I think it's rodri or venicius what bailing him you just not no outstanding Talent got an amazing future but didn't have the best Euro for me there's other players that are better than ju Benham his time will come if you're being honest and you're judging it of what they've done I would say rodri will be my pig before phenicia Junior and Gabby it's incredible because this is the first time in 21 years that the Balon door Noms won't feature Messi or Ronaldo it's like a changeing the times but the thing is that's all I've known you what I mean that's all I've known for like the last 20 years is like okay is it Ronaldo or Messi is it Ronaldo or Messi is it Ronaldo or Messi yes in between that I think um mrid won one didn't they um Benzema did Benzema win one yeah he was like two years ago was he but um it's majority majority of the time it's been um Messi Ronaldo and this season I look at rodri I think he's been fantastic winning the Euros as well um caps that off for him we even say caral for um Real Madrid right back won the Champions League you know won the league and won the Euros but do they like to give it to the exciting player venicius Junior who's um an outstanding Talent had a great season I think it's rodri or venicius I think you're right I think it's rodri one thing I don't get is the list of nominees and it's the opportunity popping up at an hour yeah some of the names in there to be fair no more no more Salah I know that's strange a weird one isn't it he had a good good enough season definitely I'm trying to like six Englishmen nominated for the award Harry Kane Jude Bellingham Phil Fen dickan rice buaya Saka Cole Palmer in there uh at this stage already what do you think merits the balandor is it on the international stage because then I don't know because because I think it's both because it has to be how good have you done in in your Club form so for me if you didn't win the Premier League then your name shouldn't have been there to be honest I feel like if you have to win the Premier League with your club and you have to have like you know had an outstanding season for that Premier League team also if you've won a European competition a World Cup or Euros or cup America that will help towards it as well so if you put all them together I'm really looking at um a rodri a Carell that I would give it toing him you just not no he for me in outstanding Talent got an amazing future but didn't have the best Euros for me scored an outstanding goal but I didn't think he was at his best all through the Euros um had a fantastic season at Real Madrid but there's other players that are better than G Bingham his time will come I'm sure of that but not at the moment I really think that if you're being honest and you're judging it of what they've done I would say rodri would be my pig before before venicius Jr what you think about earling hland I mean what does he have to do because hisc but yeah it's Norway aren't great are they that's the problem that he it might affect him for balandor you look at he's going to continue scoring is he breaking record records what he might do though save V save harand 30 go 30 Premier League goals win the Champions League you know say wins the treble again and scores 30 goals then you could say harand could get it but D could it be someone else who's scored 25 goals in the Spanish league but they've went and won a competition with their country does that mean more it's hard to judge it isn't it on what day see um makes it work that's the thing we talked about England playing and the expectations that are on England an English player hasn't finished in the top three of the balandor and Stevie G and Frank Lampard in 2005 surely though England's B bendor nominees are getting closer to that s should be close but he didn't have the great tournament as well that's the problem you know a player this season in the Premier League is that enough to get you in that top five of the balandor his form for man city should do but then you look at like his form in the euro wasn't so what do they look at if they just look at Premier League it' be interesting in them seasons was it Steven Gerard because of his performances for Liverpool or was it both that's the thing about the voting as well journalists get to vote don't they they get an opportunity to vote and then is it the captains of the countries get to V remember cherry on re had an outstanding season I've seen a clip of it and he lost it to maybe nedved I'm sure it was okay who didn't score anywhere near as many goals as um Cherry Onre but Cher onry says listen it's these people that make the votes they might just thought yet we're going to go down that route so for me it would be rodri or venicius Jr I think a lot of people would agree with you on that I you got to put Jud Bellingham in there as well um to be honest you even erling highand in a sense even though he's not done it on with his country I don't know it's tough it's tough because it's like a personal award it's a personal is is it is it like the best player yeah what is it is it what they've achieved as well can I just vain for the women by the way Walsh on the list who drew up this won two backto back champions league with Barcelona absolutely key the excess getting in there replacing the likes of Alexa pz right who's the ball Andor winner two times over K Walsh can't get a nomination she wins the Euros with England kind of unsung hero and then gets to final of the World Cup and wins two Champions League give me a solid this is the problem exactly that Gabby event of the day coming up next we'll focus on Lee carsley and England with his former Birmingham team Kevin Phillips this is talk sport breakfast