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what is happening Dolphins fans and welcome to another episode of the fins tailgate with your host El capiton tonight on the tailgate party that never seems to stop we're going to talk about the buzz right now you know I mean we had the preseason game uh lackluster performance from the quarterbacks and dolphins fans unanimously clamoring for a certain someone to come back and us to clear out the backup quarterbacks in here we're going to talk about who that certain someone is also uh we're going to talk about the o line dep because somebody got traded today um on the o line on a team and we'll get into all that and uh I think the Dolphins should have jumped in on this opportunity and we're going to discuss where their head is at with this interior on the o line um guys on your way in hit the like button if you're listening on Apple podcast Spotify anywhere you hear podcasts uh twitch Twitter Youtube well no you're obviously listen on YouTube come to YouTube go to tftg network check out all the great stuff we have at tftg Network merchandise everything like that tftg network.com and uh come over to YouTube subscribe like become part of the community and the family become a member support the Channel all that good stuff and uh let's get right into it Turner Mak the second forver first fake good blocking there and down it goes caught at the 30 this is the dynamic Hill he's in for six Tyreek Hill [Music] touchdown what a BL take to your hands up plan your own hands can land your own brand and down I like no one takes accountability they want the credibility convincingly unwilling to put in the hours it takes to get some power don't be sour take a cold shower scream until you're louder work until you're prouder and all the doubters they're just y downers I swear to God they all let me down I always spot just to wear the crown I'm these fing clowns who we all taugh they deserve it Nows it's only worth it yes welcome again to another episode of the fin tailgate again with your host El capy ton hit the like button on the way in guys here on YouTube um Le let's let's get into this stuff right um not the worst performance in the preseason thus far from backup quarterbacks and we'll talk about that a little bit later because uh a game that just ended you know what I'm just going to say it uh Trey Lance is horrible is terrible he's he's the worst it's It's gotta go down as the biggest bust of all time Trey Lance as you guys know the 49ers uh traded and three first round draft picks to move up and grab Trey Lance and he just never translated for their team Brock perie uh I think he was seventh I don't even know right like non-existent in the draft class uh ends up getting the job over him and you know first of all before we talk about Tre Lance uh how about the ners right three first round draft picks go up and get a quarterback bust that would [ __ ] any other organization right it would absolutely destroy them for years and years to come but here they are a year you know this past season in the Super Bowl I mean yeah Patrick Mahomes is crazy good so that's why they lost but still I mean it's got to be recognized that this organization is so well-run with John Lynch and and Shanahan that they they're able to stay competitive after making an absolute terrible calculated uh assessment of Trey Lance with that being said Trey Lance played in this preseason game uh against the uh Rams in which he went 25 of 41 for 188 yards with 44 yards rushing and to boot they had four turnovers in that game four that means the Rams gave them the ball four extra times and they still couldn't beat them they could only muster 12 points it was it's an embarrassment to tr and uh they end up losing in the final seconds I thought the game was over yada yada yada um we we we sit there and we I'm thinking the game's cooked there's like 17 seconds left and what what happens uh ston Bennett sidearms a touchdown pass to win the game 13 to 12 so uh to pontificate to put a nice little pin in the trey Lance Saga of how Terri this guy is uh to not score any touchdowns on 41 passing attempts he's he's garbage guy's trash um shout out to everybody in here in chat uh on YouTube in the live stream uh Chef XU you know friend of the show ambassador of the program what's up Chef XU followed up by Flava Jay the homie the guy uh member in the house what's up flavor J Raphael in here as well miss Ecentric gnome what's happening Raul says can we please cut white and Skyler soon bring back tanah hill and that's what we're going to get into here directly John featherland in the house telling everybody to hit the like button please guys if you're watching hit the like button please dolphiner in the hood 72 undefeated says too much of a threat to Tua we've seen Tua with competition Pro Bowl not great that's a interesting argument and we'll peel back the layers of that here directly um to aide AKA uh uh uh Michael K in in the House member in here yo L crappy tan what's up buddy um war time what's up wartime 561 what is good dog I'm from the 561 myself as you know um Finn's take with CB 83 I don't know who that is I don't know who that guy is what's up what's Su CB Marino's goat in here what's going on Marino's goat Greg Neil hello Greg make sure you're hitting the like button he says hell yeah tanah Hill is an option I still have the Jersey hey nothing like would he take his same number back right no he can't because jayen Wadd wears his number now so um David and glacius what's up David salute and uh everybody yeah smash the like button subscribe turn on the notification Bell be here when we go live um I want to get back to uh 72s comment here saying too much of a threat Tua now let's let's let's get into that right there could be an argument to be made what's up I see you in here D um there can be an argument to be made that uh Tua thrives better in a controlled environment where there's not someone bearing down on his job right that being said could could a Ryan tanah hill come in here and really compete with tu a Tong of AOW at this juncture been with the offense going on a couple years now third year in the offense has chemistry with the weapons um Ryan tenh Hill is a uh you know a professional and since leaving the Dolphins was had far far way better success than um than uh uh than he did here in Miami he had great success with the Titans coming up short but you know is that attributed to Derrik Henry the weapons and let's let's not act like tanah Hill is brand new and if tanah Hill is so good why is he still available right plus and I I see uh Paul Paul gron here saying yeah dude the guy's got a mega deal like to me you can bring in anybody you want you could draft a rookie I'm getting paid I know I'm the starter there's no way unless Tua is absolutely terrible at his job in comparison to a rookie or Ryan tanah Hill um that he would push Tua out the way is it unfathomable no it is a possibility we live in a a universe of multiple possibilities to think that it's a likelihood not so much right um we gotta really think about we gotta really think about what's the situation for the Dolphins and I'm here okay is Ryan tanah Hill being suggested to the Miami Dolphins as a purely hate Tua agenda I I'm I'm wondering about this right I'm I'm really wondering because I I mean look we're we're married now with tu a Tong of Loa what we gave him the promise ring and now we're married we we we've we've bought a house we bought a car we're we're we're expecting you know what I'm saying he's got all the money and control the finances and for the foreseeable future we have uh hitched our wagon to two aong of aloa but on that same flip side are you telling me that you're still in the DMS of your ex Ryan tanah Hill is that what you that what's going on here H is that what is that is is that is that what we're doing now is that I I don't know I mean I I see the logic right I see the logic because you know Skyler Thompson up until that you know after that interception he was looking rough right and after the interception there was a lot of drop passes um Mike Mike White I don't I don't want I'm over Mike White I was over him when we got him personally um and I remember when we got Mike White and kept Skyler Thompson and people in the fan base myself included was not opposed to bringing in competition for Tua um because that's what I think you need to do right you everybody else has got to compete but you could bring in a number one overall draft picked corner I'm talking first pick in the draft corner and put him on the Miami Dolphins best corner to come out everybody oh my God Miami knocks out of the park would anyone in in this fan base go oh he's going to take Ramsay's job no nobody would say that they'd be like oh man can't wait till he's right next to ramsy anybody else behind Ramsay is in trouble right I get it there's more than one corner on there but it's it's just weird there's there's depth in all position groups and there's even depth in a quarterback group but for some weird reason we're not allowed to have competition in the quarterback room now when I was younger and watching it a little bit I understood that hey you're paying a quarterback big money no need to bring in competition for that quarterback because you have the answer what I would like to bring in is a guy to be you know competing obviously but a backup but when have we had our answer around here in Miami back when we had Dan right only until now do I think we actually have a perceptive answer now that could I could fall by the wayside in the next year two or three and we could go wow we made a mistake signing Tua but as of this moment I don't think that's the case so let's let's think about it here what's up everybody coming in chat hit the like button please I I just here's the other part of that coin is it hate from the people wanting to bring TOA in and then on the flip side those that fear to a having competition that Ryan tanah Hill could show him up because to me if you brought Ryan tanah Hill in he's got no shot to show Tua up at all but the Dolphins for far too long since losing Dan Marino has missed every single chance and opportunity to have a quarterback and have real competition going back to when we drafted Ryan ill and Matt Moore was was beloved and I mean listen I thought Ryan ill should have sat and Matt Moore should have started and it was painfully apparent that they were gonna push Matt Moore aside and give the job to Ryan tanah Hill and let's face it nothing earned nothing given and not earned is ever worth it right and to illustrate that point when Ryan ill left to Tennessee he was the backup to Marcus Mariota and beat him out eventually for poor play with Marcus Mariota and won the starting job and was a better quarterback for it see what I'm saying could he do that here in Miami I would say the likelihood is not but if you guys are DieHard Tua fans and you're scared of competition or scared of having someone behind Tua for the sole fact that oh he's our starter let's not act like this last season wasn't his first year of being fully healthy I mean that's the facts that's the facts and I I I don't you know I don't foresee any reason to believe that that isn't going to that Trend isn't going to continue outside of the concussions which that still worries me but we've paid him I like him it's it's our dude right but we gotta we gotta protect the football team we can't allow one guy to go down and that's it we're done Tyreek Hill goes down for the season the season ain't over Tu Tong Vala goes down for the season The Season's kind of over and that that is a fact right but a scenario on Ali's show last night was talked about um shout out to ali uh who's hanging in the back if you want to come up anytime Ali it's cool if not I can solo it no worries but uh you know what if the Dolphins are 9- one after week 10 what if it's week 11 and they're 10- one and goes down and he's going to be down for you know x amount of time but might make it back to the playoffs right we're in no situation to you know hope that Skyler Thompson can get it done we got to go ahead and just do what's right for the football team and get somebody in there that can get us into the playoffs that could you know be an option to stay competitive throughout the playoffs till Tua potentially could come back from said injury right I mean Ali thanks for coming up but uh am I wrong here because I know there's plenty of people no tanah Hill no no nobody right like I don't like that that's um I don't know if tanah Hill is the answer but there's evidence that our backups are so bad that even in the role of a backup which the just to be clear for people in the audience the backup is not a per perent solution if your first starter quarterback goes down he is just there for an intern period of time to be a Band-Aid until you get your what would be your long-term solution for the rest of the season right but our backups are so bad that I think the tanah hill talk really is an overreaction because of it that that's just my opinion because let's be real I don't I don't think tan Hill even on his best day can even hold hold tu's coffee when Tu is on the field he can't even hold his water bottle bro this guy tan hill tanah hill in my opinion is so overhyped and in even the people that were fans of him because I was a fan at one point they're blinded to the reality of what type of quarterback he is and what he'll actually bring um do think he could be a okay decent backup yeah I think he can do better than the the two guys we have to be honest but beyond that that's all he is is a backup even if Tua were to go down I don't see tanah Hill being the long-term solution for the rest of the season right I see tanah Hill just being the backup which I expect him to be right to hold us for a game or two until that long-term POS person is brought in that's just my opinion uh agreed and and listen here's the thing right uh one of the main jobs of a backup is to help the starter and that's being the eyes on the sidelines telling him what he thinks also getting you know uh uh helping out the the backup dudes to stay on top like there's a lot of details that have to go into being a backup I don't think Mike White or uh Skyler Thompson are doing of that stuff for Tua if anything Tua is probably having to coach these guys up for lack of a better example to me at least at the very minimum Ryan Tan Hill as a backup can come in with a little bit of long-term tenured wisdom of the league you know what I'm saying understanding the coaches understanding stuff like that I don't know if I I would consider Ryan tenah Hill a cerebral guy but not at all I don't you know what I'm saying but again here's the thing Tua is paid the big bucks I mean he's he's one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL uh per capita making 53 million a year he's on Lock Stock and Barrel with the contract and the money that he's getting guaranteed over the next three seasons no matter what tanah hill three years from now will not be in the NFL book it okay so for all these people that are scared because that's what it is you're scared to have a guy that fans could potentially fall in love with and clamor for if Tua plays poorly and me I don't think there's any amount of clamoring that could happen for by the fans that would waver the uh uh coaching staff's decision to keep Tua in over whoever right so it to me it's got to be I don't know now if it's a financial thing and tanah Hill wants x amount of money and it's cheaper I'm I'm cool with something like that I'm also cool with drafting a quarterback next year in you know one of these middle rounds that's a guy you can you know has the attributes a little bit of raw uh has some has some talent that can be brought up in this system over the next couple of years to to uh uh uh be a a solid backup you know what I'm saying a guy um there also is something to say me interrupt you but Jose Valdez has a point uh Tua was the most sacked quarterback during his tenure year so if we're Gill you mean tan yes oh yeah yeah he might have PTSD uh to come here you know what I'm saying that that that might be true he might not want to be again it's again the fans across social media are clamoring to bring tanah Hill back because he's a free agent to get rid of the backup quarterback backs because of how poorly they've played so let's that's why we're addressing it right and for those that don't tell H stop it quit being a crybaby I do think in the long term I think that Miami needs to bring in quarterbacks in every draft yeah I I think we do like that sixth and seventh round one of those picks has to be a quarterback every year um I think that's the only way you're really going to develop your your backups without having to continuously spend uh money or or make trades and whatnot for this season though this season we really need to be all in the Miami Dolphins have made a lot of moves that kind of suggest that they're all in um on this this is a three-year window for sure and um what I'll say I mean with the exception of maybe one position which is the guard position in my opinion um that's really the only position outside of the backup quarterback position that is kind of concerning um everything else we have players we have made Investments we have depth um and uh I I feel very confident it's just the backup quarterback position I yeah we do need to do something and I think that if you bring in tanah Hill I'm not afraid of it you mentioned it earlier and I made comment in PRI private chat that you said that um it said that when we bring in competition uh for Tua that he's going to falter because of the competition but I would argue that I don't think he's ever ever seen competition to be honest well I would say in Alabama he did and he Alabama but we're talking about here in with his tenure with the dolphins the Miami Dolphins have consistently never brought competition in when they draft a quarterback which I think has been failure of the organization for some time and they they need to to me right like next year's Joe Milton that's a guy you bring in in the fourth round right a guy that falls has athleticism has some arm strength and can you mold him in this system at the very very minimum right with drafting guys you find a way to take a third fourth fifth sixth round pick guy and in limited action with the preseason and may be some relief time and some you know uh uh uh banged up two a games that has to come in you could then flip that guy for a second round pick or or higher I don't know you know what I'm say like there's got to be some some uh uh market trading going on here you get you get something low you you invest in it low with low money you you build it up overtime and then flip it right there's got to be a little bit of that going on as well and I just in in the years to come with Tua under this massive deal that's going to keep him here I expect the Dolphins to start bucking that Trend that they've been on about drafting quarterbacks while one's under contract um because right now I the back if Tua goes down the season is shot it's shot and get it that's typically the case when you're paying a guy an assload of money but it don't make don't don't don't do that just don't let's go ahead let's you know I don't think anything can be done and I personally am not interested in signing Ryan tanah Hill right now because I don't think he makes a much difference between him and Skyler Thompson Andor Mike White uh I could be wrong maybe it's a game and a half difference over a 10 sample size let's say I mean you you're not in any rush to do that right now you don't need to be rushed we have money so money really is not really a concern at this point in addition to that um there's options out there I mean there's options in a sense you look at we we could if two of you know I'm knocking on wood this doesn't happen but let's say he goes down you could go get uh what's his name what's his face from the Rams the guy that we always thought we were going to going to get way back when anyways Jimmy G you could you could trade for Jimmy G you could trade for I could argue that um that Seattle still doesn't really know what their long-term solution at quarterback is they have a guy named Sam Howell that they they got they they brought in we could trade for him you know what I mean there's options out there that we could still take advantage of to um sorry my kids crying here you know to do something we don't have to necessarily pay Ryan tanah Hill is basically what I'm saying yeah I got you um and and you you said something there that's going to get us to our next point when you say trade and uh shout out to everybody again in chat hit the like button shib Army in here Jermaine Hog Wild fishing Mighty Zayn what's happening Jose uh uh em I seen creeping around in here black boy all right what's good hit the like button uh everybody rul what's good hit the like button guys so let's not pivot to the next point of [Music] conversation talk about trade right and there was a trade done today that I don't know I I've got concerns about the center position I've got concerns at the guard positions now I get it that in the preseason sample size I and you would you heard me yesterday say I liked what I seen and to me Butch Barry being around here if he says he's good I got to take him at his word because homie is killing it the o line coach but damn Jose killed you Ali goes Ali even your kid doesn't want to hear this tanah hill BS got you dog anyhow um so a trade happened and this is is going to be two topics on this uh Nick Harris was traded out of Seattle um the trade he was traded back to the Browns where he was originally playing they traded him in a seventh round pick for the Browns sixth round pick in next year's draft and as as I sit here with a offseason signing in Aaron Brewer who is still listed you know having a some kind of injury I know it's on his hand uh I I think everybody says is dumb I don't know who gives a [ __ ] right the guy has had nicked up early in Camp he's nicked up now later in Camp I I'm not feeling it I haven't been feeling the Aaron Brewer Center offseason signing since the jump now could I be wrong could he start could he play all 17 games and be dominant maybe right I got it dang em blocked you on Twitter probably deservingly so honestly I don't blame him um my point is is that how in such a low you know seventh sixth round swap were the dolphins not in on this how did we not go get this guy and another thing begs the question too Seattle trading away a center I don't know what their depth chart is right now but but Conor Williams was signed to Seattle is Conor Williams timetable much further along now at this point is Conor Williams gonna be the starter in Seattle and if he is did we miss a massive I think he signed for like three million bucks how did we not go get him six screw making the trade for this guy six million so six mil all what we goton right now I agree it was nothing mean what the hell dude how do we not go get Conor Williams who has obviously taken Nick Harris job at the minimum at this point why isn't Conor Williams here why did we let this happen why we know Conor Williams we know he's good I know Drew rosenhouse who represents him has said multiple times that Conor wants to be back in Miami why did we make this happen I'm gonna be pissed if I'm looking at Seattle with Conor Williams under Center being back to what he was before the injury I'm GNA be pissed let's also not forget uh lcap that prior to him being really injured he wanted top dollar and if you look at if you look at our philosophy of offensive line we're playing money ball right why is everybody else is on hey I got a I got a you know Black Card let let me go ahead and Skyrocket my bill that that's what they're doing and with us we're playing Moneyball we're you know making really lowbudget you know players play Above their means and I don't think they want to move away from that philosophy so even if you brought him back let's say he gets back to where he was what's going to stop him from asking for that top dollar again I mean in a one-year sample size I don't really give a damn right six Bill one year I'll figure it out next year I get it that Aaron Brewer is going to be here you know up to like three years I guess I don't know but I mean dang dog what's up tone hit the like button dog checking in from New York salute buddy um why why why how we F to not have to do that like I don't see how if Conor Williams is gonna play this year and us having you know I don't want to say injury problems with Aaron Brewer but I I'm not I don't I don't have a lot of faith the guy personally that it's going to work out in the end like we found our next Conor Williams where he's been the good center right like I don't see that or or I don't I don't I could be wrong but an insurance policy of a six million dollar of a Conor Williams a guy you know to have backing him up would have been nice would have been nice I mean damn Conor Williams just played guard could had him out there as guard let me ask this question lcap because this this Theory came up uh in a discussion that I was in and I don't know how you feel about it I don't think there's much to this Theory and I I kind of feel like it's it's not even an issue but I just curious if you notice the teams that he was closely linked to after you know when he he said he would you know he was going to be able to play and you know he started getting linked to teams did you notice they were all Northern teams it was like Chicago um Seattle and there was another Northern team that he was linked to is there there people are trying to tell me that he's he has an issue with the Miami Heat is that is that real do do you think that's real at all I mean I'll tell you what if that's the case then screw him like quit being a [ __ ] dog like for real are you serious about I thought about it he played in Texas with Dallas but then again Dallas plays indoors it's it's different you know what I mean so I'm wondering if that's a thing what's up Jess I see you in chat hey hey hey um yeah you know what uh I hadn't heard that if that's the case the good riddance dog right like but I don't know I mean after all the surgeries I would imagine that cold weather hurt more than that South Florida heat right yeah I would agree with it I don't know I just don't if he really wanted to be here he would have found a way to make it work even with getting paid so that's why I don't the thing he didn't get paid it's not big money and uh here's the thing dude like the Dolphins were out on him Drew Rosen house said it he's like dolphins you know sign Brewer they're done they went and signed him now I get it it was significantly earlier on in the free agent process well let's not act like the guy didn't sit there up until what like three four weeks ago when he signed with with Seattle like I don't know man again when I see when I see a trade from a center out of the team that he just signed up to I look at two missed opportunities one getting Conor Williams back here as a backup Andor a guard who's to say he couldn't be one of the guards that's number one number two the center that got traded out Nick Harris why didn't we go get that now I do wonder about this now one of the one of the guys that we let go um Ireland Brown was a uh uh mini camp inite he got let go but a guy I seen playing Center in the preseason game Andrew Meyer he uh he he played a lot in that preseason game that's the UTEP guy he's 63 uh almost 300 lbs he played a lot and played well again preseason football right he's not he's not going up against the top tier tackles obviously MH but I'm going to be watching Andrew Meyer a guy that I had off my radar to making the 53 man roster I looked at him as a guy that would be a practice squad thing but with the concerns I have about Aaron Brewer at Center uh you know durability concerns and all that stuff the Dolphins have to be thinking of M themselves they need to have depth we do know leam mikenberg is the depth piece at Center we know that but I don't know like if Liam mikenberg is your starting left guard or Right Guard or whatever he's slotted at um in the depth chart are you really gonna slide him over and be down to your you know you're you're now you're now rather than having one player be the backup guy in the game now you've got the backup center and the backup left right left or right guard you see what I'm saying like there I don't know where we're going to end up when it comes to this but there's got to be some sort of method to Madness I I don't I again I'm not privy to everything that goes on I we're we're privy to a lot around here but I don't know what people are thinking right like my psychic skills don't work I gotta you know I don't know eat more mushrooms or something to get those back but uh just an interesting turn of events really with this Center situation and Connor Williams and uh you know what is really going on in this m and uh I don't know Ali I I talked about this earlier Trey Lance probably the worst probably gonna go down in history as the biggest bust of all time right goodness gracious yeah I I don't know bro I mean Demarcus Russell to be honest was one of the biggest bu but didn't cost three first round picks though to get him that's true that's true the the three first round picks damn dude to get a guy that can't even get a touchdown in a [ __ ] PRI he can't even break 200 yards on a 100 on 41 attempts dude like what a bum and I I remember looking at him and thinking yeah he's got talent but I I don't I don't see how he's a first rounder right I everybody thought he was gonna be the next Josh Allen that that you know small school Big Arm got Mobility he's gonna translate just to be clear because CB 83 does make a point that all the backup QBs all the backup QBs 83 anyway that's besides the point but the the the what I want to make clear is that backup quarterbacks are not going to be generally as good as your starter right you're not gonna it's not going to be in comparison however that sounds like some stuff TD 83 would there dog however and this is the big however is the fact that your backup quarterback when he's playing against third and fourth stringers he should be able to put something together that's where I'm where I'm at in our quarterback backs backup quarterbacks didn't seem to be able to do that you know what I mean and that for me that's my biggest concern so I'm still in in the thought process that we do need to look at bringing somebody else in as a backup I don't know if it's Ryan tanah Hill I don't know I wouldn't go as far as him but we got to look at somebody that's that's basically where I'm at I look whatever I I don't really care the thing that that sucks is is that with two with two backup quarterbacks and both not taking the backup job in preseason one it's I gotta I gotta think that uh dude I don't want to carry three quarterbacks on my roster that's really what it comes down to me bottom line to me I value I know you don't have to but the Dolphins have the last couple of years and I don't want that you know the new rule though right you're third quarterback doesn't count towards your 53 it does at the 53 man roster cuts it does I don't think so dude I thought yeah it definitely it definitely does because if you look at the 53 man roster last year there was three quarterbacks on that 53 that means 50 other players makes well 48 because one's a well no 47 one's a one's a Long Snapper one's a kicker and one's a punter so 48 or 47 players left have to make up your football team and to me that one extra guy is the storm duck right that one extra guy is Patrick McMorris or or Marcus may like that's true point you see what I'm saying like this is super that one extra guy could be Chris Brooks that I'm gonna have [ __ ] Skyler Thompson Andor Mike White as the third quarterback guys that are never gonna see the field uh God willing that's that's where my brain is at when I'm when I'm when I'm being critical of everything that I got to think about other position groups that one dude is so good that he's not gonna clear waivers somebody is gonna pick and I got I'm gonna lose talented player on my football team for Mike [ __ ] white no I'm not doing that I say get rid of them both go get somebody else go call up Nick Foles ass see if he'll come here or something like that I would rather that be the case where I know I got a decent backup even though it might push two amongst the fans you [ __ ] and uh whatever I don't give a damn because I need that 53rd roster spot for one of these other position groups I just went through a whole thing about how I'm so concerned with Center depth right give me a backup center for that 53rd roster spot give me give me the the backup safety give me the uh that the BL s right I'm sorry that's messed up Jose Jose is on one right now he's on your neck [ __ ] Ali Jose and Chad on YouTube is on your neck trust me I don't I don't want Ryan Tan Hill either man I uh I think there's other options to be honest um but we do need to make a move I just don't I don't think he's the dead ass if Patrick McMorris doesn't make the 53 and Mike White does I'm gon flip this [ __ ] table though I'm G flip I'm gonna flip this I'm like what the hell espe with If he if he puts out the same performance for the next two preseason games bro I'm sorry there's no question he has to be on the roster I'll tell you what the Dolphins should do right carrye one quarterback on your 53 man roster Tua and take those other two spots that you had counted for quarterbacks last year and keep Patrick MCM Morris and storm duck [ __ ] him right or or somebody else I don't know that's what I think we should do get him up out of here the Skyler Thompson experiment listen Skyler's got a live arm in a pro style offense pushing the ball down the field and and and trying to find you know guys in the second level or dudes in the flat I think he's really good at that I think he has a little bit of a velocity control problem but in a timing based speed uh Mike McDaniel schemed offense he hasn't been performing the way we need this perform it looks to me as if we would have to adjust play calling for that quarterback and that is pointless to me it's pointless it hasn't translated the now maybe maybe preseason game two will show differently right but I'm not GNA want to see Skyler Thompson come in in the third quarter against the backup backups guys that aren't going to make rosters in the NFL and torch them and think to myself oh well you know may Skyler's the guy now Skyler comes in in the first half and and has a whole new rebirth and puts up 300 yards in the first half three tutes all right but as of right now Skylar's on my [ __ ] list Mike White you don't you're so shitty I don't even put you on my list bro that's the facts Mike White is not on the football team to me and I don't I don't hate the guy you know what I'm saying but I would rather give that spot to a young guy in a position group that I need depth in that's how I look at it it's a business transaction it's it's a serve me first as a freaking as a fan as a as a football organization we can't be worried about people's feelings and there's way too many of you out here all up in your Fields crying about this crying about that y'all [ __ ] stupid bro y'all dumb y'all be watching that td3 too much all up in his feelings sitting there let ready to have a tear roll down his face and [ __ ] while he's talking about Tua I wish he was my dad I know you bro let's get out of here so that's it that's all I got D that's all I got to say about that oh man 103 to 47 and we disson Skyler if Tua didn't score those 47 points in the last three games where would we be the [ __ ] are you talking about ali I'm I'm missing with G's putting down GE love you bud are you talking about we got outscored 103 to 47 in the last three games that what you're saying I'm not sure I think he's talking about the score differential Jose Valdez says Skynet just went to just like Terminator 2 has been disconnected and eliminated I would say instead of eliminated you should have put terminated right yeah I see that G right um again sure last three games in a bad sample size your point is there do I think Skyler Thompson would have come in and put up better numbers than Tua no not right now no I don't think so I don't no not in this offense if the Dolphins had pivoted and was doing a pro style offense that was more in the likings of a guy like Skyler Thompson maybe but that's just not what we're doing around here bro it's not and it's really it's a symphony of football and I don't really like it to be honest with you guys uh I am not a fan of finesse football teams I'm not a fan of you know all this we're gonna outthink everybody and throw in these Tight Windows in zone and you know force them into Zone coverage and have them stack the line for the Run game in which case then opens up the pass I get it right that all that all sounds fine and dandy until the other team has a superstar safety or a superstar linebacker that's just cracking heads all over the middle of the field then all that [ __ ] goes right out the [ __ ] window it does and it usually shows up at the end of the season when those guys are still hitting as hard as they were week one and your guys have been hit the last 12 14 weeks again and again and again and it's just a little too sore right it's just a little bit too much to take that type of beating so because of that I've never been a big fan of finesse football teams but For Better or For Worse that's what we got now that's what we are and in a finesse football team type of thing um with the short pass game and the Run game and stuff you then get opportunities you find matchups on the outside that you like with safety not over the top or shaded to the wrong side and you're like ah wd's got homie over there that's playing inside leverage if WD hits him on this double move and I see I see the back of the CB I already know that that uh uh I see CB 883s back turned to Waddle out there on the boundary I know that safety ain't going to be able to come across the field in time if I air this [ __ ] out 30 yards down the field and he's going to catch it so there is those opportunities but all in all um you know look I don't know bro whatever whatever that's all I got dude whatever y'all could sit here with your love for finesse football I I uh give me good old fat clanging and banging dude cracking domes it's like Mike Tyson said everybody got a plan until they get punched in the [ __ ] mouth bro that's how I feel about football all that [ __ ] is flashy spreading the ball out you're dicing them up da d da you start clacking fools everybody gets a little bit less you like that hat Jimmy I've had this for a minute now dog it's a good good Richard says how about Zack Wilson after he gets cut actually that wouldn't be the worst scenario right I don't really like Zach Wilson I don't really like his game but as far as can they make him a system quarterback as a backup to Tua I can see how that could fit right I don't know is Zack Wilson smart enough to figure it out yeah I tell you what he could take a beating seeing him take a beating out there bro um I don't know Colin what's good guy squid gang Colin what do you think Patrick Mahomes playing in the preseason game already El Cap I was shook I think uh I don't know man I guess that's the the Chief's Way right which is kind of illustrating the point I just made about teams being tough rather than being finesse Patrick Mahomes who played throughout the entirety of the playoffs didn't have a first round buy won the Super Bowl had you know literally the most time spent last year the the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes playing football than any team that includes the ners they had a first round bu and is playing in the first preseason game that's should tell you everything you need to know about the difference between the Dolphins finesse football team and Veteran rest days and trying to protect players Health versus to health be damned be tougher and I'm not thinking that they they don't care about player Health in in Kansas City but toughness is priority and this is football toughness should be priority it should be that's it toughness should be the priority nothing else execution obviously but toughness bro it's a it's a gladiator Warrior it is the modernday Gladiator we got to have gotta be the meanest team just go back and watch old [ __ ] Ravens Ray Lewis out there with Ed Reed they take the spirit out of teams bro the Dolphins took the spirit out of a couple teams last year with that highflying offense but I I haven't seen the Dolphins take the spirit out of another team on physicality since I can't remember when I can't I I maybe there was some times I don't know if it was a physicality uh that Brian flores's defense had on people I think it was more just a shock at all that a bunch of dudes nobody knew was kicking your ass at times scoring points on you but uh we need a we need a physicality to this football team we do that's what we need bro that's what we need Ali that's what I think we haven't since Zach scorpions things we haven't had a physicality since Zach left the building and we kind of had it still we had a uh a little bit with with Jason Taylor but not like not like when we had Jason and Zach together right Zach Thomas just put the fear of God and [ __ ] in the middle of the field bro where's that at I agree with bringing the physicality back we do need it back um I don't want to say that it's not back yet because there's players that we haven't seen play yet and I think they're going to bring some of that physicality you're looking for back to be honest um but I do agree that on the offensive line I need to see more physicality I I prefer to have offensive guards that throw people around and a center that's not going to get hurt you know um that's personally what I like that's kind of something I do miss for Conor Williams you know that's something he brought that I really do miss to be honest yeah true that and we're going to miss that with Robert hunt too Robert hunt was physical as hell yeah yeah that's a good good that's a good example definitely I don't know man it's just dude AJ McCarron is still playing football he's in the [ __ ] XFL he's actually decent in the XFL to beon of course he's decent XFL but [Music] godamn go get his ass dog as a backup man uh I wouldn't I wouldn't mind because he does play with something that I was trying to talk about last night and that's heart um like I I want a guy personally that is like the backup for the Bengals man um you know who I'm talking about oh dude uh that other not um um dude I love Jake Jake Browning Jake Browning yes go get me Jake Browning bro give me that of a backup and I'm go I'm set bro I just need that serious bro I like Jake Browning I like how he plays football I like how he dude if I if that guy was available get him if by some reason because he was the third quarterback on the depth chart they've got that other Allen behind um Whatchamacallit uh burrow there he was the third guy in the dep chart if that guy gets cut which I doubt it I would cut that Allen dude 10 times over [ __ ] Browning right now if I was the Bengals but if he gets cut go get him cut whatever [ __ ] bubble guy you got to to grab his ass at 53 man roster Cuts because I think he's got a little bit of something in there and I don't know how he would fit in this scheme but if he could adjust it any bit into this scheme that's a solid backup to hold down to four if Tua gets you know I don't know his finger jammed on his throwing hand and going to be out two three weeks right I don't need Tua pushing through injuries um because I him in the playoffs as healthy as humanly possible that's the facts and in the season if the Dolphins are you know three four games over 500 you know come week seven or eight or whatever and he goes down for two or three games I need a dude to hold down the fort maybe squeak out a game or two right I don't have any faith that Skyler Thompson and Mike White's holding down [ __ ] if Tua goes down they can't hold to his jock right now bro and that's [ __ ] I need I and it's not about competition for Tua which you know we can talk about that later but I definitely definitely need better out of this football team SackMan says bring in Reed setet do he even playing football anymore good Lord let me know in chat guys what who who we bringing in as a backup we're clearing the backups right now everybody gone Who coming in this m gonna help us out who's the backup quarterback you guys want do you want Ryan tanah Hill is there another option Ric Flair hell yeah W damn Raph you're going to get Rick Ric Flair's old ass up in here Don stro God damn it these [ __ ] chat thank you will Levis is the starter scorpion for Tennessee I would like will Levis woo this [ __ ] chat of course they're gonna throw around dumbass names and [ __ ] like yeah bring in uh uh the Ultimate Warrior oh my God that's funny bring in Chris benois ah damn Malik Willis is Malik Willis even available Cleo lemon come on bro Sam Howell all right Sam Howell might be um Sam Howell was a guy that I mentioned earlier I wouldn't mind trading for him he plays for Seattle they have uh Gino Smith over there do they really need a Sam Hall uh yeah they do because Gino Smith Runway is a lot shorter than Sam howls and if I'm if I'm Seattle I'm keeping Sam Howl in there and looking to Pivot to him over freaking uh Gino Smith if if Warren Moon all right word ah damn jeeez thanks for all the great suggestions chat wait a d this [ __ ] chat bro thanks appreciate y'all glad we have the most educated look [ __ ] uh uh Miss eccentric gnome said Goldberg Jeff George Slim Shady from Shak money aka the freaking fans Dusty rhods now we're just naming [ __ ] [ __ ] wrestlers smartest fans on YouTube here at the Fin's tailgate done I got I got two names for you elcap I'm sorry I don't me interrupt you but I got two names okay Garder muu I would consider and because he's a good backup and the other person that I would consider is is um uh Joe flacko old man Joe flacko that's season just for this season actually damn Joe RIS said Baron Trump what the [ __ ] Adam Sandler was a QB yeah he uh he was QB in that um movie uh what was the movie what was the movie color uh with who with the ad Sandler as the quarterback he went to prison it it was a remake from The Bert Reynolds movie oh uh Longest Yard maybe yep thank you Longest Yard thank you um and then uh uh who who said somebody said something um oh Kiana Reeves from The Replacements Raph CJ bethard all right okay that's actually a decent suggestion really I did like the Gardner muu but I don't think Gardner menu is going anywhere he's the back up in Indianapolis still right like every one of these guys are the same as we got we got I got it are they though I don't think so bro I don't think so no know Willie be people are getting I think people are getting way too up in arms over like a preseason game I mean oh no color I think you're not getting in arms enough that's what I think color really y'all really think that it would would have looked different I'm not talking see this is the problem people have when I ask this question everybody's going to imagine all of our starters and the first team playing okay but don't imagine that imagine this imagine Tua was the quarterback the other night with that Personnel to what have torched her ass dog I'm sorry I know it's that that Personnel I still think you know how I know it's not true you know how it's know it's not true because our Personnel the other night was the equivalent to the Personnel we had in the last two games last season so uh we saw how that went with t not really because he had Tyreek Hill no but isn't that the excuse we had all these injuries that's the excuse by some people not the excuse from me the offense failed us at the end of last season not the inj well the offense failed us the other night well I mean we did win but yes you're right offensive the quarterbacks failed us the other night uh and I will say this be any different maybe a little different later R I don't know man um I just don't see how like other than somebody like a a veteran that's been deep like flacko or I don't see how any of these guys that have been listed are any different than what we got Skyler did have like six or seven drop footballs right and there is drop footballs for Skyler remember I count everything color I it's the OCD it makes me count everything I've been counting this whole time um I don't have OCD uh yeah you know what I mean I'm not trying to Hype up Skyler and Mike White I'm simply saying all of these names that everybody has on their mind is no different the end results no different our season's over right because all I've heard all day today is two is the only one that can run this system well if that's the case what does it matter it matters that in the couple game samples that I might need someone to hold it down color that's why nobody believes they can well again also to that say a person can't say two is the only one that can run this system the I think this guy over here can hold it down for a couple games well if they can't run this okay so you're saying two is the only person on Earth that can do this on Earth yes that's what that's the only thing I've heard on Earth they're [ __ ] [ __ ] cuz go look at Brock P running a absolutely similar style system is not available though I got you but to say he's the only person on Earth I could say Allah Brock py you're a liar so not you but the person saying that color out of the people that are available left on Earth to is the only one uh Baker Mayfield could probably run the system tell them that there tell them that um I would say that there's several quarterbacks trying to run this system and having varying successes from high school to the NFL I disagree with you for those people saying two is the only person that could throw balls to Tyreek Hill you're a [ __ ] dumbass well I'm just simply saying what the narrative is if the if it wasn't the narrative we would already have a sufficient backup look people Tua got the bag Tua is here for the long haul you don't have to sit there and make up you know things that he can't throw to anybody but Tyreek Hill anymore you don't have to do that [ __ ] anymore right um what I don't understand says so there's only one name we should even really be talking about and that's Ryan tanah Hill um I think uh scorpion sting I've a guy that watches the Big 10 uh because I'm a big Ohio State fan I've watched all you know pretty much a lot of games of tua's brother nowh compared to do it um oh no not even close he's more he's more mobile but he doesn't have the arm or the accuracy um he's he's kind of like a a Justin Fields quarterback on to two different teams tryouts and hasn't made a team yet yeah yeah yeah that's I mean listen here's here's the other thing about the backup quarterback right which if you're paying a guy a lot of times I like to have like a a veteran in there right because that's that that that that bestowed knowledge that's why Joe Flaco to me is very interesting because here here's a guy I know can hold it down for a couple games here's a guy that I know is in the ear of my starting quarterback giving him sound advice here's a guy that when he's running practices knowing will pick up an offense know how to pick up the lingo know how to be a professional and know how to get the guys that are practicing behind the starters on the second team ready for football that's that's what we're missing right now because when I look at Skyler and I look at Mike White and I think of the system we're running I don't see them operating it in any way shape and form shading what Tua does with this offense it looks different and it it's is that really the game plan Tua goes down we pivot the style of offense that's a piss poor game plan it isn't in the sense that that's kind of what happens right Tua goes down it can't play the rest of the half you put the backup in you have them air this [ __ ] out right but if you're gonna come in the following week and go against an opponent that's going to watch Skyler and go all right well [ __ ] do this and do that if they run that system we'll see if he can do it and he can't you know what I'm saying now you're now you're just figuring [ __ ] out or you're just flying by the seat of your pants I don't need that in my life this team has invested everything in this football organ in this team we have currently right now we got we gotta come up with a serious name cap Alexander is about to jump off the cliff dude Alexander's uh Alexander just suggestion that they should put me in as backup yeah not me put in color you know what Alexander the problem with that statement is you're not wrong yeah color can I would literally make the fan base feel the same way as anybody else we brought in uh uh listen color can sling the [ __ ] out of the rock he's Allah Joan color and uh you guys could see that [ __ ] if you come and hang out with them at the at the games so myself I'm not a very good quarterback and I'm an even worse wide receiver but you put me in that linebacker or running back I'll [ __ ] make some moves dog yeah I can't throw the ball bro I can play defense I can definitely tackle and I play Corner in in high school so yeah yeah the only other alternative is looking for some third guy at a team that's currently on another team that ain't G to make their squad but again what are we talking about we're talking about like I'd rather keep what we got oh is on it dude I agree we should have drafted hooker last year bro or or rler this year I would have been fine with both of those guys as backups or how about Milton how about Milton the the Patriots take two quarterbacks and they still I said Milton too dog I said Milton earlier here here's the thing that you have to remember though like where did Milton and rler get drafted that's right they were fourth rounders if I recall correctly that means if I have to pick a backup quarterback versus a star running back I'm picking the star running back I'm sorry I get it right I get it but like at some I'll tell you what how about the E draft with uh [ __ ] Channing everyone else everyone else that I can't remember from that [ __ ] draft the worst draft I've seen in a long time from Miami uh you should have got somebody then right draft was absolutely absolutely garbage bro oh my God I will never forgive for that no that was terrible draft and uh I know Channing Tindle had a sack in the preseason game but that's not what I remember I saw the sack great free coming free rusher you better get the sack and he did but uh I mean you guys are we [ __ ] liability you guys are forgetting that we did bring in another quarterback we've already cut him about the udfa [ __ ] from UTEP that nobody my point is like we didn't like he never even saw any action of course he didn't see any action the guy literally is the fourth quarterback on a depth chart because we've got guys like Skyler and uh Mike White the only reason he was brought in was for rookie mini camp to be the only quarterback there throwing footballs they brought another guy in from South Florida some high school guy throwing footballs around I can't remember his name I got you but what what I'm asking is how is that any different but how is that well you all what you just said there how is that any different than what the fans already feel about Skyler and Mike White A Feeling Again here all right color now I'm gonna set this well if we're in our feelings that's what we're in because that's the [ __ ] I'm trying to stop color tired of these [ __ ] in their goddamn feelings about Tanana Hill or [ __ ] uh uh uh Baker Mayfield or whom ever [ __ ] quarterback I suggest as a back I wasn't in my feelings until everybody else got me in my feelings about you're playen to the feelings of these [ __ ] pleaes and I ain't gon to do it [ __ ] these [ __ ] personally personally quarterback play was the last thing on my mind the other night they're the ones that got me in my feelings color oh okay they are kind of in their feelings aren't they a little bit I'll tell you what color tell them how you really feel that's what I want I want turn up color [ __ ] getting in on their asses right now godamn it I just don't understand why everybody's like I mean can't see what's right in front of their face man it's like it's preseason like when if either of these guys well Mike White has with the Jets but when have either of these guys been the number one quarterback all week with a real game plan not vanilla pre-season not we're handing the ball off to Jaylen Wright for half the game none of that turn up color tell every single starter we have on our team is in Street close every single one it's not as if Skyler or Mike even had uh uh uh pieces of of good players on their offensive line the offensive line and protection wasn't the problem I would say I would say the drops are more of a problem than the o line point is nobody on that field was a number one guy nobody and if you think okay we might have scored 27 instead of 20 if Tua was there and if you think that we're we were going to put up 40 points in a preseason game with those players and all you do is change out the quarterback for Tua you're freaking Delirious now if you want to trade out everything like your already doing in your mind then yes we would have destroyed that team the other night with our first team but we wouldn't have done it with that Squad and two a a quarterback no different than we would have had with Mike White or Skyler the other night and if you think we would have then you fundamentally aren't watching what you're looking like you literally aren't taking it for what it is a vanilla preseason game and you can you can go through and nitp pick all the mechanics and the well it doesn't matter if it's vanilla because we can see how he throws we can see his decision making we can see all that stuff without it being the first unit yeah which ain't much different than our first guy damn ain't no different than the guys on the list of everybody that's available it just ain't no different I don't even know why the why the debates even happening if there was any debate we would have brought in somebody a long time ago we wouldn't be sitting three weeks before the season after our first preseason game going oh we don't have a backup quarterback so y'all could either trust Chris Greer and Mike McDaniel and the quote unquote process or you can get up all up in arms about our backup quarterback and and like I don't know give yourself hives or something well here's get hives color that's exactly what I'm going to do I'm going to go ahead and get hives because I'm sorry uh this is you know we haven't been in this situation in a long time as dolphin fans and I understand that we you know we're up in air about three you know three weeks before the season start I get that but in this situation we' we've signed our quarterback to a long-term contract we've signed our receivers we've brought in all this depth I just want to put icing on the cake to make sure there's a plan in case [ __ ] don't work that's all and and that's fair all I'm saying is the plan is the same thing it is with Tua the team needs to step up and help the quarterback Allah quit dropping the damn football okay that that I can understand I get that Brandon you know BR what's his name Bran s if we take all this none of this is as bad as we think it is dude I I see what you're saying I get it um when is the team GNA step up for our backup no matter who the backup is the reason the reason our season is over if Tua goes down is because our team won't step up for the backup damn well uh I think what the Dolphins should do is only carry one quarterback on 53 roster Cuts cut both backups and take up both spots for other position groups o line and DBS is where I would I would go with it Coler can I can I ask a question I is there a scenario where maybe the the quarterback regardless if he's the first second or third string quarterback sometimes have to do something to show that you know the team that hey you know I need you know make like entice them to want to step up the way you're talking about you mean like millions of dollars in an NFL contract no I'm not talking about that that's not what I'm talking about like how do I to do that's not what I'm what I'm talking about right sometimes players have to lead and sometimes when they lead right they get players around them to play above the means of what they can right and maybe it's some it could be as little as you know some of the things that that quarterback does behind the scenes not necessarily on the field maybe maybe that let me let land color land maybe that quarterback sky Thompson or Mike White need to start talking more maybe they need to start opening their mouth and saying hey we need to know their feelings color maybe I need to know Mike White SK quiet and sitting down while Tu is taking the lead and they're not they not showing that they deserve the extra play from the other players do you understand what I'm saying Point Ali good point you mean like putting the ball right on the target three times in a row for your receiver to drop yeah maybe they need to step up and start yelling at people color yeah what happens if they do I don't know that's a good question I haven't really seen Skyler or Mike White yell at people before I don't understand why it's incumbent on one man okay when you're talking about a guy that obviously wasn't good enough to be qb1 so yeah all of the stuff you're talking about is probably true Ali that's why it's incumbent upon the team to step up for their back up I don't think any man needs to step up for for anyone other than his damn self dog like that's that's being self-accountable right they need to they need to step up stand on business so the guy so they so Skyler just stands there with his finger up his butt ah maybe maybe that's why he's slinging the rock the way he is got stink finger on that thing well you know what uh all I ever see when Tua goes down is the entire team bailing with little injuries and whatever else oh [ __ ] all I ever see soon as the number one goes down the to the entire team bails yeah they do color's right Tua goes down the whole team's like I don't play for anybody but Tua and and I can even say it don't even have to be the quarterback going down oh the temperature drops below zero and the entire team bails we got a couple injuries going into this playoff game the entire team bails so is that what everybody's been saying all off season now wait a second color the finin man in chat says something tanah Hill is a jinx every QB he backups gets gets [Music] injured see somebody giving me a fair like reason why not like don't even bring tanah Hill near the building go down brast something true fact Dam listen this is Sports Talk I believe in the jins all right uh [ __ ] you tanah Hill F I've heard so far definitely fair player I thought about you were talking about XFL because you brought up McCarron and stuff right there's a player that I actually like and I know he got a try out the Vikings but I don't know what what came about of it Jordan taamu he was the player of the year quarterback for the DC Defenders he played at Old Miss and at Old Miss he looked pretty decent he played in the SEC I actually kind of like him he's very mobile um actually I mean not I I know this is bad to say because I I believe he is uh from um Samoan descent so he kind of he resembles Tua in his play a lot um not trying to you know make a thing of that but I'm just back out of that one dog well well I'm just saying that he he's he looks like a more mobile Tua in my opinion with his style of play oh [ __ ] hell yeah do I have to check I have to check the accuracy that's the only part I I'm not sure of but in XFL he looked pretty decent in the highlights he so here's here's the thing right Dolphins fans alike Tua goes down seasons cooked right right which is why if we were going to choose one or the other Skyler or Mike White I say take Skyler because at least you have to see what this young guy has right all the more reason why I think we should have drafted a young guy to then see what the hell he's got right and uh Jose with the $5 Don says for color yelling at us instead of you meaning me because he Jose had a [ __ ] comment earlier pull it up he goes color you have you have no one to blame but capan himself this is this talk about backup quarterback look at the title of the show for tonight stop yelling at us and yell at him that [ __ ] is funny that [ __ ] is funny broing you know I mean nah you can't yell at me dog I'm too I'm too [ __ ] n Sy I know how to shake a move watch out I know how to get out this [ __ ] I'll blame that [ __ ] right on TD 83 and he'll be yelling at him in chat no time oh my God I wish everybody make up their minds do we care about the backup or not if we care then I care we should have been talking about this months ago I care about the [ __ ] towel boy on this football everything's gotta be elite but but but color at this point there's only two positions on this team that I have question marks at one is guard obviously right and the other one because we thought it would be safety but it really isn't because MC Morris showed up right and we have other players that showed up there so we're okay and the only other position is backup quarterback okay but did you see that left guard did you see the left did you see the left guard last night that gave up a block and got and got Skyler creamed was that trying out for the team man that's what happened it was Jesse Davis no I'm number 71 Keon Smith who got injured oh yeah Smith playing oh man maybe he did play so you said that you said that there's two holes left that that concern you guard and back up quarterback and I think guard may just take care of half of that backup quarterback problem you know there's actually three holes if you want all I'm say what's the third hole never mind I know what you're talking oh man [ __ ] dog well you know what I mean I know what Skyler's shortcomings are the guy is obviously don't have his head his head is like not in it as far as like being a leader all I just think he can I don't think Skyler number one leadership that's number one I don't think Skyler has the ability to operate this offense in that three-step four-step fstep drop in the scheme of that reading it and doing it all in the blink of an eye I don't think he's got that process power so I don't know if he needs to you know go to Intel um free plug to Intel and get upgraded on his processing power or something but damn you know what I'm saying bro to be 100% honest what would comment color by uh by pck n uh what is that trenor Sam Elliot his color sounds like samot be 100% honest color if you grew your hair out and you grew the stash you would look like Sam Elliot bro you grow that [ __ ] Sam Elliot worm stash and you'll be ladies look out look out ladies before though you know like you should grow that [ __ ] out Coler I would like to see that Summer's almost coming getting warm I'll be there in a minute keep going I want to hear it the only one I got right off the top of my head give me something from Tombstone that's what I just did I know but give me like warm come on Wyatt they're breaking the law give me a give me a uh not now Wyatt not now Wyatt yeah when he was shot bleeding his brother's [ __ ] at him he's like God damn it Wy not now [ __ ] yeah all right um out of here how about how about uh the big lowski sometimes the eat the bar sometimes the bar eats you give me that color trouble with doing a Sam Elliott impression is he really doesn't say much in his movies oh my godo's comment color needs to get a job as both an announcer or doing ASMR oh my God yeah well I was thinking about the the Asm is pretty easy to do I just got to figure out a subject I'm interested in yeah and and New Finland yes Mike White and and Skyler Thompson don't seem capable of operating this offense and that's kind of that's kind of where I'm at with it right you know what it is offense has to Pivot to an ideology and a way in which they play the game that's learning two offenses no no no bro bro let let's be real let's be real both quarterbacks are capable that's not the problem the problem is will they have the skill they don't have the will and that's the reality of it you look at you look like you look at Brock pie right that guy had will through the roof he worked so freaking hard right to be ready on day one it showed as soon as they put him into the game never played a snap and then look what happened right you look at guys like you look at the guy like we talked about earlier Browning the guy from uh from the Bengals that guy has massive will bro will in heart we need quarterbacks that have [ __ ] will here that's the problem couple donations coming in here uh Kevin Lee says El capy tan and pan what do you all take on Mike White he looks like crap Tua can't Kanto down be can't go down because remember last Miami is 2 and8 with the backups last four years that's terrible that is you're right one of them guys is on the list is going to make it better than two and eight besid Ryan Tanana Hill um I don't know but Jess uh to the color amsr fund yeah just thinking about color with that sweet sweet voice of his holy [ __ ] I col should I go with the Roman history like yeah do the Roman history 452 ad do it wait colors don't don't stop hold on let I don't have no material just tell me what I'll tell you what col um when the uh Romans got attacked by the um carthaginians and they came up and linked up with The Barbarians across the caucus mountains and invaded look at me [ __ ] knowing my Caesar at the Rubicon you know there you go give me caesar at the Rubicon 44 BC the Rubicon Caesar I can't I gotta have some material to read listen Jess says she's a history teacher she's so ready for this right all right so color explain to me how uh the carthaginians uh took over Rome there for a brief period and how they came from North Africa took the long route through the mountains in which the uh the Romans never thought to protect themselves from the treacherous mountaintops because they just assumed that no one was ever going to come through the mountains especially elephants much less with elephants and that was the crazy part they came through the mountains the carthaginians when they linked up with The Barbarians they came through the north Gathering up Allies all along the way going around the Mediterranean Sea to come in and attack during winter from the north no one ever could ever see it coming they also gathered up up a bunch of uh Gall and and Celtic and uh tries on the way to help them usian to come in to be a backup quarterback for us what you just told me gathered allies and in the winter and attacked in the north and [ __ ] yeah that's exactly what I need at backup quarterback and you know what else I need a carthaginian as my backup quarterback is what it [ __ ] sounds like Bud you know you know what else is this is your fault for us getting derailed thanks a lot go ahead everybody everybody always assumes uh that Hannibal Barka died like every other revolutionary right against Rome he didn't actually die after all that he lived out and like died of old age in Greece somewhere as a as a fugitive huh all right he lived on the Italian Peninsula for like years after all that happened and they didn't they didn't like kill him you know what I mean what was the name of that leader that uh because they they his father lost to Rome when they came across that's Hannibal Hannibal Baro that's right and that his son is the one that then went around and did all that hrabal was the father Hannibal is is the son okay has okay so Hannibal give me the tale amsr of Hannibal and the treachery that he had to go across and describe the brutal winners after a c it was a cold Icy winter in the Italian Alps the Dolomite mountains raised High into the sky Hannibal looked on at the task before him and he said roome your M yes [ __ ] love it dude oh color we might have to make this happen I'm gonna get color to do history and uh maybe we can get like some kind of a uh AI generated cartoon imagery put behind this this sounds like a hit bro give us genas Khan give us genas Khan oh gas you know genas Khan um is kind of a complex character see Raphael says genas Khan was color commentary's second cousin well be honest gas Khan might be right because that guy has say Raphael Courtright might be correct because in a recent study done to to break the human genome we have discovered that no less than 80% of the entire world can be traced back to gangas Khan that's crazy that is no [ __ ] in fact still today in Asia they PE babies are born with the blue bottom that is the birth mark of gangas Khan oh really and they call yeah yeah so this reminds me this reminds me off L caps T the night before Christmas you like that yeah hell yeah maybe I'll do it next year we'll do hell yeah color maybe I'll come and and be there with you and I'll be like a [ __ ] Elf or some [ __ ] maybe we'll do like a full [ __ ] thing on that yeah I even do I can even do U cosmology you know there you go just uh Jess just so you know as a history teacher color could talk history infinitely infinitely he could talk about history stuff we got a Jess and I got a hold of History space or something that would be pretty dope [ __ ] a history space you should host get many we won't get many uh listeners but I don't give a damn put it on YouTube bro I put it on and we'll take the audio and then I could have HB rip the audio and put it on something maybe we could put something together who knows see she she's being I think she might be in education so she's definitely like more structured than I am when it comes to talking about history so she would provide that balance you know I just go off the rails and tell you what I heard you know I mean what I learned yeah oh man like like it's the reason I I've told Ali this before it's the reason I can't really get into shows like Game of Thrones because all of the themes that that they present in Game of Thrones like that's real human history and to me there are so many real stories in real human history that are far more fascinating like why hav't why haven't they ever made m dragons color there's no dragons that's right but why haven't they ever made a movie about Jade freay from uh you know Egypt you know or or Carthage or whatever wherever he was from back then you know like there's stuff that there's characters in history that did weird and great things that we've never even heard of they can make way more movies like way better than that uh yeah um people wouldn't even know it was history they wouldn't even know they were being n color Hollywood likes to steal reality from history and imp implement it into to fiction then confuse in other words why the Game of Thrones when you can just do a movie on the War of the Roses it's the same thing except it actually happened I don't know see what I mean Jess this guy can go on forever on some [ __ ] well matter of fact they did a documentary series about the War of the Roses and they called it the English Game of Thrones that was the name of the documentary so uh Kevin Lee asks y'all think Tua and The Starters play Sunday I don't know uh it's the last home game of the preseason I gotta imagine you would rather it be home cooking and it's probably safer than playing them in the last preseason game in which there could be guys out there literally killing and dying for a roster spot looking to take a take a big shot on a two a Tong of the week to knock the rust off for sure this might I think if they play at all if Tua plays at all this would be the week I do not want to see him in that final preseason game and it really is only to knock the rust off you don't want Tua being cold turkey on on against Jacksonville you know what I mean just you yeah I think he plays one or two series to be honest I I think that's basically what you'll see there's only so much you can simulate in practice you know you really got to get in there that's what the whole reason I wanted to see Jaylen Wright last night because we just didn't know until he really started hitting a a line that was trying to stop him you know what I mean and I'm quite happy with the results I might add truth be told truth be told billion years ago so if color does a Christmas special and everything that we have ever known in this world from that Speck of dust color color mentioned that he might do the Christmas special this year well if that's the case this should be the uh the [Laughter] thumbnail did you get that such short notice I want to know what I want to know what hold how the [ __ ] did you get that so quickly bro what the [ __ ] skill of finding [ __ ] on the internet as quickly as I got I got to know what I'm dead ass will grab some of the most obscure [ __ ] off the internet I want to know what the prompt looked like that you rote into AI for that like an army of Sam Elliots with Santa hat breaking up Ali I I no he's not breaking up I think it's you but um I just uh Google searched Sam Elliot Christmas and it was the very first image that came up oh wow it's a Sam Elliot damn color take over the show I got to become my kid too late oh by the way uh I don't know if the person's listening but I I had a a random phone call today that was supposedly a wrong number and next thing you know we're like talking down the road and it exchanging names and [ __ ] and I'm like what was her name Eileen oh sh and I'm thinking but after after I got to know her a little bit I'm like wait a minute I mean maybe because it was a random wrong number but I'm sure they've TR they do that too so I'm thinking I'm I'm I think that somebody might be attempting to catfish me so I wanted to let the everybody know so I'm going to go through the process say hell yeah the person thinks that they're catfishing me but I'm in fact catfishing them yeah and we're gonna catch it all on film for uh the Youtube audience over here so good luck C 37 years old so there's no there's no entrapment type thing going on this ain't no sting or nothing 37 years old made that clear but the pictures she sent was uh maybe a little younger than 30 seven so I think I as soon as I I thought wow this person's probably trying to catfish me or that she heard that soothing color voice and she's thinking this guy's packing I gotta see what this is I gota see what's on the other side of this [ __ ] right oh no it was a tech it was a text wrong number it wasn't a phone call oh then yeah you're getting catfished that's yeah yeah but it was like oh I was looking for uh uh what ever the other name was like all right so uh all right never mind you know who would love this Tale in Los Angeles from Singapore I'm like oh yeah you know who else does this uh uh Tonk does this [ __ ] a lot for fun he's always doing that [ __ ] for fun and uh like what what what what clued me in was oh do you you use Telegram and it was like there are a thousand other ways you can communicate with me rather than trying to push me to use telegram yeah the the [ __ ] and we all know who telegram's owned by the the Indian guy that was texting to you that had to [ __ ] had to make it into English didn't just didn't translate as well right hoped you use telegram sure yeah you know [ __ ] between that and carrier pigeon that's how I keep up on everything well the cool thing about being poor is that no you don't have anything for anybody to steal so the people trying to scam you just get [ __ ] I I play the game with him you know it's like yeah uh wait a second was it telegram or Telegraph because I guess that's the only fans thing well Telegraph I thought they were I thought there was two different ones but it's telegram is the app maybe they were trying to do Telegraph what there's an app for telegram you know what I've had enough of this that's enough keep us posted keep us keep us uh keep us posted on the definitely yeah I mean if if it's a person that just needs a friend I mean hey I I'll keep going you know what I mean but yeah yeah tell her to sit just the signs are there you know what I mean you got any naked pictures not yet uh buy some I'm supposed to get in a conversation after the show to get to know each other a little more you missed my joke color do you want to buy some oh I might need to borrow some from you cap yeah oh I got you dog word up well I think this was a good show I think we uh covered a lot of bases honestly we talked about Ryan tanah Hill going to be the next backup quarterback here in Miami it's certain now that's it um that you know ask color if we're going to bring in anybody it's got to be him um that's number one number two uh Center position apparently it's just nobody gives a [ __ ] Conor Williams gets goes to uh to be all right Tu will just walk up to the ball and pick it up off the ground it'll be just we're going to go centerless right we got a we got a tongue of aloa on this team uh you know we we touched on some history we made the astute um job finding mission for color he's gonna do uh I keep wanting to say btsm but that's not it that's not it color whipping [ __ ] dog I can't believe it it's crazy got a whole [ __ ] he's got a whole chest full of gag balls and whips bro it's a [ __ ] ASMR is like them them channels you got like the hot chick shopping all night say I was about to say with that kind of talk elcap that puts a whole new meaning to uh coffee and a cup of color hell yeah pull up the image Ollie no no no don't do it don't do it don't do it don't do it don't do it coffee coffee color two cups oh my God oh my God C color in two cups two cups of color gross maybe maybe that's what that's the show be called when I when I H two cups of color is a [ __ ] fire name for a show bro two cup gonna go on only fans right now and create a channel called color and cream hey he's already oh gross you know what color's already got the telegram app he's that [ __ ] way there I don't know Louis I'm trying to figure it out myself man I think they trapped me somehow I feel trapped now bro I don't know man alls I know is we're pimping color's ass up at this [ __ ] right now between his sweet sensual voice and all these [ __ ] hitting him up from around the world that's going to be my what I call my strain of marijuana When I grow it it's going to be two cups one color it'll have orange hairs yeah yeah it will oh [ __ ] this is why you guys subscribe to this show and listen on podcast networks and everywhere else this is what you all come here for we know this the kind of stuff that we need to put behind the pay wall in the future you know what I mean it's gonna be what gets us shut down when we're all snotty snobby big Big Wigs to Big Time everybody yeah we'll have to erase this from the history butes Christ color cream Network gross oh it's a Ben and Jerry's flavor Scorpion's got it color is it really no saying it should be Ben flavor gross dude gross H oh wow yeah we got to get this only fans uh what is it amsr I keep on again ASMR I don't even know what ASMR stands for I know uh something would sound right I guess because they're always Whispering that's all I know they just whisper I always thought it just meant hot chick shopping on Amazon while everybody feeds her oh my God that's what I thought it meant for autonomous sensory Meridian response Jesus Christ the [ __ ] dumbasses that you have to have it at a certain frequency for it to put people to sleep you got do it gets kind of messed up listen to this ASMR stands for autonomous sensory Meridian response it's TP typically refers to the tingling feeling that travels from the head downward uh that someone experienced in response to certain mean Goose pimples like the one that women get when they hear Sam Elliott talk uh Jess give us a high five up in chat if colors on the Mone like the feeling men get when a when a British woman talks oh what are you talking about I'm not talking about a commoner I'm talking about I don't know what you're talking about I'm like [ __ ] that [ __ ] me bro that's what that's called man that's not English oh it's not that's only English it's called Cockney it's no English after the show stay backstage I I got to tell you a t-shirt that I'm working on now after tonight [ __ ] right hell yeah dog again and I'm gonna do a quick plug here I'm G play the that'll work too treas sure Ali working on another Banger for the tftg network.com guys go to tftg network.com to check out all of our apparel and uh here's the commercial get ready to dive into a new role of online shopping with the Fin's tailgate whether you're a DieHard sports fan or just looking for the latest fashion trends we've got you covered with a wide variety of products from your favorite sports 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bill I think the accent the dialect you might be referring to actually has a name it's called Virginia pedmont and it sounds sort of like this you want to go up to the I do de you want to get up off the Flo and walk through the door I do declare yeah that's the that's Virginia pedm yeah yeah you know who did a really really good uh know what sound I like silence that's the sound I like bro you know who did a really really good imitation of of that southern Pon that you're talking about your Doppel ganger color uh who's that you know who it is is Ernest oh yeah oh did he oh yeah yeah his his was more Kentucky no no no it was Southern Pon and you sound just like him dude it's not even I mean it did run through like Georgia like high georan and Louisiana it ran all through there it's the same accent that Doc Holiday had in Tombstone great movie by the way play for blood remember yes uh holiday I'm your huckleberry by the way uh in case y'all didn't know a Huck was the handles that or that the Paul bearers Ed to carry a casket teach them color it's hule bear that he says I'll be your Huckleberry he's saying I'll be your hook Bearer that's right I'm gonna make you I'm G put you in the ground I'm gonna be your hook Bearer yeah now you f to know [Music] well um that's All We Got Tonight guys uh I'm going to see what dirty pictures Ali got for us backstage um go to tftg network.com and uh see the next great t-shirt coming out here on the network um guys hit the like button subscribe if you're new if you're listening on Twitch Twitter uh Apple music Spotify anywhere else you can hear podcast come over to YouTube become part of the family become a member donate join the Subscribe hit the notification Bells get to see the show that you're listening to um and meet all the characters we have here on the network we uh we have a great time doing it and we want you guys to have a good time to see so we'll catch you guys next time and uh go fins Fins Up I think fin fins go Fins Up go 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