the the secondary was terrible their tackling was terrible and aside from a drive or two their offense stunk and it looked like the preseason yes and this is where we are people were angry to season ticket holders like I can't believe we got to pay for these tickets for pre-season and they not even football now you're paying for full real season games and getting preseason games preseason football yeah and it's very strange that this is now just become acceptable if you look at Aaron Rogers over the years he loses is the first couple he just does it's now just accepted that ah the first couple weeks you can't even really count it as football cuz it's ah we're still figuring it out which I guess if you're good enough to overcome it fine but when you're not it's not acceptable like the Giants are not good enough to overcome a bad first week