Florida's Amendment for has sparked a heated debate among conservatives and the amendment would essentially legalize abortion up to the point of birth in Florida CEO of the Babylon B Seth Dylan took a stand against the amendment and donated $100,000 to oppose it and Seth joins us now so let's let's start with that generous donation uh that you made and why why was it so important in this instance to put your money where your mouth was well because the biggest thing that's going to make a difference in whether or not Amendment 4 gets passed is whether people understand what's in it what it actually means what it entails what it says because the way that the amendment is crafted is is is very you know um conniving and and misleading it's it's intentionally written as this very vague thing that sounds like it's just allowing for abortion up to the point of viability which you know a lot of pro- lifers aren't okay with but a lot of people think that that's a reasonable thing and so um it has a lot of support when people read it just as it's ly written but but when you actually look at what this means and what the exceptions are and and the carve out that's actually in it itself because what the amendment says is that you know it will it will create this constitutional right for abortion up to the point of viability however if a health care provider not a physician but if a healthc care provider deems that it's necessary for the health of the woman then it would be allowed in other cases beyond the point of viability but that just raises the question okay well what what constitutes a health issue that's so broad it's so it's it's not defined it's not it's not you know um clearly articulated anywhere um so you can have a healthcare provider which could literally just be a clinic worker at Planned Parenthood say that this would be a mental health problem for this patient if they don't get the abortion so then you have a eight-month-old baby that gets aborted as a result of that and it's it's constitutional under this under this amendment so um that's a problem it it would make it U it would would remove the parental consent and make it just parental notification um so you could have minors who were getting these abortions beyond the point viability so it creates all kinds of problems that are kind of under the surface and and disguised and OBC by the fact that the language is just very intentionally vague so uh my stepping into this and raising some making some noise and uh and donating to some funds that are going to put ads out there is all about education getting people to understand what's in this amendment Seth could you give us give the audience this the story um you know the quick and dirty story of of the history of this and and what's G on with both you know Trump and DeSantis and and where we are now where the momentum is um well with Trump and you know D santis has been fighting this he's been very vocally opposed to Amendment four and he is uh he is making uh making it known that he is definitely a no on four and that you should be a no on four uh and he's putting a lot of um money behind um you know some ads that are going to be coming out that are going to be opposing this um but Trump's position on it was was interesting because he wavered a little bit when he was first asked about it you know he doesn't think that the current six- we ban that's in place in Florida is good he thinks that that's too soon that that there needs to be more time for that decision to be made um and he said that repeatedly he still says that even though he's now come out against amendment four initially he wasn't really answering the question clearly and he got a lot of pressure from pro-life groups and we were making a lot of noise trying to say this is something that is radical and it is not politically damaging to come out in opposition to this in fact it's politically damaging if you don't so we applied a lot of pressure and I think he listened to that and now he's he's changed his position so now both Trump and DeSantis are aligned in being opposed to Amendment 4 so what do you think the broader strategy is now in a post row America well uh it has to be a state level fight that's just where the fight is right now you know it's uh the row being overturned meant that there was no constitutional right to an abortion um and they threw it back down to the States and so now the states have to make these decisions about how they're going to handle this issue um and so there's a lot of legislation in place at the state level that varies and and the pro-life movement is fighting to make sure that the law protects life um so they're trying to pass laws or have already passed laws that are more protective of life in a variety of States but then on the other side you have the pro-abortion um movement and effort that's trying to pass these amendments to the Constitutions at the state level to make it a right at the state level so that's really where the fight is right now is we on a state-by-state basis we have to fight to defend the sanctity of life and make sure that the first the most important and most fundamental right that we have you know there's a lot of rights that we have that are very important to us including the right to free speech free expression um religious liberty but the right to life is the most fundamental of all of them and so you know we really have to fight for this and and make sure that the states are protecting these rights and not giving them up Florida has actually done a great job of protecting life and it would be a real shame to see that go away because of an amendment like this getting past just because people don't understand what's in it well Seth I have to say I mean we are so happy to have you on just because you put your money where your mouth is and your words have a lot of credibility uh you know after writing that check there's a lot of people who talk a good talk and don't do anything about it so much respect to you [Music]