all right this is a tough one and this is something that we were talking about here Kyle before the show when you got a guy like myON Santos who's taking this fight like I think right before we we started doing this show against Khan offley here and uh offley here is going to be plus a 65 Santa just coming in is minus $1.95 Kyle how do we do this we got these you know young kid 24 record looks grade 14- one but what do we know about him in order to weigh almost two to1 price tag I I I would be disingenuous and I do my best to watch tape on all these guys and figure out what they've done where I I honest to God don't know a damn thing about myON Santos I know he was supposed to debut like last year and then he had Visa issues I found a few things on This Ole kid he's 24 you're really going to bet a 24y old kid making his debut at 2 to1 against another unknown to me I if I said anything other than stay the hell away from this fight I would be completely disingenuous because I have absolutely no idea what's going to happen here I will say looking at the over one and a half minus 230 if you can get a better number just taking this fight To Go the Distance it wouldn't Shock Me Two Guys Good Records making their debut don't know a lot about it wouldn't shock me if they're a little uh tentative at first and this thing sort of gets into that third round area and goes over the two and a half maybe at plus money but other than that just way too unknown I hate to say that because it kind of hurts my ego but I honest to God don't know I don't I couldn't find a lot about these guys so I'm curious to hear what you guys have to say well that that's interesting because I say this all the time right if you don't got we don't find an advantage here on a fight just than pass like Maddie that's a that's a a lesson in discipline right like look I know that you said well last week with DDP you kind of pushed in some chips late and he chased a little bit but you still had an advantage play and it cashed for you right so you you still had to take on it when you've got kind of relative unknowns going in there in the UFC what's your advice to people out there that like man I'm jonesing to get down a bet here yeah I mean I mean if you have to bet on something with unknowns take the plus money or just skip it yeah that's what I would say I mean I was looking at maybe Ole by sub here but then I'm looking at the guys he subbed and it's like yeah he you know a 4 and four guy at hex fight series 24 a uh what a a three and2 or hold on a 4- six guy at hex fight series 18 like these are guys with losing records and random organizations that he's submitting now he did win by round three submission uh against a six and one guy in his most recent fight so I don't know I don't know what to do with this fight either I'd probably just skip it and that's what I did on the show yep that we all skipped it for that very reason again that's kind of the point so even if you're down on a card and like like mdy was last week but man he's like I really it's a strong play for DDP you can still cash it unknown Fighters like this if you don't have an advantage play there pass it there's going to be another fight and that's what we decided to do here with u with off Le against Santos [Music] he [Music] [Music]