch of Muddy can flood in from Anonymous individuals that influence the narrative that gets put forth as journalism because they don't have to yep but but again even if that's true people are still in control of the sources like they can control what at what's at the input but people I mean people are still control can can pick and choose their inputs so they can put they can spend all this money to put forth a narrative but it still has to compete with all of these other narratives from all these other sources that we have access to nowadays that everything is decentralized so I will I will partially disagree with you on that and and I I will use my own home state of Utah as an example of this so previous two um gay marriage being legal across the country Utah actually took a poll of its of its constituents and an overwhel overwhelming majority of Utah citizens wanted to vote uh for gay rights and actually I think they did vote for for a gay marriage and then the church got involved the Mormon Church got involved and then legislation stopped on that and was basically halted until the Supreme Court decision came out so was that after CI voted for the legalization of gay marriage and our state legislature stopped so it's not representative government anymore no but I'm was that the result of super and CI United I mean how much money do you think the Mormon Church gives to politicians in Utah a lot I know but I'm trying to place the timeline cu cu my my I was trying to trace your argument actually is it that because of super packs Anonymous money can flood in and influence media like the The Narrative or story that's put out through media now because they don't have to do this balance thing it's unlimited money it's so so the Mormon thing would they would they have funneled it through super pack is it an example of what I'm trying to understand as the danger because the fact that that yeah that wealthy groups have influence on politics has always been a reality but the increased danger was because now they can be anonymous and they could influence a narrative but just because someone has the power to put out a narrative doesn't guarantee that that narrative wins in the the marketplace of ideas I don't know when it comes to money and controlling the media and creating [ __ ] a script for the media then yeah it does win because they well only if that's someone's only source for their reality is that that well that is one media channel but now I'm saying there's so many sources now that no single media Source has the market question for you Jeff if I wait wait real quick hang um Tatiana is that you in the back is that can you flash your camera or let me know that flash your tits or something cuz it could be a troll impersonating Tatiana now that they heard her on stream so I just want to make sure yeah we got a lot of impersonators here lately okay yeah and go ahead move sorry so I'm just wondering if I gave you $100,000 myfriend for your campaign right you're uh running for reelection next year and I give you $100,000 do you think that's going to sway your vote in any way if I say hey uh Jeff um you know that that restaurant on uh fifth uh I don't think you should approve it and then I just walk out who are you he's the donator of100 oh so you're like donating my campaign but you're well isn't that illegal they like like that yes that's how it works that's how it works these people if I was a politician I wouldn't do it I would say no I'm not supposed to be doing that kind of stuff you're not going get reelected because so here's the problem everybody in any kind of state legislature or even a federal federal level 80% of their time is spent trying to earn money for their next re-election because because Congress they are reelected every two years so they're spending a [ __ ] ton of on me yeah I don't know I mean I don't mind it but oh I'm just seeing if Tatiana is really Tatiana is that you d that's her me I can confir all right just check she's an independent wants to be on her own Channel all right now we have Tatiana herself I'm here okay welcome back oh and she's a fox too look at that here let's put her up next to Ricardo and maybe puffy we put the guys at the bottom there we go Zoom little puffy I want to see what she's drawing there dude is that that is that Jeff is that me that's Jeff no huh yeah oh my little logo thing oh wow look at her and she doing it upside down that's impressive yeah she does wow but anyways you know the the problem with with big money in politics is now it's influencing the politics rather than the people influencing the politician well yeah it's supposed to be representative government but it's not representative my think fraction of the distance no no we're not no and you were talking about hierarchy earlier well this is the example of hierarchy becoming [ __ ] you know institutionalized well as long as I have the ability to vote out my Representatives what's the problem because they're not really representative I vote they they get voted out here all the time every election that switches a little bit people run the government behind the scenes through money I don't you say that but you'd have to demonstrate it to convince me I'm not just going to believe that cuz people tell me things are happening behind the scenes say that about a lot of things there's snake people under the Earth running things have you ever heard of the Coke brothers the billionaire Brothers yeah they [ __ ] they donate they have money yes they can throw money they can influ I've admitted over and over and over people can influence and I think it stops it they they can't guarantee they can't control they can't program they can't that's so disempowering to me they can influence but you have agency of your own that can react to the influence but there's a certain level of money where a human being ceases to have agency anymore well I guess I just haven't encountered it because my life is I'm still able to do no one's thrown so much money at my life that I've had to stop doing something so I I don't I wouldn't mind it if they did at me [ __ ] I got no money I'm not throwing nothing at you so so if I can give it example Jeff and this this would be a fairly simple example so here in Utah because I'm going to use Utah as the as the basis of my opinion here so in Utah we have this area called Temple Square this is where the main Temple area is well a couple of years ago the church wanted to purchase that area of Salt Lake City the citizens unanimously said no and the sale went ahead through anyways right because you had certain politicians that were being paid by the church it was the state that own they would have to buy it from the state they they they would have had to have they would have had to have purchased it from from the the I believe it was the state but the the point that I'm I'm speaking to here is is that there's been numerous occasions where we can clearly see that the influence of money in politics is is trumping the right of the American people to make these decisions on their in their own communities and the the problem is is when you're influenced by the money that I'm giving you you are less influenced by the people now yeah you can vote them out perfectly valid argument but the problem is is the damage has already been done by the time you're voting them out but that that happens every election you vote people in some damage you get some things you want some damage is done and then there's a new cycle and new people go in you get some things you want and they do a little bit of damage because this is an experimental process we're always figuring things out and improving and updating it's a dynamic this is a dyn liberal democracy is a dynamic form of government point out that there's a very high correlation to uh the campaign that has the most money winning I I think it's like near 70% of the time yeah I've never I've never denied an influence yeah it's it's the fact that it's it predetermines the outcome like so so by that theory the person that can amass the most money can buy an election even if they're not actually doing anything illegal if they throw enough money at an election statist ically the voters will swing that way yep that's it so at most I see that is influence you're able to sway that's what they said that cambri analytica did at the last minute Faceook there's there's that value for a lot of people in in being able to not say who they are right you there's people who can give a ton of money now the source doesn't matter to me because does matter to a lot of people though but once they put the message out we have Agency on how we respond to the message like whether we believe it adopt it like nobody can control what beliefs I adopt about the world without me know having some kind of participation in that process so I don't feel like a victim of propaganda when I have the ability to filter through that and decide how much to participate in it or not if you have access to the information that's that's the key Point here so if you take for example and I'm going to be I'm going to do a piss poor job at this and I apologize but Dupont the company Dupont is was one of the largest contributors to government I would say entities such as Congress people and stu stuff like that so what happened when the EPA was instituted Dupont threw so much [ __ ] money at politicians that it influenced the way that the EPA functioned meaning they grandfathered in a lot of chemicals and there's actually a movie about this I think it's Mark Ruffalo is is in it and I can't remember the name of the movie at the moment I have the same as it yeah Dupont threw so much money at the politicians that the politicians were able to to manufacture and change the policies of the EPA to suit the requests of dupond and Dupont was dumping [ __ ] tons of toxic materials into rivers lakes burying it in leaking containers like there's entire populations of cities that are now decimated and gone in ghost towns because of the damage that that companies like Dupont or pg& created because of the influence that money had on the politics so it's it's I I think there's more influence than you're giving it credit to but I want to give your argument credit that yes it is just influence right so so even if the DuPont thing happened the voters could still vote vote out put in new people that are gonna do nobody knew about what Dupont did but when they found out they had the ability to make new decisions that's the entire essence of journalism right is to to have an informed electorate right yeah yeah yeah well you can't be informed if you're if your paper is specifically leaning One Direction you know so that's that's the problem is is is that there's this culture of directed knowledge at the people that are reading the information and you can't even get the information that you want to investigate whether something is true or not without having to spend eight hours on you know the computer trying to figure out what the actual truth is because there's nine there's nine different media Outlets that are reporting on this one specific thing and it's only in One Direction and the the the one article that gets written on another alternative perspective of it doesn't get any any Showtime it doesn't get any any screen time at all so the if you look at if you look at knowledge as um as a physical weight right so let's say that knowledge actually carries itself with a weight like it actually has mass the knowledge that is suppressed is going to have less Mass therefore it's going to have less influence on its environment so that's kind of the problem that we're running into here is that we're not getting the whole story and on top of that the stories that were not being told we don't even have an idea of how deep and how far they actually go so there's there's there there's a policy of not misinformation but disinformation yeah but I think intelligent people can sort through most of that I I don't think it it I don't think it has anything to do with intelligence and it has everything to do with the ability to access any issue going on today I could find as many sources as I need from all different positions I could find a progressive Source a left I could find five Progressive sources five left sources five centrus five right five for I can go there those sources are out there so to say that information is being suppressed it's only being suppressed cuz people are not making the effort to go find a balance of sources nobody suppressing I'm not aware of any information that I can't go out and find if I need to that's available to the public if there's information that's being kept to the public through for like legitimate government Reasons I'm not talking about that stuff because none of us ever know about that till it comes out but I'm talking about if there's if there's information that's out there available to the public it's not being suppressed because I can go access it it's somewhere that I can access if I make the effort to access it so I can get as much balance as I need about any issue have you ever read 1984 yeah we studied at school what a book The only difference between 1984 and what we're doing right here is that uh we report on ourselves it's not like they have televisions that are watching our every move but we report on ourselves through Facebook through social media through YouTube how many [ __ ] personal stories have I told on YouTube now that no one would ever know about because I didn't say them before but now there there a video clip somewhere that someone can pull up his evidence against me and say you did this or you said this look the biggest mistake that Orwell made in 1984 was thinking that we would only have one hour of hate yeah by the way uh Zan or notla however you want to call him he says uh I hear you guys struggling so much but I'm playing bass good for him cuz I love bass players I'm one myself so hell yeah I used to play the bass I was like 16 and then what happened um we we had to split up after a while because of musical differences yeah but I can still play bass oh that's good Z zi zi zichi that sounds a little bit Japanese it is that kind of if I remember he was a famous duel duelist in Japan wasn't he no he was a blind swordsman that was made up in 1967 for 30 movies yeah yeah that's right yeah he plays a he's a yak is a he's a gambler but uh he he's blind but he always ends up saving the towns folk from the evil you know other Yakuza a personal hero of yours then I mean you know I watched the movies and they are what they are I just that's the name I chose in like 2006 when I first signed up to YouTube or whatever you know I don't know why I chose it but it's there it's there to live with it you know yeah it's cool what's the 444 about well that I see the number everywhere and have for a long time and uh and like numerological thing yeah and and they say they say that it means either you're on the right path and angels are looking out for you or or it's the uh or it's the the the number of uh Lilith the queen of demons the mother of demons so I don't know could be negative or positive I think I'm one of those people that seems evil but is good you know yeah that's pretty cool I what was it your stream I was watching the other day and you you took a load of gummies yes that was me I think you might taken one see money no I nothing happened as a matter of fact I felt for 15 minutes and then I was okay nothing didn't even fall asleep I've actually got to bounce out Jeff I got to do some stuff with my son so Steve you have a great Labor Day thank you for the chat thank you for hanging out keep coming back so we'll see you guys later cheers F cheers nice to meet you yeah said he was bisexual didn't he he was amazing yeah but he's married too has a son so that was surprising he's taking zigi calm down shut up you no uh what happened to uh what's his name there the here let's get the one who should not be named oh he oh he wandered off he's he'll probably come back later I'm having fun baby we're all having fun what's this picture in the middle I feel bad when I separate the couple let me um well we trying to it's a picture in process unless y'all need some like meat like aart time I could put moose in the middle of you well I have a question for Effigy if he's he is there okay sure go for it all right there are 60 cups on a wall and one falls down and breaks how many are left wait what there's 60 cups on a wall one falls and breaks yes how many are left 59 no five six teacups oh six oh you cuz you even said it's 60 cup like you way yeah you hit it that's right you can't answer that question correctly there's no way anyway that's all I got so well what's next Mike you come back people talking to me in the chat and stuff oh you talk messages oh they were asking was something I meant to say earlier um on the point of America not having like uh a decently old history There Are Places uh here in Northern Louisiana uh or at least I'm in southern but in Northern Louisiana there is a place called Poverty Point yeah which you can go to that is on the UNESCO world heritage site that is dated to like I think it's like 1700 BC it's a it's an enormous like Earthworks Mound that moved as much material as the pyramid so there is some really old stuff the LSU Mounds are older than the pyramids I've spent a lot of time on those Mounds you got to like climb on them that makes me so nervous because there's these ancient structures that are older than the pyramids in Egypt and they just look like hills of dirt on this college campus I just imagine kids playing on them and crawling on them and everything you've played on them man I spent some of the best years of my life at LSU did you know they were ancient at the time of course we did did it B like they were they were the Indian Ms like there's nothing that b let's like going to like a bunch of drunk kids playing on the Great Pyramids I don't know it makes me nervous when I think makes it even cool I got curious just want to know what it is here I let's I'll show a picture Z wants wants me to give him some song to play or practice play Anything by Tom Petty I discovered two days ago that it's not only easy as [ __ ] but it's [ __ ] satisfying too it's like feel like you're really playing a song because you get the rhythm going you know here these these things right here these Hills yeah that he played all like had some of the best times life These are ancient structure there are some of the oldest structures I wonder what kind of play know to man they're older like thousands of years older it's not allowed there's no fence or anything right like people just climb on what kind of they're so historically valuable how are they not like protected and fenced off they fence everything else off that's you can't even touch a document it has you have to have it under glass and experts have to but you people could just go and climb on these things yeah I used to It's Just Another Part of land that's what they said another part of land y'all I won't roll them you can walk them and you can do whatever you the name of the individual but I used to play on his [ __ ] tomb all the time and someone broke one of the windows and you could look in and they had like drawers you see somebody's tomb tomb yeah like a famous person somebody who made who created the Federal Reserve if you know what I used to play on his [ __ ] not knowing who it was all right let me see this guy is I'm not bullshitting you I swear I I I oddly believe we believe you trust me we believe sounds like something that would happen here I didn't know who he was until years later I know I can't was it Andrew Jack I've also spent many nights going through New Orleans cemeteries at night oh yeah yeah y you have the best cemeteries I had a friend that used to work he did Cemetery tours that was his job oh yeah there's all kinds of uh haunted New Orleans tours it's like a big business yeah and I went on the Marie laot tour before what's his name uh who's the the guy um the voodoo guy baby doc or something or um deali deali oh from Haiti yeah yeah he Dr John the musician no he was white white guy I think you would never know it but he was white yeah he was a it was a character if you if anybody here likes uh old kind of like um 70s Soul music you know like James brownish or funky kind of [ __ ] listen to the monophonics they're a bunch of white dudes maybe there's a couple black guys in the band but like they sound like they're black from the 60s or 70s and they are so good the monophonics they're called oh my God they look like some private that's okay that's private can't shouldn't talk about it oh uh Hey Ricardo is does cheers mean you're leaving or coming I don't know no I'm still here I'm just keep um I'm having I got connection problems oh okay maybe it's my Samsung or my VPN I'm using or I don't know but the Wi-Fi the Wi-Fi connection is pretty good I'm pretty close to the rouer this time so that's cool I was just wondering what that um picture she's this La Puffy's drawing a picture or something take a yeah that's Jeff's Avatar when he's wait what is all that what is she adding to it oh the name oh oh okay oh I see X all right wow and then she'll she'll probably add color on it it's pretty nice it's uncanny how accurate the face is is it someone maybe someone you know or someone no it's it's je Avatar when he's not on camera it's this oh it's actually je JX Jeff compare those two of a difference there isn't I mean didn't actually recognize you from the from the picture sorry yeah maybe when it's got color in it it'll there'll be more was it wudo Wilson authentic who the one who invented peanut butter yeah no the guy who to played on I love peanut butter you know it has well I don't know if if england but in the US it has roach legs and rat hair what's this uh a hot dog peanut butter oh roach legs FDA allows a certain amount it's like up to six roach legs or like six red hairs or a certain like gram of roach legs it's it is because it's it's impossible to keep it completely out so the FDA allows a certain amount in our peanut butter so it's it's in there yeah you'll never know well I know what I'm not having I know I quit eat peanut butter since I found out going to start making my own peanut butter now Mr what's wrong with peanut butter the what if you enjoy the crunchy Taste of roach Legs i'mna eat something fing and stuff and yeah yeah maybe a big sausage that satisf all righty Mr B says Larry Graham is considered the father of slap Bas he is because he uh the song uh I don't know how old you people are if you would even know this song but there's one called thank you for letting me be myself right and it's spelled m elf instead of myself but uh he he played he he slapped the base he went and that's the father of slap base what's a popular slap Bas song that we would know oh [ __ ] anything by the Red Hot Chili Peppers really oh okay yeah can you please take from me please Michael somebody was it oh yeah she's saying she's asking me if I can say goodbye for her even though she's here next to me so what's what's the problem with yours I don't have any videos it doesn't move that's cool yeah no yeah do what you want sorry maybe restart your phone baby it's been a long time since you did that that sorts out a lot of problems yes okay I'm going to take your advice cool oh my God it gets even worse restart and come back in two minutes or whatever we try not to miss you too much Internet Guard says I always order extra wasp carcasses in my Fig Newtons there's I drive here you B yourself okay oh you wanted to know do you know why he got fired from James Brown because he did [ __ ] acid one night before a show and he thought the the neck of his base turned into his snake and was trying to ba bite him and he couldn't play and James Brown fired him on the spot and that was he in bootsy's own words he said that pretty much cooled my deal with the Godfather oh because James Brown didn't [ __ ] around on stage you you did what you were up there to do you know you you were being paid you know put on a good show right and they did but if that wouldn't have happened would we have gotten Parliament no you would not worth it I guess in the long run but man Bootsy on some of those songs like uh give it up or turn her to loose on the in the jungle Groove holy [ __ ] he's [ __ ] cooking on on that song it's like I I can't I can fake it but I can't play what he's playing you know like note for note and it's not because I couldn't do it it's just because I don't have the what do you call it the mental uh I don't have the vision to do what he's doing you know physically I could do it but I don't have the mental Vision so could you maybe read it off um from a a musical schore I can't read music I can read Tabler which is the way you fake reading music um but other than that no I I can read a little music like you know if you put [ __ ] Jingle Bells in front of me sure I could read that but you know yeah but you already know how my son did that he will play by ear and then he would stop because they caught him what H my son used to play the drums and he would go by ear not by he couldn't read music until they caught him and then he how to read it he became the captain of the drum line M there's nothing wrong with playing by air but if you if you need thing is if you need to learn it you want to learn a specific tune a song that's already been you know popular song or whatever um it can really help if you you get the specific part for the song the trumpet part say or the drum part and and you can actually learn it as you as you practice Yeah well I've been playing aot Tom Tom Petty of all things I've been playing along with Tom Petty songs and I didn't realize that he had so many radio hits but he has a million of them and uh and the songs are so easy to play on bass guitar but yet they have a a very uh solid feel you know you can feel the rhythm of them and and I like them you know and I'm I'm a metal guy I like Black Sabbath I like you know heavy metal and uh all kinds of dark [ __ ] I like that yeah and I like old rock and roll you know but but this uh this Tom Petty stuff is like I'm thinking you know it's really cool on the bass it's fun to play you know I don't know I guess I'm trying to sell you Tom paty what happened to Jeff he went to bed he just muted a minute probably toilet break what's that what is that it's um my girlfriend's banging away in the background getting some food and [ __ ] um so do you um I I have I've actually never tried a gummy THC gummy but I'd like to try I've had brownies I had a brownie once it was5 um but you know it was less but um same principle it I ate half of it in the morning and H and was really [ __ ] really stoned after an hour or so and then I thought well it didn't really Peak anymore so I just took the other half you know like it's an acid tab or something yeah it was cool the thing is you know you probably had a good uh a good amount of THC in that but when you get them where I am in the states they limit the milligrams to 100 milligrams a bag and there could be there could be 20 gummies in one bag 5 milligram gummies and then and in order to feel anything you have to get at least 200 if not 400 or 500 and they limit you to 500 milligrams a day so you can go today and get 500 milligrams and eat them all at once and that would be the equivalent of you know either 100 gummies or 50 gummies depending on the strength of the individual gummy or you can you know you you can't exceed 500 milligrams in one day you could save them up I suppose if you but yeah I don't know it doesn't seem like it's the same high either like the when I ate the brownies I was intensely high and when I ate the gummies I was intensely High also but in a different way you know yeah it's a different chemical slightly different chemical reaction I hear I mean I I had I ate four brownies one time that was the equivalence of a quarter ounce of weed that had been baked into them and I could not get off the couch I was a prisoner of gravity you know yeah and uh and I have not experience that with with the uh dispensary Edibles you know well we we don't have dispensaries in the UK yet well we do but they they can they're only allowed to sell CBD weed so it's you know I tried some but it doesn't really do much so yeah they got some lovely flavors you know and stuff and lovely shop but they're just not allowed the government says the government still claims that um cannabis is a is a d a harmful and Dangerous Drug that causes can often cause menal um skos frenic [ __ ] type of menal illness in in especially in young people but it's probably they never tell you the percentage of people that affects it's probably less than 1% to be honest of of all cannabis users it's no reason to prohibit the rest of us from enjoying it thank you do you think that the rescheduling here in America will change anything about how they handle it in the UK it might uh disclaimer anything spoken about marijuana use is not condoned to be used by anybody talking about entertainment purposes on this is an entertainment Channel we're just all having fun up here don't take anything we say s we don't know anything correct just talking about talking about my own stuff but yeah the differences between between us you know I'm I'm envious of you guys I really am because you've you the Canadians say that too seen the lights you've seen the error of your ways um prohibition is stupid it was stupid for alcohol it's stupid for marijuana um but it's still it's still federally illegal all across the United States it's it's only on a state level that they legalize it maybe Trump will legalize it it's federally illegal although in Canada it's uh legal throughout the entire country and that's the difference sure sure lucky Canada right but what does that actually mean then so Fally um so Federal uh laws can Trump yes um state law yeah but if there is no federal law then the state law is the highest so each there's no federal law about marijuana right now so the states can create their own so some states it's legal and some states no there is a federal law against marijuana it's completely illegal Across the Nation except for on the state uh yeah the states are legalizing and refusing to to enact it basically oh the states are just like not CU because they had to do something with the banks too I remember to allow these marijuana retail St shops to do banking with the banking system and get around the federal laws and new polls you can't pay with a credit card you have to pay either cash or um but like the businesses set up charge if they charge $3 that's the change you're getting for the using the card but you could pay with card cuz I go to dispensary a lot so yeah pay with card but aren you in California yeah see not I'm on the East Coast none of that [ __ ] you can't pay with no credit card on the East Coast looking good hey Jack welcome so yeah I'm just I'm a Libertarian too along with the the guy was just on the on the corner Steve Steve yeah always been a Libertarian and I don't you know I just I know it sound it kind of sounds a bit simple to me it's like on the surface it's like okay well you just let everyone you know let everyone do their own thing as long as they don't harm you or mess with you or get in your way then it's cool isn't it but then some people are into some really weird and maybe like harm you know I don't know like abusive [ __ ] and obviously that shouldn't be allowed but yeah it's interesting is Ricardo can I ask you serous question of course mom why is it that when a baby kicks its mother in the stomach everybody thinks it's so cute but when I do it they all get mad at me wait you meant to do it from the inside no criminal responsibility then that part yet humus got your humus Bab oh moose says third time I heard this one it's only the second time I told it so shut the [ __ ] up you guys can't hear this but there's a cockail downstairs that is screaming for his life as though he's being tortured because I didn't bring him upstairs to go to bed yet but cockail little one what color is it well it's gray and white and has a yellow head with a Crest yellow Crest I have one of those nice I like that's but he uh he wants to go to bed when it gets dark out or starts to get dark out but I have to give him his medicine at 8:00 which is in 40 minutes from now so I 40 wait how oh yeah never mind I don't like huh what's the medicine for he has a heart problem and he suffers from uh joint pain I think or something I don't know he has pains because he broke his wing one time and did all kinds of [ __ ] you know oh broke his way but he huh broke his wing did they fix it yeah they did actually W they put a little cast on it and uh and he was he tried to get see he thinks it's his job to come downstairs from my my room uh into the kitchen so he [ __ ] with the cast on his wing he actually tried jumping down the stairs because he couldn't fly and he thought it was his job to get downstairs he's crazy he's he's like [ __ ] kamakazi we we like animals hereb I call myself the patron sa of hey I got two goats two three dogs a bird no two birds and then the cat yeah I got I got okay I got goats and all how much you want love the goats I'm gonna Mi I like you guys want to see them yeah I love seeing the goats animal I want to see the birds G to show us a goat goat bird plane train I don't care you get cheese out of it and milk not a bird it produc milk y go oh wow look at this it's got a whole compound from the Prairie that's Sil look it there they are two goats oh hey goats I forgot which one the girl the brown one the white the white one's the male and the brown one is the girl oh okay do they have horn do they get horns at all yet they're still babies they're still babies Oh but they already started ramming each other the face status are they brother and sister no they're different yeah they're different type of goat they're two different kind of goats beautiful but he bar started getting that you see the face it used to be all white and then now that he growing up it's uh getting the brownish on his face oh he's getting the the spots in other words that he need like it's getting more spotted last time I showed you guys he didn't have the left side he didn't have nothing Brown now this time he has brown over the week it's growing all that that brownish on the left side I guess his his uh main coat is coming he's loving that grass yeah the hay they love it this is my adopted dog right here he's uh he was uh in a family that would beat him so I rescued him that so his name is Chewbacca like chewy like like chewbaca hey cheac from hey he's a dirty dog sitting in that puddles he's coughed it's 115 it's it's 115 outside are you in Texas no I'm in Celly oh okay California I'm in California and then I'm going show you my bird let me go to the front of the house yeah my house is very very big and it's very confusing sometimes if you guys were in my house you guys be confused here's the other part of the house if we were there person okay look look at the see I got bird oh hang on let me oh parakeets oh a kakatu like he was talking about the yellow and gray one but it it was too hot I guess they di of heat they're from Australia they can't die of heat no no no well they did the Tatu was right here it was in this one but he passed away they're not imp perious to eat yeah they passed away I got all kinds of animals there's another dog inside oh you want to see my cats I got a mom in a sun watch sure name is Miracle cuz he was the only one that was left because he had the first litter but they all died except for him I couldn't is your house painted green is that the color of the side of your house I love that color front the front the front of the house is Greening the the car see that car that is right there the duster is matching the duster oh wow cuz yeah that's the dad's favorite yeah that's my grand kid that's my kid's um granddad's favorite color see the duster it's intact damn I love that sh I love those two shades together that's like a classic yeah it's a classic yeah it's a one-owner classic car nobody else owns it but my my kids Grandpa and it's intact that the interior is not even ripped or nothing look I'm show you it's intact look look intact wow that back memories yeah but when they turn it on I love it I left the yeah we all have musle CS in the house I have like seven cars I can't show you all of them but yeah there there's my other dog that's my baby right there on just running right there do you have any big dogs that's the biggest I can tell you the one that's over there that I just showed you chewbaca is the biggest I got oh the one in the P yeah the P yet dirty [ __ ] let me show you the cat show the cat don't scare the cat be quiet that is was that a pink room look at wow house hey cat oh oh this is the baby his name is Miracle he's only like months old miracle and this is the mama that's the mama of Miracle that's Harley Quinn yeah that's Harley Quinn Harley Quinn hey harle hey Harley Harley Quinn from the Harley Quinn Harley Miracle he's like who the hell are y y having f are y'all having fun on Labor Day well today's my daughter's birthday and I grew the Wallie I grew the wall see what damn oh well happy birthday uh puffy Puffy's daughter yeah happy birthday she's 24 today wow well thank you 2 and my daughter my daughter's son's going to be one in two more weeks yes I'm a grandama wow amazing I'm only 39 though regeneration are I must mean maybe you all got pregnant at average ofage 13 I was 16 I had her at 16 like I'm from November I had her in September I was going to turn 17 in November wow and then when she was what she had a baby she was 20 she was 22 22 22 22 cuz she's going to be wait she's going to be 23 she's going to be what baby's going to be one yet 22 almost 23 what what day in November 16 oh so Scorpio um she I told her that she was going to do the Mexican um you know the the celebration is on the 16th The Day of the Dead no the 16th of September is the uh Independence Day in Mexico this Fargo season baby so she she had them on the on the day we call it the day of Theo Theo is the Independence Day they scream that they go hey we about Mexico that one but that's not the same as s De Mayo no that's whole different thing de Mayo holiday I believe yeah it's another another Holiday from the yeah it's a yeah it's a whole different thing something my ey hold on but yeah like there's there's the difference between the C de mayo and the trying to betray yourself and the people for you're actually n thank you okay what happened oh somebody got muted Jack I thought somebody got in trouble all right Jeff I'm going to head off for a little while so great conversation as always okay Effigy yeah thank you too take care have a great rest of your labor day you to and uh have a have a good one we'll see you again I don't know y' is it winding down I don't know it sounds like it should we take break somebody got in trouble huh I think your friend got in trouble somebody what you mean got in trouble live on stream My Stream everybody waiting to find out what happens yeah because she said you something about everybody some people and then just you think and when you yeah you're trying to show off yourself something around something like that I was like oh Sam's in trouble but like why wouldn't they sign off cuz they got in trouble you didn't hear me you didn't hear oh yeah plasma you too good to see you and thanks for listening as well I still can't believe that people take us like out and about with them did you do anything cool for Labor Day wow I love the or I love the color scheme black and orange that's pretty cool for Satanist it's a good choice that's right public transportation but um I know in Seattle they have programs where if you can't afford they have like lowincome ways to ride the train so they they look they they provide for that but most people can afford the dollar to that it takes to transport them where they need to go all right well I guess I can't really end in the middle of that can I all right Ricardo what's going on everything okay yeah I'm cool man I'm fine I'm just having a bit well just trying trying not to have an argument with anyone but me and me and the MS are just having a bit of a back and forth major like oh wow because everything just wanted to keep it off YouTube because it's p you know it's person yeah yeah that's what I was yeah probably quite boring for other people as well so you we're aware of that fre feel free to drop off or whatever you need to do no big deal sure man um I'm happy to be here I think he should leave I want to join the I want to be part of the conversation oh she she wants you she wants you like you've had your stream time and you want to stay on that's what it is that part like the video game addiction scenario yep i' ask somebody who's dated somebody with video addiction I'm already my bias is already toward her because I've lived through that um and here's something else that might tilt the balance welcome back Mike and welcome back Ley yo what's going on what's up what's up we're I think we're in a transition oh and then Jack's about to come on so that'll change the balance too transition yeah if there's if there's if anyone needs an intermission Now's the Time to do it cuz I think we're about to uh move move on to the next ACT we take a break what we're calling it nowadays act no I no just like Jack's going to come up in about 12 minutes and then um Ley and you just came up so I think that's going to shift the conversation yeah to New New Horizons or maybe the same old Horizons over and over just revisit again welcome back Mike hey how you doing brother good man what's going on oh Mike's back that's who come up with me it's Mike yeah walked in together the conversation that that's just kind of a good joke right there you got the onew punch Ley and s coming up don't ever put us in the same sentence like that Sone oh are you are you one of his fans too I didn't realize what am I a fan uh yeah are you able to be on the same stream together sure we were on the same seem to do a pretty good job it's your panel I can be cordial on your panel CU I have manners my parents taught me right well you you were a credit to that crew well how I feel about Mike is is well known and I can keep it at that because I'm a mature adult and I can have a mature conversation even with somebody that I don't like or care for because that's how I am I can I can talk to anybody because I don't give a [ __ ] hey you know what's beautiful about that that's how it used to be with like politics and our families we used to sit at the table and uh you know argue our different sides and like we could walk away from it and everybody was still cool but then like 20 years later and now it's like if you even like think differently they're the enemy yeah yeah I think a lot of it if if you agree and you tell me your opinion a lot of society now push more control people want to control each others like they're trying to eliminate freeth thinking I don't know if you believe that to be true but remember you had those people that just were freeth thinkers you know they they could think what they want they could they could change their mind and but you didn't get lambasted for it you didn't get you know yelled at and look at this idiot I think there's definitely some like group think or indoctrination going on where there's a certain narrative or party line that you're expected to tow and you either conform to it you don't but that's not thinking I've seen people I've seen people on panels like a panel owner I've seen it with my own eyes telling certain panel members you can't like that person or you can't come back what the what like like mean the the I wouldn't come back like nobody tells me who I can like and not like but Jeff they come right back they're they're sheep yeah you know no one's going to tell me not who to like and who not to like I'm just not going to just's not going to deal with that you know but I mean I might judge you for who you like but I'm not going to stop you from like try to stop you from liking you can't I can't control who people like yeah but if you notice in in a gang of negativity there's always one lead there's always one person that's leading people into that Circle of negativity and I'm gonna try something try to refresh and come back in hold on okay sounds good Ley who's the the lad of negativity is that combat wombat did I say that oh come no no no we not going there uhuh uhuh when I said we're we're transitioning and resetting and moving on I didn't mean back to that topic I think it's a good generalization I made that usually in um circles there's one person that's the strongest of the hatred and people just got to follow that hatred I think that's plausible there go maybe but we we talk about this topic a lot so today's a chance to talk about that too much I'm sorry I could hear it why is the sky blue let's talk about why the sky is blue why is it blue because it absorbs all the other colors of the spectrum and it reflects back the blue yeah it's because you observe it that it's blue yeah well it appears blue to us as it doesn't have any objective color way it reflects yeah that is that is true it has to do with the reflection the color you're seeing is the color that's not being absorbed and it the light the wavelength that's not being absorbed and it's being reflected back and black that's why black is the um white is all all the colors mixed together and nothing's being reflected back and black is everything's being reflected back I believe so black is actually the absence of color and white is all the colors no Black's all the colors because are the reverse but it's what like what are those two hey SP but here's a question for you now now perception everything in life is perception like time and uh you know just just now the the way you perceive color is the same as Cerone and puffy and me and Spike and like you know what I mean what I see is blue is same blue you see or we taught what we see as blue is blue you get my point you get what I'm saying yeah like do we all perceive and reflect light back do all of our eyes work the same way I don't know how they proved it but they have proven that we all see the same but but color is um that's added in by the brain it's not something that that's true that's true the colors it is not what it is to theme like we don't have color to ourselves we see the color but actually in real reality we don't have the color that we're seeing yeah and other animals are going to see different colors because their brains the present different colors well insects can perceive things on the infrared spectrum and we can't you know so they can perceive colors and things that we don't see insects because it's patterns that they recognize to go pollinate the flower and it's it's invisible to our our Spectrum you don't believe that certain people are color blind you ever heard that you people there we go I was going to say that some people are color blind no there are I I know people that are color blind my ex one of my I had to look at the positions of the the traffic lights cuz he could tell the green he was red green color blind well I don't I don't see race I'm color blind I I me too I'm oblivious to race I just don't see it I'm gonna talk about that tomorrow because that's one of the issues that comes up in this Dei training thing is that not seeeing race is actually harming black people and that that the the inability to see race is harmful now and that you should fol you should notice race because that's how you help black people so they've reversed it and now the people that are looking past skin color are actually the people doing harm I did once hear a uh black woman say that somebody that says that is as racist as anybody else I'm like H how can you say that like me being a veteran and [ __ ] like and being Serv with all all walks of life you know what I mean it's I don't know it's very I don't I don't think someone else has the ability to tell you you're racist or or what your thoughts are what's in your head if you take a racist act they they if you take an act they can evaluate that against our current standards for discrimination but to to overreach and purport to tell you what is in your head hell no [ __ ] no not in America how dare like that that infuriates me that people would even think that they had the right to attempt that and that everyone else is going along with it you don't get to to tell me I'm a racist unless you have something to back it up and we have like a court system for that all I know is Jeff if you don't stop abusing the Jews the way you do on a daily basis we're going to have a problem because you I don't even know who's Jewish or not I wouldn't I couldn't tell any of you could be Jewish I wouldn't even know it's like being gay and um but the thing I think the thing and Jack was talking about this is that the racism they're talking about is not the racism that I think of when I think of R so I think the word racism is referring to something different now that's throwing off the conversation because yes I have a problem with people being called something that they're not being accused of something they're not being accused of being a thief being accused of being a child abuser being accused of being a bad person or toxic what if they're not actually that thing I do have a problem with that and I don't apologize for it it's fair enough it's a fair fair assessment racism is a li I think they're the racist they're the only ones that are obsessed with race while the whole rest of the world has moved on I think everyone's a racist in one way or another I'd say we're tribal and we have ingroup outgroup preferences I don't know what internalized racism is well that's like if you're in in the Middle East and you're a Shia and someone else is a you know whatever the hell the other thing is Sun yeah and you don't get along so you're racist internally I mean you're both from the same general race but you're uh you're attacking each other for you know subtle internal differences how does defensiveness indicate guilt defensiveness is a completely normal reaction to being accused of something that you you're defending truth the truth about yourself like how does that indicate you're racist that makes no sense if if you lie about me or accuse me of something that I'm not I'm going to be defensive that is the default normal reaction it doesn't prove what you're accusing me of and more than likely it proves that I'm it's not that thing or I would even be having that reaction so if this is the logic and the reasoning that supports this crap you can see why I have a problem with it it's good to question these things don't presume to lecture me on racism I'm from the rural South and I grew up black so don't tell me about racism either look I feel like there's more Prejudice in the world than there is racism really like and is Prejudice like like making assumptions out people before you know anything about them so like like seeing them as a white man as a form of prejudice because you don't know anything about them as an individual because that's what the Dei people are doing as well they're classing everybody into these demographics and they're creating narratives about you're if you're in this when in 2020 and the work I do we got from the the county or the state or something they had just put out this guide for working with different populations and I'm not kidding it was like a section on if you're working with black clients this is what you need to know about them and this is how you should approach them if you're working with Mexican clients this is what you need to know about like they had everybody reduced to their cultural background and then they had rules of of what you should assume about them and how you should approach them because they're that demographic not get to know them as an individual but it was this template and they had if if they're gay or if they're trans uh this is what you need to know and do this you don't got to talk to me like that it was disgusting I can't believe people think this is a good thing for society out of it when they talk about like white privilege and [ __ ] like that and then I think about well let's look about these high prominent jobs like as far as doctors and lawyers and like Specialists like that that go they're they're people of foreign descent you know they're Indian they're Asian they're they're [ __ ] from Germany you know like you don't you don't have no real Americans the Forefront of medicine or physics or science in general you know because I just read an article and it was talking about how how like on average a white a white couple how the hell was I it was based on like percentages and [ __ ] like that there but it was like something about like the Indian population makes roughly 103,000 or something like that as a median average where like the white family makes like 83,000 on a median average and like they broke they broke it down to races and and all that and like ethnic groups and I think the more important thing is that Jack is driving and he's yeah Jack we can wait till you get home this conversation will still be here I just left home oh okay I'm talking to you on my way to somewhere else he's gonna crash before he hits the end of the driveway I'm handsfree right now what the [ __ ] you talking about look here's the red light I stopped the [ __ ] what do you want from me you don't have a light this is an awkward camera though for sure anyway we were talking about how we hate the blacks or something we're talking about how like a lot of people think that everybody else hates the blacks when we don't but they insist that they know that we hate the blacks when we really don't but but they convince themselves of that anyway and then they enact policies based on that for sure so have we come up with um a good enough word to describe like you know maybe you're not being like racist like a malicious conscious action but like maybe you have some like subconscious bias going on about how like maybe like how trustworthy someone is and that's maybe based on like their style of dress how they talk thate to a degree I could go with bias I I could go but that' still be Prejudice gr prer and appearance so why is bias a big like they make it sound like something like bias is as bad as actual racism where people were lynching people and they had Sundown towns and they had Jim Crow laws and SE they make out like something like bias is as dastardly as that other stuff yeah I mean because in the context of like the modern world like you know if you're deciding like who's trustworthy or not um like like trustworthy enough for a loan and you can only give out so many loans and like you know your judgment like leads you to like you know accept exclusively White instead of like also some black people I don't believe most people are do I don't think that applies to most people and we already have laws against that I think most people when they're handing out loans are probably evaluating it by whatever rubric you're supposed to evaluate loans if they have to use any kind of subjective like element to their judgment I don't believe most people are saying there's a black person in front of me and I don't like black people I'm not giving this low I just don't believe for the majority of people that that's that's what's happening to the extent that it needs to be issue that Society has to focus on Jeff can you give acknowledgement to the wonderful pieces of art that have been presented to you I sure can wow what is the is the first one from the other day or did you do that one today too that's the oh wow well I will say I watched her drw most of that upside down and that's like yeah as impressive as the picture I hope that's not offensive to say wait say what I like the the fact that they like drew it upside down um is like almost as impressive as how oh yeah no yeah that's what she's uh she's know for she comes and draws upside down all the time sure yeah know that's super cool yeah well Jeff I gotta go I'll see you later man thank you for having me up yeah it was cool Z thank you have a good rest of your labor day you too peace out man peace out choices make your own choices drive fast take chances there we can um let's let's Center puffy there that that feels none of this feels right actually let's yeah I'm upside down this is wild this feels weird oh it feels weird to you yeah I'm just I'm just I'm just joking I'm just joking I think it's cool actually adds novelty to the panel right well what's going on over there Mike you're just chilling I just had dinner and I'm just chilling relaxing what' you have I made a burger what type of burger did you have cheese on it yes what type of cheese Swiss did you have bacon that good did you have bacon no no bacon no he's slowly building the bir you have did you have onions on it grilled onions D tomato you grilled them yourself yeah I grill myself no I don't I don't do the Le tomato I just do I usually do grilled onions I usually would puton on it I didn't have any turkey bacon okay Oh Hang let me see what this did you have mayonnaise did you have ketchup or mustard don't use any condiments no condiments you like it dry huh well no I make it I make it like um medium rare and then with the cheese and everything it's just I mean it's it's perfect you still got to have a condiment Mike I don't eat them gotta have do you have it where like the cheese is like HW Tua on that thing he good really juicy well he's doing some hot to and as dry as that [ __ ] is it's like a desert sandpaper really good good um M Corner what I you don't have to tell me where you are but what parts of the country this is this happening I'm very interested to know like Uncle fatty lives up in northern Idaho and he talks a little bit about people that show up at protest and stuff so so that's the extent as far as I don't know if PE places where people are going to get their head bashed in in 2024 for being gay so I'm I'm just curious like what parts of the state I are like still most risky I don't know what this guy's talking he's normally quite in but now he's talking crazy I have no idea I can't Dee any this I did watch some Jehovah Witnesses get beat down cuz they were at the Christmas parade uh saying Santa Claus is the devil and [ __ ] like that in front of a bunch of kids that's that's hateful and uh yeah and uh I mean they were doing up and down the street course Christmas parade bunch of kids out there and uh the local bikers didn't take too kindly to it and uh they beat the holy snot at them yeah yeah M corner I have one of my best friends moved to Branson Missouri for a while and um and she loved it and she's she's she's an alphabet person and raising two beautiful kids herself and and um I have another friend that has some property down in Missouri and does min's work and I've been invited down there many times and he he seems very welcoming so even what you're describing here doesn't track with what I know about the area you're talking I just don't believe that there's neanderthals with Spike clubs out there hunting people they suspect of being gay and bashing them in well that sounds ridiculous died like tens of thousands of years ago Jeff yeah the the the scientific neanderthals but the metaphorical ones that are in his mind I think are still alive yeah you probably know a few people that would be violent toward gay people I don't think that's the majority of Americans but like by a log shot and and the the polling of the data would even support that at this point I think I think now it's more all the the uh extra alphabet at it h what the [ __ ] my uh the wife was watching one of them new 90day fiance shows and there was a part she had to rewind it because this dude said he was some type of sexual right she had to rewind it she goes what the [ __ ] is he talking about and my kid was down here and she was like what what what the [ __ ] is it and apparently it has to do with when you have a sexual attraction to feem feminine uh feminine qualities about people you know what I mean I'm like what the so like you could be attracted to a man or a woman as long as they're feminine yeah I guess I guess is that called I don't I know there's F phobia sounded like Dino Dino filia I don't know go oh autophilia that's when a um a heterosexual man gets turned turned on by the idea of himself as a female well he directs his attraction to women onto himself anyways that's what he described himself as and my wife was just like shaking her head and of course I was like what the [ __ ] is this [ __ ] like you know what I mean like like I I get the the whole gay like I just wish we' go back to the gay you know being gay now they want the gays back being gay being [ __ ] drag queen like you know what what the [ __ ] happened to the day of a maites you know it's going to get even weirder [ __ ] man like 10 years from now you're going to be asking for the TRS of the non-binaries back I don't know man F weird that's all I [ __ ] know man like I I feel like if you're going to have like all these [ __ ] dudes turn into women and women turn into dudes like there needs to be a card that they give out and be like hey I used to be this but I'm now this like that should be a requirement to tell someone cuz like just think about it like the psychological damage you could do to somebody if they didn't know and then like all of a sudden they did know like I think it's a shitty thing to do to a person I think it makes them a pretty awful person to deceive somebody like that it happens it's just like ites it Happ just like people with STDs I know there's people out there that [ __ ] don't say a [ __ ] word and you know what I mean they us do that with HIV too like there were people that wouldn't disclose their status and I think all of that is is selfish immoral whatever you want to call it destructive okay this is illegal mcarter so I'm not concerned about this one guy who said that if he actually takes action on that and refuses to rent for me specifically for those reasons then it's an issue but but I don't think it's indicative of most of the people in America like most people in the work force that that go to these Dei trainings I don't think this guy is indicative of them yeah he has a point it's only illegal if someone enforces it though yeah yeah well we have like we have I've I've I've done civil rights complaints myself I know for a fact there's a system that at least investigates into yeah and if somebody's threatening someone you know to off them and you know then the FBI will get involved because that's a serious crime you know you can't threaten to kward somebody and if you feel fully threatened Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike stop this conversation sir please we can't have this conversation going down who's we is this your channel Ley Ley is this your channel well it would I would say the same thing you say stat up a whole can of worms of statements that you've made though and we're trying to avoid that I was talking me to I won't I won't talk move I'm just saying move on is that your little PS For The Night Le is your little pounce for you and wait for the pounce it's all my little pounce Mike what are you talking about I'm not even being a dick do you want me to be a [ __ ] because I can but I'm not I'm just saying no I don't want either one of you to be a [ __ ] I want both of you hang on okay hang on I'm sorry oh sorry jackow rburg hey go okay I have a new pitch oh sorry I was just I was just saying I didn't want it to open up into a can of worms because I know what it will bring cuz like I'm thinking these thoughts you know what I mean as soon as he said it so I can just think what other people in the chat and that might pop up on the panel might say so Mike should I just trying to it's going to be a [ __ ] show if he continues with that conversation that Senate I didn't realize there was the hostility between the two of you that there was so I think maybe having both you on the panel together is not a good idea I try not to have hostility like I try to keep it cordial but like you say something to him like that and he gets a he thinks like I'm trying to be a [ __ ] I'm just trying to be like yo Mike you have said you have threatened that yourself to people so by you saying that statement you're admitting that that you know what you do is a crime and is wrong I'd rather not talk about any of that on this channel honestly exact stuff I want on the channel that's what I was trying to get out you know that's why I was trying to cut it off at the head boom done kill the serpent right there seems like well he I know he's a trigger for a lot of people and and some of you do your best keep circling back every time it's like oh I wasn't trying no I'm not trying I'm not and then it's like five I know there's this passive aggressive [ __ ] Dynamic that never gets turned off and I I think a lot of people do their they really do their best but to deny that it's not there is it's there I just I just was I just trying to keep it from going south that's all that's all Jeff just trying to keep it from going south because I know I know where that conversation was going and I could see it but the fact that that potential is even there shows that just it's funny that he brought it up because like there's a a recent video released of him saying that words to a female on YouTube of him threatening that to a a fem I don't care about any of that here so like you know I'm just saying the little bubble away from all that the drama Oasis yeah and in fact I will make a deal with y'all right now if y'all keep the drama on all the other channels and all that I will continue to have this space be a little Oasis away from that that you can come recharge this could be our break from the drama and I won't go so hard on the drama if you if you agree to keep it on other channels how about that I wasn't trying to this could be not you particularly I'm just talking to the chat in general this could be the little drama free space like what is it like the little Zone where the neutral zone where people agree to not talk about those topics here and then y'all can have them on all the other panels this could be your little like chill out room from that wait should so so should I not bring up my new meme yes bring up your new meme okay you have it in your car or you just G to describe it hair color is well defined um there are three types of hair color uh there is black there is brown and there is blonde that's it do you have any do you have any problem with this no is this science or is just a meme are you saying scientifically this is fact I mean there are only three colors of hair like okay have you ever seen anyone I I with any other color like you know like there's black brown blonde that's it yes I've seen white I've seen red I've seen I used to have purple I used to have blue green well like I mean so like white is a function of age right and red is like it's a it's super rare right you know like like they're less than 2% of the population so like I mean so 98% of the time there are only three hair pellets right yeah sure I I appreciate what you're doing but I think it's beside the point because I don't think that that's what most people struggle with but I I see the point you're making I don't disagree with it well what is the point that I'm making I'm on your side about the bodal thing I'm on your side about the little Wikipedia graph we saw I'm confused what was his point my criticism is is the activism like the the the the act the the implementation like what the actions they take on their beliefs not not the science behind it itself he well he's making a point AA that that's with the gender like the what would you call us gender critical oh no I think my stream went out no biological sex is a construct but biology is not a social construct and things like penises and vaginas and sperms is not a social construct that's all I'm sorry like all those words you just use to describe all those things like are those like Divine statements that are Universal truths or is that like sounds that we made up to describe these different types of categories I'm just saying they're thing like a penis is a real thing whatever however talk about itally you're not going to convince many people that penises are not an actual thing what I'm so confused how did we get to this com can someone Enlighten the lobster over here please all biological sex is a social contract is that sirenes does that catch you up I don't know he's saying biological sex is socially constructed whatever that means and I'm saying I know that my biology is not a social construct I know that what I'm attracted to is not a social construct what I what I do sexually is not a social those are actual biological realities okay so when you say biological realities like what do you mean by that like do you mean there's like a Transcendent truth that biology I mean I have a physical body like you're aren't you a scci like a biological scientist uh yes so I mean by biology that it exists and that it like I have I an organism it applies to me it's not a social construct it's a material reality I experience every day my my body is not a social construct you're you're you're you're playing games I don't know where you going with this you know that you of all people in this panel know what biology is and that it's not a social construct no it is a social contract no oh my God hang on I hang on I I'm gonna need a few minutes because I need to rewar my brain for for a a a SC a biological scientist telling me that biology is a social construct I mean science is a social construct right like humans made up but material reality the body is not a social construct this this right here that I'm like my Consciousness is is embedded in right is not a social construct it is a material reality it has matter it has atoms it has molecules so if you're prepared to deny all of that and say that's just a social construct I'm going to need a few minutes well what's his what's his definition of social construct then uh I mean it is something constructed by Society uh my body was not constructed Ed by Society it was created by the union of a sperm and an egg that's not a social construct body ontological category of a body like the material reality of a body that is something that humans made up right no humans did not make up their bodies this is I've got to be missing something or this is this is a a swell troll materialize their own bodies but I'm saying is that like when we describe our bodies like but but that's separate from the the phenomena of the body itself the reality of the body itself like and scientists know this because they study molecules and atoms and chemistry so they know that's not imaginary just socially constructed things that humans made up if you're talking about language okay language emerged from inner subjectivity which is social but that doesn't negate the language is not the the body it's not the physical reality itself so it it seems like just word games at this point of oh the body is a social construct well no not really linguistically the concept of a body is a social construct well we're not talking about the concept of the body I'm talking about my actual physical body okay um what what is your body make is a real thing uh the body's made up of uh atoms and molecules yeah it has extension in space and time I can experience I mean more matter I mean we're made up of matter so if I were to scrape one Adam off of Jeff would Jeff still be Jeff yeah would that adom that I scraped off still be Jeff yeah it'd be a part it' be an extension of Jeff okay yeah but it's none of it's a social construct because if you if you tested that adom it's going to come back that it come from Jeff so so I I don't I don't understand how this this supports your argument for social construct what what do my Adam me social construct in my opinion is more like the way Society has things set up like like roles particular people play like like the social construct of how like a village works and stuff like you have Elders you have people that go hunting you have people that that cook and clean you have the people that take care of the children like this is just generic fundamentals of how life works but you have the social construct of how all that works and the roles people play I mean that that's more my my opinion of what it is if you're talking about language then just call it language you don't have to call language is social construct I don't believe language is constructed I believe it it's an emergent phenomena but but I don't know what any of this has to do with sex or even maybe gender well I mean the the sex part I mean you could be you can be influenced possibly from your from your environment your social your Social Circle you know what I mean the things you're but it doesn't influence whether you have penis or not well no no I'm not saying that I'm not saying but it could now because if you look it seems like almost every [ __ ] movie or TV show has has that character where where you know somebody's battling with whether or not they want to be a man or a woman and [ __ ] like that there it seems to be in every single [ __ ] show now you can't get away from it yeah and that's probably a legitimate experience for some people but but even that doesn't negate the fact that I have a I have a physical body I have a penis some people have a vagina I mean those are real things those are not constructed they're not con if they're constructed by anything they're constructed by nature but it's not they're not constructed by human society Human Society did not create the physical Universe [ __ ] no who the [ __ ] there's something I'm missing that he's either not articulating or I'm not grasping or or this is some kind of semantic game I don't know I'm confused I think that might be part of the intent I don't get where he was going with it I I just don't well we can I mean we can get more clues although I do got to know with that mustache do you go to the world mustache competitions use that Palm Olive and twist them make it look real fine look like evil Western dude are you able to you may have heard us are you able to hear us I don't I don't think we're hearing you it's just I don't think my joke is working he don't think I'm funny I think he's I don't think he has his connection his audio bis where is Natasha um Shady my plan is to it just depends on how the panel goes um I'm also getting a headache yeah take take care we'll we'll talk later oh I don't if he can hear me in the back um yeah person in the back yes take care and have a good day and we we we'll talk again oh man I wasn't trying to be negative I'm just trying to stop a argument man I feel bad kind of no you have to feel bad you don't you don't have to feel bad I said kind of not really maybe no no but there is there is hostility that that I would prefer Jeff Jeff Jeff listen listen when I when I'm saying look Mike I tried to do this with with Dave too with with uh Savage Dave like dude you you got to stop drinking and you get like on so much on YouTube and putting your foot in like I tried to tell that dude that and then he kept trying to think I was attacking him same thing with Mike he thinks I'm trying to attack him when I'm like dude stop it like you're gonna start a can of worms like with that conversation like someone will try to pop up on this panel and it will turn into a [ __ ] show if you continue with that statement that's all I was trying to get out and then I was going to carry on but I know that you have a history like there is this hostility and not just you like a lot of people have it I see it on the panel all the time he he he evokes it at people he brings it out of me I I'll try to have a conversation with anybody like I said like I don't [ __ ] everybody makes a million [ __ ] memes and [ __ ] you go on that tener there that gift thing for your keyboard or whatever you can type in Mike's throne and there's a [ __ ] gift in Mike you know what I mean like that's how much time people waste that's how much PE time Mike wait people waste their time on Mike theone like like it boggles my mind I'm not on YouTube for a month I I I leave YouTube they're talking about Mike Sone I come back they're still talking about Mike Sone somebody should study it it's quite a only differenes now Mike's own apparently he's on the outs with with banana so so now they just talk [ __ ] about both of them at the same time now so it's it's hilarious to me like you know what I mean I'm just like how can somebody dedicate that much time like I see Mike's Point like how do you dedicate that much time to me like he is great content I get that for people that have nothing else to do great content make your money on that boo boo do whatever you got to do make that CH whatever you got to do make the funny [ __ ] but I still implore you to ask yourself how do you have that much [ __ ] time on your hand to find every single panel and clip of Mike I've been wondering the same things like you know what I mean like how do you like even this Connie fella this [ __ ] Rebel fella like I don't understand like I just don't understand that construct of [ __ ] either like who carne f is that what she called him no Connie Connie Connie you talking about Jack who's Connie I don't know some Rebel guy I don't oh somebody else okay I thought yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm just saying like he's a [ __ ] ebegger and [ __ ] like it's just like how but everybody seems to troll him and make content about him I'm like how like why why does anybody care he does stupid silent streams that nobody talks like you know what I mean like come on like why why you even put put he he I just I don't get it I don't get it yeah I don't either exactly exactly see even see I had words with Tommy Once Upon a Time about something stupid it was and you know what I've moved the [ __ ] past it and I have conversations with Tommy when I have the opportunity you know what I mean because it's [ __ ] I'm a grown ass [ __ ] man like like yeah I also smoke that sometimes okay did you hear me about the mustache though do you do mustache competitions do you roll it and twist it with the Palm all I mean yeah I mean oh you a daan guy yeah oh you break it up you're robotic EX for now obiously Jack your connection's robotic it's breaking up bad how about now it's a little better now yeah all right I just signal back to the topic man what the [ __ ] is the topic I don't even know I'm lost well Jack and I are working up at some point it it doesn't even have to be today but people call Ev like everything that happened from like let's say the Civil War or prior to now in the like whatever's happening in the workplace they all call it racism but I think that the racism I'm talking about and the racism Jack's talking about is actually different enough that we could call it different things and have have separate conversations about it yeah I mean we can call it literally whatever you want I I'm okay with bias we could call it bias yeah bias but bias is something we all have I don't think that's like a national crisis yeah I mean I think the left has biases against males and whiteness and and religion and stuff like that so I think any group you could find some biases in the group and we and America has been getting a long despite our biases for my whole entire life like I don't know what extra help the and and the other oh the other thing I want to mention you talked about like the vaccine and proof of outcome like outcome human outcome or whatever but so far what I'm seeing from the Dei outcomes is it's not working and and if and some in some cases making thing worse so when people are evaluating the outcomes of it it's not validating the claims of Dei so anyway that that's a conversation that is going to happen at some point however it happens but that's uh lined up as well and then anyone's invited to contribute their own topics of conversation too hey Allan what's up Happy Labor Day um y'all probably don't have that over there but I hope you have a good anyway a good day whatever the day is to you have a good day sir or ma'am Madam yeah you too Ricardo that was a very pleasant surprise and a nice Labor Day yeah beautiful day well I'm interested to know if we have any Jews blacks hispan panics out there and you want to let us know in the comments or come up and tell us why you vote Democratic if you do because I know I know people from every one of those groups that vote Republican as well so so there are people in those groups that vote Republican but yes and I want to see if they match I want to see if all the Jews say that it's for the same reason and the blacks and the Hispanics I I honestly don't know I'm I'm willing to I'm willing to find out like investigate fight out I don't have any I don't have any hypothesis about what the conclusion might be I also feel like a lot of times it has to do with your region and the area you you live in you know what I mean because that plays a lot into influence into your your political views and things like that because I I feel like since I live in the town where I live in now like I've lived here for I don't know SE going on seven years now and uh I mean My Views have kind of they've changed a little bit not a whole lot but I'd say they've been influenced by by some of the things that's happened here in town did you um grow up in that area I mean I did grow up in this area yeah yeah but I mean but still even where I grew up to here it's I mean it's 25 miles but it's still like a whole different culture really here it's more F lobster fishing stuff like that there where me it it's more blue it was blueberry Fields clamming and worming you know so oh man I love blueberry I love blueberry picking so um Allan I haven't watched it yet actually I've been streaming so much I I don't know of anybody though uh Jeff if I I'm G if I share a link in the back of it's okay so it's maybe it will create conversation it's a a video about if the Simpsons was created today what like what they it would be like and why I think it it kind of goes into our conversation say that again about the Simpsons okay okay so it's a it's a video based on like what the Simpsons would be today if the Simpsons was created today of what it would be and the and why it would be the way it is versus if it uh blah blah I'm tongue twisting here okay let me start over all right so it's a video over the differences if the sance was created today versus when it debuted in 1989 it's pretty much like how different it would be because the social differences and all that oh wow uh it's on YouTube yeah let me see if I could find this yeah I would love to see that if I drop down I'll be back yeah I know and M Corner actually I remember cuz I used to watch The Apprentice a lot um when he first started to run or like I think he like floated a campaign the psycho before but he ended up not running but at some point I remember he showed up in the news as a birther talking about Obama wasn't born the and I remember just rolling my eyes and thinking how ridiculous this silly man was um and I never took that seriously and so that that is you're right that is for me like really a mark against Trump like it it really is a barrier for me taking him too Ser which is a good thing so I'm y'all never have to worry about me like falling for the Trump Cod at the birther thing is part of that reason um I I I nah I've been look I look at the pupes i' I'd want to see those because it's way more diverse than the republic party I'm looking at which might be your bias maybe you want to test that there there we go all righty all right oh now it's the okay let's see um oh wow oh he breaks it down I see he like narrates it yeah yeah but I fig I have to watch I'll probably watch it tonight in fact let me um save it no I think you're wrong and Pew divided um they divide they get more granular than just the right and the percentages change depending on which group you're looking at but I don't even think the most in fact let me pull it up I don't even think the most extreme group or what they call the uh faith and flag conservatives which I guess would be the furthest to the right I don't even think that they are 90% but I'm going to check let's see if they have their demographic breakdown um they break it down by political positions but I don't see it broken down by religion let me check the individual coalitions well let me see if if you have a link if you can fact check or you have a link M corner even in my day I wouldn't say they were the bulk the Republican party is the religious right which by the way have you read the new updated Republican platform they hardly got any of the stuff that used to be like all the religious and Christian stuff that used to be on the platforms none of it's in there anymore and it was like uh Finance like big business big finance and it was military mostly so it wasn't all it wasn't just like a group of 90% Christians like you have such a distorted view of the Republican party it probably comes from the media you consume because I don't know how many actual Republicans you talk to down there where you are well Obama said it best it's either chicken or fish you might not like chicken or fish but those are your choices you got to choose one in this case I guess it's pick your poison Trump I personally feel Trump's the better better choice out of the two they're both [ __ ] dumb candidates but Trump's definitely the better choice out of the two in my opinion all right I think I found some religious stats let's see 82% according to Pew lean Christian or are 82% of Christians lean hang on that's not the right stat um I want how much how how what percent of the Republican party is Christian they're giving me what percent of Christians are Republican let me see if AI could help out well wouldn't that be the almost the same thing right if you're asking how many Republicans are Christians and it's telling you how many Christians are Republicans yeah but you'd have to know like how many other people are also Republicans um the AI saying it cannot help with that right now let me try and chat GPT and if anyone has a source because I I I don't know but I doubt it's 90% white and Christian you're out this shit's out of my my wheelhouse I'm having a hard time finding I don't do that [ __ ] do you have a link CA um like a Pew let's see pew let's let me try this sorry we we're getting there folks um oh maybe Wikipedia will have demographics 82% Christian so that's not 90% but okay even if it's 80% um that that's high know like I I could that's majority enough so if someone says Republicans a majority Christian this is what I found Jeff hold on I'll send you the and then see if you can find race as well look look at that and see if that uh is if you can decipher that um part let's see party f Oh by religious group maybe this no I needed to go the other way around let's see uh belief in God by political party now Pew says 73% of Republicans believe in God so I don't know you have 82% Christian but only 73% believe it in God there seems like there's some though there's some a atheistic Christians in there a significant amount of them to me or the polling could be like maybe from different years hold on but it's believing God absolutely certain uh fairly certain not too not too certain believe in God don't know and then other so I mean it's all believe it's broke it breaks it down even further in it you know that it breaks it down even further though because if you look at that it says 73 definitely 100% believes in it and then it breaks it down to from that all the way down to believe in God but don't don't think he exist or whatever okay let's see ethnicity um it would be more like what percentage of them are Catholic verus Christian they did say that the majority is evangelical followed by Mainline Protestant but it it's always been that way but who the [ __ ] knows man I thought they were supposed to be a separation from State and church anyways there is that's why I'm not worried about anything it like it wins every time and the satanic temple is constantly challenging the like the instances of it all across the country in different states and they win almost every time the courts say no you can't there's separation Church to State you can't do this you can't do this you can't do this the separation Church I'm not wor like the Louisiana law they just passed with the Ten Commandments it's going to get shot down well so is there is there a satanic equivalent to the Ten Commandments not really they have they have what they call tenants and the SAT the Church of Satan has rules or guidelines but they're just um suggestions like just little guidelines to live life by they're not it's not an authoritarian religion so nobody commands us to do anything it's not a religion of followers in general we don't follow Satan we just use him as a figure of inspiration so like there's no there's no like lamb sacrifices and altars and not I don't have an Al I don't have I'm just I'm just trying to be funny I'm just trying to be funny that's the stereotypical Satan satanic person well that's where I got my antlers from yeah yeah you would killed Bambi did you bamb Bambi I hated that as a kid watching the mama get killed in the forest burned down uh [ __ ] my uncle was like got should have shot should have shot Bambi too oh [ __ ] I don't I have no okay you now I know you now I know you foolish in the head I have no idea what whiteness is hey fun with dirt um so this this abstract thing called whiteness is a fundamental part like whatever it is it's fundamental to the Republican party that I'm going to need to SE some evidence for I don't even know what that means is it like it's a bunch of white people that like a racist group like all the white people got together and and said well why do they let other minorities in in the first place well it sounds like a conspiracy like people think that all the Jewish people are colluding and coordinating to run the world it sounds like you think that all the white people are colluding and coordinating into something called the Republican party to establish themselves as like the dominant power you know everybody's talking about this new world order and the Illuminati for years and years I I like to know when the [ __ ] this master plans going to go go into effect where there going to be a one world [ __ ] economy and [ __ ] like what how is this going to be I'm not saying there's not rich people that's not out there that is uh know how to get things and know how to make things happen I'm not saying that but can they do it on a global level like what people say I think not it's just like when people say like the moonland and all that [ __ ] was fake and that the Earth and and it's just how how do people get to that it's but like there's then this [ __ ] like the pyramids well how the hell did they build them [ __ ] things or or why were they built exactly and what's all these weird bag dag batteries they found and like strange [ __ ] strange strange [ __ ] and really I mean what 3500 years in human bones gone anyway so so who knows who how old human civilizations is you're just dating it back on fossils and genetics and I just I don't know yeah we we work with the evidence that we have and we do the best we can and it could change if we get new information but um oh okay I got okay I got confused you were talking about like decades ago like Richard Nixon was I was a I was a baby when Richard Nixon was president and so you're you're going way back and now I know why I'm confused cuz I looked up the southern strategy of Wikipedia and it talked about how in the 90s and the 2000s it changed and shifted and now they courted all these African-American voters and all so it it's what you're talking about is back in that day what it was and I guess you're just like I don't know are you bad at detecting change and can you compare today's party you're probably not looking at today's party you're probably looking at the Richard Nixon party and just assuming that today's party is identical to it and I noticed that's a trend among among leftists because Hillary Clinton and Obama and all the idols of the left I can remember as a gay person when they were stly against gay marriage and they had to evolve on it and now they're like Heroes that ushered in the LGBT era and they've all evolved but Republicans can never evolve even though the polling shows that they too have demonstrate increasing support gay marriage they never get credit for their progress the Democrat the Democrats all clap each other on the back for progressing on gay marriage and evolving but the Republicans get painted in the same box that they've always been in at whatever point in history is going to make the worst case for them and they can never progress or be enlightened about an issue they're always these Neanderthal cretans that can't ever evolve like the left can on these social issues I've noticed that that Trend and so I think with him corner he thinks that the Republicans of today and Vos has said the same thing that the Republicans of today are direct descendants of the KKK and then he revised that there's an ideological through line which Wikipedia itself just contradicted so in their mind Democrats have evolved and progressed Through the Ages on all the social issues but Republicans don't ever re evolve and progress therefore the Republican party of today is identical to the southern Strate strategy party of Nixon [ __ ] you're just ignorant that's just dumb thinking I'm sorry but your thinking that's too far very poor here like maybe I should look into no it's not opposing Evolution it's conserving it's conserving the values in society that they deem as good and valuable and worth conserving that's what conservatism is it's not opposing it's conserving well I just told you what's CH just here I'll put the link Wikipedia does a has a little paragraphs on the change in the strategy and you can look at the numbers you can look at the uh in fact I think after the election of trump it was only like white women and I think college educated white men whose numbers shifted toward Trump every other demographic during 2020 Trump got increased support from compared to 2016 so after four years of trump more minorities broke for Trump in 2020 than they did in 2016 after having four years of him as president more of them voted for him except for white women in college educated white men I've heard that many times too so even the date like they don't I I don't think facts matter to MC because I want I think he wants to keep a certain narrative going this is confirmation bias this is what we talked about today my motherinlaw Works in a [ __ ] grocery store and she see a trump somebody wearing like a trump shirt or something to support a trump or something she'll fly off the Panhandle I go how do you still have a job like it's not like she works for like a small M and Pop Shop like she works for a big Corporation type you know she can wear her Trump shirt at work no no she don't wear her Trump shirt she flies off the handle and people that do wear it like support that [ __ ] like she's anti-trump all the way there might be rules on political speech in the workplace especially in larger companies I'm not sure I do know that they shot down Trump's Dei directive over some of that um see I called it I called it look Nixon and Trump are simp see how he's equating what the Republican leader of then to today they may be very similar people you know compare contrast you could do the VIN diagram and you could see similarities and then you could see all the differences so to think they're The Identical and that you can draw the same conclusions about today's Republicans as you could about Richard Nixon's Republicans it's just ignorance and it's willful I haven't tried to prove anything cuz I'm not the one making claims in fact I I helped you to prove your claim I I help I tried to get the statistics for the amount of Republicans who were Christian and white yeah that's it's narrative and and don't let the facts disturb that they they it's it's emotionally driven they want to believe something about these people they don't want to know these people as they actually are they don't want to know reality because it serves them I think psychologically maybe socially culturally to have this belief to have this narrative if if they were to readjust the belief to something more more aligned with actual reality they would have to shift their internal sense of themselves and probably their life like their their position in whatever little group so they they have interest in keeping these narratives going personal interest so I don't think they're concerned about truth I don't think they have their magnifying glass out looking to see what is the actual Republican party of today because he's he's not even he's talk he's bringing up Nixon and everything in his um discourse about it he's not even talking about the Republican party of today the way I would approach it is well speaking of facts the way I would approach it if I were to make this Cas is I would like bring some polls and say look the Republican party of today is majority Evangelical Christian Mainline Protestant white but then the conclusions you draw from it that that so that would be a fact according to the polling but the conclusion you drew was that whiteness whatever that is is fundamental to today's Republican party and then you started talking about Nixon's WR southern strategy which Wikipedia even said has changed in the90s and two they're not even doing the southern strategy anymore so you're very it's all very confusing I think you're um scatterbrain about this and and emotional reasoning and confirmation bias don't think you you can think you can think that I don't think that I'm I'm H I'm satisfied with the way I approach things because I'm I'm trying to make my case to rational people and that's the approach I would take you may be using a pathos approach where you paint this narrative and you try to reinforce it by what you cherry-pick and how you frame and slant and emphasize certain facts over others so we're we're maybe have different goals here and so for for your goal my Approach may be wrong but my goal is truth and so I stand by my Approach for that is superior to making up narratives about it not testing them or anything and not getting to know if they're actually true or not and using 30 40 50 years ago as my reference point of today yeah it did look at the section that says shifts in strategy 1990s and 2000 in the mid 90s the Republican Party made major attempts to court African-American voters it said it did not significantly increase but it doesn't support your fact that whiteness is fundamental to the Republican party and that it's a party full of white people that want to keep it white I mean let's face it aren't both parties predominately white in the long run so let's just face it I mean there is more white people in the the [ __ ] United States I think than uh any other so obviously all parties are going to be more white you could figure out what white is I don't know if the Democratic party is though except the Black Panther Party I mean obviously they're black because it's in the name oh so it's propaganda this is wikip that's that's what I described is you're just reframing is propaganda so you have to show me that what's being presented as accurate information is actually propaganda that's your burden to show you can't just wave at Wikipedia or say oh that's all propaganda yeah you have to show this this is a claim you're making you have to conv it's your job to convince me to adopt this claim as a belief so far I'm not I'm not convinced to do so well but but um yeah it's the problem is figure out who's white like the majority of America is white who is who where's the cut off line between the White and the non-white well well there there you go because then you got Hispanic nonwhite then you got white hispanic yeah got you know what I mean so like Jewish people are not even white anymore supposedly and Asians are white so and then they have white black people I mean I mean you do cuz I mean you got the you got the the intermingling the the uh the [ __ ] the word you got you got black dudes banging white women and white dudes banging black women so of course you got the of course you know you got lightskinned you got lightskinned [ __ ] banging porcelain skinned porcelain skinned [ __ ] women so you're going to get a light skinned baby that looks white like we watch me and the wife was watching the movie the other night I was like that's a black woman oh well uh uh what's her name the the princess there the [ __ ] over there in England there Megan magala or whatever the [ __ ] name is like I was watching Suits the whole time I never had a clue she was a [ __ ] colored woman I always thought she was just like a [ __ ] Greek woman or something someone or you know somebody with a dark complexion I never realized she was [ __ ] black till after she married Harry or Henry or whichever [ __ ] want she married yeah see Barry go water that was how long ago he he's I'm I'm talking about today he's talking about his history so we're already having two different conversations just like when Jack and I do the racism thing I'm talking about the real racism the racism racism and he's talking about this other thing that we're going to call bias we're not going to call it racism but when people are saying that person's racist you're racist white people are racist um people in the workplace are racist they're talking about bias they're not talking about they have Clan hoods in their closet and they can't wait to get home and secretly dream about lynching black people so to call it all racism is causing more confusion I think that once again are you interchanging bias with with with [ __ ] uh Prejudice though I call it Tri to me it's all tribalism and it happens in the animal kingdom even so I don't freak out about something that's just the normal part of Being Human the the the concerns I have with is when people act take specific acts just the fact that they may potentially have it in their brain is not enough for me to meet need a big billion doll industry to address it seems like Overkill and overreach what that still didn't answer my question though what was your question about if you're interchanging bias and and and Prejudice that's you went on on like something else like um well I was talking about bias so whether it's the same as Prejudice I don't know but that's that's my well like what's your what when you say bias so like you're talking about like bias based on someone's appearance or or where they come the background of where they come from like the neighborhood they grew up like that type [ __ ] because to me that's Prejudice pre Prejudice to me is when you make assumptions or judgments about people before you get to know that still be that' still be the same thing as having a biased opinion about somebody though maybe that's why this is a a very great area like how different is B is from Prejudice but what whatever however different those two words are I think both of them are very different than what people say when they mean racism that's a serious charge like accusing someone of being a racist to me is as serious as accusing someone of being a liar a thief a a murderer a criminal that's a serious charge accusing someone of being biased is way less Ser like that's a completely different type of accusation and so if all they mean is bias they should they should cool it with the racism talk like don't go around telling people they're racist when all you mean is bias well give me okay so give me an example of something that would be bias versus something that would be racist then well well races would be like like lynching and Jim Crow laws and school segregation and and no interracial marriage and stuff like that and we don't have any of that anymore so that kind of racism is for the most part gone we we've we've we've progressed that part but there's still other I mean there is other racism out there but it's more based on which plays more into the Prejudice part of it because more of a Prejudice type of environment that we live in I don't think that type is a big deal I think that type has gotten better and I don't think that type is near the big deal that people want us to think it is and they try to compare that type to the other type and and say there's a connection and if we don't worry about this type it could lead back to this other type and I don't think it will I'm not worried at all that we're going to suddenly start lynching black people again that that's just Preposterous to me no I don't think that's ever going to happen I mean I feel like if anything if we we got through 9/11 and the Muslim people that didn't happen to them so uh if that didn't happen I don't think we're going to go back in time it's not happening to the gay people it's not happening to the trans people despite how much they keep pushing the envelope I I like it so I think I think it's okay I this seems more like hysteria to me than anything else or maybe a grift but hysteria you know in a time of in time of conflict though hysteria does play into a role that's why you got the ethnic groups where you have them that's why like Central that's why central us has a high like Japanese population because that's where they sent that's where they sent them all during World War II you know because they figured if they were in the middle of the country less likely for them to be spies and you know to get her out of the country or like in Harem and in New York City and stuff you have you have the Italians you know where they are you have the Irish where they are and the blacks where they are because that's where where back way back in the day due to segregation and stuff that's where they were put because people forget the Irish and the Italians were equivalent to a black person back in the day they were they were treated like [ __ ] and were weren't like Irish and Italian people were not considered white when they first started coming over here and I think a lot of people forget that a lot of people forget that that's part of the reason why the five families started and all that because it was already a thing and then it just Lucky Luciano kind of organized it but that's not here or there but I'm just saying like they were they were treated like [ __ ] and garbage and and you have that's why you have the large populations in certain regions and tell me that I'm wrong no I mean I don't know that you are um Angel this might this might be a good way of conceiving it like objective racism and subjective racism because things like lynching that's not subjective that's pretty objective racism and so I think the objective racism we've pretty much moved past so what they're talking about now is this subjective racism and that's a very very fuzzy gray area and if you better convince me you have the expertise to be in that part of my psyche before you start poking around in there my subjectivity as an American that is my autonomy my subjectivity is mine it it's not subject to you it's not accountable to you you don't get to make claims about it and accuse it of things and then determine that that's what it is that's that you're you're treading into my territory where I get to self-determine hey Dom what's up racism isn't okay this is helping too this is good this is good stuff in my my definition of racism is an act it's an act someone has to take a belief in the mind you could have racist beliefs but racism requires an act you can only evaluate the the act or the behavior so that's again they're they're wanting to move from the objective World things that you can actually identify as as as definitively racist to the inner subjective world of beliefs and thoughts and now objective acts are not enough to qualifies racism it's thought policing your your mind now things and contents of your mind can be racism see you're you're you're into that Dei [ __ ] and your your that psych [ __ ] too much you got to think about it like you if you got a a [ __ ] a redneck [ __ ] out there that that is right be like I hate them damn them damn D skid Coons you know what I mean like like he's gonna and talks about how he wants to un alive them all the time you know what I mean that's that's like that but they do though only the FR it's the same people that talk about lizard people under like that's about how serious you don't think they exist but trust me they exist the [ __ ] I'm I'm not saying they don't they don't exist but they don't exist in the numbers that people are panicking they don't exist the numbers like what some people but they do exist if I went to south Louisiana right now where I am from I would have to search really I would have to take days maybe weeks to find one of those people and I may not even find one if you gave me like go to Louisiana for two weeks and try to find one of these people I may not even come back with one that's how rare I think they are now people that sit around talking about how much they hate black people and and want to destroy black people I I just don't think that's a thing anymore except for in fren in very extreme fren circles I mean you think about it when covid had happened it was all it was all it was all Asian hate you know what I mean the Asian crime went up so I mean it all it it all goes to hysteria and whatever is going on at the time now now with this war going on with with Palestine and Israel and all that it's the Jew the Jewish hate crime levels are going up like it's always there's always something going up when George Floyd did that [ __ ] and let's be real I mean the cops [ __ ] up by pulling him out of the [ __ ] vehicle but if he would have acted like a normal human human being instead of like a jackass you know I don't know I watched the body C foot body cam footage and I came away with a completely different understanding of what happened that day I mean they I think they [ __ ] up by pulling him because they had him in the V vcle he was acting the fo they pulled him the [ __ ] back out and then the cop [ __ ] kept his knee on his throat too long I mean when somebody saying you can't breathe you got to take it you got to take some credibility that's not what killed him well no the body Camp footage shows what led up to all that look Tim it's definitely what it did not look like to me is a white cops saying oh here's a black man here's my chance to kill a black man did not look like that and that's the narrative that was put out that got the whole country in flame but the the bottom line and the M of the story is if he wasn't acting like a [ __ ] jackass and trying to pass off a fake $20 bill and didn't have the [ __ ] Asian or or the [ __ ] Indian fell chasing the [ __ ] out of the store and call the cops on him you know what I mean and then he would have acted like a normal individual and you know what I mean it it would have played I don't think it would have happened the way it happened now they [ __ ] up by once they put him in the cruiser and shut them doors they should never have opened them doors back up and pulled him out for any reason at all unless he pass the [ __ ] out hey Ley um Ley real quick I gotta go run and do something real quick I'm gonna keep going because it's good I'm gonna let you just talk and get it out and then I'm going to try to come right back but I mean that's that's that's how I how I feel about the George Floyd situation it's sad that the Man passed away because the cops did [ __ ] up and broke protocol but with the same sense is if he didn't act like a [ __ ] Reta then he would still be here and that's my belief so and then we clinched on to that as a cause because at the time that's what American needed we needed a we needed a cause to clinch on too and that's why you had all these white B these all these white [ __ ] carens out their March up and down that never even had a black friend before saying black lives medal that don't even understand what the struggle is never even been in a [ __ ] Hood but yet they they wanted to March down the [ __ ] Street and that's what's wrong with his damn country it's too many of damn snowflakes out there that get butt hurt when somebody says something about him and if they don't like it you just need to get over it and move the [ __ ] on with your day unless it really really influences you that much but if somebody says a comment to you and they don't have any influence in your everyday life just keep on moving unless they insult your [ __ ] kid or your wife or [ __ ] and they're [ __ ] being disrespectful then then sock it to them [ __ ] let him have it give them a rain or [ __ ] Mayhem but other than that just Just Let It Go people let it [ __ ] go if you don't like a certain color [ __ ] skin walk the [ __ ] away get the [ __ ] over it you live in [ __ ] America where it's a [ __ ] Blended Society you got to get used to it if you if you're not happy with your position in life go to school get smarter read a [ __ ] book do something change your life get off of [ __ ] YouTube go read your kid a bedtime story do something connect with an old girlfriend boyfriend a kid that you haven't talked to a mother an auntie an uncle a [ __ ] nephew you were a niece [ __ ] find a soldier overseas that needs a [ __ ] pen pal right to them do something productive and be a you know just do something [ __ ] am I Jewish no I'm not Jewish [ __ ] man I I I'm still confused by whether or not Jewish is a [ __ ] religion belief or it's a [ __ ] culture if it's a race what the hell is it like you cuz I don't know any Jewish person I ever met was looked white to me so just asking yeah exactly whatever the situation needs to be is what the situation is at that time right now it's [ __ ] let's think about this we've had eight years of a Witch Hunt for Trump regardless of the man has done it or not it's been eight years of them trying to dig up dirt on him and [ __ ] trying to make something stick it's like [ __ ] John gy the Teflon Dawn they kept throwing [ __ ] at him eventually they found something that would [ __ ] stick it's what's gonna happen with Trump eventually somebody will open the [ __ ] mouth and let some dirty secret out and unfortunately he's going to get buried but then you got Cala Harris that was a proud Indian woman when she ran for whatever the [ __ ] she was before she you going now now you and now she's a black proud black woman that's running as [ __ ] vice president what is it are you a proud Indian woman or a proud black woman [ __ ] pick one side don't don't don't deflect the other side when the other side matters more like whichever one you think's going to get you the more rotes don't play on the pity party because you don't have rest fool camar we know we see through you we want to see your birth certificate too oh Lord do you have a channel well probably so I I think you're I think I could probably trust you yeah take take care Kane thanks for stopping by I mean I'm not stupid I know racism it it it exist but I feel my personal biased Prejudice whichever word you want to [ __ ] throw in there it still plays a role into it because I mean let's be real if you come you got a job for dress for a job interview so if you got let's let's let just play a scenario you got five dudes you got two white dudes you got two black dudes you got the Asian you got the two white dudes are dressed in a polo you got one dude one of the black guys that's dressed in a [ __ ] $50 suit and you got the other one dressed in [ __ ] baggy ass pants and then you got the little Asian dude over here that's dressed appropriately for the job guess what he's getting the job you know what I mean based because he's dressed for the job in view if you overdress or underdress you're going to get [ __ ] I guess it depends on the job but most people I know that hire and most um workplaces I've been that we've had to hire and I've got to see part of the process and participated in some of it it mostly goes by qualifications like what's this person's skill set their background and and if if if after that there's like multiple candidates that we still can't choose between then we start looking at other factors but very very rarely have a seen a hiring decision come down to oh this guy's black this guy's Asian oh I'll take the Asian no no I didn't mean it like that I just was giving it as an example you know what I mean two the exent to that kind of stuff fact how they're dressed but that could be a but even though the Asian dude might not be as qualified as what one of the other two dudes are or four Dudes are you know I think he still get it on dress not qualification I think if he if he had had you know he was how do I put this if he was confident in his job and showed potential for growth and he was dressed appropriately yes because I was cuz when I went to school and I took my my technical communication class that was one thing that the instructor that she she was very big on was the way that when you went to an interview the way you dressed that you know if you're dressing for a construction job you're not going in a in a in a suit and tie you're going you're probably going to go in a nice nice shirt maybe with a tie but you're not going with like a suit and tie you know what I mean you're going to go maybe jeans and a work boots and a decent shirt versus if you're going to be a doctor you're going to go [ __ ] dressed right to the hill looking just as pristine hair done glasses down if you wear glass you you know what I mean you dress for the job you're going for what if you um showed up in a trump t-shirt and the black guy showed up in a in a nice dress shirt and a tie you think he he'd get the job what now what if you showed up in a trump t-shirt and the black guy showed up in a in a nice shirt with a tie would he get the job I mean white Trump supporter get it well I guess in that instance it goes to there's a lot of other variables Jeff there's a lot of other barbles in there because if you get somebody like my mother-in-law that's a die anti- Trump fan right uh you're automatically not getting the job the black guys getting the job but then if you're a ra a republican racist then the Trump fans getting the job but once again though I guess so if they're both qualified if they're both qualified you're going to go with the one that's dressed better most people that care about their business try to hire the most qu qualified competent employees they don't want to have to keep replacing employees they don't want employees they going to damage their business that's more important to them than what somebody's skin color is and and I can't believe in 2024 people think that there are large large numbers of Americans prioritizing skin color on over all of these other more important factors just on an economic business level they're more important now I did have this conversation before with somebody about as far as I personally feel like if you have a will there's a way somehow some way if you have determination you can get yourself out of a situation there's many many people that's done it from all walks of life you know and all skin colors all all [ __ ] races all all religion all all different languages countries what however you want to [ __ ] put it they've all the stoys across the globe of people that's made it so these people that say well I grew up here or I grew up in poverty so there's plenty of other people that are successful that grew up in poverty that had the determination and that that drive to get themselves out of it and that's all it takes if you it only takes inspiring one person and showing that one person what you have and it could change your whole entire world that's why I tell people and my kids when you're in public you should always be on your best behavior because you never know who you're going to run into or who that might be your future boss like you you never know you know do they um do they listen well most of the time most of the time they do I mean they do listen I get I'm fortunate I get good kids I got one that's going actually tomorrow she's going to be a freshman in high school tomorrow oh wow officially school starts tomorrow so she's at the fair she's at the last night of the fair she still have the fair fair so I'm waiting for him to get the [ __ ] home because I'd already be in bed if she wasn't home oh he waiting up for her yeah yeah although I don't have to go on the boat tomorrow for some reason he changed his mind oh so we're GNA go Wednesday Wednesday Thursday I guess oh well [ __ ] it well you good holiday I take C I'll take another day off well we're almost at 7 hours tennessy 6 foot at 15 Chuck how was your labor day did you do anything fun kick the content no it just kind of been a we've been talking for a while we're just breathing for a second yeah I can I just it's easier when there's P panelist I know I'm boring I'm sorry no not no not at all I love I love convers I'm a boring individual no I I don't think you're boring at all I got I got I I got Mike he ran away well didn't run away I got Mike booted from panel I feel bad [ __ ] Mike got himself booted from panel Mike the old Italian cheese Basil Pizza man I'm sorry see that that might have got you booted y'all throw those little Jabs what I but I do it out of fun how was that malicious and I know but here's like when there's that kind of hostility between two people I don't know well the h how much like where that fun line is where do you where's the hostil where is the hostility in my voice no I'm not talking about in your voice I'm talking about when you and Mike were on and youall had that little breakdown I thought y'all both admitted that there was a history there like there was legitimate well I mean there is legitimate history that's what I'm talking about it shows even if you think you're on a panel and you don't and you think you're having everyone else can see that there's motion between you and Mike well look my thing with Mike is is I will have a conversation with Mike as long as he doesn't start trying to like I I just know what Mike was trying to do like and I was trying to and said I was stopping him before he was do before he did it if that makes sense like he was trying to do something on purpose who him like Mike I just know where the conversation was going like because I know what was I know the video that's been dropped of Mike so I know with him by him saying that statement where the conversation was and I don't I don't mind that you Ste in because I don't care about any of that I I don't well I know you don't care about it but Mike was trying to bring it was Mike Segway into bringing it up and to bring you know what I mean like because he knows you will try to keep it PG13 and not let it go go to [ __ ] IR ra and you know what I mean like you'll keep it you'll keep it pretty pretty constrained and not let it get off the handle so he knows by him saying that statement he could try to make himself look better and clear up some misconception of these videos going around when when and you know what I mean I'm just trying to I guess I just didn't want him to use your platform that way because I know what he was trying to do and I apologize it went that way but I wasn't trying to be a dick I was just trying to stop the conversation before it started so it didn't go off the handle does um anybody know Late Night with M Mr P late night Mike oh I know Mike we got to play some entrance music for him that's his music for people he likes playing entrance but you gotta play entrance music I don't know if I I have the streamyard music whatever well whatever whatever you but are you vouching for him is he um we Mike we just we have a troll problems we just like making sure you're not going to pour them you know Shameless Shameless yeah it's his it's her wife I mean her her husband oh okay yeah I'll bring you on That's Mike P that's Mr P me find let me find some music because he would do 12 hours streams and go to zand on him so that's Mr Z because he like this is Mr Z he calls himself Mr P yeah but he like to be Mr Z oh well now he's P hello Mr P hey what's up man what's going on Mike what's up bro how are you ley's in the building you can't miss that accent what do you mean Mr P's is in the building Mr your mayor like you know Massachusetts uh you know the way you do your my friend used to call it know who that is there's only one Manor I know that streams out here like that you know mayor well you know hey well hope is all well D I still catch your videos um Jeff I was just coming up just to uh I wasn't even trying to come up on stage I just noticed I was blocked for some reason somebody pre-blocked on my channel like in the chat yeah yeah I like I I this is my first time seeing you so let me check it out I don't it's my first time even being here so I'm not sure what the what happened but to just make you aware of it okay let me check that out we also have somebody called end time teacher end time teachers anybody know end time that's uh he's a religious guy he's he's going to want to tell you about the end times oh okay no we we'll keep it with it just us for now what's going on yeah no I like the current times I'm not looking for the end times not not today anyway we also have Jack Jackson full robotic form anybody know him Jack Jackson that sounds very robotic form is his name put up a banner here's the other thing Jeff if you get like a crowd of people that all show up at the same time with their camera on they all run together and they just wait until the right moment that's what's happening then because that's been happening a couple of times today yeah all right I'm just gonna we'll just leave it at us for now I went through it it does happen but but it does happen yeah it sound like you were winding down Jeff I wasn't trying to uh you uh no we're this was going to be an all day stream so I I can wind down or I can keep going I kind of just go with whatever the Energy's doing oh so oh you're doing uh have you done 24 hours a couple times no I stop at 12 just because of the streamyard thing yeah yeah it's part of the reason I'm Mr Z is I actually went the full like 24 a couple times and yeah that's my goal is to eventually have a 24hour stream with like a team of people to keep it going see you can do 24 hours but it just won't save to YouTube right right well that's kind of a big deal though well I mean it will I feel like it will save 12 hours of the first it does you have to you have to start it again after 12s so you can get like two streams a day out of it right if you yeah well if you want to save the other half yeah yeah we did one it was like 23 hours and I didn't know that and then we went to go grab it and it just YouTube just kind of kept spinning and was like nope and nobody nobody recorded I think I think we had one person recorded it to break up like portions of it but yeah it was it was a good stream I was pretty upset about it not going to lie but I hear you're doing kind of a similar thing Jeff uh get some politics I hear kind of coming out of it it my my wife listens to you all the time I can hear it coming through her phone so I I tend to like just listen in on some of the stuff you're doing it sounds pretty good oh well thanks for checking us out um full robotic for I are all you have to do is flash your camera and convince me you're not a troll but now I'm definitely not motivated to let you on so this is definitely not the way to get on said that ET is a real person though they said he is but that he's just up here to like talk tell us about the end times that's not the conversation I want to have yeah I've had him up he's he's not disrespectful but it's a religious conversation yeah he's he's here to use this platform for his message and his agenda I want to have a conversation between people that I want to talk about this like one thing yeah you were saying something about uh somebody get like putting something in into law or I don't know what you were saying it was right before I came up it was a something about Kamala actually I don't know what you guys remember what you're talking about was it Ley cuz that stepped away for a little while talking mik I was on a rant oh okay I was on a main r oh [ __ ] is Maine still pretty red or what well yeah I mean it all depends like jonesport here is more Republican but then you you drive across the bridge to the island and it's it's Democrat so it's it's kind of 5050 around here yeah oh yeah yeah it's it's funny because uh i' I've seen a lot of people getting some heated debate yeah it's crazy how I mean the goal is to divide us so uh and they're doing that pretty well we're in times history repeats itself and it's just a matter of time before before we have another Abraham Lincoln type uh thing on our hands where the union Shrine succeed I was think we're just going to turn into the UK and kind of just keep going what I was thinking you in the back if you can flash your camera so I can see that you're a person I I don't know if you're fully connected yet either oh yeah Mike you don't have an avatar buddy what Lord have mercy I can't deal with this hold on I may uh I'm actually gonna come up on the app so it this doesn't do that Jeff I apologize the app see I have issues with the app no no no the app's way more stable at least for me I can it won't won't mess it up with the stupid freaking Avatar see when I use the app like Jeff freeze is in horrible positions yeah every people a lot of people complain about the app they say it's easier to do it through the browser I mean the only thing I like about the app is the fact fact I can run backgrounds on them on it but other than that I don't see no real benefit to it full robotic form you have to show yourself on camera I didn't see you on camera it look it looked like you weren't fully connecting so it might be a connection issue but I have to see that you're a real person you don't have to stay on camera on the stream but I at least have to verify that you're not of the trolls that come here and try to impersonate other names you're really trying hard here huh I'm doing what I can no not not about you them it is what it is yeah I don't I don't mind if you come up robot I just need you to flash your cam in the back um made it this far man just click the camera for two seconds come on um I don't I need to see like a fa I need to see you I need to see a fa okay here we go all right we're going to try this yeah I'm GNA do the solo thing all right I'm bringing you on robot let's see don't porn bomb me what's up no it does say I'm having some connection issues so I don't know oh okay yeah you're coming in a little robot oh wait no no I recognize that Roy that yeah get rid of him get rid well I I'll give him a chance I'll give him a chance you're not gonna porn bomb me right all right I think he's having connection issues no no I swear uh who the [ __ ] maybe it was yours Mr P one of the last panels that was on with you when it happened to you I'm almost sure that was the same [ __ ] dude I'm almost positive what happened sound kind of looked like him and sounded kind of like him he played all kind of like that there's a whole what did he doy what did he do [ __ ] whose panel was it then if it wasn't you it was somebody come on like that doing the connection issu connection issues building up the trust slowly and then boom it was it was yeah sneaky all right well I'm out of here anyways my kids's home so I'm getting okay take care Ley good chatting um I don't know how I don't know how it's obvious to you cuz we haven't ruled out connection issue but I don't want to have you on now you you seem pretty hostile at this point to whatever we're doing so you don't see Good Vibes oh I'm assuming you're talking to the oh no yeah not you uh robot robotic form whoever's trying to come up he's not doing a good job of persuading me so what what's your connection to all this to the where do you fit in the panel verse so my um my wife is kind of like doing this all the time oh right they uh who did they say is it Shameless yeah you got it yeah I think she's been up before yeah no she's cool um basically I just hear it in the background whatever I used to basically do it for like six months or something like that I was pretty consistent with it oh doing like discussion you know discussion like a lot of like music a lot of videos editing stuff like that and then uh just people just started getting crazy with like you know putting your personal info out there doing just whatever they can just to be horrible people so I just was like hey just take a break I got a full-time job anyways now oh okay it's kind of back down but I've been listening to your stuff a little bit and it's uh it's pretty good man you're kind of doing what I was trying to do just like it seems like you got a good personality for it you know uh yeah we're trying to like get a little network of streamers that are doing this similar format and you know create some kind of little shared audience or network or community no I think I heard you speak to Mike one day and it was like you're letting him up but you weren't letting him like kind of over control the conversation you know it's like one of those like hey we don't need to talk about Mike all the time you know what I mean you just kind of kept rolling you know it's good you you're not you're not telling them like you know don't come back but you're like bro like we got to get out of like you know mic land here for five minutes yeah I I don't have an issue with like I we have I don't either pretty decent conversations every time he comes up it's it's with all of the the the it's the around everybody else that kind of goes yeah and then one or the other will start setting setting it off exactly and I mean Mike Mike pretty much if you don't provoke him he might see some some stuff that's like not agreeable to a lot of people whatever but like for the most part he's not going to start a fight out of nowhere it usually comes down till like something you know comes out of his mouth and someone doesn't like that or they have a you know a image in their mind of what's going to happen and then it just escalates from there yeah it's a bunch of other stuff that he said or did on all these other panels that I don't care about I I this is not the Mike channel so all that lore I don't I don't have the bandwidth for all of it here I don't care about it so y'all don't have to keep bringing it up all the time constantly it's it's not relevant to anything I'm doing here it's just noise it's not going to make me I I I treat Mike by how he's is behaving me in front of me at any given moment none of this background stuff is going to affect how I evaluate Mike yeah so it's funny you say that because I that's what I was basically doing with most people you'd have somebody come over and then it' be like four people behind them like do you know what she did six years ago and do you know what you know what pace she had and do you know that she was caught like doing this and that and I'm like yeah it seems like bu of care like Caren gossip but it's what sabotage saying right here I think some people feel a duty like it's a moral duty to constantly be a neon sign pointing at the per it's like The Scarlet Letter this is these people are trying to be Mike Scarlet Letter so I think there to an extent that that is correct you know I think when it comes to like like we got a lot of people in these communities that are like you know sex offenders that are either not registered or like you know maybe they haven't been found to do anything yet like they're they're Predators like there there's definitely some folks that you know I think that you need to get them out um but like uh let's see I don't know supporting some guy that was you know running a cult you know 15 20 years ago it turned out that was not the thing to do I'm not going to crucify you for 10 years over with that you know I think after you spend a year you get over it you move on like I'm not going to follow you around YouTube and tell everybody about what you've done every time you try to get to know somebody else I'm sorry like like there's there's a there's a difference there there's like you know uh a hazard versus just you know big [ __ ] dumb mistakes and uh my point was is that I would just tell listen I like like you I'm like bro I don't give a [ __ ] what you've done like I'm gonna and I even baptize people as a joke but like you know you're you're you're washing away your sins you're starting from scratch today you know how you get treated is how you you you know you are here that's it I don't give two shits what you did at another place now we find out you you know you touched the kid or you get some child porn or rape somebody something yeah no you're out you're out of course no questions asked but I am not going to beat you over the head because you had a bad moment you know seven years ago nobody else wants to let it go sorry you know oops Yeah it's it's some kind of mania um I don't I don't understand it and and it it's bringing out the word first impulses to some of these people too they're like getting sadistic pleasure out of tormenting this guy there is and it's funny because one of the reasons I wanted to I was going to just stay in the chat but one of the reasons I wanted to come up was I noticed the uh how do I put this the cast of characters that come in are all very similar and they kind of all made their way in almost in a similar timing as when when I they met me you know start off with certain people people whatever and I just it was hilarious it's like I I listened in one day and it was like you had all you had like five of these people here and every single one of them were like thrown off the vibe or they were yelling at each other yeah it gets that yeah it can get like that sometimes if it's all in the right combination of people um that you have on I think you're breaking up a little bit it sounds like you're coming in from a distance sabotage poor unsuspecting women should not come on my panel this is not an environment for poor unsuspecting women so if they wander in here by mistake then they're at their own risk yeah poor unsuspecting woman I don't think should be on live internet either yeah I'm my mission here is not to look out for protect poor unsuspected women if they have to if they happen to wander here and I feel like they're over the head of to I might redirect them to some other panel and let them know what kind of place they're in but I'm don't go out of my way to babysit or protect grown it hey Spike yeah I'd recommend a uh you know maybe some popcorn and some true crime on the of your couch that's my uh recommendation Spike what's up buddy D this is the coolest guy on YouTube right here je the coolest guy what's up dude how are you not too bad long time no see bro yeah man just working uh got a full-time job so I just been [ __ ] cranking nice you work today just want to let flaky know that I've had two coffees today no energy drink in the chat oh hi she's been coffee trolling me for three days I haven't had coffee since like th I don't doubt it I don't doubt it I your dud everything good did you say my health yeah how you feel everything good pretty good yeah I swear it's a typo Mike but somebody brought it to my attention that you said Spike sucks D for money and I swear you were talking about somebody else it was I might have been talking about you I might have just been being sarcastic about something I I think we I think I remember it was like something uh I think they were making like a gay joke about you and then I threw that out there and then it got turned to me sucking D for money and then just you know how it goes just spirals out of control no yeah somebody sent me a screen like a phone whatever a screen grab oh did they did they oh no just letting me know and I'm like no Mike and I are cool you must been like a joke or a typo or something exactly I know you I know you suck dick for free I know you don't do it for money how much we talking yeah just kidding don't clip it don't clip it people yeah this is this is one of the reasons I stay away spike is you know this is how the [ __ ] goes it's like little clips and photos and crops and you know a little chattering and you know yeah it wasn't even a mic hater they were just letting me know like that was typed because you weren't you didn't say it it was just a typed thing in the chat I thought and response was he must have meant Mike no I I I was actually meaning you I was trying to like talk to you and get your attention but I think you were on your way out so it's kind of like it was like basically like a like I said it and then you already pieced out yeah you're right no you're right I was streaming at the time so I wasn't in the chat I just popped in real quick right exactly yeah yeah so uh and then like it just like didn't land I was like oops all right well that's out there oh well but no I mean uh Spike you know you're the man bro I got no issues with you ever you know and when we do we we work it out man so yeah I don't think actually we've ever had a problem no but it's funny because one thing you didn't mention how you I know you said you kind of wanted to do something similar to what Jeff has been doing and I get that and that's actually before you started streaming even though go went very unsuccessfully that's kind of what I was doing and that's kind of what brought a lot of uh Nevada hate towards me was because like they don't want some people just don't want people getting like getting along [ __ ] gooy Yeah well yeah that's how it goes here man it's like uh you know misery loves company kind of deal is the the expression but [ __ ] him man I don't care oh you know what I'm sorry this is not my channel I shouldn't be swearing saying stuff but I'm sorry it's for my bad Jeff oh what's going on are you putting my channel in Jeopardy yeah I'm using adult language and you know what kind of language adult language just like you know have words and stuff like that not yo yo my audio good oh my goodness Tommy D is in the house let's go salute guys what is up what up tried to come up earlier but uh got caught up it's all good Jeff this guy right here Tommy D and Spike this is like this is quality here man yeah they they come up a lot they're these are your guys kind of regulars now nice good I'm just trying to H myself for a permanent wrench Spike wants his wrench yeah he wants his wrench clout I would have a problem giv spike a wrench yeah now I feel like I need to save them for to rent them out no if you do it don't do it today just we'll do it on oh figure it out so there's a uh a space in the in the back where you can put people in different categories you put them in obviously like you know oh I'm I'm this is news to me is Mike srone a predator is that the issue because this is the first time anyone's made it this explicit he's not a predator he's what is sabotage she's accusing a guy of being a predator sabotage which mic though no I know SA well but I don't consider Mike serona well I I'm assuming it's Mike she's talking about somebody else that I don't know that person yeah so I'm Mr P whatever but uh when people say Mike I think they're talking about sonone usually oh you're also Mike yeah oh Mike P oh my bad yeah I was calling Mr P Mike yeah yeah no I mean I don't know what he does in his real life so I can't attest to like anything that but as far as online goes I don't see him as a PR so wait she's saying people keep Mike's name in their mouth cuz he's a predator and this is this is a this is not the narrative that I've been hearing so far it's for all these other reasons he's a master troll is this relational aggression or what is she up to here I don't know why because now Mike is a predator it's all these people are virtuous people going around trying to stop a predator but this is the first time I have heard that accusation like people have brought that up against Mike and that that's the reason that they're here so the story keeps changing why people are here yeah well I don't consider Mike a predator he likes to troll sometimes but you know what a lot of times it's reactionary and he goes low and people catch him in you know yeah but so does everyone else they go low with him exactly like so he's not a predator to me not at all well there's this person named sabotage that's going around saying that Mike Cerrone is a predator and that is the reason that all these people are coming to my channel trying to warn me things and this is a new one so people think he's and I'm very sensitive to having my reality manipulated being Li to so I I when I feel like a game is a foot my my S my alerts go off and I get like this this is this is strange to me that all of a sudden he's a predator and that's the reason people are here do your antlers tingle when you're they're tingling right now I can't speak for other people why they're here honestly well this person's trying to I don't think Mike's a predator I think he uh you know he's a controversial guy that you know there's plenty of uh content on him you know you like him or you hate him it is what it is are there other topics we can talk about besides Mike he's not even on the show when he's on the show I know but he's not a predator let's not say that well sabotage says otherwise so just be aware that that's being put out there I don't know sabotage I don't know what's up with you maybe she's just sabotaging she's sabotaging right now we'll Circle back anyway so Labor Day shout out to the labor movement did you U barbecue or do anything fun did I had burgers and dogs pick my boys up early from their moms and then we had burgers and dogs and chicken and stuff on the grill so it was nice my sister came over it was nice so you did it right did it right nice good for you we've been watching the US Open all the tennis is on TV I like tennis tennis is pretty good that's good they you got spend time with the family dude that's what's most important oh yeah it's most important yeah internet why aren't these women taking responsibility to protect themselves um I prays on them how how is he praying on vul vulnerable women like innocent poor victimized women what's a vulnerable woman a woman that's too stupid not to be prayed up on on the internet all what is a vulnerable woman talking about because he went on that therapist and said he was a whatever that so whatever happened on this therapist conversation has now been built up into the narrative that Mike is a Predator who prays on vulnerable women these people are sick yeah sabotage you're a sick person I would suggest using the block button if you actually feel that you saw something that upset you and now you've built it your re you and wette both your reaction to whatever you perceive for Mike is so out of proportion to anything Mike said or did that you now look like the aggressor and the nut not Mike Jesse Jeff's Jeff's got a read on the situation I feel like you know I don't know long if he's been here but he's uh he's got a good uh good read on on the and I was listening earlier that whole comment with the FBI he was just giving his opinion on something you know he wasn't even Mike just says [ __ ] dude he's he's here for like his own entertainment and you know it's just it is what it is it's I've gotten into it with Mike before I have he gets mad he says some [ __ ] whatever and then he calms down but like for the most part if you don't I think what sabotage is saying right now is worse than what Mike says about people I agree I don't like people throwing around words like that and I think I think sabotage and Wombat to me I have less esteem and respect for than I do for Mike Cerone because of of of the level that they they're the ones that have escalated their response they had some subjective response to Something Mike said to them or the something they saw him do on stream and I've seen this happen in our corner the panel verse too where some little tiny thing will happen and then next thing you know somebody's on this war to destroy somebody because of their subjective experience of it they get triggered and they can't let it go yeah yeah this looks like mental health this looks like Health it's the internet this is somebody that you're you don't live near you know um he's they're not in our lives you know you do have to let it go I believe it's healthy for yeah I don't think it's healthy to obsess and in fact we're we're going to let this topic go and I'm going to um try to not pay attention to sabotage and I'll M if I need to there you go well the the whole thing with labor day was supposed to celebrate the labor movement so do you guys think labors labor unions are a good thing for America at this time I know they were in the past but at this present time well I'm not there's a lot of flack on unions I I don't see why uh it's a bad thing to have or organization back its you know employees make sure they get paid well and you know taken care of I know people don't like you know unions because they cost more and they're it's harder to you know uh hire people and do all stuff but at the end of the day like when unions were strong people's incomes were good and they were stable and I don't think unions are a bad thing I agree I think people worry about corruption and things like that political influence political influence too political influence and Corruption huh well guess what the unions have uh probably the least uh issue when it comes to corruption you know in political movement is let's start with the let's start with the politicians first you know but you're right the swamp has to get cleared and the the swamp's filled up again at this time at this time I I believe the swamp is is it's pretty full dude it's lit right now dude they are just like going nuts they're doing they're pulling out all the stops dude it's getting wild man now now K is running and it's like oh man dude she scares the [ __ ] out of she does she scares scary she told us not to worship Christmas how dare we worship Christmas like what her her dude listen to this her her VP apparently uh was shooting people with paintballs that weren't wearing their masks and he actually had an 800 he would call you could rat out your neighbor if they weren't wearing their mask it's the kind of lunatics that are yeah get out of here dude the people that even like don't know that stuff or want to you know vote for these people you can't tell me if you look at our record that it makes any sense to have around around the country you out of your mind a prosecutor and a and a guy that wants to report you for not wearing your mask no thanks get out of here with that no didn't even do anything like they didn't even mitigate that dude you want to wear a mask you wear a mask you don't whatever that's fine you're not on your neighbors for not wearing a mask what the [ __ ] is that that's that's like that's like China dude it's weird yeah like report your neighbors to the government because yeah it's a communist state oh my neighbor not wearing the mask and then they go it's like that's like Nazi you know it's like Hitler you know yeah it's crazy people make compar I was wearing a mask a year after everybody else stopped because I just like playing ninja dude sometimes it's great you just go to the bank with one on you know and it's like yeah it was crazy going to Banks right with a mas and you just kind of reach slowly into like behind your pull out your there's no communication plus I'm somewhat of a big dude so I'd be wearing like my beanie and a mask and like into my pocket during winter time with my big coat on people looked at me like I was crazy oh there was so much controversy over the masks like so many different arguments Karens Pelosi walking out of the the barber shop without one uh videos you know like all kinds of different crap with the mask was wild God Bless the people that drive by themselves even today and put the mask gone as they're behind the wheel by themselves by themselves no I don't mean to play the other side of this but I was one of those guys ones and somebody came I was wearing a mask like after I left the store gas station whatever and I was driving with my mask on and some lady pulled up to me laughing at me and I'm like wait a sec I'm just going one more corner and I have to go into this other store I don't want to take this mask off and buckle because it was one of those Buckle masks now you have to expain to a random lady who pulls up on the side know I became the weirdo I became the weirdo driving oh that's crazy what you talking about a buckle mask what the hell you wearing one of g95 masks it wasn't one of those intense ones but it had a little snap I bought on Amazon a little snap on it I don't want to take it off I'm wearing my hat oh Lord but it was like one block and I became the guy that everybody's putting on Instagram like look at this Weir Drive the poster boy for the dude that [ __ ] drives around by himself Mas the gas mask dude just went a full on like the gas mask funny is that I did have a gas mask before Co even hit because I used to Beatboxing one on stage like one of those yeah used be a weirdo pretty cool and I had one but I didn't wear it during Co but I had one I was going to but I thought no I'm not Stormtrooper walking around with this thing on you beat box with a gas mask on so people wouldn't be able to see like your face and stuff during it oh only it's as a trick as an a normally beat box so you can see but I put on a I used to mic up my beat my my my mask so create a little of a Reverb effect oh I see really okay that's wild same idea as that like stupid guitar thing where you like breathe into the mic into a tube and it's like w w wow wow sort of yeah I never did that but I always wanted to but yeah sort of like that yeah with a digyo same thing I used to mic up a diger do and beatbox do that thing do you have um tracks um I have a few of tracks SP [ __ ] came on stage looking like slip knot okay I'm just messing around I love slip do by the way I do love slip I love all that music he's a lowkey genius though if you don't know he's got some great music oh yeah yeah does have good music's very humble though so we won't talk about it check out his channel who who is that Spike yeah throw it in I used to flex a lot more I found these gitos nice so cool he he didn't you did you rap with the guy that rapped against Eminem before Eminem became famous or you knew him or something like that juice yeah we were in the same band as a 16year old yeah we oh okay in fact I'm working on a I remember you tell me wasn't I on panel with you when uh I was talking to him it's been many years but we're working on a song together right now mixtape really nice that's dope bro yeah I don't know if you're familiar with rascas but I did a track with rascas last month nice I don't know rascas I know juice though yeah rascas was made Popular by battling Chino XL and Tupac a Chino XL F You2 that was a great song bro my bad I love that song T got mad with Chino yeah so weird because Chino was like an underground like nothing very significant but I guess that's how you get your name and lights he put him in there man he put him in there well he was New York right wasn't it is Chino from New York or where's chino from I think he's originally from New York but he became a California Guy where okay around the same era as him in fact people used to think I was Chino XO because we wrapped similarly about New York rappers in that song Biggy and yeah that was crazy when he dropped that was like the first W that wasn't the first discs because there was disses before that like no Vaseline but that was that sure shook the ground when he dropped that it's funny because I well I rebelled against hip-hop as a youngster for a minute and I was uh working with and a lot of people thought I was even Rage Against the Machine for a minute really I love Rage Against the Machine the musicians I was working with were amazing so that's why they thought maybe I was doing that [ __ ] but Tom mlla is amazing Zach Deo is amazing they're both awesome the band's awesome yeah I love rage I love panta I love Texas metal like panta when panta came out was oh was amazing oh is panta Texas yeah they're from Texas Benny Paul and d bag battle you know they're actually touring now but they're touring without the Abid Brothers which is kind of you know it's it's like they they're the founders they were the band and it's like it's like Phil ambo and Rex with these two other guys and it's just a you know it's cool that do it though I guess all the the bands are doing shows now all the old bands L biscuit and corn cor's Toren Biscuit's been touring Biscuit's been touring yo Cory Feldman's opening up for him and he's making a ass out of himself Cory what's up with Cory Feldman bro what is up with him oh God he was faking a guitar solo or something at this concert yeah the prince the prince solo Oh I saw that the uh amazing guitar solo yeah he's like what are you playing know he was yo they clown him so bad Cory f it on the internet they really do he's just not good and he wants to be a mus like a rockstar so bad so bad it's just so cringe I wonder whose idea it was to have him open for for them me biscuit I no idea figure as a draw though as a money maker it's kind of probably kind a famous name them biscuit even has poly Shore rapping with them oh really I didn't even know that wow do makea dude he's from New Jersey he's one of the Jersey Boys I mean that that I get you know Cory felin Cory felman's been off the radar like he's been off the he's just like weird like ever since he exposed Hollywood he's been on his music thing and he's in his like artistic realm and he's just like not in reality at all like he sounds horrible and he's like this like dictator he's like this dictator uh manager for his band like he makes he's like a miniu Hefner with his yes yeah you gota there's videos on him there's videos on him they clown the hell out of him it's yeah he had a house like not too far from where I live in the valley of Hollywood over LA and uh he had like a like five wives or something like five years ago he had just a bunch of women that would live with him and he was sort of like a Hugh Hefner wannabe wow dude recardo panta is what my favorite metal band over metallic I like panta better shout out to them but you're right when he exposed Hollywood that was almost a backfire for him I feel like it was I feel like he got like black Bal oh yeah Hollywood's dirty man there's so many secrets there's so many nasty secrets in Hollywood oh man it's true you don't even know what's going on with Diddy like they haven't even mentioned him lately yeah somebody made a comparison on it said like an analogy was like uh everybody in Hollywood is like on a boat it's like you're on a cruise you can get all the food you want you know it's first class treatment you know you just you got to stay on the boat though but if you stay on the boat the weather's always good everything's great all the time you try to get off the boat you know you're never getting off alive like you know what I mean you try to [ __ ] around you're gonna end up getting found dead you know overdose or get off next thing you know you're on the port running after it before it takes off again yeah you ever SE of the people running for the boat like Los show up on time oh my God bro it's funny leave it at me this week is ruined oh man cool Rick oh uh are you serious Allan um yes you can you can have the riches but I was actually going to think about wrapping up soon I have a headache that's getting worse and I feel some nausea coming on uhoh so I may be pushing myself a little too hard but um I'm going to give you the wrenches we'll see how long this stream continues to go and you can if if you don't use them all tonight like if you don't get your money's worth tonight you can keep them for another day or two um if you want to excuse yourself to go grab something to eat the three of us will handle your panel think yeah I don't have to actually let anyone else on I I could just rely on the three of you to yeah go take a breather bro go outside and I might do that um recharge try to take care of this headache um and see what happens all right let me let me get um Allan and Liliana probably my fault no this this has been this has been coming off for a while I think I mentioned the stream earlier too ibuprofen Jeff works great for me for headaches like what does ibuprofen Advil or Ibuprofen oh uh yeah tyo usually does the trick I I just took some a while back I can't remember how long it's been so it might be too soon you probably need something to eat without being on cam you know I think I think that's what it was yeah just go eat something more coffee my I forgot to eat happens all the time [ __ ] do it oh and let me get the uh hang out music play alen I appreciate it very very much thank you uh the renting the wrenches was kind of a joke but I'm glad y'all are running with it renting the rench yeah I need to rent a wrench this not a bad idea oh that's awesome Ricardo you got to see uh Metallica live that was probably dope that was probably a good show bro they're looking for a new they just got a new base player they were trying out new bases I don't know if they took Trent Reser or or the bases from 9in Nails I don't know what his name was wasn't Trent Reser but they were at Trent Reser's Studios or some [ __ ] never mind 10 res is good man he T produces a lot I like him in 9 nails though N Nails are awesome all right let's see yeah all right y'all are all rened up and like I said um like yeah 24 hours or something you don't have to use it all tonight all right um I'm going to go get my break and I'll come back and thanks a lot guys I sure appreciate keeping it going is there anybody that wants to come up at the last minute before I take a break I can let you on yeah hit the link now and forever hold your peace for however long till Jeff comes there all right I'll see y'all in a bit oh Ricardo that's that's crazy you saw that on acid oh bro that was probably freaking amazing yeah so um I haven't seen Mike in like two three months how's you doing oh I'm good man I've been working taking care of my boys yeah you know how it is stay out of it yeah trying to just watch from the bushes on those things yeah man I'm trying to stay out of the drama man I don't need drama you were all in the drama dude you were I was but you know it's toxic it's not for you bro you know Mike like I kind of I feel better mentally than I'm not all in it preaching to the choir buddy yeah what up Paul what up Paul what up what up what oh Paul let's go yeah Paul's in the building yeah mik good to see you sleep good to see you too mate where have you been I've been working and and just you know staying unplugged man it's been good oh yeah Mike you got a new job man congratulations on that man goad to work out for you man just it's like back in the back in the business man it's a you know long days yeah I know trust me I know man I I work every day man I know got to get back into the grind of every day yeah it's a it's a it's a high volume place so it wasn't used to that either where you're juggling and you're doing like one to two a day every day so it's like you know it's it's like that first month was like a little rough getting going because it's like I'm I'm in like the slow pace like Mercedes mode you know what I'm saying so it was uh it was a little tough getting used to but I finally like started you know hitting the stri like you know a couple weeks ago so that's good it's like that with anything yeah get used to it again once you get used to it it's like you know a routine you're you're absolutely right dude get musle memory going so what's been happening I just just working bro just hanging out Sam's kind of been in the you know in the mix of things just keeping me like kind of like agress what's going on yeah nothing much has changed really it's just the same old drama recycled really well you're right in fact uh it was hilarious watching the castless kind of come up here like the same thing that was happening you know in other places too yeah it's a same recurring theme M BR it really is though and it's like the same people kind of they cycle in at like almost the same timing like it starts off with certain people and then they get exposed or pissed off well sudden they get driven out and these new people come in and then you start getting deeper in the community then the people expose them and they try to convince you they're right it's like oh God Jeff's like I don't know about any of this and you know you don't even want to show them the ropes because it's like everybody's trying to quote show them the ropes you want to do that to like here good luck to you you know use your use your morals that's the best advice I can give you good luck yeah that's why I'm try trying to take my channel in another Direction yeah oh another Direction you had a great Channel though you never did drama Paul you always had like discussion well I done that but you know the lives and I thought i' change it to do the crime in history oh there you go I like history history is awesome man you can never go wrong talking about history and now I've heard like a producer now he's going to help me do my videos oh it's dope [ __ ] so going to those museums right Paul well I was going to go to the museums I sent off a load of um cuz you got a check see if you allowed to do it first yeah which I didn't know and I checked I I never get any letters back or emails back from anybody apart from the Imperial War Museum which set out conditions that what I was was allowed to film I'm not allowed to film and yeah so I thought oh that's a bit you thought you you thought you'd be allowed to show some things to highlight the museum to get into a a wider audience yeah you would think it would be okay no but no no they just they um didn't receive anything back any permissions back from anybody and the castle I done I win I done wins a castle and that well castles aren't built for Wi-Fi are they no no yeah no black or anything yeah they I I don't think um with them the Conqueror ever of Wi-Fi yeah so but I still doing that um I've just had to family funeral to go to and this been a couple of just really weird months August and September I've had uh somebody cloned my credit cards and had my aunt pass away too so yeah but hopefully get back on track now yeah so you get victim of theft and a hit and run that's yeah yeah the theya was something weird CU I live in um south of England and they claim somebody got a hold of my cards in Wales which is about 200 miles away yeah bro what a who steals who steals a car how do they steal it a card my credit cards oh your cards Oh I thought you said card to yeah right cards they stole your credit cards the numbers you mean yeah the numers yeah the the CL the numbers and they dude that happens all the time here Paul the the scanners they have scanners on the scanners you know what I mean like on the card machines they scan your numbers and thenation I always check hey you got to check dude you got to check all those things I don't even use them I use my phone now yeah I'll use um the Fe I'll use the uh fi method you just give the thing a quick tug or something they just move across your hand across the uh key the keyboards or the keysers they just scan my phone where I go and that's it man I don't want to mess with those machines I've had that happen where my identity got taken my my card number my uh I had to get a new debit card and everything they took $20 I had get it back well they can take something me I've got nothing in the bank so they can't take all time what they do is they'll they'll charge at 20 and then if you don't do nothing about it they'll hit you again with like a hundred like and then then you'll notice and then you by then it you know it takes forever to get the money back is here what the [ __ ] yeah where you been Mike P Bro My Guy good to see you dude [ __ ] to see you too man I was asking Sam about you last time I seen him dude I'm very very happy to see you man good thanks for coming up yeah but I say it in the new technology age man ID theft is at all time high like if you go and search your credit some of y'all probably got a mansion and a Ferrari and your name out there and didn't even know and don't get a dude [ __ ] that that's crazy that's crazy bro we have over here something called National Insurance number and it's uh it helps to pay for like NHS and stuff like that I've had people me up with a heavy Indian accent and go hello my name is Brian your National Insurance number has been used in a in a crime oh in a crime yeah kind of two years ago my brother found out he owned a uh 2015 F-150 and a bedroom house in Texas that he's never seen either one of those things what the are you serious bro serious bro three house and he didn't even know about it two years after they purchased he found out about it he never had his credit checked or anything like any back any he didn't look into his he went he went to go apply for a home loan and found out about it I guess that person been living in that house for two years oh my God that's crazy wow they took him for a ride dude what happened to his credit did it ever get resolved yeah yeah they got that dude in court and everything else bro but he's an illegal oh damn man it's my name mate you take out my name get dude I find out somebody oh my God that's crazy how did they get that how did they do that now check this out what if they used credit he was buying everything cash straight across for those years when it happened and he wasn't using credit for anything and I guess they had everything you know creditwise that was being mailed to his identity they was using they had it rerouted somewhere else so he didn't find out until he applied for a home himself F that's my point like so if somebody uses somebody's credit they get the house under their name under their credit they pay they were making a payments on the house it'll make his credit better it'll probably make his credit better yeah yeah I mean like it wasn't like any red flags like I see how thaten when he went for the home loan the home that he's in now in Kansas they was asking does he want to use that for collateral or does he want to use the house and Texas or either one or does he just want the loan straight across and he was like wait what what what house in Texas what of the house but but his credit was so good because the person was making the payments that's wild that's wild bro was it a nice house though I wonder what happened to I don't know he just said it was a three-bedroom house I don't know if he ever seen photos of it or what I wonder if that person got arrested yeah they did they did yeah they finally got they lost the house and they lost all yeah they're illegal though so it's like you know he oh that happens with a lot of illegals you're right I could yeah dude I could see how a lot of illegals would do that you know does America have a problem with rors just to get around the whole paperwork thing wow no I think we have more of a problem with squatters than rors you know like I don't mean rors I mean Roma I bet both Mike I bet both yeah I think this guy probably just got his PP slapped and then they gave him like a nice like holiday in for like the next two years so all right that's what they do they give these immigrants uh vouchers and stiens for money and dude they get cards access cards I was watching some stuff where this dude had a way of tricking the bank system then he bought a bunch of places and rented them out airbnbs and he was living like a millionaire for a good minute before he got caught damn he tricked him no he just went to go pull that trick at the break one time again and didn't realize that they had caught on I guess he did it too many times same way most people get caught what do you mean Romans what do do you mean roma roma gypsies oh he's talking about like traveling people no no no not The Travelers gypsies I'm talking about Roma the people the people go you see we get Roman gypsies over here and they gu end up homeless but some of them are not some of them have got nice houses back in Romania and they going send begging gangs to work in the cities is it like the guy that like Brad Pit like played with he was like a you know boxer and he was like I fight you fight you for him you know and he like just TR around the Caravan like sort of yeah sort of those are romanies these are Roma these come from like the Eastern Europe yeah they come in you see them begging and like one I was in Glasgow last because of and I seen this I brought some food hot food and some drink and I was looking for some homeless person to give it to because I've been in that situation and I seen this guy he just looked too well dressed and too well fed and I looked at him and I went nah mate you're too wellfed you are AR you walked away and gave it to another person Jeff will be back everybody he's uh he's just taking a little break we're holding down the panel for him mik sorry when are you gonna start streaming again and your trash cake conversation came up again today in somebody's chat yeah well uh I don't I don't know what the rumor is now but I only stuck a pinky in that's it all right I didn't do anything else what are you talking about bro how not know about trash what is he talking about a couple years ago it was just oh okay all right all right sup by the way huh what's going on Spike how you doing brother dead I'm like what the Yeah well okay Tommy if you don't know basically is that I was I was alive and I was walking down to the store I was very very hungry and I take a left and and sitting uh perched perfectly above the circle of this town trash can it's just like perfect I remember Mike perfect cake and it was like it still had the do from the condensation the the frosting was not dry it was just like somebody baked this perfect cake and then it was just like nah you know they took like two slices out and like me I'm good and it said like I remember it said something like Pastor Franklin or something on it too and it's like you know this you can't have pastor's name on the cake and have it be a bad cake I mean there's zero chance cake is you know and then but it looks turns out as probably was about 97% chance it was a hobo trap and if I had actually eaten the cake it probably would have died or something but um but yeah so I just no no that's paranoia talking you just said the cake was perfectly fine you don't know what's in the inside of the cake do you had I walked there by myself with no like streaming going on I might have walked back home with most of the cake but in this case it was like yeah you know you don't want to you don't want to be known for trash cake and then it's it still ended up happening so yeah getting bash for not taking the cake I get bash for for maybe sneaking it off camera not taking it Taking It it doesn't matter is it's bash City up in here we good we Gucci but yeah that's a trash cake deal man still actually regret not taking home the trash C [ __ ] was [ __ ] so when you going to live stream again that was the original yeah um not sure you know it's it's like it basically worked like six days a week so I've just been kind of you know settling into that job but I do I do want to get back to it but I don't want to promise you something I'm not going to do right away but I am it's hard when you work isn't it Mike when you have a job and all especially my job dude I'm like [ __ ] talking all day I'm doing this and that so then I I get off don't feel like coming home and doing it yeah dude I'm just like put on a movie and silence is like what I'm looking for I feel that like for real but I miss good people disconnect yeah no but I miss you guys like it's nice being on panel with like people like good people you know what I'm saying yeah good conversation facts and Jeff seems like a really nice dude this my first time meeting him but he seems like he's kind of you know don't give a [ __ ] you know just trying to be here good time if you're if you're n he's good at nipping out the drama yeah get the [ __ ] out of here you know he's good at nipping it and uh he handles a good panel I give him much credit for that yeah no I I see that we pretty much stay on topic yeah yeah I I told Jeff I like the way he handles his panel I told from our community he's known as The Sanctuary exactly it is it's a place to disconnect from all the you mean it's like a safe zone or something where where have you seen a pan that Mike can't be chased off other than here bro I'm trying to think I I just I know I've seen one before yeah it's like I wonder if somebody tried this before I'm not sure I'm not sure just I'm having trouble coming to me man I can't tell if it's if it's a legit first idea funny yeah yeah somebody else tried to make that idea work it didn't work out so well yeah no it's a many try and fail but you know somebody somebody like Jeff might be able to get oh I don't understand I don't understand his touch just like I don't understand my own you know I don't have drama over there on my channel when I do stream okay but no disrespect but how many people come over there uh a decent amount and all the people that was giving you troubles they come over there and they behave for you without any drama like even Mel Pandora they she does topics and she has pretty good good numbers but even there sometimes drama flies in you know it's hard to nip it all the way out sometimes when you it's on the energy you give it yeah I mean Jeff gives it the no tolerance I give it the you know what I'm gonna play into this but I'm G give it my own narrative on it yeah yeah if you play into it then yeah I get that I do like Mel's show though she has a pretty cool show yeah think they called me panel killer for years so how many panels did I intentionally kill on their ass I know dude you should try to kill them m a few times brutal you had the appropriate audience calm down prob you're a member bro don't worry about your Wren we were talking like a good topic and you came up and you like this is boring as hell and this and that it's like and then you just left and I was like man well that's that's him that possibly happened before ker to me yeah but In fairness you were drinking a lot you just kind of like came up all SM but how often did I complain about your show Mike not often at all usually into the combo 100% we've had we've had way more but that was just that one time where you like I got the brunt of the panel kill and I was like wow so that's what that's like okay very good are you on was Legend what am I on about you're crying about wrenches that's a and you're a member so don't worry about wrenches yeah uh I think I think Jeff is running some kind of special if you show your d uh you a wrench so uh just whip it out and we'll uh we'll assist in getting you that doesn't sound like an exile fan all yeah who cares this is why I don't even have the chat up it's uh who cares you cannot run the stream with no chat Mike [ __ ] that oh no no no listen I'm not running this stream I'm saying I don't even have the chat up on my side bro I'm not chatting anybody I'm sorry because I not looking at the chat ain't nobody in the chat even said nothing about you except for pro but he asses that mic pee up there and then he his Wren oh yeah I'm sure we have some tissues lying around here we can help out with you still oping it out with Proby me your biggest hater Mike I have no clue dude I'm sure he's probably one of them or isn't I don't know dude I really don't know what people think I love your biggest haters like I give bones all the energy he has for that's my biggest hater got mad when I went over to 10th man's I stole the show from Bones he just like [ __ ] [ __ ] you yeah he fires shots all the time and gets mad when I fire him back he gets super mad every time talk me you hear in his voice then he frustrates the [ __ ] out of me like a little child bones reminds me of like a mall cop or something he's like a security guard for sure him and a should best of friends just like you know I want to be a cop but I'm not one's got the security credentials the other one's got the security attitude right yep so apparently I was making a joke with uh with Spike and I put something in writing that says that Spike sucks sucks D for money and somebody screenshotted it to spike just to be like before I let you know what's going on instigator like once was bad enough and I regret it there's so many instigators out here I thought that was funny though I was like yeah no I definitely said that 100% the person who sent it wasn't even a Mr P hater they just they probably just looking out for you they like Spike you know people are talking about you like this you know what talking damn I didn't know I was crying up here I need to go get some tissue y'all come back when you have some hair in your chest exile I I know I got it on the chin just not enough on the chest it's like you and ladybug are his mortal enemy who bones he doesn't like ladybug or ex oh who cares a lot of people when you have a name like name bones like I'm sorry I just tune you out at this point when you use the Avatar of a skeleton when you can clearly use your real face and it'll pass yeah real face that's funny say you look like a half dead walking zombie that's hilarious how's everybody been doing you guys all been good Health's good [ __ ] fine oh yeah Proby show the receipt is Tommy got any more new phones from throwing them downstairs or no I still have the same iPhone oh that's good [ __ ] talks about I'm a crier but he literally is a Caren in every cat panel that he sees me in lot of Cs out here projections real seen a lot of Kens a lot of Karens you know that seems like the new thing in the 20 2024 definitely is it's like there you look on the internet it's all you see Ken k videos it's like but what what defines a Ken like what's his character CH like what's I don't know I guess uh somebody uh I guess they're like out like if you're in like a a restaurant or something and you're making a fiasco over something that's like you're acting like a child and you know like some of those types of things where you see these flip out people flip out I don't know I don't know what the finds again I guess every I like watching that [ __ ] though You' be at a restaurant start flipping out for no reason video are funny they go total Bones on the waitress well that's that's what I mean the intern their internet is saturated with them because the videos do so well because people watch them interesting that's all you see it's interesting better and now I I heard I heard I don't know if this is true did somebody try to do something to Trump again at a rally oh don't even tell me dude I can't tell no I heard something but they they nipped it in the but like right away yeah cuzz this one wasn't set up that's why [ __ ] so yeah I don't know if that if it was just an agitated fan or if it was a real a real actual I'm surprised he's still alive dude he's you know you're getting shots like that taking at you you know I mean dude you he is so lucky like he turned like a fraction of a second like if he didn't turn his head dude it's over like he's done I don't think he was lucky I think it was just cuz the shooter was absolutely terrible at shooting no he turned his head at the last minute and it bre it's kind of a combination of itess rapper now he's got that he doesn't turn his head dude if he it's a direct shot bro right that's true if you're going to shoot somebody yeah the biggest part you're D for no I I get it but like they said that like even like a bad shot at that distance it's still like a slam dunk in those cases I feel like God turned his head oh I mean listen uh that would be yeah that's that's good what else do you think it could be I don't think he reacted that way he just could be lucky mate that's all I mean dude what of the CH he doesn't even put that thing on his uh he doesn't put that page up at his rallies at all he just happen to put that up and look at it at the very moment that he was being shot at I mean it was pretty wild man yeah yeah I almost felt like he saw it like he like I don't know man like when you see some of this footage it's like he's right there and people like saw him way before and it's like they wild out all and then you hear the sound going pop pop and then you hear people saying like drop down and it's like as soon as it hits his ear he's like oh [ __ ] and like crazy yeah he touched his like mosito hit his ear or something like it was like yeah or like something just nipped his ear like yeah and then you hear you can hear the you could hear the audio he's like hold on let me get my shoes I need my shoes where I try to get up he's like wait a minute hold on one second and he put his fist up oh dude that was like you know and he kind of I think he fumbled the ball as far as PR's concerned and trying to like really take advantage of this and like maybe win over some people because he just the way he handled it he handled the way you would want a leader of your country to handle something like the guy the guy gets shot at and he comes up and he fist pumps the air saying fight fight fight and it's like yo that's the most like heroic thing I've seen like from any did you see the the photo op like the photo op is like it's like him incredible I mean it's like the best photo op you could ever ask for but but then he's got all these people that like oh he's Chang she's done that this that and the third and then what does he do he goes right back to the same exact Behavior completely ruining his ability to kind of hit the reset button and win over a bunch of people and he just completely dropped it I'm this is why I had an issue with him uh back in 2020 it's like it's so hard for me to get behind the guy when he acts like a [ __ ] idiot yeah know that's part of my problem with him too like he's not not perfect he's got a big ego and uh he Mak he does make mistakes don't get me wrong poli's great but it's just like dude come on you have the ability here to win over a lot of people and just stay quiet act presidential and you're done you're this is this one's in the bag this instead he goes on like you know name calling and doing all this stuff and you're going to lose the people that go left and right on these things that percentage of Independence that could go left or right you lose them when you [ __ ] like that you know yeah definitely he could have acted a lot more professional it is what a n CL guy in the chat could have been way more professional yeah but he's playing to his magga supporters you know playing you know he's doing a lot of interviews dude and he's doing a great job getting like he was on Theo Fons a little while ago that was a good decision yeah crazy Millions on that one now he's got RFK and he's got tulsy gabbit let's go dude what's up Megan Hi Megan he's got a lot of people's you know getting behind him now so facts hey Megan Megan good to see you I think you got no sound Megan yeah S I don't know Mike your your microphone goes in and out a little bit yeah I'm not on my nice mic I can hear you though [ __ ] shitty headphones I just haven't set up my iPad yet I wasn't even planning on coming up here that long say I know the winter is coming I can't believe Summer's over my kids are already back in school how about now I can hear you now better hey me me oh there he is my city little muff I can hear you it's can hear you I guess just yeah you're kind of muffled we could hear you it's just not very articula a little all right he the airpod shout out to the airpod oh you heard that that's good so what's up how's it going happy labor day yep happy L day thank you I've been good I tweaked my back on Friday so I've been like it's been a miserable weekend but today's the first day that I can actually like move oh that sucks Megan hope you feel better yeah did you get to do anything fun today no I therapy back to work tomorrow yeah what is Labor day it's a holiday to celebrate the labor movement I guess in America right is that what it is yeah Cate the modern slave exactly we just have bank holidays here the banks are off today too yeah thing we have like a thing every few times a year we have a thing called a bank holiday and supposed to be so everybody has a day off yeah yeah I needed it I'm I'm glad to have it nice three-day weekend mhm I remember school always started after Labor day but it went yeah this year it started before yeah both my boys started the week before yeah my birthday never used to be in the during the school year and then now everyone goes to school before my birthday so yeah they they made it earlier it seems like nowadays it didn't used to be when I I went to school wasn't this old well look got my um my school year stuff in uh the 20th of September and I got one happening on on October yeah that's like when uh when I used to start like mid September I guess yeah St it is another day to give us an excuse to have a day off because we work labor do work wait is Proby is Proby not a lazy American I think he's Australia actually he's in Aussie I think pretty sure Oh I thought he was from Canada no he's just he's never again I think it's a fre speech in Canada if I'm not mistaken all these woke people on the internet oh yeah all the wokies go up to Canada the woke mindset the woke yeah crazy I'd only go to Canada for the weather getting hotter and Canadian Gees come here already so except for when they crap on my lawn Canadian geese are [ __ ] yeah they fly here turns out they like mberry uh berries uh they had I thought they were attacking me one day when I got close to and and they ran up to me and I'm like we're going to kill them we're going to kill them all and then and then they I realized they were eating the mulberries I'm like oh okay all right we're gonna get through this we're gonna get through this we're gonna get through this dude but they were like gunning for me bro they were like running from like 50 yards out because they like knew that the mulberries were coming down you know it was crazy [ __ ] mulberries yo you ever had a mberry dude you eat them right off the tree yeah we used to pick them growing up y we need sugar they're actually good very goodes like of a raspberry yeah like a raspberry yeah well it's kind of like a raspberry it's like a lighter like it's sweeter yeah sweeter definitely sweeter uh just God forbid you get any of that on your clothes forget it just throw it away pure pure ink but uh man [ __ ] awesome kind like cactus fruit yeah get all of your fingers too and it doesn't come off your fingers either it's actually like really surprising how much gets on it's kind like it's kind of like a Dye almost yeah it's stain everything like even the bowls and the the dishes and the you would put them in would would be all purple and stained after you would done with it oh it's like a back bur then wor it kind it's real juicy yeah but his D the D to it is a lot stronger than a Blackberry D you guys ever lived around Pelicans oh well Pelicans that live in the desert anyways because uh we eat a lot of cactus fruit and they would when they would [ __ ] they just looked bombs of like red is awful nice like no other it was terrible people are like what like it's Pelican poop so there are desert Pelicans huh there there's such thing is a desert Pelican well there's Pelicans that live by the ocean and then there's parts of the desert that are coastal like Southern California is all considered desert right I didn't know that that the desert uh the Pelicans you know venture out to the desert that's interesting well they don't Venture far from the water the desert island they' be all over that I see what you're saying they just need to fish yeah yeah oh fine Barbara don't say hi to any of us just Paul oh hey Barbara I know I'm famous she was stopping by she's been here I she said just stopping in to say hello to Paul Morrison not anybody yeah hi Barbara yeah sorry guys Uber famous I've got to take my few to say hello to my fan is there anybody that wants to start another live not me I'm going to bed don't me no no man is like yeah Mike P does cuz everybody Mike P want to get back in the game get some practice Yeah Mike P would like uh to get his uh D slapped around and then go to bed so uh he said get I'm going to have to start winding this down to you myself and go it's all good je take care no man I'm sorry you're not feeling good I do I do St St but not me not me doing it 24 just having a stream that runs 24 hours with like a small team maybe that keeps it going have a couple other people go live like on definitely help you out on like a Saturday night when I'm you know tell what if you want to do that do a um live stream Circle get a couple of fight a couple of people on and see if I'm sure somebody's live now and do that from there yeah that's what we think something like that we were uh it's really it's it's finding the right people I get you the people that you find that you trust you know temporarily just give them host ability so they can drop and bring up and then all they need it's even finding those people Megan's hour stream before Megan's been like big help on on two of them you know everyone here actually has been a help on everybody could stream and know it's hard to do it alone yeah I think it's a useful like it's a useful skill especially if this trend continues into the future and more and more people this becomes the norm it's going to be useful to have people that have the skill set yeah yeah I think we did a 40 hour stream wow 48 hour who did a 48 hour on Vegas Valley I think we did I mean you know he wasn't there for 48 hours but it was on for 48 hours yeah what a legend where's he now what a legend sorry good that's good leg Legend that's Mr P's humor man right there great want to see him come back though to be honest it was I would like I would like to see what it's like Miss seen a car wreck you know do you think he's gonna come in like swinging and just pissed off or you think he's gonna come in try to be all all like he's going to get attacked that's the thing as soon as he comes online he's going to get like oh how much D you suck stuff he's going to just like you know you know how it's going to go it's going to be attack first and then he's going to just like lay waste to everybody you know think when he comes back he's going to tell us how he's here he ran the ring you know he was the big man in the wing there yeah tell people what to do first try to convince us that he grew an inch too that he's now 5'9 you know then you'll see the or then you see some of the original panel come running back and oh I'm sure the whole crew will assemble he'll get his like sidekick there he'll get the you know all the other people that are there he come back it'll be it'll be all right return of s yeah be like hanker man wouldn't he you give the call out and sudden these people just turn up from nowhere exactly or like Marvel Infinity war or something I I tell you what I'm gonna do I'm gonna start like my evening routine and wind down and so I'll I'll keep all of you running if you want to keep going like you did before and I'll go and I'll come back in like 20 or 30 minutes and I can start to wrap it up do your thing man I know yeah it it'll be a way for me to keep it going a little longer without having to shut it down right now okay whatever you want dude yeah no y'all are doing a great job you want to keep it on or if you want to shut it off it don't matter to me continue on this is good this is good y'all do good all right well before you go what I want to know is where did you come from Jeff like how did you find yourself this uh part of the internet I have no idea um PSE well PF Yung I guess is my panel Daddy I started from his community um a lot of us did and then I found my way to The Crucible I met machine lies I went on his panel what not and that kind of introduced me to the panel verse and just read the chat yall read the chat got it very cool well I know you're not feeling well Jeff but apprciate you having me up it's nice meeting you oh yeah you too thanks for coming up from the past I love it I haven't seen that sock account in a while soing it did you guys hear that somebody was making U like magic the Gathering cards of like OTW the pane yes yeah yeah and we we we have something similar that we're cooking up like cards what a it's going to be like a collectible trading card game and you you play the cards with super chat so there's a certain amount to play each card and you you play it live on the panel with the people like oh okay and so each card is going to have different powers and there you go yeah depending on who's on the panel or something it looks really really interesting I can't wait till he rolls it out he has like I think over 300 cards or 700 cards that he plans to create of the different panelist 700 yeah so he's going to like put out an initial Edition with like some of the major panelist in his sector and he has the artwork he has their superpowers what effect they have on the Gabe he's put a lot of work into this sounds like itone how that's gon play out cerrone's card is already like trading on eBay it's like hasn't been made yet but they're like it's going to be the most valuable card hands down I think he has a GI he already has a couple gifts well of course it is Mike he's got level 27 clearance well all right I'm not playing I'll come back be back said I'll come back he'll Master troll us all into submission it's just not fair so whatever yeah yeah everybody any profession that we have he's done it and he's a master at it I was hoping if I say his name enough times he would show up but has it worked he was here earlier and then like uh I don't know he said something about FBI oh he's back in the FBI no he said he didn't say that he didn't say that he said they were talking about hate crimes and he said you got to be careful saying that you're going to kward somebody cuz the FBI could get involved and like he like he was like you shouldn't say that because and then it just went off from there yeah then Mike got kicked off hey maybe it was like double speak or something he's like you know going to show up at like his house or something know you know it just I don't know can never stay on topic it just always veers off to you that shot yeah I love his topic choices though like you know space isn't space interesting you know like yeah totally is you know like what about the election who do you think is gonna win it's like oh okay next um Mike did you hear his best one about space no no the giant space lasers that could destroy a town oh dude Jewish space lasers are like killing everybody right now they're actually talking that there's a lady in the Senate that see she knows she she knows the truth green shut they predicted this a long time ago that's why you see the roofs a certain color they didn't you know go in parts of thew lasers that's when I go out I dress in camouflage mate I don't want them spotting me yeah yeah Taylor green yes margerie Taylor green yeah talking shout out to bronze bird I just see my homie in the chat what's good Mar's Wild Man Mar's wild yeah what a great her husband is wild actually he's like anti-trump oh is he he was it's all right margerie Taylor Green's husband well it's just like a who is that spokesperson for Trump uh the blond what's her name again worked for him while he was again you didn't know about that Mike no I wait I didn't know about who because I know Mar Taylor's husband he was like on the de he was full Democratic party in 2020 going against Trump he wrote a book against Trump for great really yeah like they they live in the same house I don't know if they got divorced eventually but I think they're still married and one is a full Trump supporter works for him or did work for him or an affiliate and the other one hates him hates him wow wonder the dinner table yeah imagine that dude imagine being in that house yeah like we keep the we keep our business outside of the house seriously they're literally on TV programs like bashing each other's position oh my God D wild and he I think he wrote a book about it I'm not mistaken is she single now all right so they got divorced they got divorced you can't stay together with that no but listen they were together like during that election process it was like they were getting divorced at that time I think 2016 is probably right when she started to support Trump is probably when I got rocky got it and then yeah that that that is wild that whole good for families yeah making fames great again breaking up a family near you dude my my favorite thing about Trump second grade vocabulary that he uses for everything it's like nobody does this better than me nobody has better toys better than me nobody there's like a whole monologue of that Hees any complicated words dud it's like very big or like yeah that's like that's like his main word you know oh come on man he's a riot Mike he's a riot oh dude I love just saying the country even the people that hate him can't help but to laugh at him sometimes because he is funny I mean I I like him better on the interviews because you see he's more of a human on the interviews but you know yeah TV makes him into as long as they ask the right questions no no I really don't they just he the same sh my favorite moment of his though was when they said it was racist of you to call it the Chinese virus he said well it came from China China China came from China he was saying they gave we got a gift from China and he was talking about the the you know Co well he dances around the questions Mike like at the debate like debate was crazy they didn't even answer the question bro that was W because if you and he has to respond to the insult he can't and it was all insults it was just all insults yeah so it was just wild that whole debate was wild I'm wondering what the debate will be like what was that M I said shows really siick skin no yeah but yes Mr B I was talking about Kelly and Conway and and her husband because he's anti oh that's who it is kellyan Conway I'm thinking of somebody else I'm sorry my bad makes me think about SNL skit when she's uh playing um Pennywise and she's in the gutter now listen are they still alive is or um still together no no no still together with her husband yeah so they her husband hates Trump right you know bring their bring their business home or something or I know that's wild though that's so wild that they're still together and he literally wrote a book about Trump and yeah that's wild bro I knew I had the name wrong Conway is the right the name the right name I couldn't think of it Kelly and Conway I can't believe I said margerie Taylor green I I always get them mixed up they're both blondes and yeah her husband George Conway hated Trump he wrote the book yeah yeah hi boil run but yeah no that debate was crazy and uh what to me like I don't know how more people weren't outraged at like everybody else that lied to everybody and said that like this guy was like you know at the peak of his abilities and sharp his attack and getting up early and outrunning everybody in the gym or whatever other [ __ ] they said when this guy literally had a emergency where they had to on air Force while they had to land the plane because he had a a freaking stroke and they never said anything to anybody it's just been the like as a country we should have pulled I think was it the 25th am Amendment or something like that you're if the guy doesn't have his mental uh you know abilities in check capacity yeah I mean it's like like but nobody is upset about that they just suddenly everyone was surprised at the debate like oh my God what's wrong with him now his mind is lost like dude it's been 3 years of this [ __ ] like what are you talking about the guy wanders off at the G7 like he literally wandered off like it was like looking at a nursing home watching him just kind of like walk into the sunset and that's why he had to get out bro he couldn't run again don't you know that like uh SDR most people didn't know he was in a wheelchair at the end yeah before he died yeah they H his medical yeah that that was for the good of the war though too like we were at War well what about what's his everybody loves U the actor used to be I don't know I can't think of his name Ronald reagd Ronald Reagan at the end was getting Alzheimer's too FD had four terms four terms in office yeah in a wheelchair the whole time and a lot of people know that the whole time he was in even when he was younger yeah since 921 or something like that I didn't know that I didn't know that I will say ronard Reagan was a beast of a president oh when they shot at him he was like you missed yeah well you Reagan's done more things for anybody he stopped the cold war with Margaret fer and mle go um gof I thought that was Bush that told gorbachov to tear down that wall or was that was that rean that would be Reagan oh yeah you're right they both sound alike yeah you're right yeah well B Bush worked for rean he was his head of CIA or and his vice president at the end at his term he was his vice president and uh yeah he's the one that said it though all remember from the when the Wall fall down was David Hasselhoff singing yeah they had Hasselhoff up there with his guitar I remember that he was doing a concert at the Berlin Wall yeah yeah well he was a big advocate for that yeah he he was a massive star in West Germany I mean he's from yeah huge star in Germany so he still is he's he's the half man he's the half the D you can't go wrong with the half yeah done a few guys but um do you remember getting Leaf through your Dawn how to how to build a nuclear fallout shelter in your house uh h huh did you we used to get in Britain but when the Cold War was happening this delivered and they tell you how to build a nuclear fallout shelter in your own house they were doing that in America too yeah yeah people were doing that all over the place they were playing making makeshift bomb shelters because they were really afraid of a nuclear explosion because we were just racing to have more weapons and Russia lied about all of their nuclear weapons we thought they you know hundreds of weapons they wound up having four nuclear weapons when we finally found out what they had I I forget when it was but uh there' have been more than that the Russia had like they they they um ex they you know they they extended what they had yeah they inflated what they had is what I meant they the main one was they used to say we've got the Zar bomb but there was only one of them built they built that weapon just to say we've got we can build bigger new weapons than you yeah the biggest one our bomb yeah yeah isn't that Hydro is the thermonuclear um it's a hydrogen bomb isn't it hydrogen yeah hyrogen and see that's what they wanted to do in World War II but the problem is is they needed the type of nuclear explosion to ignite the hydrogen so they needed what they were developing first the atom bomb a a good fusion bomb yeah different mechanisms and so that was like what the argument was in the in the World War II like the one of the scientists wanted to just develop a hydrogen bomb but that would be like 50 times I think I forget what it was it was like 50 times the amount of TNT or explosive force or something like that yeah yeah TNT they use it it by so I mean it is wild hydrogen bombing you know it's amazing how we far we've come from World War II the end of the in nuclear weapons terms to now Hypersonic missiles we had the best manufactured the best industrial we were such an industrial giant you know especially in World War II with with Japan trying to come up against us and uh you know the whole code breaking at Midway how we broke that code to figure out they were going to attack us at our Midway base and um we set them up so when they came to attack us we were waiting for them and we just decimated them we decimated their car they brought all their carriers to attack us and we just nailed them all in this big huge battle at Midway America took quite a few hits in that they lost the Yorktown in that battle didn't they yeah we lost some stuff too you know but we we definitely prevailed at Midway you had to ask for Britain for metal top carriers here we go my uh my stepdad volunteers on the Midway Museum ship San Diego yeah he worked on the helicopters yep that ship is at at in California right San Diego like you San Diego yeah yep yeah y he gets he gets to work on the planes and the helicopters he's a happy man oh that's so cool so cool again I would love to do that like that would be a cool job all we've got is um out the surviv ships of World War II I think it's hm Bast which is on the TS and that's a I think that's a like Cruiser I think that's one of the few ships that got left from World War II yeah I hate this part of our history dude the whole like and bomb stuff like well we're the only ones that ever set them off Mike you believe it was necessary I hate it dude like supposedly a military zone was basically a civilian dropped there was so many it was a civilian drive it was supposed to be a military Target but it was 90% and then you listen to people they say oh they weren't ready to surrender and it's like you look at all the information it looks like they probably would have surrendered they would have surrendered eventually I'm not too sure I'm not too sure the Japanese bito they chained their civilians and put enough propaganda in their civilians there to say if any of the Allies landed they would just murder you so that's the argument there but you know that is the argument that they would have never surrendered that they would have used used their own civilians against us um we would have had to kill everybody they thought they thought they thought and they didn't want to do that they didn't want to destroy all of the Japan historical things you know there were things that we hit that were of great value to them that they were very angry with us about so we were like let's not destroy it let's nuke it yeah let's all right let's go exactly no I get that right I mean go home it was the plans the original allies plans it wasn't the United States Air Force That was supposed to have dropped the bomb it was the RAF but because of political backing it changed to the changed to the United States Air Force and they had to modify them because the uh ARF had the manester bomber and that Bombay didn't have to be modified but the b29 b29 yeah b29 uh Bombay had to be modified to hold the B so what about this argument here okay listen to this argument here what if we didn't use the nuclear bombs and we just basically made sure that Japan didn't invade any other territories or places and we just tried to resist them in okay so Japan wasn't invad scar into surrender onto the back foot they weren't invading any places they were retreating retreating in within Japan and they done what Germans Germany done and they fought they relied on super weapons the super weapon they relied on was the battleship Yamato and they built two of them um and one was used as an aircraft carrier so what if we tried to resist them to stay in their own country you think they would have made their own citizens suffer is that what you said yeah there would have it still would have been an outcome of Bloodshed massive Bloodshed worse if we would have invaded because bombs bullets anything like that so all right so the argument here Listen Hold on the argument here is we keep them we keep them uh we we drop the nuclear bombs and kill civilians to stop the Japan people from killing civilians it's basically yeah yeah our list to that ARG listen to that argument though like you have to M they're not equivalent yeah our civilians are not equivalent to Japanese civilians quick and well the Japanese civilians were like soldiers themselves I mean they were uh you know sabotaging a lot of I mean it was war it's not the normal rules they were all in they were trying to charge that tanks and soldiers of mines on sticks I mean mean isn't this the same type of people that would like stab themselves in the abdomen with their samurai sword like kamakazi Pilots but you know the kamakazi pilots I heard all didn't want to die like they some of them weren't even given enough fuel to make it back you have to look at the argument is they almost forced to do it you knowok Okana sorry if I pronounce that wrong when the Americans when yeah when Americans they found a load of dead civilians at the bottom of the cliff they weren't murdered what happened was the Japanese filled them with so much propaganda that they actually jumped off the cliffs themselves fearing that the Americans are going to kill them wow but there i' I've read somewhere in a lot of documentaries that a lot of the comicazi pilots didn't literally want to die they literally felt they were forced to die you know they weren't given enough fuel to even make it back so it was yeah there's on that huh there's documentaries on that yeah yeah I've seen a couple of them I mean some of them wanted to do it maybe but I mean I think a lot of them didn't I mean they wanted to die it's it's not natural to want to kill yourself dude I mean yeah but they had like dying for your people it was Big in Japan like honor like it was built into them so it was hard to know their mind you know what I mean yeah but you don't hear much about the German kazis do you well the Germans did did a lot of dive bombing was part of they had right is that what you mean no no no no no at Allman Pilots are actually trying to kamakazi themselves because they didn't want to get if they were stuck on the Eastern European side they didn't want to get um imprisoned by the Soviet Union so they into people and kill themselves yeah the German and Soviet soldiers were horrible to each other to each other the Russians were horrible to the German civilians in Berlin especially they've got the gra ofin yeah there was a lot of horrible things that happen yeah definitely on both sides yeah definitely but they that doesn't come out in the Norberg trials Russia isn't held to any account because they were our Ally and Ne they did war crimes themselves I believe oh yeah they was Japan for what they done American American took unit 30 unit 31 I think and they kept all they made all the people work for the America and they took all the records about Prosecuting any of these Japanese who worked in the camp yeah it's almost like they did just hung the Nazis just to make a point cuz they started the war I don't know it's like they didn't there was a lot of other people that could have been held you know to a standard yeah but standard was broke war was dirty the people on both sides yeah I mean I'm sure we did some rough [ __ ] too you know quote Trump but uh yeah well you had the Japanese internment camps in US and Britain that had German internment camps kept them in I heard there's a good uh movie on Netflix about uh about a war in a battle in World War II I don't remember what it's called though operation chop sui or some [ __ ] like that maybe operation Min mince meat that's it mince is that is that I don't know cuz they're Asian yeah I don't know why stop stop Min it's called yeah yeah me isn't a battle to deceive the Germans about D-Day they took a homeless person who died put him in a military uniform put secret plans on him and put him into the sea so the Germans can find him was stuck I have a question did they wait for him to die did they find a dead homeless person and keep him in storage how did they pull this off no they found a dead homeless person and kep him in storage how do you you just they just walk the streets till they find a homeless person that was dead basically but that's what happened and they put him in a military uniform they put him floating in the sea Germans picked him up looked at these pants went ah these are wonderful and it totally wasn't true the um it was yeah sorry it totally wasn't true uh the plans were false they deceived the Germans major style yeah there's also one guy who's there's also one is a British spy who picked up the Iron Cross and the victorial cross and he de too and one day he looked at the graves and he started to cry the person goes what you doing why are you crying for you saved Millions you saved hundreds of lives he goes yeah but I could have saved all these Liv yeah she picked up his Iron Cross sorry Tommy from ad himself no I'm sure so he picked up the Victoria Cross which is the highest ward in Britain for military honor and he picked up the Iron Cross too dude some of those people at those times just unbelievable dude oh yeah those stories and especially the women yeah there's a good channel on you called what happened Rosie River yeah shout out to Rosie Riv yeah the women spies who went over to France and worked as undercover and the amount of torture they faced under the uh the Germans yeah really they that think guy that tried to kill Hitler too he uh he tried to kill him but he uh he put a bomb right next to Hitler and uh somebody moved the bomb and it didn't do the amount of damage because the place was made instead of uh cement so and he only was able to arm one of the explosives instead of two of them so Hitler actually survived the assassination attempt the guy hello sounds like that Brad Pit movie that was like a joke for in the war where they were like scalping all the oh you're theorious bastards yeah it almost sounds just like that it really was glorious bastards yeah operation Valkyrie that's what it's called they were trying to find gone again for some [ __ ] well I never watched the movie what was the uh plot Bro you've never seen in glorious B Bard it's one of I think it's one of his better ones yeah they just got around that movie you would love it oh my God yeah I want to watch it definitely watch but it's a good movie yeah I have to check it out did you hear about what do you hear about what the RF done to um done to the Germans when they tried to do deception on them so J this is I don't know if this story is true it's it's gone back so Germany built a fake um Airfield and they put fake planes at that the RAF got wind of it so they sent over a bomber to drop a wooden bomb on the Airfield yeah just let him know yeah just to let him know we know this airfield's fake damn D see that [ __ ] that's like the [ __ ] that like I want to hear about is all like the crazy like you know people [ __ ] with each other and like setting each other up and there like so much [ __ ] that happen watch the World War II documentary on Netflix if you haven't Mike World War II in Colorado it breaks it down good how each side outsmarted each other and [ __ ] it's freaking pretty cool and you ever watch the thing have you ever look out for like anything called uh for the wooden Wonder in World War II what was that movie where it was like shot like almost like it was a single shot and it was 1918 1917 like something like that dude that [ __ ] was crazy dude that was movie 1917 that that is one but yeah still it's still amazing dude it's like oh World War I was even crazier than two I mean they're both bad Wars but you know well World War II had more Innovation to it the BR the British actually invented this thing um a flamethrower and it would come up through the Earth and it would look like a um look like a snake head and it would be lined up in World War I or two yeah World War one one oh wow yeah I think they did have flamethrowers in one didn't they yeah but this is coming up from the they put it up up from the ground it was actually trench one so cled the troops but it got destroyed by German artillery somebody screaming for their lives is anyone is everyone it might be my roommates they're having game night tonight somebody screaming for their dungeon dragons I didn't hear that and they're like three rooms away so that's how Assa as long as we're good yeah I think we're okay I think I'm gonna wrap it up though I've been we're almost at 9 hours I'll keep it going till 9 yeah thank uh I think it's is a good day thank you all impressive amount of time je thanks for having up I'm gonna jump down well this is I I planed this to be more my Norm so tomorrow I think I'm gonna um if I don't take the day off I'm gonna um open one in the morning and probably go about eight hours yeah I think you should do about 14 how about that can you do 14 I would except for that 12h hour thing and then having to adult around this I'm just messing around it's good to meet you man and thanks for having me up yeah thanks for having me up come back good night guys miss P good seeing you again hey good seeing you buddy later Jeff y peace see lat take care man happy Labor Day bye me good to see Mr P good to see you all right well that uh it's going to bother me if I don't go until 9: but um man am I am I uh running on E let me um check news um more the same okay well nothing there you know what let me see who's streaming and then I can maybe send you to some other channel or at least recommend one all right we got oh Kendra I forgot about maybe maybe tomorrow night or Wednesday I'll try to stop by Kendra and see if I can snag me a daddy real quick um Tommy is live if if he's your thing um that's it really here I'm going to send y'all to Tommy's he's he's about the only one streaming right now that I think you might find interesting all right here's Tommy's Channel let's see oh I forgot that was in there let me take it out somebody told me that this morning when I first started they were making a joke about my antlers and I said oh that's cute let me put it in my headline and then I forgot all about it sorry that was there all day huh um what no what let me check these out hang on Smart Glass Technology may help treat patients with autism ADHD I wish they would say with what specifically autism could be so many different things and so could ADHD they're not not very well defined they're they're very broad categories and so when I hear stuff like that well what with what specifically about autism does this help with um a reduction in ADHD related symptoms such as hyperactivity inattention impulsivity it's a it's called the empowered brain system oh my God a modern Smart Glass what's a smart glass is that Google Glass an educ ational modules oh hang on targeting social emotional and behavioral management skills all the [ __ ] that people come and try to do to me on this panel that I react to they're putting in glasses and they want people to like intentionally Embrace this oh this is scary I'm doing my Dei thing tomorrow too that's going to get a little disturbing or at least it's disturbing me it Disturbed me the first time I went over it and then I found new layers to it which are even more disturbing researchers recruited eight children into a high ADHD related symptom group or a low ADHD related symptom group they received an intervention with empowered brain they used the the glass based glasses based social communication and behavior models while interacting with their caregivers so the glasses like coach you through interactions this is weird I mean I'm not knocking it maybe it maybe it does have the potential to be helpful for some people I don't know I guess I need to know more but yeah I never heard of them wow wait till we are really oh dig away I've pretty much an open book I put my whole life on the stream probably three or four or five times by now cuz I keep like you never know like the new audiences don't know the old story so every now and then I have to retell stor so at some point I'm probably going to have retold my entire life story five or six or 10 or 20 times so yeah dig up whatever dig dig into whatever I like that stuff though I like digging into psyches my own and others so dig away all right oh almost there um coming to oh did you it it was supposed to be like I guess like romcom a fairy tale ending and it turned out to be like a horror movie in fact I'll tell you this thing uh what a like after I left the ex like a year or so later we had mutual friends that I had met through him that were still on Facebook so we every now and then he'd show up in a Facebook conversation like in the comments of one of these other people's Pages or something very very rarely and one day somebody had made a Facebook post asking like what movie reminds you of your ex or describes you and your ex and I swear to God almost at the exact same time I answered this little Facebook thing and I wrote Sleeping with the Enemy that movie with Julia Robertson who was it not Richard Gear that was pretty woman um where she's like in that relationship with that kind of abusive creepy guy and I typed in Sleeping with the Enemy like right away I didn't have to think about it and like seconds like almost at the same time he typed in Sleeping with the Enemy at the same he was answering the same post at about the same time and he typed in the exact same movie so we both like we were both aware that we were in a very [ __ ] up situation and so what started out as like a happy riding off into my future it's like the horror movie where like at the end of the movie you think the monster's over and you feel like you've escaped and then you realize that no it's only just beginning it was like that feeling you don't you don't have to babysit my um communication I'm on point I said everything I wanted to say about the story I I included every single detail I wanted to stay I'm very satisfied with what I expressed you're just being a Karen and a nuisance right um it looks like maybe Mr P wants to come up and say one last thing you want to close this out oh I guess it was his connection keeping him on don't let him up all right sorry about that I didn't see the comment you know what I never watch those movies because they were creepy and they scared me but my sister and all her friend all her little girlfriends would have slumber parties and they rent a bunch of videos like that and they'd watch them in the living room and I would hear them from the other room and even hearing them scared me like I would have nightmares about just the stuff I was hearing coming out of this movie the sound effects the audio the music so without even seeing the movie I was scared of it yeah okay here's my thing with them they're either really scary and I can't watch them because they give me nightmares and I can't sleep and they stay with me for days I don't like a movie that stays with me in a disturbing way I don't care if it stays with me in an entertaining way or a deep way that makes me think are they are comedy movies they are some of the funniest movies you've ever seen and I laugh my ass off it's they end up being one of those one of those two things are they're so stupid that they're just not worth watching so I guess there's a third category all right um let me um oh yeah it's movie it's specific scenes for movies like like I to me they would disturb any sane person like you know those slasher movies where people are tortured and killed and stuff and I can't even begin to watch Saw or those kind of movies um it's it's the movies that's it's this it's the representations that are being depicted in these movies that disturb me so um okay I'm not sure what that means in the back but we'll we can talk and you can explain it to me uh next time I'm not even sure what that is I'm I'm not going to block you if that's what you I'm the only one with wrenches oh I forgot there are a couple of people with wrenches but they they have strict orders not to mod or they lose their wrench I mean they're just movies uh a a Shakespeare play could have the same effect and maybe did in its day in Greek drama and all that or even stor like ghost stories around the campfire oh okay you're blocked in the in the YouTube chat oh did somebody mod Mr P I'm I'm gonna quit this wrench thing if if people are using it to mod that's not part of the agreement with the wrenches you could do your you get a free second a free 10sec timeout one 10 second timeout with the wrench um that's what they had asked for last time they did this but there were strict orders to not mod I like to be the one to determine what information I want to remove from my live chat and one information I want to keep for the archive and of course you're free to delete your own comments but if people are typing it in the chat I want to determine what stays on my Channel or not yeah um I'm I'm headed there because I per I don't remember blocking anyone today were you on under another name earlier cuz sometimes if there's people in the comments uh getting too personal with their comments against panelist I'll delete comments every now and then I might time out or ban if it crosses too many lines but I don't remember putting anybody on block let's see um I do not see you blocked in my YouTube Community moderation tab I I if if your channel is under that name locked under that name I am not seeing it on my list so I don't know what's going on honestly um well uh I'll be here tomorrow so if you want to come up we can figure it out I I I don't see you on my list at all I don't know how how you're blocked you shouldn't be blocked on my end yeah it could be a YouTube glitch too all right oh God we're like six minutes over CA cuz there's a list there's like a list in studio where you can it has all the list of people that are hidden but he's not on that list take care Mr be so if if he's blocked or his comments are showing up I don't it may not be something on my end but yeah we we'll figure out like if if it's anything I could do to get you visible again we'll figure it out oh I did block certain words that could be it and its words really related to a certain person so if you're trying to communicate something about that person you may be getting blocked it really made the chat um it really streamlined the chat today and I may add the word Predator to it all right so I mean try try typing something else that's not somebody's name and it might go through all right anyway I gotta go I have have fun guys this this is good I'll be here tomorrow maybe we'll see how I wake up I might take I have might do my own Labor Day tomorrow and then come back Wednesday but if I do sh up tomorrow we're doing the Dei stuff in the morning and then I'll open the panel all right lates take care oh wait the music there we go n