MARIA: RICH, THANKS VERY MUCH. RICH EDSON IN CHICAGO. JOINING ME WITH MORE IS THE FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR, AUTHOR OF MARCH TO THE MAJORITY OF, AUTHOR NEWT GINGRICH. MR. SPEAKER, ALWAYS A PLEASURE. THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. >> GLAD TO BE WITH YOU. MARIA: GIVE US YOUR REACTION TO ALL YOU'VE SEEN AT THAT TIME THE DNC THIS WEEK. I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON HOW TIGHT THE POLLS ARE. >> LOOK, I THINK FIRST OF ALL, THE ENORMOUS CONTRAST OF THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A CONVENTION OF CONTINUITY. YOU HAD PRESIDENT OBAMA, YOU HAD PRESIDENT CLINTON, YOU HAD HILLARY CLINTON, YOU HAD NANCY PELOSI. SO IF YOU WANTED TO SEE THE NATIONAL ESTABLISHMENT GATHER, IT'S RIGHT THERE. IN CHICAGO. ON THE OTHER HAND, WHEN WE WENT TO THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION, IT'S REALLY A NEW REPUBLICAN PARTY. YOU DIDN'T HAVE FORMER PRESIDENTS, DIDN'T HAVE FORMER VICE PRESIDENTS. YOU REALLY HAD A CHANGE IN THE VERY NATURE OF THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT. SO I THOUGHT THE CONTRAST OF THE TWO VERY DIFFERENT PARTIES WAS FASCINATING. SECOND, THE DEMOCRATS ARE ENGAGED IN A I THINK DESPERATE AND REALISTIC EFFORT TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHO THEY ARE. I WAS VERY STRUCK FOR EXAMPLE WHEN MICHELLE OBAMA HAD THIS NICE QUOTE FROM HER PARENTS, THEY SAID DON'T TRUST PEOPLE WHO GET TOO MUCH AND YOU'RE LISTENING TO A PERSON WHO OWNS THREE MANSIONS AND SHE DOESN'T SEEM TO CONNECT THE DIFFERENCE. AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS CONSTANT GAP BETWEEN WHAT THEY'D LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE AND REALITY. SO I ACTUALLY THINK, MARIA, THAT YOU HAVE TWO FASCINATING EXACTLY OPPOSITE CAMPAIGNS. THE DEMOCRATS WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON PERSONALITY AND AVOID POLICY. THE REPUBLICANS WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON POLICY AND AVOID PERSONALITY. AND IT WILL BE FASCINATING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO SEE WHICH OF THOSE CAMPAIGNS DOMINATES. MARIA: I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT. BUT YOU HEAR THINGS FROM, FOR EXAMPLE, PRESIDENT CLINTON LAST NIGHT SAYING, YOU KNOW, LET'S CHOOSE PEACE OVER WAR. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WAS SITTING THERE STRUCK WHEN HE SAID THAT BECAUSE THERE WERE NO WARS UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, DID THEY FORGET THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN RUNNING THINGS 12 OF THE LAST 16 YEARS? THEY'VE BEEN IN CHARGE. SO A FRESH FACE, FRESH START, NO, NO, IT'S THE SAME FACE. >> WELL, AND IT'S ALSO THE KIND OF STUPID COMMENT WHICH TIPIFIES MODERN LIBERALISM. OF COURSE WE WOULD ALL LOVE PEACE. EXPLAIN HOW 1200 ISRAELIS GOT KILLED IN ONE DAY, SOME OF THEM BABIES, YOU DON'T THINK THE ISRAELIS WOULD HAVE CHOSEN PEACE? YOU DON'T THINK THE UKRAINIANS WOULD CHOOSE PEACE? THE FACT IS, IN 1862, IF WE HAD CHOSEN PEACE THE SOUTH WOULD HAVE CESEDED AND SLAVERY WOULD EXIST. THIS IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH MODERN LIBERALISM. HAS GREAT LINES WITH NO MEANING AND A NOT IN TOUCH WITH THE REAL WORLD. KAMALA HARRIS TALKING ABOUT HOW GREAT THE ECONOMY IS AND WE LEARN YESTERDAY THERE'S AN ALMOST MILLION JOB DECLINE IN THE RECORDING OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY WERE JUST OFF BY A MILLION JOBS THAT DIDN'T EXIST AND THAT THE DEMOCRATS WERE REALLY PROUD OF. SO I DO THINK YOU HAVE THIS WHOLE ISSUE. LET ME JUST SAY, I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MODERN RADICALISM IS, IT HAD HAS NO ROOTS IN HE REALITY. IT WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE IN ITS FANTASY AND WANTS YOU NOT TO LOOK AT THE. MARIA: WELL, HARRIS ROLLED OUT A PARTIAL ECONOMIC POLICY WHICH INCLUDES FEDERAL PRICE FIXING, RAISING THE CORPORATE TAX RATES TO 28%, 44.6% CAPITAL GAINS TAX AND 25% TAX ON UNREYO UNREALIZE. WALZ IS PROMISING TAX CUTS FOR HOME BUYERS. THE MEDIAN PRICE NEW HOME MONTHLY MORTGAGE PAYMENT IS UP 85% UNDER THE BIDEN, HARRIS ADMINISTRATION. WATCH THIS. >> KAMALA HARRIS IS GOING TO CUT YOUR TAXES. IF YOU'RE GETTING SQUEEZED BY PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES, KAMALA HARRIS IS GOING TO TAKE ON BIG PHARMA. IF YOU'RE HOPING TO BUY A HOME HO, KAMALA HARRIS IS GOING TO HELP MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE. NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE, KAMALA HARRIS IS GOING TO STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM TO LIVE THE LIFE THAT YOU WANT TO LEAD. MARIA: NEWT, IS ANYBODY BUYING THIS, KAMALA HARRIS ITS GOING TO DO ALL THIS STUFF FOR EVERYBODY. MEANWHILE, SHE'S BEEN IN OFFICE FOR THREE AND-A-HALF YEARS AND HASN'T DONE ANY OF IT? >> I THINK IN A SHORT RUN, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A NICE RUN UP TO ABOUT LABOR DAY AND THEN IT'S GOING TO THE SINK IN. I REMEMBER IN 1988 WHEN THE DEMOCRATS CAME OUT OF THEIR CONVENTION, MICHAEL DUKAKIS WAS AHEAD BY 17 POINTS. HE LOST BY 8. THAT MEANS THAT BETWEEN THEIR CONVENTION AND THE ELECTION, ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR AMERICANS SWITCHED FROM DUKAKIS TO GEORGE H W. BUSH. IF KAMALA HARRIS IS GOING TO DO ALL THIS, SHE HAD 1400 DAYS. SHE SAID ON DAY ONE, WELL, DAY ONE WAS IN FACT JANUARY 20th, 2021. SHE HAS BEEN IN THE GOVERNMENT. SHE HAS BEEN NEXT TO JOE BIDEN. SHE'S BEEN IN THE WHITE US HOUS. WHAT WE'RE GETTING IS A PURELY POLITICAL, I HOPE YOU'RE DUMB ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THIS KIND OF CAMPAIGN. MARIA: DOUG COLLINS JUMP IN HERE. >> GOOD TO TALK TO YOU. I MADE THIS COMMENT TALKING ABOUT THE CONVENTION, YOU TALK ABOUT THE CONTRAST. SEEMS WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IS SET UP THE STRAW MAN ARGUMENT VERSUS REALITY. DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT ECONOMY, IMMIGRATION POLICY, FOREIGN POLICY, SO THEY SET UP THINGS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN TALKING ABOUT, LIKE KEEPING PEOPLE FROM RELIGION, KEEPING PEOPLE FROM PRACTICING THEIR LIFESTYLE. THE FIRST AMENDMENT, SAYING THEY'RE KEPT FROM WHAT THEY HAD WANT TO SAY WHEN IT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE. DO YOU SEE THE STRAW MAN ARGUMENT CONTINUING OR ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO PIVOT AT SOME POINT. >> IF THEY CAN AVOID IT YOU, THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO PIVOT. TAKE GOVERNOR WALZ, GOVERNOR WALZ DURING THE PANDEMIC CLOSED ALL THE CHURCHES, VERY ANTI-CATHOLIC MOVE BY THE WAY BUT ALLOWED THE MALL OF THE AMERICAS TO STAY OPEN FOR WHAT THEY CALLED RETAIL THERAPY. SO IF YOU WANTED TO REDUCE YOUR TENSION, YOU DIDN'T GO TO CHURCH WHICH WAS ILLEGAL, BUT YOU DID GO TO MALL OF THE AMERICAS. IT'S THIS KIND OF STUFF, YOU KNOW, KAMALA HARRIS WANTED TO BAIL OUT THE PEOPLE THAT WALZ DID NOT WANT TO ARREST SO YOU HAVE IN THE RIOTS WHICH WERE TERRIBLE IN MINNESOTA, YOU HAVE WALZ REFUSING TO BRING IN THE NATIONAL GUARD, DRAGGING HIS FEET, YOU HAVE HIS WIFE OPENING THE WINDOWS AND SAYING PUBLICLY SAYING SHE WANTED TO SMELL THE BURNING TIRES, APPARENTLY THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT REVOLUTIONARY MOMENT. THEY WANT US TO BELIEVE HE'S A GOOD OLD BOY FROM A SMALL TOWN IN NEBRASKA. HE BECAME A LEFT WING RADICAL. HE'S MORE RADICAL THAN BERNIE SANDERS AND THE HARRIS, WALZ TICKET IS THE MOST RADICAL IN AMERICANS HISTORY. THE MASK IS GOING TO SLIP OFF. THEY CAN'T SUSTAIN IT. MARIA: WE'LL SEE IF THE VOTERS FALL FOR IT. NEWT. THAT'S THE THING. THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE FALLING INTO LINE, GIVEN THE DIRECTION FROM THE LEADERSHIP OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THIS CONVENTION. NEWT, GREAT TO SEE US AS