people when you claim your you're going to get your mind back black I'm proud I'm proud when you claim your get your mind back I'm proud claim your African PR I'm telling you when you claim your africanness you're going to get your mind back proud claim your African I'm proud I'm telling you when you claim your after this you're going to get your mind back proud claim your African I'm proud I'm telling you become a part of it embrace it become a part of it embrace it become a part of it embrace it become a part of it embrace it when you claim your africanness you're going to get your mind back I'm proud claim your africanness I'm proud I'm telling you when you claim your africanist you're going to get your mind back black I'm proud blame your African black I'm proud I'm telling you peace peace peace peace and power family Dr D back in the box with queen of be dock in the Box uh yeah I gotta start off by saying this I'm a bit tired today and queen has a way of when you go live talking out on the thing like I can't hear it like that's like even if it's low that is just not better than her complaining about not being able to hear it although everybody else is going to hear it I can't hear it like who wants that at the beginning of their intro I can't hear it turn you I like this who did that you when when you go and listen to it again and when you leave out yeah last week you left out saying something this week she coming look I'm not gonna play another live I'm not gonna play any more on or offo queen for now is going to be the person just we're gonna start the show with Queen saying I can't hear it and we're gonna leave the show what did she say last week she said something oh you know what she did last week she was like she said like like when we [Laughter] got when we finished I listened to it a few times I'm like she blew she like she was releasing after that show I was like she was yeah did you did you notice that at the end did you notice huh you you don't go back and look at the shows some of them but not not much because that critiques it's hard to you critique yourself so hard when you keep looking I know but Queen at the beginning we're gonna practice some etiquette yes I have I have to go to class all right family thank you uh family go ahead and share this video uh like this video talk to us today in the chat join us on the platform what's what's what's sister Queen say jump in the chat and don't hold back don't hold back you know make sure you uh follow come for us we need to shade up follow us on blackbox radio uh you can go to YouTube and go to blackbox Radio you can look up in the right hand corner of your screen and you can see how black box is spelled because you know Sister Queen is unique and all that she does even that finger she was just pointing just now I have no idea what that meant you know I think that's what was doing I think that's what KLA was doing day when she was looking at Trump now she went she put she put this she put the arm on him he terrible well I a you know let's take our time let's take our time she said she need me get get get started peace what it is2 what's up bro you know so nonetheless family Queen what's happening speak to the people greetings everyone from the South Carolina Studios I want to say listen I am happy I'm over it's Vergo season did y'all know that Virgos are in season and blackbox radio has a birthday next next week 9919 guys 919 we're five years old so I'm excited about I'm a Virgo also so Vero this is Virgo season for sure I'm excited uh let me tell you something um this week is been kind of hot because we know we had this to debate and so I had to kind of um we got to talk about this to debate so that's what we here tonight to talk about but I still want you guys to to be happy this Virgo season uh you know Virgos are everything we are uh the salt of the earth and so we're in Virgo season right now the salt absolutely the salt of the earth the salt of the earth who you saying that you preserve the Earth of course we we we're preservatives everyone the Virgos but you're also dehydrators huh oh my goodness so no we don't dehydrate but also guys for real I mean leave Virgos alone like share subscribe salt without water boys salt without water is a thing yeah like share subscribe we coming with a lot of energy tonight for real because um this is serious we are in voting season this is the presidential election um we had the two candidates up on uh Wednesday what's today Thursday on Tuesday so um we had super Tuesday then it was 911 and then tonight is 9:12 and we getting ready to blow this thing up so D what did you think about your two candidates trumpy and Mala what did I think I was listening to some people um after the debate you know what I mean and I heard somebody say Trump got molly wed I don't even know what that is but Molly watchs um but um so I looked at quite a few still doing deep bre excelling activities what's going on what's happening over there I mean Blowfish do that to survive in the world you know what I mean no my screen went all white that's why I did that now I'm back yeah I'm back I got a whole white screen scared me I had yeah okay look a little pix as well but um no really but um oh sorry but nonetheless um I looked at the debate and again I always lead this conversation off saying when we considering this conversation I think to even join in on this discussion many times if we I'm coming from a place to say this with the understanding that Trump nor [Music] kamla are liberational or liberatory yeah we going what's that signal we say we're going to do queen we going do that signal out that signal back up Queen back up I'm hearing myself all right so uh so um so Trump I mean when I looked at it and I don't have what they call a horse in this quote unquote fight or what have you if I had to just keep it 100 I would say kamla did give him that work to some degree I mean she was doing all the Antics and everything but she mean think she held her she held it down uh I think Trump but but later on listening to some of Trump's people I feel like it doesn't really matter though why doesn't it matter because they don't care about him lying they already know he's a liar yep they don't care about him being a criminal they already know he's a criminal they already know he's a crimin they don't care about him losing his temper they know and they probably even like I mean I heard a lot of people Roland Martin getting happy because um what's her name what's the white singer oh Swifty Taylor okay yeah Taylor Swift breaking alert Tor Swift has endorsed Kamala or Kamala um so yeah nonetheless I if I had to really look at it on a if if it really mattered type of Chase I would say k uh uh really held it down okay I agree but again like you said I don't think that really matters in a grand scheme of things because we know she's she has she is presidential or she's a great or we know she's a prosecutor so she knows how to speak she knows how to poke the bear you saw she poked the the WBY all night on Tuesday and he reacted um so she we can see she knows what she's doing but they got something in this country called The Electoral College and let's be clear that that wins that is the reason why you win and that's the reason why you go forward and Electoral College you can be very popular and still lose so you guys don't start celebrating yet cu the EC has the final say and it's the most skewed predatory racial system of their systems so example Trump started quoting or citing maybe some conspiracy theories what's that what he started talking about um they eat dogs patient dogs out here yeah I didn't even understand what he was saying in the moment when I was listening to it but after reviewing some people he he was talking about immigrants or something like I don't like I don't even like the word saying immigrant to be honest with you but because it's it's become so derogatory um so now saying that they're eating dogs they're doing this they're doing that and and and he just cites some crazy stuff but KB sitting there calling him out about it like allowing him to do it like like like really like bringing some light to him saying these things like you really think that matters this is the same guy that told you to put bleach in your arm like if the society wasn't already fear mongered most of Trump's followers and even commas to a degree are operating from a place of fear we vote from a place of fear back it on up back it on up back it on up back it on up we operate from a place of fear and hence we have us fighting each other about who we should vote for and we do this every I guess four years what is it four years and go ahead I can't hear you I muted my mic so yeah two years sometimes you know when some people the Mayors are going to come up soon or they're they're legislative Senators so every two years there's some type of ens out here and I think that is by Design yeah and then we get upset and we call people stupid who want to go with with third party candidates I mean to some degree they I get it it's like and sometimes we we like like we try to make people look stupid because they say I'm going to go with a third party candidate I mean like Queen I think you even uh was getting on somebody about a third then I G to win I mean go ahead they're not going to win I mean well the system is not set so you got to understand that this is not a new system I mean when they give other people's a place or space in in the um I would say the chaos it's only to s others but it's only one of the two going to win and they're Chosen and whoever's chosen will win I'm it is what it is keep voting I'm disillusioned though and what I mean by that is I understand again as I've been talking about over the several over the various weeks why people will want a comma to win I understand that too I also understand why people are I literally I even understand why to some degree um although a very perplexing degree why they would want a trump to win on the other hand well I I mean no not even perplexing when it comes to White poor people understand why they want to vote for Trump but a lot of black men a lot of black people like Trump we want to make it a white and a black issue white and poor listen it's white rich like Trump it's white poor is black rich black poor we all like him you said we all like him listen look at look the look at what's going on he has the ability do you do you like them H I like no of course not we all like we all like them you said I when I say colors I said you said you know we always want to you A lot of people out he say white poor people who you know who are not rich Everyone likes Trump just like Everyone likes but when we speak when we speak about social issues we speak about the majority true we're speaking about who is his how do they put that what the word they say I think it's it's not the white poor I think it's the white rich I think it's the white affluent and the white affluent is very Ste so where you where did you get that from I'm not get you said we said think I said I think well again where do you get that from well when I'm saying that is because okay of course the rich the Su the Uber and the super rich love him because of his policies and his tax cuts and then when you look at the wealth distribution of this country it is disputed it is distributed more in the European and majority white so they have a stake in him winning too because of his policies so then again them and then you have uh the racial the he's a bigot so then you have uh a more than a handful of other Europeans because the ones who say I'm not a racist I don't have a racist bone in my body I don't see color all of those folks all of the bigots like him too yeah and then you have white folks who just are only going to deal with white people they've been doing it forever but when other people do it it's a problem and you have them so then we have a lot of white people here and then you have the white poor you and then you have black men who are trumpers huh and women right since you say all and women and women so I think he has he has just like harsh he has a very healthy pallet of Voters he need don't get it twisted because he's an idiot but I assume but I would and I'm no expert but what the what I see what I've seen his base are those middle American type white folk mhm that's where his Ries are and the Uber Rich are not enough they're not there's not enough Uber rich people to help you winning a a campaign exactly but I said Uber rich but also the wealth distribution of more of the wealthy more wealthy people in this country the people who have a little bit of scratch yeah they like trumpy too most people in this country is not wealthy I'm not saying that we said of the whes so so I'm going back to why he needs to deal with the middle Amer American F and why KLA keep saying I was middle class like she keeps talking about her middle class upbringing yeah I think that it resonates in a way because people I think feel that more than they would feel with Trump is like this lady is not coming from no cash you know what's C it doesn't make me feel B she's been around cash for a long time so you know it don't take long to change you when you get money and power but for but for me people I know not necessarily I mean like the middle class what is that thank you I mean what the heck is the middle class I mean most people I know I mean a lot of people I know don't quote unquote fall in that middle class I'm not saying let me put like this in some ways they can but what about the poor people the unfortunately poor are looked over all poor people are poor people just ride some people They Ride some people say middle are many people say the middle are and that's what they're fighting that's that's why they're fighting and that's why they're trying to appease those who are in the middle because the middle often feel like they're looked over highest taxes the less programs to help them the rich get the benefits and the and the and the quote unquote poor get the benefits but again I mean I'm just gonna be honest like I understand why people want kin to win I understand why people want Trump to lose I understand why people want Cornell to win or um Claudia what's her name Del Cruz something like that her neither or Jill Stein none of that or Jill Stein you know her neither I'm gonna say like this like again as I said last week in my in my in my imagination I will i i people would be mad at me but I would I would like to see Corell up in there I think it would be funny and fun and interesting and very Jazzy you know uh I like to see what he would do but I mean I I would like to see him debate with them but I understand that they cannot allow third parties to to gain any traction so they're going to suppress him and all of his all of his buddies the green party the red party the orange party all those little the blossom party all of them none of them are going to get on stage because the system does not cannot control everything without just putting two in front of us and notna put three four five in front of us so my problem with it is I'm not I'm so disillusioned and so apathetic to a point today at least my energy is my energy is you know is not not I'm not feeling either one of them to be honest T and and and and you know when she started speaking about I swear the more I hear her speak about what's going on Israel it disturbs me it's disturbing and I think that's part of what it is I think her response as it relates to Israel and how she formed that in such a double dutched way and just how she I mean when I see the debate I saw a bunch of tap dancing and alluding real issues I didn't see you know and then she speaks about this opportuni what is it opportunity Society economy economy thank you see told you remember what the heck I mean I want to know what an opportunity economy is that's you getting an opportunity to be in the to be in the economy to get some things from the economy to be able to tell me more to grow in the economy o the opportunity is more to sounds to me for growth in the economy she's giving this she's giving that so 50,000 to buy a house 25,000 for this 25,000 for a house and then you have to be4 small business and then what what and what do you have to do to qualify for that you have to be a first-time home buyer for the for the for the 25 and for the small business this have to be you know you have to start a small business so I don't get my 25 nah bro you already did the damn thing no so you know I mean I mean you know I don't get no way there's no way I can finle it you start another business what's this business thing tell me more about that well you know your $50,000 start a business well you know what she what I haven't seen and I haven't looked at her plan so I'm not sure what other requirements to get the money but um it's this is not something that is particularly policy this is her running her mouth I don't believe none of that nobody what about her what about what about her not what about her response to Trump calling I'm I can't lie that I think it was a brilliant response but it's still some I feel some kind of way about it and I it does kind of like it does kind of support some people's feelings like when she doesn't literally just outright say I'm black but I what I don't understand with us is go ahead why is it so important for someone to say they're black that's not real we are so grounded in something someone created that's not real cuz she's running on it she might be running on it these are all liars politicians are liars but that's not but look you said she's a liar you see I do but people who believe in them don't see it they believe that that KLA is going to save the day what day Tuesday Monday which day black people and reparations whatever whatever listen we we have to get real about what's in front of us if no one's going to us what's in front of to to expect this government that continues to oppress you to come along and now repair you and give you cash and and help you and and and and value your life as you see they do value your life daily your children's life daily you expect them now to set aside policy for your community when that it won't it's not happening and if it does happen it's going to be where we're going to SP spend money right back into the capitalistic system so if it is in some way given to us that we're gonna find a way to siphon it out of us so why not give your energy to promoting a third party candidate because they're not going to be president no I mean at some point if if enough of us decide that enough is enough then we'll get closer to that I think that if as a whole as a as as a as the people because we have the power I think if the people say enough and they were and we were had enough strategian we can move some we can move some milins but we're too spoiled we love the cars we love the eateries we love the money we love their jobs we love their benefits we're not leaving the system you cannot be coddled through revolution revolution is sacrifice we're too cuddled we we're you we're Americans baby and we want everything daddy set for for for us daddy likes it and we like it too is that what you want that's not what I want that's what we see I'm talking about what do you want what I would like to see truthfully is that we really galvanized as a community sacrifice some of these things that we like and and hold dear to us everything have to question everything from Christianity to the school system when we question and we actually look at this system and we say enough and we create and and and create another structure but to create that you might can't go to work for a month you might be can't eat at Chipotle you know you you might can't drive your bins you know I'm saying you have to get your keys back you yeah you gonna have to sacrifice if you want change for the Next Generation the slave sacrif had the sacrifice everyone has to make a sacrifice so we're not going to make those type because we're we live in a very technical system we don't live in a very industrial system so if you got you gotta deal with that money that digital money so what are you saying start start something new um I'm saying I'm saying because all I'm not I'm here I'm saying start something new I said you unite within yourself so just give up your creatures for what though for and to be strategic about your moves and then if you're going to deal with this political system you have to cultivate your leaders you cannot they can't go through this whole system and then pop up and be black and Kamala and that's our Obama and that's how because they're black no we have to cultivate them from the beginning they have to have some type of connection to our community huh who want who want to debate from your perspective um who won the debate of course she won listen if you don't if what is so scary to me is that America has it will allow such mediocrity How could a Donald Trump even be there do he's not articulate he's old and old and old really doesn't I don't have a problem with old if it had wisdom he has no wisdom okay um he is he is angry he's disgruntled he has no control of his mind of his he can't control his mouth or his actions and for us to allow that person to be a candidate in this country and and for us to spend 90 minutes to watch his Foolery and his buffoonery tells me the level of intellect in this country and these Europeans they could say whatever but this if this is your candidat this is what you set for for the world to see then we need to look at ourselves because he is a complete if if you didn't see it night he's a complete idiot and for us to be able to him to still be in the running they neck and neck something is wrong with this country it's the truth it is no way that such mediocrity such foolishness that I saw on Tuesday could even have a chance to even be a a teacher n along long a president I just don't even understand how could even be and if that can be something's wrong with us yeah it can be pretty frustrating um because when I see people uh actually articulating their thoughts about this and I understand why we do this there's a lot of people who heavily critiquing Cara in some of our circles then there's people in that's that's heavily get get not critiquing her you know um so it's kind like in our community what you really hear is the fight for or against Cala you don't really hear much about Trump right but it's really like this fight for or against Kamala and that's so true and it's like and understand why but um it's like can we just be real with it though like it's like people overly critique her or they just don't critique her at all like I think that that just goes back to what I'm saying we operate from a place of fear and delusion I mean we're we're diluted like I mean I believe as I said last show that kamla can probably make some things she can make U oppression a little bit more um easy to deal with yeah she make it manable but it's still gonna be oppression guys you know she could she can help you know us feel a little bit more happy with oppression um genocide um all types of sides ex all typ and all types of isms all the isms yeah you know I mean and again that's a piece of me it's like you know maybe she's just doing this to get in the place to be you know and I understand why people would think like that but man oh man kala will double dutch and say one thing one second and never answer why she truly changed her opinion now of course she's trying to get in the white house she's going to know a certain real question and this whole idea about Frack was is it fracking and and and and and all these other things that she just goes back on like she to me if I had to critique her and and it's it all about winning the game the problem is people say well she's gonna have to do this to get in there the problem I have is we say that and when the people get in they still don't do a thing huh so it's like let's talk about it so it's like what politician does what they say when they're running I mean I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say there's not one but I'm I'm specifically when we talking about um these presidential candidates that we we hire we get up well they all going to unite America it never happens on a local yeah that that's a that's a IDE that's an ideal there's no there's no way to unite people and still get in there how about that I agree it's all it's like it has to be you have to be oppositional to get in wow there's there's no yeah that's not a UNIF unifying thing you know you have to be T you have to it's like a whole con a great contention to get elected like the whole thing is around debate I mean I remember the first competition and Chaos that's what America Works in absolutely and I and chaotic that's how we wrote I remember the first debates that I would I was looking at was uh like that I that I can recall probably can recall something earlier but the that stood out to me was the um Bill Clinton era when he was giving people that work he could debate that's for sure you know but um what does that amount to nothing he was trash I mean same same stuff listen we act like we looking at something new this is nothing new and guys the link is in the link is in the chat come in here and uh cuz I don't see we we're not having a lot of comments tonight Brother D I don't know what's going on with our black boxes tonight I think I think the people are apathetic oh is it a game oh it's is this NFL Thursday oh Lord is it a game today I don't know it might be I mean people but that don't got nothing to do with what we doing I mean there's people in here you yeah we got our peoples but I just want these guys to start hitting the chat and listen if you want to come in with us we would love to have you this is a safe space we want to hear your opinion come sit in the box cuz I know nothing I'm just trying to figure it out we're trying to figure it out I mean what we did see was mediocrity what you know what I do want to say when I say uh about mediocrity because we know Trump we've seen a a cad of Medi ochre especially white men I will say that um in power position there is nothing new in America but what I will say is when someone black is present they have to be extra educated they have to be extra articulated they have to be extra ass simulated and so when you when you see a Barack Obama uh he's he's a pedigree he went to all of the king schools he he could speak very well lawyer all the things you you look at sister Kama same thing she went she she she's done with she's done very well tney General States Attorney she's done it all they go through the system and they become I would say more uh institutionalizes White and and so these are the folks who are escalated and we see it right in front of our eyes but then we see their candidates these are mediocre per people but Biden to me is not something to that is something that is better than say a trump then it's better than McConnell these are all mediocre men I look at R Rubio mediocre where are these these very educated very articulated European CA candidates I don't see them but when a black person is running they have to be over articulated and and that's and overeducated and they have to they have to feel comfortable with them and so this is what we're seeing so we see on one side I mean almost idiocy and then we see someone who's very presidential if if she speaks and when she talks to people she she she's very you feel like listen she got it together that's what we're seeing same thing with Obama uh when he was running and he was um debating same thing and so this is no new they they keep running the same cars and we keep buying the we keep going and buy the leases but it's all going to come out to black folks are not going to be liberated from what we see that's what I think so black people you say have to be more articulate of course look at it just just look at what we saw on Tuesday I just want to say that because you kept articulated yes there is a football game brother the KE said there's a football game tonight you be rying up here yeah I had to put my bars in there and I said assimilated and assimilated yes sir we got to put them bars in there so there is a football game tonight but listen we fly it in the game how about that so yeah come in the chat guys come come get in the chat pick up that link and um come see us please um so that's what I see about candidates Queen saying please please don't disapp yeah y'all come see us please yeah so um so when I think everybody scared to sit with you D they think that you gonna come for them you know I was I was talking to my good I talked to my good brother uh earlier and he uh he he had a nerve to say we was talking about why some people stay out of my way and I was and he GNA mention uh so aggression I said aggression what what talking about some of these uh shows I've been on with people yeah you get a little aggressive not on here though it's all for you today today I'm today I'm I'm tired I'm tired so I can see it so okay so my my my thing is are we ever going to be able to to break this thing we're in we have problems I think with the voting even though we're voting we said people die for us to vote but I don't know if they died for the Electoral College I don't know if they died for trumpy and his boys cuz he'll put they put people on the on the court there Jerry Mandarin I don't know if people died for Jerry Mandarin I don't know if people have died for the the amount of um attacks and and that's going on in in this presidential race any race that we're in so when I hear black folks say oh people died for you the V I don't know if they died for this yeah you know I'm sorry go ahead I mean I just struggle when when I'm hearing you say that I struggle with I definitely struggle with people like Roland Martin who I do I mean did you Roland up here I mean it's cool like I think Roland is you know he he had some some years in and he's he knows some things but I I I don't see how a person can have no critique of the candidates that they want to win I I just it like he can make every I mean I know how people can do it but I feel like they're delusional and they're lying I feel like they're not being honest if they're not being honest with themselves they're definitely not if they if if they think they're being honest with us they definitely not being honest with themselves because like are you serious and then I I mean I heard uh Dr Carr and at least he was like he said well you know she said what she had to to say when it came to Israel she did a okay job you know um she did a okay job he said but he said he just called it interesting but but what they're saying about Israel isn't true and and and if you don't understand it's just not true October 7th was a culmination of a lot of Oppression that Israel has done towards the Palestinians how many people have they killed prior to October 7th this this notion that all of a sudden the palestin Palestinians just or Hamas excuse me all of a sudden Hamas just said I'm going to blow up some college students I'm gonna blow up 1,200 people or 2,000 people whoever they killed which was unfortunate don't want anybody to lose their lives is a lie fact is is an oppressor let's be clear that's what's been happening they've been oppressing these people they took these people's land and all that never been a part of this conversation that she has thank you when you stay on somebody's neck do you not expect for them to get up fighting I don't understand and I'm not and I'm not against Israel I'm not against palestin Palestine what I'm saying is when you oppress people there will be a reaction oppression there's a reaction and that was a reaction so what happened before October 7 have anyone looked at Gaza and and how it's controlled by who Israel so when you look at it you know when I hear some people say well this is one settler colonist colonizer protecting another absolutely you know what I mean so it's not the same behaviors we see the same behaviors of the the these American Europeans as these Eastern so Europeans that's in that's in Gaza that's in Israel yeah it's not even American European if if is a part of that or bomb is a part of that the the the aristocracy of America know tell you you said that when they go to school they get more what white well you said European they're European I'm saying white and European different but um white is a is a construct yeah that that means that you are greater you are better you are superior that you are pure you are a pure you are a colonizer you are yes you are privileged you're racist you're all of that and I I I mean when I think about it like for people to be able to get in these spaces you know I we have to really keep it real and I'm sorry for y'all who might be disappointed tonight you know I tried I taught at a white University for two years and I'm like damn you gotta do a lot of work to be around white people I'm G sit back and let you preach you gota do a lot of work to be around white people especially those in these particular positions I think that it was one of the greatest experiences because I got to learn how they operate and how oppressive it is and how and how microaggressions exist and all these type of things but but but why why am I bringing it up here I'm bringing it up here I mean and I've had other experiences with with them uh throughout my life but this one was quite different and I'm saying that you have to deal with a lot you have to do a lot of bending and a lot of contorting and folding twisting and turning and and really not being real to get in certain spaces that's so true and so imagine how contorted KLA is I Amed out that is what I'm saying yeah and I am not sure how one gets to certain spaces and not be touched by that bug I'm not talking about a local level politicians that's not that much I mean I might go and they're contorting too believe that definitely that is some contorting definitely but you have to really if you know you can be more blacker when you're a lower level politician of course the higher you go up the less black you become absolutely and what I mean by a black I mean this is just looked at in the way of saying more liberatory and when I say white I'm saying oppressive and it does have not to do with it doesn't specifically has anything to do with in this particular context the way the people look feeling to man you said a lot um you wanted me to come on to there I told you I'm tired so I'm I guess I'm feeling it too and I'm also thinking about how our people are suffering too when I think when I talk about Israel I'm just thinking about them as another oppressed people but I'm I'm in Baltimore and I can see the oppression here really real exactly you know what I'm saying I I can't you know I can't act like I don't see that and I can't act like like like nobody's even speaking into their plight that's why earlier I said like so who's talking about the poor who's talking about the the oppressed of the oppressed and a lot of the poor that won't even have time because they work so much to vote she want to double down and be the the the the the the the Border Police like she like like I I agree with some of the analysis I heard this wasn't a left and a right the debate this was the right versus the the c a right a right cist versus a far right yeah in she's very C debate was who can be more who can be more far right you know who could who could who can uh uh um uphold the borders better who could who can who we're going to support is I am going to support Israel she literally said I I forgot how she said it but it it did something to me but any candidate I don't care if it's trumpy I don't care if it's a Obama I don't care if it's Larry from Larry from Park Heights I don't care if it's I don't care who it is inat you if you sit in that seat you gonna support Israel let's be clear you know I mean she's only a person but you know what she has to do to be honest and to be fair to some degree I think to all all degrees that's that's you're right but at the same [Music] time you know is that any is is that a way you know as we know like we're speaking to this again let me put this back in context with myself these presidents aren't no no Liberation is coming through them no um but the fact is it's not even about me it's about the people who believe in these folks and and many of us we are deluded and those are who and and we talk about white people voting against their own interest but are we voting for our for our interest you better say it I mean literally like you know our people are struggling I'm talking about our people are really struggling and when I hear people not talk about poor people or and working people get thrown in there every now and again but when I hear middle like to to black people middle class is is it it mean you made it I'm telling you if we can get the middle class we rich yeah you know what I'm saying so it's like so what am what are we talking about we talking about she talking about she's a middle class person and I'm not and I'm not and both her parents are you know they're both professors very educated folk very educated yes you know what I mean very accomplished folks I'm not say you know and those are not a house of the middle class those are usually not houses of the middle class where you have all of this education all this access this ability to you know most people who most impoverished people don't have all of this education that her no they don't they don't so when she tell me middle class I'm like what type of middle class was you mama you know I we did a video on this idea whether she's black right and I want people confused whether or not I believe she's black I think she's black with with the fact that is she quite the same as what people say they not like us they not like us I don't want you to think that I don't see the difference but I don't think I see the difference in an important way the same way that people are articulating it people are articulating in a way that oh because her father's from Jamaica her mother's from India I'm not to me that is not a issue but yeah that doesn't matter the the way that she where she is now and and how she exists in this world I don't quite believe that she you know let me not say that I don't know what this lady I don't know what's going on this lady's mind let me just be what I would say is most black women are not existing In Her Shoes I'm one and it's very clear that I don't have the type of access that kamla has or the I'm not as educated she as neither but what I will say is her the circles that she walk in I'm not walking in so most black women who are who feel so attached to her are not her they're not in her circles um they're not doing the thing she do they you know she's married uh a Jewish guy so I don't expect her go far from Israel that's first she's married to a Jewish man but you do know Jewish people are also some of the greatest people who are in defense of pal Palestinians listen I don't know all that they have a they they can't be in the fence when you're oppressing people well no what I'm saying no what no what I'm saying is there's a distinct difference between what people are calling Zionist and just being Jewish because you have black Jewish people that are totally against that you have quote white Jewish people that are totally against what's going on in Palestine you know and against what their Jewish is not a race it is a religion I was listening to a je Jewish person I think was a remember that Mar Lamont but it becomes anything they wanted to be on any the day that they want to make it so it become it become race it become Heritage it becomes ethnicity it becomes a it becomes it it becomes it becomes all those things depending on how you want to use it and leverage it to be honest with you um these uh terms in general um social social terms are very um fluid and they move around and you know yeah you're right not all Jews I think hate Palestinians I'm not saying that but I'm saying on the core issue of Israel and us being in support of them she's married to a Jewish guy listen but I'm not sure whether or not he is one of those Jewish people who who who support what's going on Israel no I don't I'm not saying that I'm I'm saying that even though Jewish people may not hate Palestine the Jews the Jewish people Israel is oppressing Palestinians they have for years and years and years over you might not like it but you're not doing nothing about it because it's happening so and it has happened so there's there's zionists who believe that that they you know in that right that that their that's their land and they obligated to it all these type of things from my understanding yes but there's people um even in Israel just to kind of Flesh it out a little bit more there are people who are protesting in Israel that are also Jewish people I'm talking about that are against what the what their people are doing yeah the occupation and and and we see that in America it's it's people who don't want to see black children die in the streets but they still go to work and move forward and they're white um oppression goes for it even if you don't like it so you know you can protest but if the people children are dying in enormous numbers you've destroyed people's livelihood you destroyed their their legacy you've taken their homes but you said oh I don't like it let me protest is that enough well I'm not saying that I'm not saying that that's the extent of what they're doing e either you know what I'm saying I'm saying that just like even here you know I do agree with you that especially not here in America um is there enough people have done the thing but we we cannot exclude that there are people that who have been identified as white who literally died for us I mean or die for our people just like this um so so just like there's people all across this um globe that could be identified in white that did also fight on behalf of Liberation now they have been identified as white um and I agree with that but again unfortunately um we've SE these these systems go forward even though folks say uh I don't like them I think they're this I think they're that it's not changing the game well that the system is is is bigger than one person or or or any one group of people it is and the system is self self-correcting um and that's what I think we have in these these debates against who the Democrat or the Republican well it seems to me that you you are you have a problem with the Israel peace because that's what I keep hear you talking about well no I have a problem with oppression oppression I understand that and so both of those candidates that stood in front of us on Tuesday um crazy well I'm not gonna come crazy trumpy and Mara they both gonna support Israel so if that is your problem nobody's voting no no no it's not about it's not just about Israel it's about Africa it's about Baltimore it's about it's about all this stuff that's already going been going on and it's not about them it's about our people believing in them and that that that is heartbreaking now if they if if people thought that and they knew truly the extent and really were voting consciously I don't think people are voting consciously people like a Roland Martin is act and many other of our Democratic pundits are acting like God Jesus Christ has landed and come to save the Earth and for Cala any any Democrat it'll be it be Biden last week um you can't do anything wrong like like like it like I'm not even expecting people to be perfect but at least let's call out everything on both sides you know I mean I can get with you if you say well I think Kamala is the best for the people right now but when you go to the extent that you can't critique one thing she or he or all the Comm before her that right there is problematic with me because obvious you're either paid for you're lying or you're blind or something a mixture of all of those things and some other things you know and then you have our people listening to these people that can't can't have one criticism about this Democratic party we got plenty of criticism about the Republican and I get why people saying you know I look I got plenty of criticism in Republican party and that's to some degree um I I was I've been criticizing the Republican Party more because a lot of the people in our community uh Circles of spars typically focus on Democratic party but I think that we need to focus on both and I'm not going to say again as I said last week they're not the same one is a lot more pleasant to deal with in some ways it's like you get some sugar with your poison and the other one is just you get poison without sugar you know and and and one you might live a little longer you might get a little extra service I'm not going to deny that so I mean so so slaves get to live longer that's more profit for this the enslaver you know some some of the slavery is like it's like saying well slavery in the in in in the islands when people didn't live long versus slavery here when they took care of you to make you live long so they can get more profit so either way is about profit is about exploitation it's about oppression it's about that bottom line it's about the the that the the the it's about capitalism that hasn't changed the one% or whatever they call it right it's Capal movement hasn't changed buddy and when I see still doing it how can in America can a city like Baltimore be we still doing it m we still working um some we've been exploited in certain ways uh they give us benefits they make us feel as if you know we're we're um now we have access we we now can take care of our families which we can't and when and when we do get a little money they have the ability to change to put in inflation they have the ability to to gouge prices so it's still a part of exp it's a lot of exploitations exploitation still going on it's a little this the slavery thing hasn't ended it's just changed to modernize what I would say a Workforce and a Workforce is what slavery was and then we're frustrated we're frustrated with uh a and I'm not saying this guy has a he some stuff at his record cuz he does like any third party can let me just see that we're frustrated with because we believe that they are starting problems we believe that they're getting in the way we so now we start beating up on them and to be honest with you for most of us their politics are probably closer to our own but if we don't believe that they have an opportunity to win then we call them stupid and we call people stupid who vote for them and all of that type of thing but I think we need to stop that I think that at the end of the today we should just like I told you how I can understand somebody will vote for K I can understand how somebody will vote for Cornell West Jill Stein um and what's her name Dela Cruz I think that's her last name um and how somebody would even vote for Trump although that is the most in the most sickening and more most in your face form of racism oppression bigotry and ignorance but you know there's a space in the table for all Minds on oppressed society that gravitate toward him as well so I can understand why we fall for all the different and we have all these different positions I can't beat up on people who want to vote for Cornell although I in my mind I I don't it's no possibility um I I you know even to some degree I'm like I'm to just to be honest you know to me it would be a struggle of deal like like when you look at KLA my greatest critique for KLA is that she flip flop better than she flip flop and she don't even do it good she don't even do it good she just flipflop um Trump he's a he's a clown let me just say that he's a character he's a clown you know um but but du only in America can a trumpy can a Donald Trump even be in a debate to have the amount of money that is being allocated so he could travel the country and do this foolishness he's doing I don't know only in America this minion can do what he's doing I just cannot understand how his mediocrity can be escalated I don't know if it's only in America I think people operate from fear in fear-based societies they choose people they believe is going to protect them people feel like Trump Trump trump said Trump tells people we don't understand that the things that Trump says out of his mouth help people feel safe Trump said I'm going huh I'm saying like what we we think Trump is a gangster like you gotta keep it he's a gangster people think that Trump is a gangster they think that Trump trump said J Moon I'll handle him you know whatever he said look this war people believe it they think he's a Savvy businessman they think that he's corrupt so they think that he's going to be corrupt with the corrupt governments he think people think kamla and is soft and he's painting this picture that she's soft you also gota understand we a very patriarchal society where men believe that women shouldn't even be in positions in the first place include yeah they should shut up yeah you know especially and you know what's crazy sometimes that's a lot of his votes men are sick of women like her and some of these black men yeah some of these black men are coming from a place of Oppression feeling oppressed you know like they don't have no real power over there women keep it keep it a buck they don't have no power that's why they so stressed out because they feel so oppressed now they want to you know they they feel threatened by a quote unquote black woman being in some form of power I'm I don't even care I'm not even talking about KLA I'm talking about the job around the corner I'm talking about the one you belong to I'm talking about all these different places yeah I'm talking about the grocery store I'm talking about social security I'm talking about and but I'm not beating up with my brothers who are afraid like that but I'm just saying that I understanding in oppressive Society you have the oppressed fight no oppressed this is what I shared with my class last year we the oppressed fight the oppressed and I even you know then that also that leads to understanding why we would want KLA to be in the white house for various reasons she looks like us she's also a woman this is a very patriarchal society and so she double if she's a double win for oppressed groups quote unquote if you using the intersectional lens which I have very much um critique for I think that's the strength but you KLA becomes maybe more than uh two two maybe two or three intersections type of wom she's she's biracial quote unquote she's also black she's Indian ethnic quote or by origin she's a woman and and uh she went to a HBCU like like like she she's in she's a AKA all that AK she she so she's all these things you know which I mean I know howood is out school they don't respect howood come on they don't respect they don't respect HBCU we respect HBC to some we respect them of course but no one does and they're Howard is named after white man but you know with that or not look at how much of a win that would be for our morale I don't know I said morale just feeling good I mean I would love to see her in that space But I don't have any any um prerequisits that she's going to do anything for African people for black people but I would love to see her there because I think Trump is idiot if she gets there guess what I'm you know inside of my mind I'm going to be like I hope she comes out become ganger I agree too I disagree with morale I'm with my sister right here um I disagree with morale because ain't nobody feeling good because she's gonna be presentent I would like to see hold on hold on hold on hold now since y'all want tag team and you want to pick up a week post it will definitely boost the people's morale you telling me that when Obama wasn't at White House that black wasn't floating on cly n although he was dropping bombs as much as anybody other president the world they was I was trying to give it to you but you know I'm just saying look look look up the word morel and then then let's have a debate I'm tired but don't come for me tonight Hotel what up Hotel California don't look you coming in the door just to uh juste look I I welcome she do welcome back welcome back welcome back oh Lord you aging yourself saying welcome back harder bro I don't know that was a old TV show years ago I'm thinking about big something about it sound like a song Biggy and was it he might have sampled that I'm not sure but listen link is in the chat guys for you too Miss Hotel California come on in here but um hotel hotel inome I know we want to see you because you're in California we would love to see you but anyway I don't like any of these candidates um I'm not but I would keeping 100 I would love to see kamla um in that space just for she looks like she can she has the ability to do the job what I saw at this debate is trumpy doesn't even have the ability to put a sentence that makes sense together she look like she actually he is so unprepared and so uncontrolled and and so mediocre that it just it's it's almost laughable that people would support such Foolery that's what that's all I have to say because I know what if Obama or kamla had any of his traits was doing was talking about eating imig first of all they would not have made it to where to where they are anyway they have to be super special to even make it but for him to even be there says something about America if you allow something that's so ignorant in that space it's scary super special it's just really it's actually scary to me and and I don't know why no one's saying that like how can this person even be a candidate for anything not even but you know I always disagree with people who say that I mean he Horrible no no what I mean is we always say stuff like why is nobody saying it like like like we're the only people who said that no a lot of people are saying no I'm talking about on the on National media this I've never heard someone say said we should be asham as a nation to have him as a candidate are you telling me you think Rand if you go to Roland Martin sh Roland to me is not National media Roland is Media social media or MSNBC no I don't I have not heard them say that on a nominal basis all the time like why is he even a candidate no I haven't well you all the time is moving to go post but believe no they do not question these systems I don't hear it people they makeing mockery of what Trump has done and said and definitely saying that I'm saying we said never to to some sometimes they said it so to say a person never said anything is the mean that they never say it but people have said it you're not the first person that said it huh I'm not saying I'm the first people I'm I'm not saying I'm the first what I'm saying this is not a nominal conversation that we hear on all the time question a a question that's that's here all the time like we we say all the time why is he even a candidate why does he even have the ability to stand in that building he should not even be there how because the building itself is corrupt why why would that why would why would that be surprising though well most people don't think it's corrupt they think this is a fair system I'm saying to to a person is as conscious as you and I we we know as a you know you know you have you have to almost be corrupt to be there yeah if you made it through and you're not corrupt you did a good job but look look look look what my sister said she said okay Dr D let you come out with 34 felonies and see what jobs you get I agree sis you're not getting a job at McDonald's and he this brother is on stage what does that mean she's saying that 30 foot felony how you gonna get a job and he's get I mean what does that have to do with anything I'm saying though she's saying that no one says he's fit to be president everybody talk about his F even Cala even on that very stage on the main stage say he's UNF to be president she call him a criminal uh Joe Biden called him a criminal to say that no one ever says it they're saying it nobody cares nobody cares that he's a criminal they want a criminal in the damn office I love this is this is what they want we love you me they want they want criminals this is what you have to understand this country is very criminal we finally got it that's what I wanted to see you up now buddy let's go D I'm going back down no stay right there criminal Al are very very shaped by this criminal Society they don't people don't care about people being criminal most of your people you talk to people on an everyday basis and you start thinking people have morals and values and all these type of things and you start talking to them about about a little bit closer you'll start realizing even the people around you do not have the same level of moral what they say f as you do they don't I'm telling you I excuse me I talk to people all the time and they think that something's wrong with me because I said they be like oh you really don't do that oh no I really don't do that no you really don't cheat on your wife oh no I really don't cheat on you really don't smoke oh no I really don't smoke oh you really don't uh uhh uh uh do these things and then they start thinking I'm weird this country most people are faking and when they find someone who's not faking they think you're weird I told you you too clean for me Dr D's clean y'all it's a clean brother right here for sure but he's not weird so listen look what propa said he said 200 Republicans came out and said they are supporting kamla that Alik speaks to their discuss of at Trump as a candidate you see what I hear even the comments still uplift the system like there's a difference between Republican and Democrat I just no no I think what he's saying is no I hear what he's saying they coming on that side because he's so bad I get it well well he's actually also given I believe support to what I'm saying yes he does he Isel is saying you and hotel on this thing that uh Papa you're right propa pardon me you are supporting what he said yes to her Republicans are on her side but I don't know if that's going to help her when it comes to Electoral College that's what we're not talking about that's what got all Hillary all HC that's what cut her up real good she came with her tight suits on stage and she thought because she was popular N it didn't work so popular is not everything when they got these skewed systems they got here yeah so we got to talk about the Electoral College H which ones after they left out of the White House you haven't found about how many PRS they that they've um done while they win that offense say that again say get that question again I'm sorry for being inarticulated because I'm tired however what I'm saying is after one Le after presidents leave the White House and you and we get off our moral highs that I I'm suggesting we have we begin to be able to critique and look back at them how many of those presidents that have gone before us before the president we currently have when we look back at their record has come out of there with out committing war crimes crimes against humanity crimes against people all that type of thing not one they are criminals Obama clid yes all of them all of them if you are the head of this country and you're pushing the buttons you're pushing oppression you're pushing ganger you're pushing bullying you're going to push so all of them are criminals let's be clear this brother Lamont said this country was founded on crime I agree Brother D Hotel said don't don't do it don't try D he playing with you then she said all of them she said all of them yeah and I agree I do agree that everybody's criminals so but we expect for them not to be KLA she's not a [Music] criminal it's a you know it's a I mean I understand why I agree with that proper what's the part he said because I said Hillary she was popular and and she went down Hillary purposely ignored the swing states with large electoral college votes because she thought they were in the bag KLA better be careful and she's black I'm not going to lie Indian when I look at Jama both all all the above you know I I can have this I can have some things I disagree with her about but also still understand some certain things like I and again I can't lie and act like I don't think like well maybe maybe maybe she'll be touched if she in there I'll be honest if she gets in there in my mind I'll be like I think we got a better chance with her than with trumpy we ain't got no chance baby with him I just don't think so well now I I don't like her I don't like him but those two it's got to be her to get what I think we have a better chance to maybe get some concessions get some um concessions for every all people because it's never going to be just for black people so just like a you're able to get a bomac care out of B okay okay you you know what I'm saying you're able to get a a a system that is helping black people but also helping everybody else we have better you know you can get health care so there're going to be things that I think that she would have be more empathetic and she would actually go toward especially women with this with this uh abortion thing I think she's going to turn she would turn that around immediately I think they're going to get worse with this abortion because they look at the demographics and they look at their numbers they got they got to roll with abortion all day long so go ahead you know I don't I think these conversations need to be a little bit more complex for the black it need to be what a little bit more complex for the black community I think sometimes these politics these these positions these political positions are a white leftist position or like I'm sorry white liberal positions let me say it again white liberal positions we Democrats and and then what we do is we kind of jump in on there I think black people is one of uh I heard one of my colleagues say the other day I think we're a little bit more conservative than um white liberals that we in these white liberal um ideas and ideologies that come through these um the Democratic machine um I don't think white people and black people look at this whole abortion thing quite the same um I don't think I don't think we have a real talk about that um my body don't have baby making babies say again yeah I think we're not talking about it in in in such a um because we don't have issues with making children with having children well I also think that we have some Val we have values that don't necessarily always align with the way that some of these positions are that are being promoted from um the uh white liberal position um what if one would say why why is it so white and black because culturally I'm speaking culturally black people are very religious and spiritual and to even to abort a baby is very is is a very I bet you if we had a real conversation our community that that conversation would be a lot more complex than you're hearing the white with white women yeah it would not be yeah I think we not gonna do too much of that yeah have that conversation I no I don't think that we that conversation will more or less we're going to have that baby and then some hasn't but it's some it's some reasons why it didn't have that baby and all that type of things and then we'll have to talk about the trauma that people um have have experienced and all types of things so um I I think the conversation I think you you you're agreeing that it' be a more nuanced conversation if we really had that from from the black yes I think abortion is not as heavy and I and conversation I think we we do participate but I don't think it's a heavy conversation as it is with these Europeans and I think it all stems back to their ability to procreate on a level well I mean the color folk is I'm trying to figure out what what how what are you saying you keep saying it I'm saying that that they do not want their young ladies aborting anything because they have to keep these numbers up and they're not going to be able to genetics are showing and the numbers are showing this you saying this is a they operate from a place of fear you don't when have they not you have to tell me they're not one time they're not if you could tell me when they're not then I would believe you but they always are operating out of fear everything in America operates from Fear well think about it um they're split on this because the Liberals and you have white liberals and you have white um right- Wingers they they they are split um they like it seem like they're dead set on this end or dead set on that end whereas I'm saying between these two white arguments I think black people will have a much more nuanced conversation that we're are not bringing to the public and and that and not just that I think we have more nuanced conversations about a lot of the identity politics in general proper said most black people are l inclined to support abortion unfortunately and and that and that's what and I'm not sure this is I'm not I I kind of agree with that and and this is what I'm saying right and I'm not sure if that where prop is getting that from but this is what I'm speaking to you know I don't have you know what I'm saying on an antidotal level I I know that it'll be more complex and what Propet is saying sounds to be uh there SS to be some relevance to that um I I can't say I I can cite any data at the moment but that's why I'm saying that I definitely know that it' be a more Nuance conversation and we're just acting we're just we we we keep saying what it it it wa for what is it we versus what they keep saying rooll versus weight yeah Ro versus weight yeah and no one's having a deeper conversation about these things but I know inside of in our communities we're not even having the conies but I already know that I our I ideals our values the way we look World rock with abortion we're not rocking with abortion not not just because there's reason you know there's reason got be a reason like uh something chaotic happened or something catastrophic happened or was a abuse something like that but nothing I just don't want to have a baby right now we're not going for that and you might get it because of Oppression and and poverty or you feel like you know it's some other reasons why too like but all of it is is a hard decision even if it's it's still a hard decision even if you were just out having a good night I mean I work with I work with women and they and they and they numb themselves to go they numb their mind to the fact that they have to even though they they're trying to act like it didn't it doesn't really hurt them but it does hurt them it's a very complex conversation not saying I'm not saying that I'm quote unquote anti-abortion I just think that we need to have the real conversation in the black community about all of these things and not just follow these white Li white talk F and what does white have to do with that I think that this is a great example what I'm talking about our argument is a lot more nuanced just like these feminist arguments when I say white feminism or feminism proper their arguments were much very much more different than black feminists yeah well yeah so that so so that's why I'm saying that when we're when we're following in order with with with white liberals many times they're not arguing our arguments and many times so true black Liberals are just repeating white liberal liberals arguments and that is what makes it to these so you saying abortion is more of that they're repeating something is more of white liberal conversation but it's not something because like proper says so some black people will easily vote Republican in favor of abortion bans in spite issues being more revent I agree with him and that's and that's why we have other people vot in Republic that's why I'm saying so there's a mixed up thing going on here and we look at things through a different prism and that's why people are voting both ways and we're calling people stupid but some people we have like we're very Rel we're very spiritual and religious and some and some of these white right wing white right Wingers I'm calling them they also tend to be fundamentalist as pertains to some of these things um but you know I mean yeah so well you know what brother Lamar said abortion wasn't really a black thing until semi recently we used to just act like young mothers didn't have the baby and say that it was Big Mama's baby that that was a thing at one point what what absolutely and that's what I'm saying you know whereas we thought we we thought that white women weren't having babies but nobody asked them how many abortions they had um and um and I'm not and and I want to be very and I'm not judging anybody his abortion because that's a very hard thing to do um I work with plenty of people um as young as children and I've seen the and I'll be honest with you if I have to keep it above I've seen the impact on fathers who who learned that they had a baby possibly on the way and then the woman decided to abort the baby even if they made this decision together how that still impacted them the father as well and I I think that as African black people we make more familial Community decisions and to to to to to you know like for example I'm just saying if I it would hurt me dearly to to a great degree if I if my wife aborted a child if I found out she's pregnant and she aborted a child and came back and told me that that would hurt me that would hurt me seriously so wow I don't I think this is a whole another conversation that we might need to have so when we look at things like this think we have to look at it um a little bit more nuanced a little bit more careful and we have to consider all because it's a very individualistic thing when we just repeat these talking points um and I get it I'm not saying that anybody should be forced to do a thing but I also think that we have to consider all parties involved we have to consider and before we take upon us to do certain acts we have to consider the circumstances and what and what what the outcomes are Poss will possibly be and we have to consider that people will be hurt men and women men need to consider that if you are having sex that you possibly going to impregnate her y'all need to have that discussion before y'all playing around in the first place because talking about people planning and talking before sex oh is that a thing well it has to be it be the outcome of sex is a baby all day an embryo yeah it it's a it's that's the outcome and when you find out that she aborted that child how's that going to impact you well most people going in for pleasure they're not looking at the what is the outcome can be the outcome for them I'm not talking about one night stances I'm talking about people who just having sex but they in a relationship but even one night stances people get Believe It or Not people get hurt by one night stances I've seen I've seen women who are hurt because the man did not show any interest after the one night stance and and and and they decide to have the child or or they didn't have the child and the man still was like why didn't you have the child like although they just had a one night stance now they hurt and I seen so I'm saying we have to be more responsible with what we're doing here um but we need to have these conversations we need to have the conversation that I'm not ready to have a child if this happens that this is the PO this is what's going to happen you know people asking people now uh to take um um if you can ask somebody to go ahead and and and take a HIV test and people are why can't we have this conversation because of you know in the gross schem things you know people HIV is a bloodborne disease so people don't want a disease they take a baby but they take a whole they take abortion but they don't want that disease baby but but that psychological disease can haunt you for the rest of your life you better know it it can traumatize you and I and we're walking around here and there's women walking around here and not really speaking to it women walking around who are who definitely are blocking out their abortions but is walking with them every day they hurt it's not an easy thing to board a child I'm not saying morning after pill I'm talking about some we process yeah uhuh wow that's a whole another conversation when it comes to this uh this election we're in because abortion is a big thing probably in most communities but I think that choice has nothing to do I think you should have the choice um I'm not saying you should have the choice that that if if this is something that you're not prepared for if it's been abused and you got pregnant whatever it is there should be a choice and it should not be something that's outlawed now the problem becomes is that when Trump should have that choice so the problem becomes when Trump says I do think there's a reason to have choice in these particular situations and so so I don't see because I don't think he's saying no choice um well if you outlaw that's no choice no no I don't I don't if if what I could be wrong but I don't think at this point he is saying no choice he's saying uh he he's a full he's full of balone anyway let me just keep let me put that on the table keep it real okay but but what I am saying I don't believe nothing Trump said believe gave it to the states and the states are Wun by legislators that are you know we have red States like a Wisconsin that outlawed everything even IVF um we have you know so the state has has the ability to to out do that do the abortion thing it's not that it's outlawed in the country the state has the ability to to stop it in their state let me let me say I think it should be a federal policy let me say let me say the individual I you know I don't even know if the state needs to get in our business right none of them should be in our business but but what I am I'm saying is if the state isn't in our business we need to have a community in business and that's probably what I'm saying because if I impregnate my wife I got to keep the wi and she decides to go and abort our child just because that is going to hurt me on so many levs you understand m so I don't know what's going on with the state and the state should be you know all that type of thing but I am saying as a community we need to think about everybody in this whole thing my body that that's true well in a functional Community where people live where people are married and people are in relationships and all those other things it it that that is a I think that we have to look at it in a more nuanced way I agree I do I think this conversation is is that you we've taken out of debate is a conversation that we should have about abortion I think abortion is um something that needs to be talked about especially when it applicable to black people in our community um you I don't think that it affects our numbers per se as a demographically but our traumatization it's another piece to the trauma pallet that we're adding and we got to look at that also um I love what Lamont says here I tell my children and young people I Mentor that there's no condom for your heart wow I like to know what he means by that yeah I would like I would like you to expound on that one that that's a serious onear you want to come in on here and talk about that I would love for you to I listen I done put the link in the chat we ain't get no biters tonight it's not fair we're almost out of here we can put the link in there one more time one more time Lamar that was a heavy one you got to explain that to to your to your sister and your brother you know but I think that again I don't I'm not saying that women should be disrespected women anybody should control women's bodies I'm not saying any of that but I'm saying that the way that we are having these conversations um I don't think these always I don't think these are always applicable culturally applicable for black for black Community H you know okay um and I think that some of this stuff is it's it's more of a a repercussion of Oppression versus how do we now recreate Healthy Families communities and individuals that dwell inside of them I don't feel like the arguments in the conversations would be I don't even think abortion would be as much of a topic if we could talk about building Healthy Families communities I didn't think I think because we're in a toxic society that this thing of abortion is such a real thing I think because we're in this capitalistic we in this we're in a place where people dog eat dog world that's why this is even a thing I think in a very funy that it wouldn't be it would not even be a thing you're not a if the society is functional I so agree not even talking about this so that's what I'm saying we're dealing with symptoms and not de dealing with the problem oh so it's a part so what I'm hearing from you you're saying it's a part of our dysfunctionality in our society like other societies are not dealing with abortion other places let's say that and I and I would have to look at the research but I I would almost I would I would say that more functional societies not deal with abortion I would I would wowan out there throw myself out there to say that that that that it is a it is a symptom of just dysfunction that we live under dysfunctional culture chaos the the the racism all of it just think about it who would want to abort a child if they had a good man in a good life in a good life who would want to do that oh why would you want to do that why would you do that that would just be a malicious person and usually functional Society is not a lot of malicious going on it's only because we're in this doggy dog world hamster whe um Rat Race and I I gotta get my degree gotta get my education I'm not having I'm not having another child because I'm poor I can't afford to take care of the one I got I don't want to bring a child into a oppressed Society I don't want my children to feel the trauma that I felt these the reason why people are B children ah so we not talk about that look at you listen we going to have that conversation we got to have that conversation I we got to have that outside of this I love um shout out to Kelly shout out bro I appreciate shout out to you enjoying the show as always you're right it affects men as well and I love when it comes from men and they say that women I've been with and no still live with trauma yes it's traumatizing and I appreciate the process of it is traumatizing I appreciate everybody I appreciate you Queen for um because I mean these are really helping me flesh my thoughts out here honestly is one of those things that I even personally myself just kind of like know that something there but it's interesting that I'm doing on the air in in this way because and and what gave me uh more when I saw when I heard other people when I saw the people in the chat room say yeah it's right you know black people don't typically look at things like that it gave me more inspiration to explore it more in my mind what the problem is you know understand so we get to this point that the society is the self if we were in more healthy Society we wouldn't be talking about this that's what I'm telling you you just nuanced that into something we need to talk about because that is true like you said if you're living well your man is well your wife is well everything is well why are we even talking about abortion you want to bring a child into your your beautiful life a husband and wife I know my wife my wife or even like one night stand really say it again you said your wife would love to have another baby yeah she would you understand um for various reasons she couldn't have another baby but she would love and hold up it's not about my wife what I really was going to say was this I talked to so many women who desire to have they talk about there's this desire in a woman um I've only heard some women you know um I've heard a lot of women through their own trauma I'm talking about women who capable of having children not women who can't have children which in African cultures some African cultures if you don't if you're not able to have a child your sister will have a child for you or something like that you will still be a mother you're GNA have a child yes so so yeah that see again this is a very chaotic society that doesn't think about everybody all members in it that's so true that's so true cuz some women just cannot have and they want one I'm not say not like a thing but you know that's true yeah being transparent I could say that that's true yeah and and I don't think people talk about it enough that when I talk to women they say they have they haven't had a child for a while and they see other children there's a craving that you like damn I want a child you know what I mean and sometimes we don't notice like damn like you thinking like hold up who wants to go through n months of pregnancy again I said it already been through nine months of pregnancy kicks BS and had to push that little sucker out of me and they and they want to and they still want more although they complained about that process to some degree but they feel like is a craving inside of them to to give birth and when you around other children you know it makes you value children makes you want to have a child it makes sense like right now I I literally as a woman I could say that and I want grandchild I never you know I want like right now I I literally you know I do yeah you know so and I and and this is different this is even one step away or maybe is that healthy is that what healthy is though wanting to extend the Family I I think so yeah I think that's what healthy is yeah well at least that's what nature is yeah and health that's true that's what nature is and when when this abortion come into play is such a divisive thing we got to why is it divisive and I love what we're talking about when my sister's well when when let's say family members had miscarriages that hurt me that you know because you going through that whole period of time you didn't named the child rub the belly you did all of that that is very very hurtful very hurtful and um so yeah um I'm just saying like this listen we going to revisit this conversation because it has it has popped up and it's something we have to talk about um we've almost been here two hours this has been um a very riveting conversation talking about the great debate it bought at a whole another conversation that we must have abortion and the implications of and why are people aborting let's talk about that yeah and it's saying like when we look at these policies you know we have to really look at who these policies are developed for how these policies themselves will improve our community versus put a Band-Aid on the problems is already big and I'm suggesting that many of these policies are white liberal policies and people who believe their world are already okay so they their fight looks a little different okay I agree I mean even like LG PG I mean people say that I don't think black people would I think we're very conservative there too I mean it's some conservative with that I listen to my mom and her generation the alphabets I don't want to mess withg I didn't say rewind it back I didn't say rewind it back y'all I love my algae listen I love the alphabets I didn't say no P you're tired I'm not the only one tired LG PBT said lgbp what p stand for Queen um no particular yeah so proper said nope having children is not etched into all of our DNA I don't think it's etching in our DNA I think it's a natural movement of a human of nature uh it doesn't have to be etched but we are here and we can procreate think it's something that naturally in a natural state in a natural Society we look for to continue the society and that's to have children I don't know no having children is not I don't know what that meant by it's not etched I didn't I don't think it's I think that I think the CH I think children I mean I don't know what he need but you know I think what he probably is saying is um some individuals are incapable of having children maybe not person I I believe that personally but eted is a different puted I mean when he says DNA I'm wondering if he said on a genetic level um um and I and I imagine some people are incapable biologically um but then there's maybe he's saying that and I mean that that has that's a fact um that's a fact a lot of times we can't get the Nuance of you guys' comments um but um he said that um JT facts welcome JT I believe most of the abortion fight isn't about abortion it's about power and popul you just got to the to the conversation I said it you're correct I think population I don't know about control but pop population not being able to populate one of the problem but I think what he's saying is also on the other side is doing the opposite I mean doing what I mean doing saying the same thing that you're saying but now controlling right controlling the amount of black people and other ethnic absolutely I agree yes thank you for thank you for clearing that up he's talking about on the other side like controlling people from actually becoming to to act to actually procreate you want to stop some of this procreation that's happening and you know one of the things that we keep hearing is in 2055 or something like that no no 36 what 36 now that the minorities are going to be the dominant group or something like that and it's not gonna change the system yes so system is still gonna be white as if and Jo Johannesburg there was more whites than blacks or something right thank you it was always more more Africans than whites but they still controlled everything so it's about Fair it's about system it's about money and these e you know the use everywhere so laughing out of disgust not really you know sometimes they stand together even if it's four four blacks and one white they coming for you it's not it's not really a like a it's not a real laugh though it's not a real laugh L we almost here two hours it's been hour it's almost two hours we haven't never this is our longest show um the great debate has um brought out other debates between me and and we're going to continue out of this conversation some shows um what I will say huh what you say my analysis of this debate and then D you know you're GNA give your final let me see what proper say some definitely lack the capability but others are simply not Des serious Des desire desires of having children no matter how much time we spend around children still don't have to feel I want one okay so it's more of a personal statement that's fine you can not want them but I think they were naturally made to to continue to have children and thatal yeah and that's and that's uncommon yeah that's not yeah that's uncommon I mean respect thatp yeah that's his personal and that makes sense it definitely makes a lot of sense but I'm going to say for the great debate um if we want to go say who won and who didn't wion KLA won we she she swept him I'm telling she laid it on him I believe that she poked him and she allowed she was able to control everything of that debate my problem is he shouldn't even be there so how about that so Trump is a horrible candidate but I don't think she's a great one either but she's much better than him that's Trum Trump said you know to close this off right Trump said that place that Democratic lad cities I can't remember exactly what he said but he said they're having abortions at nine months like like who does that come on bro like he said that they have the baby and then they decide what they're gonna deal with it after come on like then he said even afterward then he said after they they this guy here the fact you know you know it shows you like you said um something's wrong with us that he could even be on television talking this the illness of our society we're ill if if we can invest in something like that and say it makes sense but you know our minds will Overlook that type of craziness really he's not even mediocre he's simple he is a simple fraction what do you mean zero over zero equals zero you you heard one of his responses though ridiculous you know did you hear his response I I don't know the name of school you know I don't really be into white people stuff like that he's Wharton you know he went to Pennsylvania you know that ivy league joint that that his father paid him to go into yeah that thing you're good how you picked up what I was trying to say you know I'll don't be knowing white people I really don't care I really don't care about white people stuff like that so I'll be knowing like that's the you a pen baby that's the I League business school is it Wharton School of Business so so so she was like so thing he did that was that he was pretty cool on that one she was like so she started Focus she started quoting data from the Wharton Business School and then he he so suddenly said okay I went to work I know Professor there in other words he ain't even directly say that he didn't directly come for for Howard but in a way he came for Howard indirectly took a shot they always gonna take a shot bro and and see they can pay for the pay for all of their schools and going to because you cannot tell me that simple fraction could get in any business school that simple fraction that's what I call him zero over zero equals zero he's a simple fraction that's what he is and was and on top of that if he did get into Warton business school why do you have six six bankrupts seies Mr Mr uh Mr the businessman of the year but bankruptcies I mean in the business world is actually it's not a bad thing but I'm saying the amount that he's had but yeah I mean six six Bank rupies to not pay off lots of money that might be a good strategy might not be a bad strategy but are you how you gonna do that how you gonna do that with a country keep bankrupting it and I mean the country in in essence is bankrupt so I agree I mean that's a good that's a good one D essentially is already there right yeah so all right so let's get your analysis I told you know you heard mine trumpy and and and sister Mala you talking about who won the debate no of the debate the great debate this is you know the reason why we're here tonight um we got off in my in my less real my my my mind that in my mind that's not assessing this thing from a real high from a real detailed level and understanding that NE that neither one of these are going to people going to bring about Liberation any that type of thing getting all that stuff out the way K one um hands down just because she she was very poised yes she she used her women facial gestures at the right times she is what her woman's facial Justice she she was making little facial Justice wom's facial Justice is women women have the ability to verbalize things in nonverbal ways a lot better than men can do sometimes and I'm G look that up go ahead I might be wrong but I I don't you know I'm I'm saying the way that men do things in a way and women do things and she did her she used that really well I would say yeah I think that was a black woman thing that's her black stain them facial expressions baby you could you could add black I I wouldn't disagree yeah I wouldn't honestly that is absolutely her blackest thing them facial expressions and how she reacts to things she does this how she holds her face them black women stuff but that could also be just to be honest with you some people of color that could be a put on no no no people of color from other places do have had that level of sass as well from what other place please huh what other place for 200 um I've seen women from other places PE melanated women have a lot in a lot of similarities as human beings they are similarities across this globe as well as Al un weakness um dancing and rhythm is not only a black thing um SAS is not just a black thing um you know it's just not um I I find I find that even some Asian women and men they they they tend to have some I mean people have similarities all across this glob I'm not going to say we all exactly Alex didn't give it me for 200 I said Alex for 200 and I didn't get my 200 keep going well I'm GNA say Indian women um do have a lot of similarities with to who to some black wom and black men really yeah yeah I mean you you never you never talk to like like if you ever talk to people from it's okay let me give you example if you Asians Indians are Asians it doesn't matter that's just a continent Africans can be Asians too so no not they the afro as adct so what I'm saying is this if you go to like a let's go to an Indian restaurant and you talk to some of the young they like what's up brother but it's or or it's different like they still they can like really connect in a way that sometimes European people struggle okay um but you know I mean if you never experience it you just never I'm not saying never I'm just I don't I'm saying that I don't see what they have any c similarities like that I think that they are not as I don't think they like a white person I think white and and how we react to things is a big difference and I think it might be the culture and all of those things but I think they're also not as to the left as I would say a white person but I don't think they have a lot of similarities to to the African so you saying they have something more closer to to black people than some white folks I said they're not as Extreme as as as white and when it when they can't just really connect I think they connect more than I would say a white person but I'm not saying similar that's what I will say well I mean I guess depends on how you operationalize that but nonetheless um I think that kamla um did a great job at um challenging him I think she did a great job when she what what people are pointing out a lot of times is that they fact check Trump two times and Camala none but the reality is they no one's I'm gonna sound like you right now I haven't heard I'm gonna say this I haven't I have not heard anyone say that Kamala never continued to talk when they asked her to shut up even when they did she said she tried to then she shut up and she t a note took not she was respectable to the rules he was not she took a note and then she came back and when it was time for her to talk utiliz skill now I'm not saying that Trump didn't utilize skill because I think that I think that bullying that bullying part of him is very attractive to people but I think for [Music] most um we would rather see kamla do exactly what she did very firmly very strong the way she went over there and said look I'm walking all up in your place I'm coming I think that's what threw him all from the door when she came up in there and said I'm Comm Harris I think he he couldn't handle that I'm coming all over there in your space I know you're not gonna look at me but you gonna feel me you gonna see me and you and you g touch I know you don't want to touch my hand but if you don't grab it you know it's not going to look good for you there you go do grab it you know it's it's still GNA not look good for you to some degree so she came in there to to to to win she p on him from the door I I I feel like she she wanted de um did it feel good to me that she won the debate yes does that mean much to to to our problems in our society no but anyway um that's how I agree with that I agree with that it felt good but it's not going to do much for us over and our Liberation and our community but it look it looked good I mean I saw some things that she did that uh comes from a black woman I to me you know but we'll see that Mama had some S I believe that I think she did I'm talking about her mother yeah I think her mother did her mother believe me her mother has s they didn't just that didn't just appear out of the mother has something to do with that but her mother is Indian and I guarantee you and you would have saw her mother around some I mean you never seen any of people when they look D like they black like I don't understand like you don't see that yes I'm talk I do see that I work with some then you look at the head you like hold up I work with some very different but but if you become enculturated that might be a little different I see I work I'm saying but Africans act different too than black Americans but they still African I know but what I'm saying is or if you get somebody from East Africa they probably act a little bit more closer to those Indians that you're talking about very close the the Ethiopians that's what I'm saying so the Kenyans on the same side don't uh to somee they do as well I don't know KY got some good kenyons in my head in my life I got something too but they still like a in they still because the Nuance is we are all Nuance you know this thing this thing a set in stone look at those Ethiopians dance they they be rocking with that thing I need you to get yourself together be rocking you know they they be killing it I be loving it you know what I mean you must do you know this person uh woman that's JT fact yeah okay yeah you know she killed him with woman's facial yeah she killed him with the facials she did she gave him a bunch of black woman yeah look she did that you as me look oh so you got mad I said woman and you made the big thing now you saying oh you made a big thing because I didn't put black in front of it at first she was like what did women do how do but then you was like well I okay she was giving them all she was giving black that you know she gave some black and but she also gave some intellect she also gave some preparation she also gave that I have control this Black is Black is all of that she had control of the room bro but listen she gave prosecutor to you she gave some black but she also gave but I am saying black is all that the intellect agree the preparation all of that is black oh love it you know when she oh my God let me think about this point she killed him you hear what I'm saying she killed them when she started talking about that when she dropped the god D on uh the the the the um New York City the brothers who got um falsely accused up there he took the out five man she killed him I'm telling you she killed him the whole debate I ain't gonna lie she killed them like but when she did that one and even how although I don't necessarily agree with the I feel like I don't I feel like I can see why people wanted more like for her to just say I'm black I'm Black and I'm Proud I don't see how that could potentially hurt her but I don't think would hurt her but I don't think it's necessary let me let me finish my thought oh sorry so so so so so so because that one you won't let me finish that one because earlier you jumped in on it so so so so so I can see why people wanted her to say that right and I don't think it would hurt her you know but but at at the end of the day I like how she respond hold on maybe um so the but I liked her response nonetheless because when she was on the interview um like a week or so before she just didn't answer the question at all but her response I can't remember what the response was but she did a really good job in and flipping it back on him and I think that's when she started getting to racism and the central par five and all those different things I I might be conflicting but she did I think she did an excellent job in that case um yeah she did she did a superb job um in and she called and she she let people know when Trump was lying um his stuff was crazy um to me she made him look like a lunatic but nonetheless that's that's W but also when she said that people said that he's a disgrace I think that that was something that he couldn't handle his former the people who were working for him you know so I think he can handle any he cannot handle anybody not giving him AG but he did a good job though to little crazy responses though like you gotta think about other people on the other end like she was like no what she did an excellent job outline at all the people who left him they said they wouldn't support him no more but then he was like they fired nobody they fired nobody I fired them I fired people look oh no you know he crazy the fact is like look at this [ __ ] whole country and they fired no one what he sure said it Country and this is what this is what propa was speaking to right where Papa was saying like um I lost my I was gonna say you know but Papa said something earlier about oh there's there's there's a base there's people that he's speaking to even the black community when he says that look y they a fire a damn person and and look at you black people what do you have I think Trump said that some years ago what do you have to lose yeah he said it dig he said it he said what do we have to lose um listen that I hope that well he said he's not going to debate her again that came out today so um I hope he gives us some more dialogue I hope he sets I hope they get him again Fox News does one I hope he allow them to do one but I doubt it because he he can't handle her he can't push her around she's a little too much and even just a split screen even this a split screen she looks so much better than him Lord how and I'm not saying because she's a black woman he just looks a mess but anyway I'm not I'm hold my opinion no I'm not holding my mind he looks a mess I'm talking about um orange skin he looks so I'm not okay all right well anyway I'm I'm holding my opinion on both the sides of that screen well how they look well I think she's she's a nice looking woman um but TR not that he's ugly or anything he just looks a mess he looks a mess yeah totally a mess so anyway that that's been our take on the great debate it wasn't great for Trump trumpy lost so the versus the biggest vers is 67 million people watch this versus and he lost baby so that's that's how we feel about it um go and cash your vote today family who would you vote for today that's what I would like to know yeah yeah what I would like to know what anybody what would y'all vote and who would you vote for today if you had to vote from that debate I'm still figuring it out not Trump oh wow let me let me tell you who I'm not voting for not Trump that's we we both we're on the same island there nobody I'm not voting for him at all so listen guys vote responsibly you're only seeing people who are trying to be your president everything that they said is not ason Sone take it like water it comes down thrat and then you piss it out okay all right Queen We we've been here too long go ahead close us out strong so listen I really appreciate you guys if we have it's been two hours this has been a long time thanks for rolling with us we we're here every Thursday guys please like share subscribe subscribe to Dr Dr Dennis W A B we appreciate you guys mind back we BL claim your African I'm telling you when you claim your African you're going to get your 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