well let's find out what difference all that might make to the race in those crucial swing States John McKenry is Vice President of Northstar opinion research you're very welcome to the program um one senior Republican I watched today Trey gy who is a close Ally to Donald Trump uh said that it was a land of missed opportunities for their candidate last night when you associate his performance with the key issues that voters care about where for you did he fail to hit the mark maybe the most stunning thing last night was that he failed to ever use the phrase Biden Harris Administration and closely tie her to many Americans frustration with how the economy is doing what they're seeing in inflation um and what they're seeing on immigration he talked a lot about immigration but not in a coherent way he never really explained that um President Joe Biden said that she was going to lead the administration's efforts on controlling the border so he referenced a lot of different points but not in a coherent enough way to really land those punches and what about her we talked about the 28% in the times Sienna pole who said they wanted to know more about Cara Harris did she do enough in your mind to introduce herself to those voters last night well she certainly didn't make any real stumbles um she I don't know if it was a fallback point but she threw out that trap for him um questioning the effectiveness of his rallies and he just wasn't the same candidate after that point in the in the debate um so she essentially let him take over let him give all his um talking points and was able to sort of sit back and be calm and you know not make any real fumbles over the course of the evening so I think in that sense she might not have revealed much about herself um but she allayed some concerns that she wasn't able to handle the pressure of a debate certainly from a democratic perspective reading the comments this afternoon it would seem they had a better night than even the most optimistic among them could have hoped but there is a word of warning isn't that that their candidate in 2016 Hillary Clinton probably won all three debates and yet still lost the general election sure um and we'll really see the effect of this debate over the course of the next week we'll you know we won't have particularly good um scientific polling until about a week from now on the effect of the debate but if she doesn't hit 50% or higher nationally that suggests some trouble for her because Democrats typically need to be above that point to win the electoral college and we'll see a state like Pennsylvania where they're basically tied right now do voters believe that she Oppo that she supports fracking now or do they believe um former president Trump that she opposes fracking um when they do some research for themselves they might be disappointed in the answer but that should come out over the course of the next week and those States Pennsylvania Georgia North Carolina Michigan Arizona Wisconsin those are going to be where really where we see the effect of this uh of this debate because everything else is pretty well locked in um she's certainly not going to lose California she had to win California by about 5 million votes she'll win New York she'll win Illinois Donald Trump will win Florida Ohio Texas and it's those uh six or seven swing States including Nevada that will really tell the tale yeah they certainly are the race what about the endorsement from Taylor Swift around 250 million followers on Instagram many of them young women but I can't imagine many of them were unaware of her support for kamla Harris before this endorsement what difference do you think it might make I honestly I don't know that it affects a single vote I I do think that the swifties are by and large going to be Harris voters anyways and it seemed really strangely timed from the perspective of if anything the you know the biggest pop superstar in the world announcing her endorsement on the day where kamla Harris by all accounts won the debate seemed to sort of step on the story um whereas they could have used that later in the week to sort of build a sense of momentum yeah it's interesting the timing we'll maybe put that to our panel a little later just a final thought a second debate um some thought that it might be on NBC 25th of September maybe something on Fox who would benefit more from a second debate do you think well I any opportunity to give KLA Harris a chance to slip up probably benefits Donald Trump um I can't imagine he does an NBC debate he's going to say well they'll be just as biased against me as ABC was um and if nothing else you can tell who won social media by who is complaining about the moderators and when Republicans are complaining about the moderators it's usually not a good night for their candidate um if it's on Fox News if they both agree to that it probably benefits Donald Trump just because it gives him a second shot at it um and it's an opportunity for Comm Harris to uh enter word salad land where maybe people go oh maybe she's not as sharp as I thought she was if I was her I think I'd stay away from the next debate interesting John good to toght to you thank you for coming on