I find this such an interesting phenomenon because I really feel like on January 6 2021 so many Republicans said that they were done with Trump including Lindsey Graham and it really felt like to I think people in the media that he was he was cooked that was it he had done it what do you think has driven the return of people into a position where they're now saying that they would vote for him I think part of it is that he's a accumulating power again he controls the party the party has been completely remade In His Image right the RNC is run nominally by Laura Trump his daughter-in-law um he is going to be the nominee and you know unless something happens between now and the conventions and that seems unlikely um and it it really doesn't matter I mean and also a certain faction of the right spent basically from January 7th on trying to rewrite history of January 6th um saying that the feds had infiltrated um how it started yeah that was the first Theory started that it was all about the feds it peaceful that it was peaceful people weren't armed um it wasn't that big of a deal um and I think this is just a result of that and I don't know I've talked to people who you know fled from Trump's side and thought that it was over um who still no matter how bad it seemed for him theorized that if it looked like he was going to get the nomination again if it looked like he could win people would probably just come back right and there is and in most people are just making a cynical calculation about power proximity to power but I arguably the theory that you know if if we're not there just imagine the type of extremist who would be there was sort of proven wise on January 6th with Mike pens right yeah and you know all of his Trump's Chiefs of chief of staffs before that and um you know having James mtis in the administration to stop was it the withdrawal of troops from Syria happening on a Tuesday at 4 p.m. yeah you can't prove a negative right so it's a hard to say um you know who knows what would have happened if if the White House had been staffed entirely by like the my pillow guy and Sydney Powell and Rudy Giuliani I don't know do you get the sense that that a second Trump term is going to be truly staffed by like the bannons I mean it was staffed by him the first time right but he felt like he got kind of pushed out pretty quickly he's he looks pretty reasonable compared to some of the people that were there by the end that's true that is true right um I don't know I don't have a real sense but a lot of people are still around you know lot people from the the first season are are you know waiting to could we get Ryan's Prius back in the white house probably I mean probably yeah W this is going to be you're the only one who's like I'm pushing I'm pushing for Ry I really Ry was a great character early chapter great characters Sean Spicer Sean Spicer was yeah thinking about him in the bushes um or there was that great story I think it was a Wall Street Journal story about him like stealing a mini fridge from some like interns in the eeob and like Wheeling it across that the driveway um I think that got a couple people fired or at least one person that I really liked fired that story um but this is what I was going to say about car Lake before it came back to me yeah but I think Trump I think Maggie Haberman was the person who said that you're never more valuable to Trump them when you're walking away from him he does not like people who like him that much I think it's why he he never respected some of the people who were most um obsequious around him um and people who left the White House and came back like like a hopix I think that type of thing instills not I don't know if he respects anybody but like there's a certain um I don't know I I think I've written about like the Groucho Marx law of fraternization as it relates to Donald Trump like he there might be I don't mean to be like Mary Trump psychoanalyzing him but like there I think there's some deeply rooted um maybe self-hatred I don't think he's even consciously aware of it um that makes him resent people who are too nice to him all the time and who like him too much yeah you know [Music]