I'm joined Now by Colorado governor Jared polus here on behalf of the Harris walls campaign Governor thank you for being here you uh recently said that Harris has moved to the center on economic issues it seems like she's done that on a bunch of issues recently what's driving that shift well look I I think it's a sign of a of a good leader that they learn and evolve over time um when you know I I think what's key with regard to economic issues is making sure that we have additional tax releas for most American families uh especially those making under $400,000 a year families making 50,000 a year families making 200,000 a year they're getting the short end of the stick we need to reduce taxes her tax credit package does that uh you know whether it's a move to the the middle the left the right it's really about what works uh KLA Harris is a pragmatic leader who looks at data and and and Science and makes the best decision she can but but is is this an acknowledgement again it's not just the economic issues it's the Border uh it's it's uh uh energy is this an acknowledgement that the party had moved too far to the left I mean when she was running in that Democratic primary the energy it seemed to be was with Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders and candidates moved as far as they could to the progressive left did it go too far well look you know the Democrats are a broad tend party and and they have people who are conservative they have people who are liberal what KLA Harris has said and I take her to a word is she's going to be leader for all Americans a president for all Americans and that means regardless of your ideology there's going to be a place for for for your viewpoints and for hearing it out and for making the best decisions for everybody and of course Americans across the board want to have a secure border kamla Harris will work to deliver on that and secure the Border Americans across the board want to make sure we reduce the increase in prices that's been occurring she's a very aggressive plan to uh to do that so again she's going to lead in a way that really benefits every family around the kitchen table helps grow our economy and supports prosperity and as she says opportunity the opportunity agenda across our country so so let me ask you uh about an issue that unfortunately did not come up in the CNN interview uh it's the issue of Medicare for all which she favored she didn't just favor it in the 2020 campaign it was it seemed to me a centerpiece of her campaign let's look back at what she said at the time I am proud to stand with my colleagues and friends and support Medicare for all I strongly believe that we need to have Medicare for all I support Medicare for all I always have I'm running for president to say we need Medicare for all so now her campaign says that her position on that has changed uh that she no longer favors Medicare for all which would be you know government run health insurance uh for everybody uh do you have a sense of why it changed I mean and does she need to explain that well look as a basic Basic Value should every American have access to healthcare absolutely uh almost every other wealthy country does that we do it very poorly in our nation people overpay uh for insurance there's people that are still lack coverage um they don't get it through work they make too much to get it through Medicaid they're not old enough to get it for uh Medicare and we can and we must do better and that involves taking on the special interest which he's done as attorney general which she's done as a um as a senator it means taking on uh the pharmaceutical industry taking on the hospitals and providers cuz we absolutely can do this better it's not a one-size fits-all solution I think she understands that Americans want to have their choice of health care but can we do better and save people money on Healthcare absolutely and I I expect that she'll be working hard to deliver Real Results so that people's monthly insurance premiums are lower and that the American people are able to afford healthare but somewhere on the line she I guess decided that eliminating Private health insurance and replacing it with Medicare for everybody was the wrong approach uh well again I think what she acknowledges is what most Americans acknowledge is that there's not a one siiz fits-all solution for healthcare this is a very challenging in vexing issue right it's not one that lends itself to a one-word answer it's figuring out of course first and foremost how Americans can save money with what they have most Americans have insurance are most Americans happy with insurance not necessarily many people feel they pay too much and and and they get fought over on the benefits can we do better does expanding Medicare as a role letting people buy in at age 55 or 60 yeah these are ideas that should absolutely be on the table does negotiating for prescription drug rates should that be on the table look Americans are sick and tired of being ripped off and paying five times eight times as much for the exact same prescription drug that's available in Europe or Canada we're sick and tired of that we need to take on big farmer and make sure Americans get a reasonable price for prescription drugs that people need to stay healthy another issue that that didn't come up in the uh CNN interview is is her now apparent support for at least in some aspects the border wall I mean we've seen in her in her ad on the border she uses images of the border wall uh she says she'll sign uh the the the Senate bill which provided $650 million for more border wall construction uh she had called previously the border wall a medieval vanity project and a stupid use of money that she vowed to block so what's changed there look this is another issue that as it gets into the public disc course is is very misleading Democrats in general KLA Harris Joe Biden you know Barack Obama have always been supportive of building barriers and walls for certain parts of the Border as part of a comprehensive border security strategy wait ay she called and mon I mean she called the border wall a medieval vanity project a stupid use of money and said that she would block funding for it so she she wasn't talking about supporting you know the wall any any well that's true that the border wall that Donald Trump has proposed is a huge boondoggle and waste of taxpayer money he effectively talked about a wall across the entire border rather than using barriers of different kinds effectively in a costeffective manner including imagery from satellites including on the ground Intel to secure and lock down the Border uh what KLA Harris is for is securing it in the most cost-effective way possible to stop the illegal flow of people of Guns of drugs across that southern border and of course Donald Trump's border wall would not work would wte tpay money and of course barriers and walls are a part of the overall comprehensive strategy that comma Harris will deliver on to secure the southern border and and let me just ask you quickly another proposal that she's put out there is trying to make home ownership more affordable one of the proposals is this $25,000 uh incentive for firsttime uh home buyers you have a big issue with affordability in Denver of course uh do you think this is this would be an effective way or would it could it possibly actually drive up further well it's part of KLA Harris's overall strategy so what she leads with uh and we're we're strongly in agreement and we're pushing for in Colorado we're moving barriers that exist to Building Homes she talks about 3 million new homes nationally is the goal what bureaucracy can we get out of the way what red tape can we eliminate how can we make it easier to build the kinds of homes that people can afford reducing red tape and legal costs when we deliver on that of course it also makes sense to help people buy rather than than rent so that firsttime home buyers young people can get into ownership build wealth build equity it's part of that opportunity economy that she talks about rather than just have your paycheck go to rent every month how can you build intergenerational wealth to be able to support your own retirement perhaps your kids college education all right Governor po thank you for joining us this morning appreciate it