let's move on Fresno State at Michigan the Bulldogs are hoping to come away with some more big 10 upset magic after they upset Purdue last year uh unfortunately for Fresno State Michigan it's not Purdue so you they are favored by 21 here um I do think that there is a lot of interest going into this one a lot of new starters for Michigan a lot of these guys did play last year so it's not like they're completely unknown however there are a number of new players playing so Kent I'm going to ask for you who is one player in particular you want to see play well or maybe do something in particular uh to really give confidence for Michigan fans that hey we're still National contenders you know pick us for the playoffs uh that kind of stuff I'll go off off the rails just a little bit here I'm goingon to go khil mullings to play really well because I think that what Donovan Edwards did last year for Blake corm he's now kind of in that role where where Don's now carrying the load I call him Don because I play with Michigan in my Dynasty so like yeah so we're on a first name basis now but uh um I think that he's kind of you know in that backup role that's very important for Michigan a very important backup role you know Donovan proved that last year so uh if mullings can step up and have a season like Donovan Edwards had last year I think that Michigan's going to be in a good spot um so that's the player I would say that I'm keeping my eye on the most uh we have blue Vine waving I hope that's a hello wave I don't think I hope that's not a goodbye wave but say something bad or or goodbye yeah we just started talking about Michigan so maybe goodbye I don't know uh Eevee says if only Fresno can pull off the upset yes with the Buckeye with the Buckeye or mascot mascot with the Brutus picture there uh I'm sure you are rooting for that Zack uh who's who's a player for you that you think needs to play really well to give Michigan fans kind of that bragging rights that hey we're still National contenders uh I I don't know if it's the the player that needs to that's gonna say bragging rights well I'll give you two I think one is baram the linebacker transfer from Maryland I I think he's the guy that if he flashes it's like oh our defense is back the guy I'm really intrigued by you know Roman Wilson and Cornelius Johnson are were underrated guys and I think a lot not a lot of people talked about the receivers but they were clutch for Michigan Tyler Morris had a big Rose Bowl big touchdown in that game I want I think he's gonna Flash in this game and he might become maybe not their go-to receiver but he has the speed to outrun angles and I I like I think that's an under under the radar pick to be watching out for for Michigan yeah I think uh that's a really good pick I like the Jan Barum pick as well there's a lot of talk about how good he is going to be Michigan their linebackers had a ton of tackles last year uh and Ernest hosman himself was third on the team leading tackle tackles baram only had 39 or 34 or something like that last year and then only 50 the year before that which I say only 50 59 sorry um so he's going to have to get a lot more tackles this season I know he's going to be a good Blitzer I know he's going to sack the quarterback and do a good job there but uh I think that he needs to show his ability to uh you know be on the field at all times making all these tackles I get it's Maryland plays a little bit of better a different defense so you know that impacts it but still I think he needs to get a number of tackles this year to do that uh I can't believe neither of you said Alex orgy that that's my guy Alex orgy has got to play well specifically on third and fourth down in order for me to have confidence in this Michigan team that they're going to continue to be National contenders they have the defense I think the wide receivers are good enough I think the running backs are much better than people give them credit for Mullin is going to do a good job I think Donovan Edwards had a down year last year but he's going to come back from his down year and do a very good job as well is he Blake Corum no he's not Blake Korum but he's more explosive than Blake Korum was so he might add that element to the offense that Blake corm didn't add as much but at the end of the day like who was the guy that uh there were so many crucial third Downs so many crucial fourth Downs where JJ McCarthy went out there he was calm he was cool he he was collected he had an 87.5% completion percentage on fourth down guys 87.5 that is incredible uh to have that a 24.9 QB rating one touchdown zero interception zero sacks on fourth down I told all he did was hand the ball off well he that's not it he also converted those fourth Downs a lot um the only player that was better statistically I went through I mean maybe there's like some Coastal Carolina guy that's better sorry if there isn't I went through all like the quarterbacks that got drafted and things like that the only player that was better on Fourth Downs last year than JJ McCarthy was Jaylen milro and that was because he only threw four balls on fourth down so it's like you only throw four you know you have a little bit better numbers but uh and then on third down JJ McCarthy had 67.1% completion percentage 169.74 was Bon Knick so I think it's underrated how much JJ McCarthy was good on Fourth and third down for them last year I hate saying that as an Ohio State fan but it's the truth and when I do the Big 10 podcast I try to do my best to give you the truth and not be biased even though I know I am but at the end of the day like Alex orgy has got to be really efficient I've heard some people say oh if he just throws 64% completion percentage that'll be good no not on third and fourth down he's got to be better than that in order for this team to be a able to do what they do uh and be really efficient so any thoughts on Alex orgy or any of the guys that Kent said Zack I no I mean I think you guys are both right I uh you know talking with uh our friends over out of the blue um they they referred to Cleo mullings as as an annoyance for teams and that's that that sounds how I feel as an Ohio State fan over the past several years with guys like Blake Corum and uh Hassan H Haskins it's like oh you're G to hand it off again and it's going to be another first down yeah it's not fun and then I feel like the quarterbacks are given so I it's that's that's a good those are great picks awesome Kent uh before we move on to the next one got any thoughts on orgy bam wide receivers anything like that uh yeah if he plays anything like he does in the video game then he's going to be just fine this year um you know he's picking up third and fourth Downs left and right for me all the time so I have no worries about him converting and the video game's pretty accurate I would say so um I think he's going to be just fine being able to complete those passes and uh be able to pick him up with his feet as well so that's that's that's how I think it's GNA go just like a video game we're definitely G to see that quinon Judkins spin move life at some point this no doubts no doubts all right all right uh good stuff there guys we're scores for this one too or no do what are we doing scores for all of them or no if you want to give a score you can I didn't do a score for this one I've I've got a score go ahead Zack I I've got 3417 I I don't Fresno State I mean I know we we joke that Michigan's not Purdue Fresno State's a good group of five team and got a good quarterback and and Keen um and I think it's gonna take a little bit for Michigan to kind of gel on just with all their new starters but Michigan will ground and pound and they'll like they'll win convincingly but they won't cover in my in my humble opinion you got them right on the dot what' you say 3817 34 17 oh 34 okay um if I had to give one I'd probably give something I'm a little I'm just a little bullish on the offense going into the year or not bullish I'm a little down on the offense going into the year so I I'd probably something like 24 to3 24 to7 something like that this Michigan defense is going to rock I mean they're I I I know Fresno State's pretty good but I don't know if they're going to give up 17 points that's just me but um all right guys we'll move on