SOME VOTERS MAY STILL BE LOOKING FOR THAT ANSWER. DAVID AVELLA, MARK PENN, MARK, I WILL START WITH YOU ON JUST HOW THIN THE RESPONSE WAS ON EXACTLY WHAT COULD BE DONE ON THE ECONOMY. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? IF YOU CHECKED OUT THE WEBSITE, THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE ANSWER, EITHER. >> WELL LOOK, I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR IF YOU ARE AN ABORTION VOTER, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR. IT'S HARRIS. IF YOU'RE AN IMMIGRATION FIRST VOTER YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR THERE. IT'S TRUMP. IF YOU ARE AN ECONOMY VOTER, THAT'S WHERE THE UNDECIDEDS ARE SITTING WAITING TO SEE WELL, DOES HARRIS HAVE ANY PLAN OR EXPERIENCE WITH THE ECONOMY AND THEY ARE SITTING THERE SAYING I KNOW -- I MAY NOT LIKE TRUMP BUT THE ECONOMY WAS BETTER UNDER HIM. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE SITTING THERE AS AN UNDECIDED VOTER. THAT'S WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY THE DEBATE WAS SO UNSATISFYING BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES OUT OF 90 MINUTES WITH NO REAL SPECIFICS ABOUT THE ECONOMY. WHEN THEY KNOW THAT HARRIS HAS NO DIRECT EXPERIENCE IN THE ECONOMY IN HER ENTIRE LIFE. >> Harris: THE PUBLIC ALSO KNOWS HOW THEY FEEL RIGHT NOW AND SHE AND HER BOSS HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR 3 1/2 YEARS. SO TRUMP ASKED THE RIGHT QUESTION WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO DIFFERENTLY? I'M CURIOUS YES OR NO QUICK. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AN ELECTION WHERE PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERESTED IN OTHER THINGS LIKE ABORTION OUTWEIGHED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE ECONOMY, MARK? >> NO. ABOUT 2/THREE OF THE PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE ECONOMY AND 48% SAY THAT THEIR PERSONAL LIFE IS WORSE. >> Harris: DESPITE INFLATION SHOWING DOWN NEW NUMBERS SHOW HOW PEOPLE SUFFER ON HIGH PRICES ON ESSENTIAL THINGS. FOOD, SHELTER, AND THEN ALONG WITH THAT IF YOU ARE DRIVING TO GET TO ANYWHERE FOR WORK OR WHEREVER YOU ARE GOING YOU NEED AUTO INSURANCE. IF IT'S HOT OR COLD WHERE YOU LIVE YOU WILL NEED ENERGY. ALL ARE UP BY DOUBLE DIGITS SINCE BIDEN TOOK OFFICE. THE BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATION HANDING US THESE THINGS RIGHT BEFORE AN ELECTION. DAVID. >> IN 3 1/2 YEARS, HARRIS, THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO CONVINCE AMERICANS THAT BIDENOMICS IS A GOOD THING. THAT IT WILL ULTIMATELY HELP US MOVE FORWARD. WHAT SHE IS OFFERING AND SHE TALKS ABOUT HER VALUE SET, WHAT SHE IS OFFERING IS MORE OF THE SAME. MORE HIGHER TAXES, MORE REGULATIONS, MORE THINGS THAT MAKE US LESS A FREE MARKET CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY AND NOR REDISTY BUGS OF WEALTH. LET'S PUT IT IN REAL TERMS. I WON'T WIN AS MANY RACES IN MY CAREER AS MARK PENN. THAT SAID, UNDER HER SYSTEM, WE SHOULD GET PAID THE SAME. THERE SHOULD BE FAIRNESS AND IF IT'S NOT -- IF I CAN'T MAKE AS MUCH AS MARK DESPITE THE FACT HE WINS MORE RACES WE SHOULD REDISTRIBUTE WHAT HE MAKES AND GIVE IT TO ME. THAT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US. I COULD BE PERSUADED SHE HAS A GOOD IDEA. FOR MOST AMERICANS THAT WON'T SELL. THEY WANT THEIR HARD-EARNED EFFORTS TO BE REWARDED. THEY DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A PIE THAT HAS TO BE DISTRIBUTED. THEY KNOW THE U.S. ECONOMY CAN GROW. IT HAS OUR ENTIRE HISTORY. NOT ONCE -- NOT ONCE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD HAS THE MARXIST SOCIALIST APPROACH HAS EVER WORKED. >> Harris: MARK, I GUESS YOU GIVE AWAY FREE INCOME ACCORDING TO THAT. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, MARK. THIS IS ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE HOUR. WILL WE SEE ANOTHER DEBATE? THE DAY AFTER THE FIRST ONE, BOTH SIDES WERE SHOWING MAJOR POLITENESS HOURS AFTER THAT HEATED CONTEST. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS SHOOK HANDS AT A 9/11 REMEMBRANCE CEREMONY IN NEW YORK. PRESIDENT BIDEN EVEN WORE A TRUMP HAT. THE WHITE HOUSE CALLED IT A DISPLAY OF UNITY. BOTH SIDES WEIGHED IN ON WHETHER HE -- WHETHER WE WILL SEE ANOTHER HEAD-TO-HEAD. >> DO YOU STILL WANT TO DO ON NBC ON? >> I WOULD DO NBC AND FOX, TOO. I WOULD DO FOX, TOO. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE EVEN WANT TO DO IT. >> I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE FROM BOTH OF THEM ABOUT WHAT WILL YOU DO TO MAKE US SAFER AND STRONGER AT HOME AND ABROAD. I THINK SHE SHOULD ACCEPT AN INVITATION FROM FOX TO COME ON AND DEBATE PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> Harris: WE APPRECIATE THAT AND AGREE. A BIG FOCUS, THE FIRST DEBATE WAS THE FACT CHECKING BOTH LIES AND AFTER THE FACT WE HAD OUR EYE ON. THE MODERATORS PUSHED BACK ON FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP FIVE TIMES AND ON VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS 0 TIMES. WE FACT CHECKED HER BUT THEY DIDN'T. "TIME" MAGAZINE WILL ALSO -- WAS ALSO FIRST TO TAKE BACK A SO-CALLED FACT CHECK OF ITS OWN. THAT MEDIA OUTLET CLAIMED TRUMP'S POINT THAT KAMALA HARRIS SUPPORTED TRANSGENDER -- THE VICE PRESIDENT DID IN FACT CHECK YES IN SUPPORT ON A SURVEY SHE FILLED OUT DURING HER 2019 PRESIDENTIAL RUN. SAYING THAT SHE WOULD DO THAT. NOW REMEMBER THESE ARE PEOPLE DEEMED FOR MANY REASONS, SOME OF THEM DANGEROUS, CAN'T WALK ABOUT THE COUNTRY, YOU ARE HERE ILLEGALLY. SHOULD WE GIVE THEM GENDER SURGERIES? GENDER ELECTTIVE SURGERY ON OUR DIME WAS THE QUESTION. SHE SAID YES. BOTH CANDIDATES ARE BACK ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL IN BATTLEGROUND STATES. KAMALA HARRIS IN NORTH CAROLINA. DONALD TRUMP IN ARIZONA. DAVID. I'LL REVERSE ORDER NOW AND JUST GET ANY KIND OF REACTION TO ANY OF THAT THAT YOU WANT. THERE IS A LOT OF MEAT ON THE BONE THERE. >> WE SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER DEBATE. AS YOU HAVE POINTED OUT ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION, IT WAS AFTER THE 2016 ALL THREE DEBATES QUITE FRANKLY THAT HILLARY CLINTON WAS DEEMED THE WINNER. IT DIDN'T TELL US WHO WOULD WIN THE 2016 ELECTION. HERE IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT PARTICULARLY I WOULD OFFER DONALD TRUMP. BECAUSE EVERY TIME -- EVERY QUESTION HE GETS HE SHOULD GIVE HIS POSITION ON THE ISSUE THAT'S ASKED AND THEN REMIND VOTERS THAT VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS HAS BEEN BY JOE BIDEN'S SIDE EVERY DAY DURING 3 1/2 YEARS AND WHAT SHE IS OFFERING IS WHAT HE HAS OFFERED. IF YOU WANT MORE OF JOE BIDEN'S POLICIES, VOTE HARRIS. >> Harris: SHE HASN'T BEEN DEFENDING THEM AS OF LATE AND DISTANCING HERSELF FROM THEM, KAMALA HARRIS VERSUS JOE BIDEN. THERE IS THAT POINT. YOUR REACTION TO ANY OF THAT, MARK. >> MY REACTION IS I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT ABC DID WHEN THE REPS PUT THEIR FINGER ON THE SCALE, YOU HAVE TO THROW OUT THE SCORE OF THE GAME. WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN THAT DEBATED THEY CHALLENGED HARRIS AND SAID THAT'S NOT RIGHT WHAT YOU SAID THERE ABOUT CHARLOTTESVILLE. WE DON'T KNOW HOW SHE WOULD HAVE REACTED. TRUMP WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO SPEND HIS TIME ON THAT. THEY DID A REAL DISSERVICE TO THE VOTERS OF AMERICA WHEN THEY DID THAT AND PUT IN JEOPARDY THE INSTITUTIONS OF DEBATE. >> Harris: FOR THE CANDIDATE ON YOUR SIDE OF THE POLITICAL AISLE IT MIGHT HAVE HELPED HER. IF YOU WANT TO GET SHARP, YOU HAVE TO RUB UP AGAINST SOMETHING THAT WILL SHARPEN YOU. IT MIGHT HAVE HELPED HER