I want to talk about your recent piece in New York Magazine the race between Ruben gyo and carry Lake what did you find when you went there what what was the story of that race what are the stakes of that race tell us about that um well I love Arizona first of all you're a big Arizona fan love AR I love the American West in general I think on like a some deep molecular level Americans have an urge to go west they do and I yeah famously yeah famously we love it we love going west um so I love it there um it's fascinating she is sort of this proxy for Donald Trump um she is attempting to cast gyo as a proxy for Joe Biden and in many ways he is he's sort of a lowprofile democratic member of Congress who votes as most of them do along party lines uh there's not a lot of daylight between him and the president um and she's now in quite a predicament of the day that our story published um this blow up about abortion in that state um occurred so it was sort of mostly a story about the border and Border policy um and their respective positions on the border and already that felt like it was a microcosm of of the national election right this is Ground Zero for the election fraud according to Cary Lake and according to supporters of of Donald Trump um there were a lot of issues that had National significance and then all of a sudden abortion came into that in a really significant way did you read the Washington Post report this week about how Trump is not particularly happy with Lake he's apparently annoyed that she's always at maral Lago and he doesn't think that she necessarily has a good chance of winning she's like the Kimmy Gibler Maro did uh what did you make of that do you think that like is that bad for her that Trump terrible for her I mean it's true but even just having it out there it's like with Trump any coverage like always runs the risk I think of like kind of manifesting itself as true right he reads it and then says you know yeah maybe I don't like her that much yeah um I I think it's terrible for her I mean her entire pitch is that basically if you elect me I'll be there in the Senate to make sure that Donald Trump gets to be his most Donald Trump he gets to govern in the most Donald Trump way possible so you have Trump campaigning promising this sort of remarkable expansion of executive Authority right he wants to uh make the justice department less independent um he wants to use power to go after his law enforcement tormenters um his political opponents um and you have her promising that with her in the Senate she would make sure that all of that was possible um so if she's no longer um she calls herself Donald Trump and heels Jes yeah it's pretty plague it's funny that despite her falty and obsession with him he's apparently still not that into her and I suspect it's because he thinks she's a loser because she lost the last election I wonder if that's true I mean it certainly might be although his fate is sort of tied to hers as relates to right she lost in 2022 right in the governor's race he lost in 2020 they both claim that the election was stolen um but not that he you know he doesn't acknowledge that he lost they're both a little confused she calls herself the lawful Governor still I love that she still call the governor it's so great and like a Starbucks in Sedona she's like current governor of the Aron [Music]