on the uh on the unofficial dep chart yeah rookies are at the back of the line any indication like you said you're going to be playing no none yet we'll have that meeting today and tomorrow you do have S wasn't one of your better practices which I just thought mentally I thought we hit a wall a little bit um we'll see the film uh yeah I mean when you come off the field there's times where you feel like man I thought I thought was just okay you know so we'll be sharper tomorrow go ahead you have wenberg listed alone at first one what Luke wadenberg list that's right he's listen he's listened yeah just talk about his progress and how solid he's smart he's doing a good job on the second level I think he's uh we got good competition there we could have put or I mean look I I look at that and we we get the list together it's due today by what time Patrick 2:00 so we get to we get the the the word there is unofficial and we get it we get it written out but to your point about Luke though he's doing a good job with uh with what we're doing offensively as is Alex so there's real good competition there between those two and uh both of them will play a lot in this preseason you ever send a message to a player with the dep sh no I don't I tried just to I really want to just get I'm not ready for a depth chart but I have to get a depth chart so it's easy to push the underline players to the back of the line line and then uh make sure it's kind of where we sit right now and that's that's really it no it's a good question but I'm not trying to send messages at all so why do you just cuz it's easy and then I don't have to spend 40 minutes with Patrick I can spend five