I haven't seen uh the outrun yet but I know you produced that cers is obviously starring in that what's it been like to collaborate I mean obviously meric wam Scot is where you guys met this is a different kind of collaboration you know some couples uh we're never going to work together we just want to keep it separate did you find it a natural fulfilling experience to work in in this kind of capacity with her yeah I mean you know she she is she is first and foremost um in terms of the Arts you know she's first and foremost um one of the elite Act I think that that that that's that's working even even even how young she still is um and we we we've it's inevitable I think if if actors or with actors writers or with writers or whatever that you that you you drawn towards making something together we didn't go out looking for something to make together we we always sort of fantasized about it or whatever and then I read this book and I was like Jesus Christ I mean this part like sh you should play this part and she read the book and and we sort of chased it and and then it ended up that we produced it and and she was in it um um and it was it was one of the great joys of my life doing that project it's it's been it's it's such a hard thing to get an independent film made yeah and it's an absolute miracle and I'm feel very fortunate that I've had the experience of it but it's one of my favorite things I've ever done with my life and I think um her and I definitely want to do more and we're going to do more um and we you know we're excited about how how we do that in different ways you know do we produce do we direct whatever right you talked about wanting to direct um that could be that's gonna happen that's inevitable yeah I yeah and um you know I you know I would love to direct her um I I know she's she she wants to direct as well um so it's it's just it's it's quite exciting to see what we do but like we're in no rush at all we're we're in no rush um we we just we want to meet we want to love it still you know we want to love it because it's a tough tough thing to get a film made it's a tough thing