at the end of the whole series we see some graphic injuries your ear um your ear partly taken off you were really hurt we've seen a woman's face completely taken off like the these are still aggressive animals how do you reconcile the fact that I'm sure you weren't expecting the attack to happen or the lady wasn't expecting to have her face ripped off but she still did but yet this is an animal that is allowed to be around little children and and you know like it's from the outside it's hard to understand and how you can't also see the danger and how problematic that might be for people well first of all that documentary is not politically correct about any of that and to go into details about that would be longstanding and would be a long conversation with you guys but that actually did not take place what do you mean which bit the part about that uh chimp attacked me that did not take place at all what what so what were we watching that was um it's it's just a very very long story but I self assure you same thing that I had a debate with the documentary crew about is uh it's just longstanding but I can self assure you I've never been injured by a chimpanzee ever and definitely not those traumatic injuries sorry sorry just to um labor on it because it is such a big part of the do the doco I feel like it we can't just stop here not getting an understanding then of what actually happened because I feel like if you're trying to set the record straight for people watching it they are walking away thinking you've been injured by a Chim what then was it someone else that injured you or another animal that injured you or um it it's like I said it would take forever to go into the whole story because nobody else is aware of it but I can self assure you did not get hurt by a chimpanzee sorry in the doco there's photos of your injuries your hands bandaged and in your own words you explain those injuries are you saying that what you said in the doco um is that what you were told to say and that's not your own words or how do you explain that part of the documentary again I I'm I just feel like that that whole situation was scripted do you think that was because they gave you a a fake director and there was trust there that you thought um it was someone kind of from your world I mean this was someone who used to work at the circus involved with animals and do you feel like they built up a trust that was shouldn't have been there in the first place and so you were coerced into saying things that you didn't necessarily believe or were true well I think it was taken out of context just like a lot of the other stuff was taken out of context and yes it is because I had private conversations with somebody that I did not realize was basically bought and paid for by Eric good and I think all of the if anybody could just listen to the real version of everything that happened with Tonka and everything that happened with Connie Casey's case and everything else I think people would be quite amazed at the discrepancies with this documentary versus the reality I guess that's what um we're trying to do now and the reason I keep talking about it is cuz I feel like people are going to walk away with an idea in their head that you were attacked and this is an opportunity for you to say what you saw is not what happened but because you're not willing to say what happened I think people are still going to walk away thinking you were attacked what can you not explain a little bit about or give some context as to what we saw so that people can understand that accurate representation that you're so desperately trying to get across well first of all I had told them that a baboon had attacked me um right so like I said there the context is totally different than what really happened and so it's it was just misleading on the docu documentary and I think that was to further their agenda with Peta to be able to go ahead and um you know further the agenda for the um Prime safety act that's currently being in legislation currently to ban the primat so if you want to know the truth I think it was all slanted for AR purposes to try to uh further their agendas which is to get all primates out of the um private sector so I think that they beefed up or maybe embellished or exaggerated a lot of the documentary was that your baboon or somebody else's baboon it was not my babon now