um do you have an update on uh deari matthysse and no I think uh the I do uh the images were real positive so I don't think it's anything significant um that's that's good news the timing on those just at this point I have no timing I wouldn't give them to either coach you've talked about how winning is a habit and you've got to build that in the preseason especially with a young group how important is it to kind of have bu look I I said it to him afterwards you know um don't ever get tired of how it feels you know to to win and and granted we're substituting groups and we're needing to get different groups evaluated and yet we still want to win um and I felt the energy I think anybody was on the sidelines uh that part of it encouraging you know I um the guys that aren't in recognize how important it is for the guys that are in and uh that's what you want from your team Sean kind of a more philosophical question when you have veterans that you may be releasing in any given year do you try to get the those guys you know notice sooner so there's a trade or so they can hit the street and maybe have a chance to get on someone's 53 does that fact I don't think today tonight tomorrow morning change the the League's plenty smart enough to um it's never easy this process and uh it is what it is um I've been in it myself a number of times formerly as a player I can remember being real naive up in one team thinking they were going to start me and I went in and I got cut and I couldn't believe it