onto the baseline like and nothing you know, kept it, kept it clean. But I had to come out of the game. Another guy went in. We lost 11 nine. And we are joined now by none other than Doug Flutie, who was kind enough to join us here on the insiders with me, Tom Pelissero, that's Ian Rapoport, that's Judy Battista. Doug, I can see you got a Heisman Trophy behind you okay. You're an absolute legend in college football. The CFL you played a long time in the NFL. I understand where in my mind's eye as like a 1920 year old kid playing against an NFL quarterback is probably a lot more memorable than you playing against five moron college sophomores at that time. But I'm very curious. Do you have any recollection whatsoever, and also any thoughts on how I was describing the intensity of those pickup games at the rec Plex? I really don't remember this specific game out of the 875,635 pickup games that I've played in my life, he was the one that caught an elbow, I don't know. I don't know if he's complaining that a old man beat him up or that he was beat by a bunch of girls, so I don't, I don't recollect I did used to play a lot of pickup ball. It did get competitive. I did love playing with the girls from the women's team knew how to play basketball. They they passed, they shoot, they rebound, they do everything. So that sounds it sounds, authentic. It sounds for real that that game went on. I don't specifically remember, but, Yeah, yeah, but it's time to win. It's time to win, right? I don't know, I honestly, I couldn't tell you what what happened. So I would like to hear more stories about Tom getting elbowed and losing games because that sounds fun to me. But when I was in Boston covering the Patriots, I played in a wood bat league and over 30 wood bat league, and I always heard that you and your brothers were like the best in the league and that you would make the all star team and you guys would dominate. Now, I never, unfortunately, made the all star team. So one was that true? And two, how often did you have to deal with people like, let's just say, for example, Tom trying to like give you a little extra just because of what you had done in your pro career. You know, we continue actually, we my brother Bill still plays in the leagues. I play with that group of guys. We go to tournaments and still play once in a while in the over 50 bracket, just for fun. I've had more than my share of brush backs with pitches. Guys trying to take you out at second base, everybody. It just seems like. And I remember having this conversation with Terry Bradshaw once, Terry said, why do you do this stuff? You know, you're just giving people a story on you know, it's like, oh, I struck out Doug Flutie, or I hit him with a pitch or I, you know, I love it's I'm not great at going to the gym and working out. I like activity and that's how I stay in shape and enjoy. And I still enjoy. We go to these tournaments I'm playing second. My younger brother is playing short. My older brother is playing third, and we're playing baseball together. It's I'm 60 years old and it is a blast, to still just walk out. There we go. That's my brother Bill at third, I think. I, I think I'm there at short, and my younger brother has moved over to second base since his arm is not good anymore. All right, Doug, I have a bad Doug Flutie memory, too. You've got the Heisman right over your shoulder there. It's almost the 40th. It's almost the 40th anniversary, Doug, of the hail Mary in the Orange Bowl, I was there, I'm a Miami hurricane, I move on with our lives. They have this moment that they remember. That signifies my career. So you're joining us from down there in Florida, Doug, like you said, you're a very active guy. What are you up to these days and how much how much football are you still consuming? I'll tell you, I am a very passive, spectator. When it comes to football. I did watch the BC win the other night. They looked great, most of my time is spent playing golf or surfing. I get up in the morning and look to surf. I was telling you guys the story I had, my two little nieces out and they wanted their 12. One's ten, one's 14, and I was pushing them in the waves. I went out for about an hour and a half, pushing them in the waves, trying to get them to catch waves. And I'm out there wading in the water, waist to chest deep. Well, after they go in, I take my board and I paddle out and sure enough, as soon as I get out there, I see a bunch of baitfish in the wave and a little five foot blacktip shark decides to come visit for a while and hover around me for about a minute. Minute and a half, and it stayed surface like. Usually you see them for a split second and they disappear, this one surfaced and hung out for a while. I don't even think it knew I was there. I think it was more or less it was chasing the fish around me, but eventually it took off and everything was cool, and I got to catch my waves. Well, that's completely horrifying. And I'm glad that you're okay. And I'm sure you get used. I don't know, you get used to especially being in Florida. You get used to seeing them and usually it's not, you know, 12 foot boat. Well, we do get bull sharks, but you know, it's not great whites and bull sharks. It's mostly smaller sharks, I want to take this in a different direction. Talk about some news that just dropped a couple hours ago. I guess Bill Belichick went on the Pat McAfee show and confirmed that he has now joined Instagram or Insta face, as he calls it, Insta face. You know Bill Belichick well. Yep. You you played for him. You know him as well as anyone. I guess my question to you is what is this world coming to? And what do you think of this? I well I think I think, the problem is now that that is how especially you know, retired athletes, they can it's a nice retirement program, being popular online, whether it's through that or cameos or other things online. Bill, I never thought I would join. Bill fought it. He didn't want to be on Insta face. He didn't want to be on my face, as he put it, but, you know, he's he's going to have to move on from coaching and do some TV or do whatever he's going to do. And part of that deal is having followers, you know, the younger generation doesn't even know who you are unless you have over 100,000 followers, 200,000 followers, millions of followers. I don't know, it's a different world. I can't explain it. I really I have a Instagram page, I have about 50,000. I just I don't put much of an effort into it. I just do it because in order to do the commercials you do and things of that nature, you have to have a social media platform. Doug, I just want to ask you one quick question about the game today. Who are the quarterbacks you like to watch in the game right now? I love watching Patrick Mahomes. I love watching the athletic guys. You know Baker Mayfield, anyone that can run around and make plays because I feel like I could still play the game. You know, the offenses today are very similar to what we were doing when I was playing in Canada. And I get very jealous. I get jealous of the guys who can stay with the same team for a long period of time and build an offense, but I get very jealous of the smaller guys and athletic guys now that are playing, because the offense really suits their skills rather than you know, the square peg in a round hole thing. So I get a little jealous from that standpoint, but I love watching it and I love seeing them. You know, Mahomes will just drop down whatever the situation calls for, you know, whether it's dropping down, throwing sidearm, a jump pass, the scramble and hang on to the ball, whatever. And those are the types of things that I like to do. And pretty much got criticized for doing back then. But it's just fun for me to watch now you're ahead of your time, there's no doubt about it. And it's interesting to this, this segment began with a story about you at age 38 or so, kicking my when I was 20, then seeing that photo of you shirtless on the surfboard. You're 61. I'm pretty sure I'm 43 and you can still kick my now. So somewhere at a rec plex, I hope we get another chance here. You round up the women's basketball team, I'll round up my buddies and. Hey, hey, thanks a ton for coming on the show, man. We really appreciate it so much fun. And thanks for the memory. And, yogc