now who a guy that you competed against cuz there's game there's like game record who's someone that you were driving to the stadium like all right we got to get this guy that you had you knew it was going to be a long day yeah it was going to be a tough day it was going to be a day where you had to be in involved with him every day was there is there one guy that sticks out I mean it's Aaron Donald 100% it's Aaron Donald you know what what he was able to do with three technique and the DN position uh his movement and his his kind of his athletic ability like you know he'd be able he'd give you three pass rush moves you'd be like what the what was that like I got a holding call on him once and I was like that's [ __ ] cuz I didn't even touch him like he just spun around and did this crazy [ __ ] but yeah that's that's one of those guys where like you know all pass protection rules are off we're not sliding to backward we're sliding to him wherever he is um he was a game wrecker JJ Watt was like that like you had to have a plan for JJ Watt or else JJ Watt was going to pick on that backside tackle make him look stupid bend the corner and go make plays so you know JJ Watt we always had some you know always some special stuff in there um trying to think who else I mean there's any any guys you get into it with who who I know you you you fought we we know you yeah definitely who who who Who's someone that you knew you were going to probably fight every every time is there so is there cuz I had uh Benny uh I think I had Benny sap or something from from the Dolph who's the safety with you guys in the Dolphins um yeah we had any sap we had sap yeah no who there's another one later uh was it the big buff guy n regardless we were fighting every every time we yeah yeah yeah yeah no there was a there was a bunch of guys man when I was younger uh I used to work out with some guys that played for the Cardinals Antonio Smith and Darnell docket we used to work out together yeah yeah and then we worked out together yeah exactly yeah and when when we started playing uh in the games I mean they hated me the the Cardinals were playing well I was on the Rams and we were [ __ ] and I was like I'm just going to try and [ __ ] these guys up you know not them but everybody that was on that field I was going to take it out on them but yeah it was they had just clinch the uh NFC West were down in Arizona I got my whole family there I'm coming off the field and like we were talking [ __ ] you know you get separated you walk away I just turned around because there was a bunch of them there was like three or four of them coming so I was like all right I'm going over here and Antonio Smith full ninja kicks me like on the back of the legs and I go down on the field and he gets a penalty flag but yeah with Antonio I think he he took my helmet off and swung it at me one time we I was getting getting after him in pass Pro and I had my hand up in his face and you know doing all sorts of crazy stuff he took my helmet off and swung it at me and thank God it was like 2 feet away from my face I was like he miles Garrett yeah he didn't make contact like miles but yeah but we always had good battles they were great players and uh it me and me and docet we'd go back and forth he was a great player and they'd always put him on me like when we played the Pats they'd always put big vents on me yeah that was like my badge like hey I made it like Bill over there thinks that I'm good enough that they're going to put their best defensive lineman on me to take me out of the game and me and big Vince man we used to go at it and uh I love I love big Vince man he's awesome remember he who he on the pick or he he lit someone up when he dropped on one play oh yeah yeah I I saw that on film he dude he's a [ __ ] beast man he was so good I mean he's one of the best nose guards ever in there he really is he's he's definit he should be a Hall of Famer he gets a lot of he didn't get a lot of his numbers won't show that he's a Hall of Famer because he did so like he would take double teams and pressures and yeah like he dictated a lot of offensive line play oh no doubt you had to account for him I mean he was like he was the guy there forever and he the the commotion that he caused in the middle would take some teams out of their game there I forget what year I think it was 200 I think it was 2011 and they were doing a Sports Illustrated piece on them and you guys ran like a double linebacker Blitz and he started off this way and came back this way and this linebacker came down and we hit knee to knee so I went down and I go down I think he gets the sack um we're in Vegas after the season and it's Vince on the cover Sports Illustrated and I'm laying on the ground it looks like he threw me on the ground and is running off the quarterback and I'm like great I'm on cover Sports Illustrated but I'm on the ground flopping around [ __ ] Vince I I would always try and not piss off Vince you know what I mean like me and Vince we had come out together we were the same age he went to Miami they wanted me to play dline in Miami I went to Nebraska I wanted to play offensive line and uh I would never do Vince dirty like I would I was always helping him up hey big but come on like so like we you know we get after we compete but like I always made sure to take care of my guy Vince [ __ ] V man he he he's athletic as hell too he's got some great feet people don't realize he's he's like well he lost a lot of weight now he's looking good thin but he used to be like four feet 5 feet wide but he had ballerina feet yeah quick feet we got to get him on this damn show we do