Kate Hudson may not have been around to witness her biological dad Bill Hudson's 1970s party days but Elton John was more than happy to fill her in Hudson 45 opened up about embracing her new career path as a songwriter in a special performance and panel at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles on Monday September 9th during her chat with journalist David Wise the singer and actress revealed that john77 would often regail her with stories of his partying Heyday with her father Bill 74 Bill had a close relationship with John and his songwriting partner Bernie toppen as top and signed Bill's group The Hudson Brothers to Jon's label rocket record company and produced some of their albums every time I would see Elton John especially after Almost Famous he would tell me these stories about how crazy my father was and why and naked all the time apparently she said he liked to be naked the stories I heard of my dad from Elton Hudson previously opened up about her strained relationship with Bill in a people cover story in May saying he was not present in her life after his divorce from her mother Goldie H in 1982 after their split Han began dating her longtime partner Kurt Russell and together they raised Kate and her brother Oliver as well as Kurt's son Boston and Kurt and Goldie son Wyatt there's nothing new there but love Hudson told people of Bill I love him I just don't overthink it it's a 40-year-old issue in her talk with wise Hudson who released her debut album glorious in May said she often used music to connect with her dad when she was a child I wanted him in my life but for complications of life and people and what have you we had a very very tough relationship she said so for me music was like Hudson you know the Hudson we're just it's just all music and so when I was little I wanted to feel that connection with him but I never got it she also spoke glowingly of her time on the set of Almost Famous which famously uses John song Tiny Dancer in a singalong scene Hudson said Cameron Crow's 2000 flick took my career to a place that I could only have ever imagined that I would be at as a performer the star added that she begged director Crow to let her audition for the part of Penny Lane which she ultimately secured I was initially playing the sister I was lower in the cast she said I was such a huge Cameron Crow fan so then I just said just please let me audition for Penny Lane and he didn't like that and then he finally said yes she continued that whole experience as a whole was incredible