THE HORROR OF THAT SCENE AT KABUL AIRPORT. >> BIDEN CERTAINLY WANTED THE AFGHANISTAN WITHDRAWAL, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, TRUMP STARTED THE PROCESS IN MOTION. >>> MEANWHILE, REPUBLICAN VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE JD VANCE ESCALATED ATTACKS AGAINST VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS YESTERDAY TO A NEW LEVEL, BLASTING THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE OVER THE U.S. TROOP WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN. >> TO HAVE THE 13 AMERICANS LOSE THEIR LIVES AND NOT FIRE A SINGLE PERSON IS DISGRACEFUL. KAMALA HARRIS IS DISGRACEFUL. IF WE WERE TO TALK ABOUT A STORY OUT OF THE 13 INNOCENT, BRAVE AMERICANS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES, IT'S THAT KAMALA HARRIS IS SO ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL, SHE WON'T EVEN DO AN INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT HAPPENED. SHE WANTS TO YELL AT DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE HE SHOWED UP? SHE CAN -- SHE CAN GO TO HELL. >> VANCE MADE THOSE REMARKS DURING A CAMPAIGN STOP IN ERIE, PENNSYLVANIA, WHILE DEFENDING A IMPROPER BEHAVIOR AT ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY. LATER, HE STOPPED IN WISCONSIN AND DOUBLED DOWN ON HIS INITIAL COMMENTS. >> LOOK, SOMETIMES I GET FRUSTRATED, AND SOMETIMES I GET PISSED OFF. I THINK KAMALA HARRIS' FAILURE AT ABBEY GATE IS SOMETHING TO BE FRUSTRATED ABOUT. >> THAT'S JD VANCE SEEMING TO TRY TO SOFTEN HIS REMARKS. HE JUST TOLD THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO GO TO H HELL. THAT'S THE RHETORIC THE REPUBLICAN TICKET IS ENGAGING IN. >> YEAH, AND I THINK, LOOK, THERE'S LEGITIMATE CRITICISMS TO MAKE ABOUT HOW THE AFGHANISTAN WITHDRAWAL WAS HANDLED. OBVIOUSLY, IT WAS A LOW POINT FOR THE BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATION. I THINK IT FACILITATED THE DROP FROM WHICH BIDEN HIMSELF NEVER RECOVERED, WHICH GOES TO SHOW HOW THE PUBLIC FELT ABOUT THE WHOLE MATTER. YEAH, IT IS FAIR CRITICISM, BUT THIS TYPE OF CRITICISM AND THE POLITICIZATION OF THE ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY REALLY DOES KIND OF TRIP UP THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN OPERATION FROM MAKING THE CRITICISM. IT'S NOT SO MUCH -- I MEAN, OF COURSE, THERE'S THE IDEA THAT YOU WOULD KIND OF TRY TO POLITICALLY PROFIT OFF THIS MOMENT BY BRINGING A CAMERA CREW AND FILMING IN THE SACRED GROUND. BUT I THINK THERE IS A LARGER CONTEXT, TOO. THERE SHOULD FEEL LIKE THERE ARE PLACES IMMUNE OR EXEMPT FROM POLITICS, RIGHT? POLITICS HAS SEEPED INTO EVERY FACET OF OUR LIFE. CHURCHES, SCHOOLS, EVERYTHING. NOW, WHEN YOU SEE THE ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY IN SECTION 60 BECOME A STAGING GROUND FOR PARTISAN BICKERING BECAUSE OF DONALD TRUMP, NOT BECAUSE OF ANYONE ELSE, IT GOES TO THE LARGER PIECE THAT HARRIS IS GETTING AT. WE WANT TO MOVE ON FROM THIS. WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND TIME WONDERING WHETHER IT IS PROTOCOL TO BRING CAMERAS FOR POLITICAL PROFITEERING INTO ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY. WE DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT WHETHER THE GRAVESTONES ARE USED AS PROPS IN POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS. THEY'VE DONE THIS. IN TRUE TRUMPIAN FASHION, WHEN CONFRONTED ABOUT IT, THEY NOT ONLY SAY KAMALA HARRIS CAN GO TO HELL, BUT THE TRUMP SPOKESPEOPLE ARE SAYING THE PERSON WORKING AT THE CEMETERY WAS QUOTE, UNQUOTE, SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ISSUES. WHY? WHAT IS THE POINT OF DOING THAT? IT JUST SEEMS KIND OF A GROTESQUE REJOINDER TO THIS WHOLE THING, WHEN YOU COULD JUST SAY, LOOK, MAYBE IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING, WHICH IS WHAT NORMAL PEOPLE WOULD SAY. I THINK THE LARGER STORY MATTERS AS MUCH AS THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT VANCE IS SAYING AND WHAT HAPPENED AT ARLINGTON. >> YEAH. ALI, SAM MAKES A GOOD POINT. FIRST, ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY IS ARGUABLY THE MOST SACRED PLACE IN THE NATION. I TRY TO GO AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR AND WALK THROUGH IT. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> TO HAVE -- A, QUOTE, NORMAL CAMPAIGN, CAMPAIGN OF YEARS PAST, IF THERE HAD BEEN AN ALTERCATION BETWEEN A STAFFER, A CAMPAIGN STAFFER AND SOMEONE WHO WORKS THE CEMETERY, IT'D BE THE CAMPAIGN STAFFER IMMEDIATELY FIRED OR AT LEAST SUSPENDED. >> YEAH. >> INSTEAD, WE HAVE THE TRUMP TEAM DOUBLING, TRIPLING DOWN, AND DEFENDING THE STAFFER AND ATTACKING THE PERSON AT THE CEMETERY. IT DOES REITERATE, AS SAM SAID, WHAT THE HARRIS TEAM IS SAYING. AND OTHERS IN THE POLITICAL WORLD ARE SAYING. THE NATION IS EXHAUSTED BY DONALD TRUMP. >> YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT, IN ANY NORMAL CAMPAIGN, THEY WERE INVITED, IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO ACCEPT THE INVITATION AND GO THERE. THAT MAKES SENSE. WHEN YOU'RE ARGUING WITH THE STAFF AT ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY, I THINK YOU'VE LOST THE PLOT THERE. THERE WAS A TANGIBLE REPORT FILED. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, I BELIEVE, HAVE ASKED FOR. CERTAINLY, I AM INCLINED AND INTERESTED TO SEE IT. THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK COULD SHED CONTINUED LIGHT ON THIS SITUATION. BUT IF YOU'RE ARGUING WITH THE STAFF AT ONE OF AMERICA'S MOST SACRED SITES, I THINK YOU'VE CLEARLY LOST THE MESSAGE. THE OTHER PIECE, TOO, AS I LISTEN TO JD VANCE THERE, HE IS THE PERSON WHO, RIGHTLY, AFTER THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF HIS RUNNING MATE, SAID THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO TAKE THE RHETORIC DOWN. HE BLAMED DEMOCRATS FOR RATCHETING IT UP. CERTAINLY, WE'VE SEEN A RATCHETING UP ACROSS THE BOARD, LARGELY, IN PART, BECAUSE OF FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HIMSELF AND THE WAY HE ATTACKS AND GOES AT HIS POLITICAL ENEMIES AS HE PERCEIVES THEM. BUT THAT COMMENT FROM VANCE BASICALLY TELLING, AS SAM SAID, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO GO TO HELL, THAT IS COMPLETELY ANATHEMA TO WHAT HE SAID AND YET ANOTHER MOMENT WE ARE IN A PLACE OF, HAVING GONE THROUGH A PERIOD OF SAYING, WELL, THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WILL TAKE THE RHETORIC DOWN, IT IS A SOBER-MINDED STATE AFTER THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION, AND HERE WE ARE, BACK AT THIS POINT. >> NO ONE THINKS IT'LL BE TAKEN DOWN. >> WE'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH FOR THAT.