joining me now as Democratic house Speaker emera Nancy Pelosi she's also the author the re recently released book The Art power my story as America's first woman speaker of the house first of all I I'm just wondering overall what you thought of the debate last night because it does seem from maybe like 10 minutes into it uh vice president Harris certainly found a way to get underneath or under the skin of the of the former president in a way that very few people have in a public debate well let's just talk about her rather than him right now I can come back to his skin later but right now I want to talk about her leadership I was so proud of her she was presidential she showed her new Way Forward new and forward her plan to take us forward command of the issues eloquence in talking about them again strategic in her thinking I thought she was just spectacular but her Excellence did get under his skin and it was so strange because one of the one of the things I was so proud about about uh kamla the vice president last night was that she prioritized in her answers any one of them could be a program discussion but she prioritized the importance of whether it was a woman's right to choose whether it's our national security whether it's issues that relate to our econom and the rest she prioritized and that means there's so much more U to to to come as we go from here so I think I think she did great as to U baiting him and him taking the bait uh you know you know I don't even like to use his name much talk much less talk about him but the fact is I thought he looked foolish last night I thought she looked presidential I thought he looked silly have you I mean watching him on that stage I mean you've obviously you know you know him very well from from interacting with him in a in a professional capacity has he what do you make of where he is at has he is his skill level the same is his I mean is he different than he was as you recall in office in terms of his stamina thinking whatever it may be you know one of those big balloons when you stick a pin in and it swirls around the room until it's comes down to nothing that's what he reminds me of just less and less and less and less like somebody stuck a pin in them and he's just greatly diminished uh the fact that we're talking about kitchen table issues people's personal health or their Financial Health all the things that people care about and what is he talking about and well the things you talked about earlier which I won't waste any I won't spend any more time going into but I do think that people saw a big distinction as to who can be the commanderin-chief who is respected and uh she has served as vice president as a senator before that uh this is a person who is a good person personally I know her as a good person a person of deep Faith who cares about people and her public service is a reflection of that officially I know her as a personal strength she knows the priorities the issues she Comm has a command of them as I mentioned she is strategic in how to get the job done and eloquent in how to convey it and politically she is very astute so when she puts forth the new Way Forward she's taking us from the greatness of Joe Biden and all that we working together accomplished in that term to new heights to new heights in a in in her way so I thought that that was demonstrated very clearly and with over what 67 million people watching it's a good start we say to everyone now our our work continues we must get out the vote well we can talk let me ask you about that I mean as you you WR I mean you know a thing you're two about campaigning your book uh has a just fascinating look at politics in America and your career what needs to happen now in your opinion for the Harris campaign what what because I mean look no matter how well people think she may have done last night you look at the numbers this is still I tell me if you believe it a very very close race particularly in these Battleground States well first let me just say that uh my whole I what I loved about last night she was herself she was herself and being articulate and knowledgeable and prioritizing and the rest she doesn't need any advice from the rest of us on how she should proceed but what we need to do is to make sure she wins so for all of those millions of people who saw her and were excited by the rest we don't that that's okay but we have to we have to put it into action so that means we must I have three Ms mobilized we must own the ground to get out the vote every single vote that is for kamla Harris to come to the polls we have to message in a way that is inspiring you don't run on empty as you mope you need inspiration we want a message that is bold and Progressive but not menacing but is unifying for our country as she said turn the page where we want to unify America mobilization message and of course the money to get the job done and small donors have been just so enthusiastic about our chem but this must continue so I have the three M and I have the three NOS no wasted time no underutilized resource and no regrets the day after the election that we could have walked another Precinct or made more calls or sent more text or postcards and the rest so we're getting down to the basics here but we don't agonize over him we organize about her mobilization message money own the ground because all of it is just a conversation unless you unless you own the ground so people are revved they are they are working and that's what it will take because I believe every race is close now she'll win the popular vote but we have to win in those uh targeted states there are people who watched the debate last night and agonized about a return to to that for the next four years you write in your book the threat to our democracy is real present and Urgent the parable of January 6 reminds us that our precious Democratic institutions are only as strong as the courage and commitment of those entrusted with their care the former president recently posted about jailing election officials he views as cheating couple weeks ago he shared a computer generated image of you and several other Democrats in orange jumpsuits with the caption how to actually fix the system do you I mean do you take these you know threats of political retribution seriously uh yes I do uh his people have already acted upon my family in my own home so yes I take his threats I take his threat seriously let me just say what is so offensive to me is that there's some really good Republicans out there who put up with his saying he never offered any any any National Guard even Mitch McConnell joined us in our bipartisan urgent please please send them please send the National Guard and his uh Secretary of the army Secretary of Defense oh it takes a lot of time and oh and and he never did until finally he did hours later more people injured some people then conse uh subsequent to that dying because he wouldn't send the National Guard so for him to go on TV and lie about I mean he lies all the time that's the only I don't know he knows what the truth is he's so foreign from it in his statements but for him to lie about sending the national gu I sent it they refused it please press please press don't let him get away with that that's so ridiculous and he knows that we do not have control of the security that's H dealt in a different way and the power of the White House now hopefully we could get the District of Columbia made into a state and then the the leader of the District of Columbia can call out the National Guard but until that happens and unless it does we're dependent on the president who has incited the Insurrection and refus to send the National Guard so when he talks about arresting people and ask isn't that offensive to people am I'm missing something here you know what we don't agonize we organize we just have to win we have to win big I don't know if you saw but uh the Administration has called January 6 a a spe a special security event so that means that there will be more security there from the start uh so that we don't have it and of course most important to that is to have hakeim jeffri have the Gabel and be the speaker of the house it would have been a very different outcome if I didn't have the Gabel and the Democrats had the majority in the house Speaker Emer Nancy p i very much appreciate it thank you thank you my pleasure again the book is titled the art of power my story is America's first woman speaker of the house